Database Develop

This phone is not a graphics device, its a business tool.

OK, rather than hijack a thread, this is what I posted last night in the class action thread:
Steve-C said:
What he said...but I am a little under the influence right now. To be honest, my phone works for GPS, works for email, works for web browsing, sync's via activesync, plays movies just fine (no slider issues when adjusting sound), allows me to read ebooks, works with office mobile (though I would like to be able to save Word documents as .DOC files, not .DOCX). Guess I'm with the 99% because I really don't see any issues with the phone that cause me to get on a soapbox. I really don't care if this makes me unpopular, but I'm so sick of people coming on this forum and moaning about video driver issues. Show me one other device that does all the things that a Kaiser can do? iPhone, no GPS and limited open source unless you want to run the risk of bricking the device, Nokia? Please, I had the 9xxx series of communicators for years. I had the choice between the latest comunicator series or the Kaiser, I went with the Kaiser as Symbian sucked. The N95, QWERTY keyboard???
This phone is not designed as a graphics device, its a business tool. If you want DVD quality movies, buy a portable DVD player, graphic intensive games, get a PSP. I have a Nokia 2110 mobile from 10 years ago that can't handle MID files, a Garmin Sat-Nav the size of a house brick and a digital camera that uses 3.5" floppy discs cause memory cards hadn't been invented when it was launched. HTC have packed an MP3 player, sat-nav, laptop computer, digital camera, mobile phone (...the list goes on) inside a device the size of a packet of cigarettes. Personally I think this is amazing, lets give them a bit of credit for doing this!
[/drunk rant off...]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These were the responses:
forcedalias said:
So, are you saying that just because it's business-oriented, its camera should continue to suffer from video driver issues? That it should be slower to process anything with some graphics in it, business-related, entertainment or otherwise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
omikr0n said:
GPS, email, office - fine.
Web browsing - not at all - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y
Syncing - fine, except mine disconnects randomly when connected via bluetooth
Movies - I haven't seen a single movie playing fluently on TyTN II
Is this really acceptable for you? Especially for such expensive device? I paid nearly $1000 for device that my 5 (!) year old iPaq h2210 can easily outperform at ANYTHING?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've never understood the driver issues, as I haven't witnessed them. Looking at the YouTube video posted, that is very worrying, but I would like to know how were such poor results achieved?
This is my Kaiser (running the stock o2 ROM). Firstly it shows a video being played on my laptop, second the same section of the same video on my Kaiser. Then a web page in PIE, followed by a bit of surfing on Opera. From my video, it seems to perform just fine. So am I just really lucky, or am I missing something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrHwG6xpc-E

Nope I get the same results.

Well, i dont have big issues with movies.
However, i notice a lot of "lag" effects sometimes when scrolling. Of course installed the scrolling fix for IE, which makes it far better, but still, there is interface lag.
This lag is easily noticeable when you try to close an app and need to point your stylus like 3 or 4 times on the top right X before anything appears.
Also noticeable when you scroll in the "programs" window , interface lag, the scrolling is bad, really... The icons in the programs windows look like they disappear (this part of the screen becomes totally blank/white) then half-reappear then disappear etc... It is UGLY. When scrolling in program window, what should be SEEN would be real scrolling icons, fluid and all ! It should be nice, fluid, and shouldnt look like the screen refresh is 1 frame / second.
With such a processor and the included ATI thingy i would have thought of a faster interface avoiding such lag tbh.

The Stargate video that you're showing on your tilt in your video, did you conver that first?
If not, I'd like to know the stats on the video. Whats the resolution, file size, etc.
I've copied music videos to my phone and they play like crap. I had to spend $30 on conversion software and wait for the media to be converted down before I was able to watch anything.
Stargate Atlantis episodes that are 350mb take a long time to convert. To me it's a waste of time. I'd rather have a fully functional device with proper video support. Software rendering makes the screen draw slow and makes the device lag.
So, have you copied any video files at all to your phone and had them not play correctly? Or are you saying that every video you've tried has worked fine?
That has NOT been my experience. I have to convert everything to 320x240 at 640 bitrate before my phone will play video smoothly.

There is no need to argue, the phone is capable of doing more, why not just face the fact.. If it can do more, what's the use on arguing "its already good enough??" No its not, the camera is the worse thing ive ever seen.
Dont get me wrong, the phone is great. I love it. The reception is the best ive ever seen.. But we just want them to correct the video driver issue, that is all. Its not harming you... is it? No need to drunk rant ..
Oh and by the way, technology is supposed to improve, the phone is an upgrade. Did it upgrade? No. I see no improvements..
Oh wait!, we got GPS .. I'll give you that.. Even then the GPS takes like 20 minutes to find a satallite. but it is great once its up and running.

I WOULD like to be able to turn on the eye candy and not destroy the usability of my device... even for business purposes

As the video seems to be really low res (QVGA at most) it should work, (we don't know about the bitrate but I'm assuming it's fairly low too).
Most of us who are complaining want a seamless experience. Ie we want to watch the regular videos we want on our computers on our mobile device.
IE scrolling seems nice enough, that seems to differ a bit between ROMs.
I can just share my experience from strart to "finish":
I read up on what device to get. Kaiser was very much hyped at the time. I took the time to read their webpage where they claim that the phone is "more powerful than any other mobile communicator". The same text says that the device is equally good for business and pleasure. It also reccomends using it for gaming:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_tytn_II.htm
"More powerful than any mobile communications device you've seen before"
"perfectly for reading and creating e-mails, using applications, or even just playing games."
"Always ready for business - and pleasure"
I also took the time to check out the MSM7200 processor and what that was all about.
Now my primary focus is business. I wanted Office Mobile and a nice contact manager etc. I have no gripes there.
The problem started showing up when I came to the gaming/pleaasure part.
I tried dragging and dropping some TV shows (700kbps 512x384 res) and the playback is prety lousy.
So I went out and bought CorePlayer for 25 bucks. First result was even worse. So then I figured out that I actually had to turn off the standard Windows Mobile rendering interface called DirectDraw. Seemed strange enough as this is THE standard interface for drawing video on a windows mobile device. With a lot of tweaking I got semi acceptable playback in the end.
A day later I started playing around with the camera. It took me about five seconds to realize that it was utterly flawed. Shutter speed (or rather the processing speed) makes the delay from the point where you click the button to where the picture is taken was so slow that none of my pictures came out right.
It's also exceedingly difficult to use the viewfinder seeing as it runs at less than 5 fps and with extreme blur.
Capturing video was also a downer. Instead of the 30 fps @ VGA resolution that the chipset touts I'm getting 10-15 fps and I might add that to me it looks like it's even less than that. Utterly unwatchable.
So ok, video playback and the camera was pretty awful. But as I said I mainly intended to use this for business so I didn't think much more of it.
So I tried surfing a bit on the web. I run a website and I wanted to check my bak account.
What I noticed was that as soon as I visited a "non-Mobile" website everything slowed down. Scrolling takes forever, and also simply rendering the page takes "too" long.
The mobile pages of my service provider works like a charm, but that's a no brainer seeing as they are meant to work on everything from the cheapest 50 dollar phones and up.
Then came the weekend. I was off to some friends that live out in the country. I had to go there by train.
So "hey, great time to load it up with some games".
Some of the games I've heard of was legend of steel and call of duty 2.
Well call of duty 2 was just as mess, with no open gl support.
legend works pretty well unless you actually try to play the game. As soon as the stylus hits that screen everything start going in slow motion.
I resorted to playing bubble breaker and tetris for the trip.
By this time I was pretty annoyed since my 3 year old Sony Ericsson el cheapo 3G-phone gave me a much better gaming experience than this.
So then I resorted to emulators. I really wanted to try out some nice emulating but again, performance was too low.
I didn't expect the TyTN II to be a Playstation Portable challenger but I didn't expect it to be just a typing machine with a calendar attached to it either.
I found this forum and surely enough I found out about the lack of drivers and everything suddenly made sense.
And the thing that bugs me the most about this is that the drivers are readily available to HTC, they just choose not to provide them to us.
So personally I'm a bit pissed off and I surely won't consider HTC a first hand alternative the next time I go shopping for a new PDA phone.
/Scincerele signed "Business users who expected more"
there you go (actually a true story even though a made it cheesy on purpose. )
oh yeah, PS I'm also pretty irritated by the lag that you get when you put the phone in landscape mode or vice versa. And the slight lag that happens when you start programs (you can actually see how the device renders in approx 10-20 lines at a time) it's not a deal breaker but I certainly expected more, especially since I've used similar phones using both pal, symbian and windows mobile and other OSes (even really cheap ones) that don't exhibit the same symptoms.
Still it's only a minor gripe...

The page you shown doesn't prove anything, it is contains for too less content. Try open forum.xda-developers.com you'll see the huge lag...

undac said:
As the video seems to be really low res (QVGA at most) it should work, (we don't know about the bitrate but I'm assuming it's fairly low too).
Most of us who are complaining want a seamless experience. Ie we want to watch the regular videos we want on our computers on our mobile device.
IE scrolling seems nice enough, that seems to differ a bit between ROMs.
I can just share my experience from strart to "finish":
I read up on what device to get. Kaiser was very much hyped at the time. I took the time to read their webpage where they claim that the phone is "more powerful than any other mobile communicator". The same text says that the device is equally good for business and pleasure. It also reccomends using it for gaming:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_tytn_II.htm
"More powerful than any mobile communications device you've seen before"
"perfectly for reading and creating e-mails, using applications, or even just playing games."
"Always ready for business - and pleasure"
I also took the time to check out the MSM7200 processor and what that was all about.
Now my primary focus is business. I wanted Office Mobile and a nice contact manager etc. I have no gripes there.
The problem started showing up when I came to the gaming/pleaasure part.
I tried dragging and dropping some TV shows (700kbps 512x384 res) and the playback is prety lousy.
So I went out and bought CorePlayer for 25 bucks. First result was even worse. So then I figured out that I actually had to turn off the standard Windows Mobile rendering interface called DirectDraw. Seemed strange enough as this is THE standard interface for drawing video on a windows mobile device. With a lot of tweaking I got semi acceptable playback in the end.
A day later I started playing around with the camera. It took me about five seconds to realize that it was utterly flawed. Shutter speed (or rather the processing speed) makes the delay from the point where you click the button to where the picture is taken was so slow that none of my pictures came out right.
It's also exceedingly difficult to use the viewfinder seeing as it runs at less than 5 fps and with extreme blur.
Capturing video was also a downer. Instead of the 30 fps @ VGA resolution that the chipset touts I'm getting 10-15 fps and I might add that to me it looks like it's even less than that. Utterly unwatchable.
So ok, video playback and the camera was pretty awful. But as I said I mainly intended to use this for business so I didn't think much more of it.
Then came the weekend. I was off to some friends that live out in the country. I had to go there by train.
So "hey, great time to load it up with some games".
Some of the games I've heard of was legend of steel and call of duty 2.
Well call of duty 2 was just as mess, with no open gl support.
legend works pretty well unless you actually try to play the game. As soon as the stylus hits that screen everything start going in slow motion.
I resorted to playing bubble breaker and tetris for the trip.
By this time I was pretty annoyed since my 3 year old Sony Ericsson el cheapo 3G-phone gave me a much better gaming experience than this.
So then I resorted to emulators. I really wanted to try out some nice emulating but again, performance was too low.
I didn't expect the TyTN II to be a Playstation Portable challenger but I didn't expect it to be just a typing machine with a calendar attached to it either.
I found this forum and surely enough I found out about the lack of drivers and everything suddenly made sense.
And the thing that bugs me the most about this is that the drivers are readily available to HTC, they just choose not to provide them to us.
So personally I'm a bit pissed off and I surely won't consider HTC a first hand alternative the next time I go shopping for a new PDA phone.
/Scincerele signed "Business users who expected more"
there you go (actually a true story even though a made it cheesy on purpose. )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What he said!!! This is why I left sprint. I got the Mogul, was advertised GPS when it came out. Well to this date, they are waiting for a "rom update".

woo, we really don't need to go into this because by token of that same logic:
Your computer is a business tool, not an entertainment device.
Your car is a business tool and necessity. You don't need a cd player or radio.
etc. etc.
Now why is this a big issue? Because it was false advertising. Because what we bought wasn't just a big mac and some fries. And because what we bought wasn't worth $15. What we bought was worth more than $500 US. What we bought was a device that could do everything and more. Like a car, you didn't just buy it for business, but for pleasure. And to falsely advertise and prey on the good faith of us consumers isn't just bad. It's criminal.

The point is, even if you consider that the TyTN II a business phone and don't care about it preforming way below it's possibilities, the other HTC devices based on the MSM7200 and MSM7500 chipsets, like the Touch Dual and Touch Cruise, which suffer from the same problems, are certainly meant for 'fun user', not 'business user'. And their PREDECESSORS did all of this fine.
So everything you said is still BS.

The youtube Video demonstrates the Kaiser PIE Scroll bug issue, not the Video driver issue btw. That bug was fixed here. Most cooked ROMs now incorporate the fix.

Yes this will be corrected on the site (the GDI video is way better for demonstration anyway, too bad it's not a comparison).. and the new support reports will be added. But if you ask me this is just a distraction. They know full well what the problem is, this is just to give the illusion they really didn't know, and are trying to figure it out, so they can say it really wasn't their fault. They're just acting out a play.
Really, the responce changing not 24 hours after the sites were launched (and they were informed of this, after all) and only 2 or 3 hours after a fairly large tech site frontpaged it? That is not a coincidence.

I have an ipod touch for entertainment. Kaiser for work/travel. Best of both worlds.

Scott_F said:
I have an ipod touch for entertainment. Kaiser for work/travel. Best of both worlds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are an idiot with way too much money and time to spend on two inferior products.

Scott_F said:
I have an ipod touch for entertainment. Kaiser for work/travel. Best of both worlds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Kaiser which has the power to do both. Too bad it doesn't. By the way, since you seem to be such a huge fan of having multiple devices for doing multiple things, you should probably sell that Kaiser to get a flip phone, buy a PDA, get yourself a dedicated GPS receiver, and a Walkman radio, since having an all-in-one would be far too much integration for you.

Nick Collision said:
You are an idiot with way too much money and time to spend on two inferior products.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome.
I bout my Tilt for 588 USD, totally ignoring my upgrade date, with the hopes that i would no longer need two devices. Until they fix the issue, making the device into what I thought I was buying, I will continue to be pissed about this.

this phone is not a graphics device? have you ever seen the datasheet of the MSM2700? THAT WAS THE REASON FOR I GOT MY KAISER!! (and the keyboard)

Nick Collision said:
You are an idiot with way too much money and time to spend on two inferior products.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just because he has something made by Apple, doesn't mean it's time to talk ****. I personally don't like apple, but they have created some innovative features for the smart phone world.

Nick Collision said:
You are an idiot with way too much money and time to spend on two inferior products.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You dont need to insult people because they have different opinion on something.

Galaxy S7 Edge VR Gear is Terrible, no details no resolution bad bad

Hi,
ordered sgs7edge so i received my VR gear...
I was happy,
but VR Gear is bad...
in 1950 the Quality of picture was same or better... TERRIBLE
Terribile, un watchable.... discovery movie, ha ha ha, it was like bad bad old cinema, it is impossible to read...or see the face...
pictures are so bad, you can't see nature or colors, you see mega pixels and no resolution, NO DETAILS... so if you watch nature, you are not sure what are you watching..you can't see face of narrator, without details.. 240p is better,,
on phone display, pictures are good, but after you put vr on, is bad bad bad...
i think that screen of s7 is not good,,,too much big pixels... 8K or 4K display are better
even menu in VR is difficult to read...
and i was impressed that even Facebook Mark was on presentation...Did he try this '' new technology?''
if this is technology for 2016... please go home...oculus and samsung...
menu of vr gear is un watchable too.... and everything in their shop is for pay...pay for what?
it is o.k. for tree years children,for some stupid game but for me is not good, i want at least 720p quality when i watch something on VR.... but 120p quality is not for 2016
by
kikanx

Yes. It's true. Very disappointed as well.

When watching a 1080p Blu-ray 3D rip it looks amazing. You must be streaming with low bandwidth.

Please learn how to write out a well thought complain instead of the giberish I attempted read.

Seems like someone didn't adjust the VR to fit there sight....

While I don't have the VR yet for S7E, but I used to have S6E, and paired it with 2nd gen Gear VR and i can say it's awesome, even though maybe it's not full 4K or whatever.

I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.

Setting settings settings. look in the settings. lol the resolution is superb if you set it up right
---------- Post added at 02:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------
sonkameja said:
The screen is 1440p
What you smoking bhai?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1440 x 2560

AVriANCE said:
I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
totali agree with you.
i have my friends here and all are disappointing by VR quality .... you can read or see object.. city is but you can't see it good... 240p on tv is better...
this VR Gear must be free of charge....
by
Kikanx

Tried to launch the netflix VR app, maybe I had to high expectations but the resolution was pretty bad.
and YES i adjusted everything the right way.

I'm getting the impression here that the quality of your videos may be hampered by your connection speed. The first 10-15 seconds of the free videos via Vimeo come through looking awful initially, but once the buffer is set and the phone knows what speed it can utilise, the video cracks right into the best quality I've seen.

so my expectations to use this to watch movies on a plane is shot because the quality looks like crap?

yeah it's not that great but what did you guys expect.. you are looking at a phone screen from about 5 cms away - and it's going to be magnified. of course you are going to see pixels and it's not going to be crystal clear and sharp etc.
but the gear vr was never intended to be a awesomely high quality experience.. not for £80 pounds. For that you can pay £600 for the oculus rift or the HTC vive. The gear VR is good for introducing people to VR and just general fun for the sake of fun.

I can attest that the Gear VR does really expose the pixels on your screen. Yes, it's a 2560x1440 screen and the screen itself is possibly the best screen ever put onto a phone, but you can SEE the pixels themselves when wearing the gear VR. The way the lenses magnify it to achieve the FOV, even watching a 4K-made VR porno (yes, a VR porn) you could see pixels noticably. I'd imagine the actual oculus doesnt have this issue as it does not rely on lenses magnifying a screen, but I won't know for sure until I try one. Overall, it takes a while to get used to the pixels but you can get used to it, especially with gaming content which shows it far less than filmed stuff does

actually having compared it with the cardboard, movies actually look better in the cardboard app using the cardboard gear...

It's a $100 headset. If you want true VR...plunk down $500-1000 for a Vive or Oculus Rift. Get over it.

You only need good and quality content.
Download and see any 360º / 180º xxx video from virtualrealporn (use a torrent searcher to get full videos), it's and amazing experience ,you will be change your opinion.

AVriANCE said:
I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
blwc said:
It's a $100 headset. If you want true VR...plunk down $500-1000 for a Vive or Oculus Rift. Get over it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ej, AVriANCE..... thank you for your reply ,
Do you have oculus rift ? Because it have even less resolution 2160 x 1200 so pixels are even bigger...i read reviews...
we need 8K dispay for 720p-1080p resolution in VR.
by
kikanx

tefots said:
You only need good and quality content.
Download and see any 360º / 180º xxx video from virtualrealporn (use a torrent searcher to get full videos), it's and amazing experience ,you will be change your opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for info...
. i will..
by
kikanx

It's stupid to talk about resolution and not see the true beauty of VR.
I was quite amazed on how interesting the VR content can be and how it transposes you into another world.

Worth buying

Hello just wanted to know everyones experience with gear vr is it worth getting i used one and it seemed to blurry etc but in youtube videos its not like that anyway would like to hear from others how they are finding it

I use mine with a Note 5, and it is definitely not blurry. There is a slight "screen door effect" due to seeing all the pixels so close up, but that can fade into the background if you are not fanatical on looking for it. I play games, surf the web, watch video shorts, Netflix and Hulu on mine, and love the device. For $99 it was a great investment, until the Oculus 2 or Vive 2 come out in year or more. Get a bluetooth controller and play Gunjack, if you love to shoot things! I also have watched some of the VR events like the debates, a boxing match, or the Kentucky Derby, and it really makes you feel you are (almost) there.

****ing thrilled with mine, so many excellent freee apps and experiences. IMO gearVR should hold me over for a few years until VR market is more mature, then I'll upgrade to something better. VERY HAPPY AND AMAZED @ GEARVR!!!!
Sent from my SM-G935T using XDA-Developers mobile app

I got mine about a month ago and love it. It was mainly for watching 3D films at work, or Netflix. But I am now getting games and apps and haven't regretted any of it. End Space it awesome, and the kids are hooked on minecraft vr. Yes the pixels are noticeable if you actually look for them, but to be honest you only notice them while you wait for loading then forget about them when you get going.
I do recommend getting Milk VR app too, this plays your VR videos. Just use something like hola of you are outside US to get it.

kdogguk said:
I got mine about a month ago and love it. It was mainly for watching 3D films at work, or Netflix. But I am now getting games and apps and haven't regretted any of it. End Space it awesome, and the kids are hooked on minecraft vr. Yes the pixels are noticeable if you actually look for them, but to be honest you only notice them while you wait for loading then forget about them when you get going.
I do recommend getting Milk VR app too, this plays your VR videos. Just use something like hola of you are outside US to get it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cant seem to find milk vr am from uk

huzi7868 said:
cant seem to find milk vr am from uk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you get hola free from the play store and use that to open oculus store from US you will find Milk VR.

Top Gear VR apps

thought it would be nice if everyone that has a gear vr could list the apps they have on their Gear VR or mostly use heres mine
1. Verse
2. samsung browser
3. Vtime
4. Smash hit vr
5. Temple run

Sorry to see so little traffic on this site, and no replies back to your OP. Last time I read it I was on my phone, but now on Macbook. The Browser is a given, as it is very well done, but needs some more settings to delete histories and for privacy. The other ones I have liked a lot since getting this last November are:
1. Herobound. All three of the games are very good, and the multiplayer is fun once you have mastered the moves in the demo and the Spirit Champion.
2. Netflix and Hulu. Close enough to the same thing. I pay for both services, so it is fun to watch on the giant screens.
3. Adventure Time game. Short but very fun to play and the 3D parts are cute and give you that immersive feel more.
4. Oculus Video.. Some great shorts, and lots of other free things to see, presented in a very beautiful opening theater scene in 360. Renting movies also a good feature, but we tend to buy what we want to see, unless we don't expect it to be worth seeing again, i.e. Krampus : )
5. Gunjack. I finished the game finally and got 3 stars on all levels, but it was Hard. I used to love Galaga, so this was a no brainer, as it is basically that in VR 3D. This one took a while, and was definitely worth the price and more.
Thanks.
Mark

Thanks for sharing

Milk VR, End Space and Minecraft VR are my top picks. Well minecraft is more for the kids, they love actually being in the world. Milk VR has loads to watch for free and plays all my videos 3d, 360 or normal

I don't have GearVR, but I find NOMone VR Browser to be very useful for cardboard. Based on the user feedback, it should be usable on GearVR, but you can't use the controller though. You can use any earphones with a button to overcome this issue.

Gear VR Games

Hello all,
Was wondering what games that you have played that are a must have.
Thanks

Surprised there aren't responses yet. I find Bandit Six to be very addicting. It's a simple game, but really fun. I just started playing Dragon Front, which is cool game. The graphics are a touch blurry, but I like the gameplay and quality. Then there's always Minecraft, which is so well done it is worth buying a game controller for.

Dead Drop
Affected Manor
Dead and Buried
Face your Fears (fear of clowns? This one is great, Please record video and youtube it)
My kids get a kick out of Jurassic World Apatosaurus

A game I got a lot of people hooked on is Zed Shot If you like zombie shooting games, this is my favorite. :good::highfive:

pbaird said:
Surprised there aren't responses yet. I find Bandit Six to be very addicting. It's a simple game, but really fun.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was at a very high level on Bandit 6 with almost all of the upgrades on my S7 Edge. I assumed the games were backed up on Oculus. It stinks that all that work is lost and I have to start from the beginning. But it is a fun game. [emoji4]
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

I don't have a gear VR, but I do have the Daydream. Do they both have the same game selection? I do LOVE that the S8 and S8+ support Day Dream out of the box! I love this puzzle game called Claro. Here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.superbright.claro&hl=en

Claro was one of the free games I received with the S8, pre-order, free Galaxy VR promotion. I played it once. It looks nice but not my style of game.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app