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Thinking of getting one, but unsure which version is being listed here

I'm looking for a version that supports North American bands and from what I understand, the 12gb/512gb one should be the only one that does.
But I also stumbled upon this listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000182288484.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.24fcc18esuf2nD
Which supposedly is 8gb/128gb with North American bands. From what I understand this version shouldn't exist? It also mentions both 2x2 MIMO and 4x4 MIMO so I have no idea which it actually has.
In the description it says: "Tips: CN version, Officail Global Firmare,Mulit Language , Support Google Play and OTA upgrade"
Are they trying to say that it's the Tencent version but with global ROM? I thought OTA upgrades currently don't work on the global ROM?
They also write: " About package and firmware: we'll open the original box to check the phone and install Multi language ROM and Google paly store. Official ROM will be prefered. if custom translation may doesn't cover all the Menus. Not support OTA Update. we may update the ROM. So the OS version may different as the sreenshots."
But I think they have this as a disclaimer on all their phone product pages, whether it applies or not.
I'm trying to determine whether the listing is legit or not and whether to place an order. Did they make a mistake/ are they lying about the bands? Or is there an actual version like this/ did they manage to do something to the Tencent version? In terms of reputation, there's nothing particularly suspicious about the seller so I wouldn't imagine they would outright lie, but it's also a pretty big mistake to make, especially since they highlight the key specs (and bands) in red.
I'm leaning towards the "don't trust" side, with this one, but what do you think?

IMO, you would be better off waiting a few more days till the global version is released. That's a China version with global software, which has been nothing but trouble for most of the people i have heard about that converted.

They already told you.
This is china tencent edition. The phone is not is not brand new, we will open the box, we will turn on you phone, we will root it and unlock the bootloader, in order to replace CN ROM with WW ROM.
So, it will be 2x2, it will lack most bands, it will lack the cover and the cooling accessory included in Ww edition, which will be launched on 30th of September.
Of course, no warranty at all from ASUS and you may have trouble with NFC payments and banking apps. Some other apps may recognise your modified rom, too.
If you are ready, acknowledging all this, you can buy it asap.

ROG 2 ZS660KL-I001DE support for B20 LTE

When I looking for Asus ROG 2 Phone in EU (with 128GB) I only find the ZS660KL-​1A050EU. This version of the ROG 2 don't support FDD-LTE B20 aka 800MHz which means it is useless and you need to go for the 512GB version.
Now they sell in Germany a new 128GB version I001DE. I can not find any information about this version but it looks like this version support 800MHz LTE.
If someone got this version, can u confirm this?

Linuxkek said:
When I looking for Asus ROG 2 Phone in EU (with 128GB) I only find the ZS660KL-​1A050EU. This version of the ROG 2 don't support FDD-LTE B20 aka 800MHz which means it is useless and you need to go for the 512GB version.
Now they sell in Germany a new 128GB version I001DE. I can not find any information about this version but it looks like this version support 800MHz LTE.
If someone got this version, can u confirm this?
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As far as I'm aware, none of the 128 versions have b20

asus i001de 128GB 8 ram
I think I might get one ....... soon I'll be back.....
..............4hrs later.............. it's model and specs are by its official name which is known as ROG PHONE 2 STRIX EDITION that is what you should look for it is the 3rd eedition which is the cheapest yet as performing as the other 2 edition.

Anywhere to buy yet?

Is there anywhere to buy the phone yet? With shipping to the UK?

Hi,
Yes, I have seen EU Variants, CN Variants and Global Variants on several stores online.
The EU Variants are:
ZS661KS-1A002EU / Snapdragon 865 / 8GB/256GB
ZS661KS-6A020EU / Snapdragon 865+ / 12GB/512GB
ZS661KS-6A021EU / Snapdragon 865+ / 16GB/512GB
Just google the desire variant and you will find several stores that are accepting preorders
As for the CN Variants, the official ASUS Store are selling them with the Global ROM here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001260528182.html
And the Global Variants, the official ASUS Store are selling them here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001274717450.html
Here are the release dates according to the ASUS Aliexpress store:
Snapdragon 865 8RAM256ROM will in stock around 10th August
Snapdragon 865 plus 12RAM512ROM will in stock around 5th September
Snapdragon 865 plus 16RAM512ROM will in stock around 5th September
Hope this was helpful!

That’s great thanks. Shame it’s such a long wait haha
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jtalamas said:
Hi,
Yes, I have seen EU Variants, CN Variants and Global Variants on several stores online.
The EU Variants are:
ZS661KS-1A002EU / Snapdragon 865 / 8GB/256GB
ZS661KS-6A020EU / Snapdragon 865+ / 12GB/512GB
ZS661KS-6A021EU / Snapdragon 865+ / 16GB/512GB
Just google the desire variant and you will find several stores that are accepting preorders
As for the CN Variants, the official ASUS Store are selling them with the Global ROM here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001260528182.html
And the Global Variants, the official ASUS Store are selling them here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001274717450.html
Here are the release dates according to the ASUS Aliexpress store:
Snapdragon 865 8RAM256ROM will in stock around 10th August
Snapdragon 865 plus 12RAM512ROM will in stock around 5th September
Snapdragon 865 plus 16RAM512ROM will in stock around 5th September
Hope this was helpful!
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What is your experience with Aliexpress? Is it a trust worthy place to buy phones for shipment to USA?

Causical said:
What is your experience with Aliexpress? Is it a trust worthy place to buy phones for shipment to USA?
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Being a frequent buyer from Aliexpress, I can tell you it is indeed trustworthy, the only downside is the shipping delivery time, that can take at least one month to deliver you product.
If for some reason your product isn't delivered or you want to return it, you can do it without a hassle.

Global version on Gearbest available for these prices:
12+128 SD 865 - 688€
12+128 SD 865+ - 740€
12+256 SD 865+ - 774€
Contact me via DM for links, admin does not like posting it here

pietroSV said:
Global version on Gearbest available for these prices:
12+128 SD 865 - 688€
12+128 SD 865+ - 740€
12+256 SD 865+ - 774€
Contact me via DM for links, admin does not like posting it here
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i check gearbest but they only sale e Global Room but GAME TENCENT mobile. not REPUBLIC OF GAMER is the global one.

ryu091 said:
i check gearbest but they only sale e Global Room but GAME TENCENT mobile. not REPUBLIC OF GAMER is the global one.
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That's is correct, is the "International Version" which means is the CN Variant with Global ROM.

Global won't be out until September.

ryu091 said:
i check gearbest but they only sale e Global Room but GAME TENCENT mobile. not REPUBLIC OF GAMER is the global one.
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This year's GAME TENCENT chinese model rog phone 3 has global rom and not chinese and also support google store and ota upgrades the only downside is that has less memory models and some 4g bands missing for some countries.
I think this year's GAME TENCENT rog phone 3 might be a far better value for money than the last year's chinese model.

kost9992002 said:
This year's GAME TENCENT chinese model rog phone 3 has global rom and not chinese and also support google store and ota upgrades the only downside is that has less memory models and some 4g bands missing for some countries.
I think this year's GAME TENCENT rog phone 3 might be a far better value for money than the last year's chinese model.
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Yes i know CN Variant with Global rom i am a ROG Phone 1 International user since 2018, so for me its best to upgrade to the International Variant with "Republic of Gamers" at the back.

kost9992002 said:
This year's GAME TENCENT chinese model rog phone 3 has global rom and not chinese and also support google store and ota upgrades the only downside is that has less memory models and some 4g bands missing for some countries.
I think this year's GAME TENCENT rog phone 3 might be a far better value for money than the last year's chinese model.
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How do you know they will get OTA? other than what is been claimed in ad poster?
Anyone own one and got OTA?

I've ordered mine from an Irish store called DID electrical. did.ie They ship to Ireland only for €5, so a parcel motel service might be needed.
They have two versions listed on the site:
ZS661KS-6A022 (Rog edition 12GB, 512GB, SD865+)
ZS661KS-1A010 (Strix Edition 8GB, 256GB SD865)
I've ordered the ZS661KS-6A022 and after ordering I got an update to say there would be a 10 day wait before its in store ready to ship. I ordered on the 27th of July, so will update if it takes longer or any change in this. The codes they have listed seem to be unique in that I cant find them mentioned online anywhere, but I think that might be a type o. They are a reputable store with a number of bricks and mortar stores in Ireland, so will see if its just a type o. I was in my local store today looking at new fridges and there was noting for the ROG Phone 3 in there, so I am guessing its an online order only.

I’ve noticed EBay have a lot of Chinese sellers now, just haven’t ordered yet.
There is also a none 865 plus version going around
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aliexpress and alibaba.go for the verified sellers.

Just to update on the above, DID got back to me to say there is a delay due to covid-19 and they wont have it in till the first week in September. I am guessing these are the global model and are infact just not available till the 5th of September.

If I want to use this phone in the US on T-Mobile should I wait for the US release? Anyone know when that is?

rogeriskira said:
If I want to use this phone in the US on T-Mobile should I wait for the US release? Anyone know when that is?
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Yes, it has band 66 and 71. Mid to late September.

sutty_monster said:
Just to update on the above, DID got back to me to say there is a delay due to covid-19 and they wont have it in till the first week in September. I am guessing these are the global model and are infact just not available till the 5th of September.
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Got my phone today on the 5th and it was the WW version... funny that. Sadly, after setting it up and playing a few games, I noticed that it was not the correct version of the phone that I had ordered. It was the 8GB/256GB version of the phone not the 12GB/512GB that I had ordered. So they have to talk to a manager tomorrow and I should be getting a replacement. That said how long will I have to wait for that. So back to using my ROG Phone for the time being.
If anyone ordered from DID in Ireland, check your specs. You might have gotten mine if you ordered the lower spec

rogeriskira said:
If I want to use this phone in the US on T-Mobile should I wait for the US release? Anyone know when that is?
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Got a 12gb 512 version on Ebay. All tmo bands work

Reception on Tencent Rog 3 in U.S? How is it?

Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands and you can get it in lower storage capacities than the global one. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S

Sugaaa said:
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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My buddy has the tencent version and has no signal at times, when I do on my a version. Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.

bs3pro said:
Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.

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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.

bs3pro said:
Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years

Sugaaa said:
You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.

bs3pro said:
I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.

Sugaaa said:
The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.

bs3pro said:
INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily

Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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Lol, I just told you. 12gb, 512 IS the smallest in usa. Whatever, I'm done repeating myself

Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913

TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version

Thanks for the clarification but I still think the point stands for the actual specs as opposed to the region of production

bs3pro said:
Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
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Can you put a link to the chinese version a you bought on ebay for 1000 if it's even still available. I'm only seeing global version a 12gb 512gb for 1200

TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.

Sugaaa said:
Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Yeah, that's honestly was I was trying to get at. There's no reason to try and force yourself to like a phone that doesn't check every box for you, especially at it's price point. It's much better to get something that makes you happy and functions well than something that you forced yourself to like. Glad I could help!

Where can I purchase a global edition rog phone 3

Hi I have been after the ROG Phone 3 for a few weeks now but the only versions I can find are the tencent versions does anyone know where i can purchase the global edition from with the 16GB of RAM and 512GB storage thanks in advanve

Malaysia, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Australia too. JBHifi has it

For Malaysia you have to be careful. The 8/128 and 8/256 Strix versions are allegedly Version B, while the rest are supposedly version A. Asus HK at least acknowledged that my 16/512 set is Version A according to the SKU.
Apparently Asus' Marketing in Malaysia is different compared to other countries, Strix phones are lower end while the proper ROG phones are higher end.
I hear that Asus Singapore only sells Version A tho.