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Hi, I'm from Mexico and bought a Z1 in Telcel plan (the original model was 6906) I have about 4 years using phone android, I wanted the HTC One but take long time to get here to Mexico, so desperate and buy me this Z1 and I'm really disappointed as I do not understand why some models like mine can not unlock the bootloader, because among other things I can not flash any custom room, or having a good kernel tweaks. (I really love Carbon room) All this regardless of the phone too easily scratched screen, and failures of touch sensitivity on the right edge, I guess be for the location of the buttons.
anyone of you know why?.
Sorry about my bad english.
Thank you.
Because your phone is on Contract and they locked the Sim and Bootloader for security. One day when the contract expire or your phone get old you will be able to unlock sim but no bootloader. It's a deal made between your Carrier Network and Sony. If you buy a Unbranded and Sim Unlocked Z1 you don't have this problems.
eclyptos said:
Because your phone is on Contract and they locked the Sim and Bootloader for security. One day when the contract expire or your phone get old you will be able to unlock sim but no bootloader. It's a deal made between your Carrier Network and Sony. If you buy a Unbranded and Sim Unlocked Z1 you don't have this problems.
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That is not true !
Stop leading people the wrong way !
I bought my Z1 branded and sim-locked and i was allowed / able to unlock my bootloader. So, what you said has nothing to do with reality. And by the way ... could you tell us how you got that information?
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bogdan wst said:
That is not true !
Stop leading people the wrong way !
I bought my Z1 branded and sim-locked and i was allowed / able to unlock my bootloader. So, what you said has nothing to do with reality. And by the way ... could you tell us how you got that information?
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It is in that way but no all the Carrers Applay that method. Just google it. This argue was mention 100 times on XDA too.
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"ecliptos" - You are everywhere in this forum. I see you like to spend a lot of time on your computer. But please ... If you want to help some people on the forum ... give them good / real / complete information about what they are asking. If you aren't sure about something (as i've seen you many times), then don't mislead people and don't fill up the threads with unnecesary posts. They do not give you a prise for having 10k posts.
p.s. - JAEL65 - please excuse my offtopic.
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OMG
"ecliptos" - You are everywhere in this forum. I see you like to spend a lot of time on your computer. But please ... If you want to help some people on the forum ... give them good / real / complete information about what they are asking. If you aren't sure about something (as i've seen you many times), then don't mislead people and don't fill up the threads with unnecesary posts. They do not give you a prise for having 10k posts.
p.s. - JAEL65 - please excuse my offtopic.
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Co za Ku....a z ciebie! If you think is not that way you are welcome to come here and prove me wrong if not don't come here and telling me what I should or not. I do what I can and people learning everyday, me too. Thank you, bye.
Why some Z1 models can not unlock the bootloader?
Thanks, there are many topics dealing with this but there is no a clear answer, I already flash one room unbranded but 6903 because as I said the original model was 6906 so I have unlocked the sim, I read out there on xda that taking it to sony service, as has unlocked the sim, they can change unlocking bootloader allowed: NO by Yes.
I'll try this way.
Greetings.
It's about specific negotiations between Sony with each Carrier
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.
Hobbes2099 said:
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.
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Unlocking Bootloader will avoid warranty in any case, Yes or No, buy actually the Developers on XDA they saying is no way around and you can't unlock if the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to NO. So when you buy a phone from a any Carrier make sure the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to Yes.
Hobbes2099 said:
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.
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omg, no, you are so wrong
If it says no you can't unlock, they're us no way around it..
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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Unlocking Bootloader will avoid warranty in any case, Yes or No, buy actually the Developers on XDA they saying is no way around and you can't unlock if the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to NO. So when you buy a phone from a any Carrier make sure the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to Yes.
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Here in mexico punish us with prices, sony officially sold the Z1, at $ 1000 usd (no brand) With a 2-year contract I could get $ 350 usd in telcel. Besides, very few models get really good, slow to arrive and bring an outdated firmware. Google does not sell their phones officially. But I want to unlock the bootloader because I am almost certain now that the bugs are resolved that brings z1, soon going to release a firmware google edition for z1 (I really wish it) and I need to unlock the bootloader to install.
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Here in mexico punish us with prices, sony officially sold the Z1, at $ 1000 usd (no brand) With a 2-year contract I could get $ 350 usd in telcel. Besides, very few models get really good, slow to arrive and bring an outdated firmware. Google does not sell their phones officially. But I want to unlock the bootloader because I am almost certain now that the bugs are resolved that brings z1, soon going to release a firmware google edition for z1 (I really wish it) and I need to unlock the bootloader to install.
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Check your bootloader, just write *#*#7378423#*#* and go to Service Info > Configuration > Rooting Status if there is Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO probably you can't unlock your bootloader. Call Sony Center and ask if this is possible but no guarantee about that.
gregbradley said:
omg, no, you are so wrong
If it says no you can't unlock, they're us no way around it..
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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Are you positive about this?
I was under the impression you could get around the locked bootloader even if the device says No.
I'm not sure if I even want to try because I would permanently lose the Bravia Engine should I succeed. I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but it sounds nice.
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if the device says unlocked bootloader: No, then it cant be done.
sim lock and bootloader locked are depends on your carrier, there are carriers that they have locked the sim only and still allows bootloader unlocked.
but some carriers locked both. you can get a phone which allows to unlocked bootloader, if you buy a free sim phone or bought not in the carrier contract but from other store like sony store or any store that sells free sim phone.
please dont make things complicated.
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I'm not sure if I even want to try because I would permanently lose the Bravia Engine should I succeed. I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but it sounds nice.
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With Unlocking Bootloader you will lose X-Reality, which is not a big deal anyway because it not improve the images, and Bionz processing but actually this not influence the functionality of the camera at all. No body said about Bravia Engine, I hope not.
I am from Mexico too. My bootloader is not allowed
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Hahaha....what a crazy answers...
Guys can't tell what's the difference between SIM and boot lock but are here first to be smart....
I must say, I feel in love in XDA when I was on my Xperia S, now... I just wanna hit my self with some blunt object...
Of course, thumb up for all nice people here...
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any luck yet?
I just wondered if anyone had gotten any news from Sony as to if the bootloader on a not allowed model van be unlocked in anyway?
I'm aware that threads exist and ppl are flashing roms on handsets with locked bootloader but I think those are allowed to unlock theirs.
Is there still no way to unlock bootloader on disallowed models either officially or unofficial?
I want custom rom
Just to add a little clarity to this, gregbradley helped me a lot with this.
If you've bought the phone from a carrier then there is a distinct chance that the bootloader unlockable status will be a flat no.
What does this mean?
This means that you will never (unless someone cracks it, highly unlikely) be able to unlock your bootloader.
If you bought your phone from certain carriers (like 3 in the UK, or so i'm told) or from third parties like carphone warehouse in the UK, then you WILL be able to unlock the bootloader, as the status for unlocking the bootloader will read "Yes".
If you see a yes then youre in luck, if it reads no then you most certainly will not be able to unlock the bootloader.
Further to this, Sony will not help you with this whatsoever, I have asked and asked and got little more than a scripted response, they WILL NOT help you to unlock your bootloader.
The sim being locked to a particular network means nothing to the bootloader, it's simply a coincidence that third parties who have bootloader unlockable phones are too sim free.
Hope this clears things up for people who weren't sure.
AFAIK, it is at the carriers request that the bootloader is in this state, not Sony's, probably why they won't help with it, but that's a guess.
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magic mushroom said:
I just wondered if anyone had gotten any news from Sony as to if the bootloader on a not allowed model van be unlocked in anyway?
I'm aware that threads exist and ppl are flashing roms on handsets with locked bootloader but I think those are allowed to unlock theirs.
Is there still no way to unlock bootloader on disallowed models either officially or unofficial?
I want custom rom
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You can still have all the goodness of custom roms m8, you just won't be able to flash kernels like doom kernel and or AOSP rom's and CM10 based roms.
In all fairness, youre not missing out on too much, but I was the same when i had a locked phone, the grass always appears to be greener on the other side until you realise it's actually not.
Is it possible to unlock Samsung SM-G900A - from AT&T and use different sim card in another county
I have the same doubt. Any way?
waranty92 said:
Is it possible to unlock Samsung SM-G900A - from AT&T and use different sim card in another country
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I'm not sure, but maybe you can ask the AT&T customer care to give you the unlock code as well as the method to do it.
That's what I tried for my S2 and S3. I had them under contract. And if you buy it without contract, shouldn't it be unlocked already? Just curious!
I'll ask about the unlock process to AT&T tomorrow and let you know if the same trick works or not
Unless I'm not mistaken, you are not talking about rooting the device already, are you!
If you ever want to modify your phone, I recommend returning during your 14 day trial period. Otherwise, you will be stuck with a worthless piece of junk. Although nobody has verified this yet, the SM-G900T (tmobile) appears to support the same bands but I need someone to test with a ATT SIM
I want to root the phone because it may be blacklisted by at&t
I unlocked mine whit Swift Unlock.
The T-Mobile version (SM-G900T) supports all of the frequencies of AT&T, plus WCDMA 1700 MHz. Additionally, it's the only variant with an unlocked bootloader. I know people using it on AT&T.
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The T-Mobile version (SM-G900T) supports all of the frequencies of AT&T, plus WCDMA 1700 MHz. Additionally, it's the only variant with an unlocked bootloader. I know people using it on AT&T.
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Is unlocked bootloader avaliable on this forum and is it flashable on stock version,
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Is unlocked bootloader avaliable on this forum and is it flashable on stock version,
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That question makes no sense. By "bootloader unlocked", I mean that the T-Mobile version is the only variant that lets you flash anything without stopping you (e.g. custom ROM, custom recovery, custom kernel). Depending on what you flash, you will trip Knox though.
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That question makes no sense. By "bootloader unlocked", I mean that the T-Mobile version is the only variant that lets you flash anything without stopping you (e.g. custom ROM, custom recovery, custom kernel). Depending on what you flash, you will trip Knox though.
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I'm not getting answer of main question, can I flash custom rom or root Samsung SM-G900A and use it with any sim card even if it is blacklisted by AT&T
waranty92 said:
I'm not getting answer of main question, can I flash custom rom or root Samsung SM-G900A and use it with any sim card even if it is blacklisted by AT&T
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Blacklisting means the phone is lost, stolen or was not paid for completely. That means you can't use it on AT&T, and on any carriers that enforce a blacklist (most do in the US). It has nothing to do with custom ROMs or root.
Product F(RED) said:
Blacklisting means the phone is lost, stolen or was not paid for completely. That means you can't use it on AT&T, and on any carriers that enforce a blacklist (most do in the US). It has nothing to do with custom ROMs or root.
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I don't want to use it in US, it will be used in the different country, and my question is simple, can I unlock it to use in different country with different operator witch don't care if the phone is blacklisted by AT&T, i need the phone just accept new sim and work with it
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I don't want to use it in US, it will be used in the different country, and my question is simple, can I unlock it to use in different country with different operator witch don't care if the phone is blacklisted by AT&T, i need the phone just accept new sim and work with it
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I think what he is trying to say is, in the case I have a blacklisted non-unlocked SM G900A, is there a way possible to use this phone with another SIM under a non US based carrier in a different country. Also what he is wondering is maybe this is possible through rooting? if not is there any way that this can be done if yes please help... Thank you for all the feedback!
I don't think there's a way to do it through root. AT&T won't help you because it's blacklisted. You would need an eBay unlock service or something along those lines.
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I think MobileTechVideos.com is the final solution.
They are an affordable service with great solutions to mostly everything.
Press the thanks button if this helped you :good:
no......and there is not a service that can "repair" the IMEI either......I "repair" IMEI quite a bit with a JTAG and the software will not work until there is a root available. You can however sell it in another country and it won't matter that it is blacklisted in the US. Unlocking the phone or rooting it won't do you any good in the US anyway since all companies have a joined blacklist now. If it's bad on one it's bad on all.
I unlocked my phone with this http://www.getunlocked.com/ page and it worked, Thanks for atantion
Yes it works
enigma99a said:
If you ever want to modify your phone, I recommend returning during your 14 day trial period. Otherwise, you will be stuck with a worthless piece of junk. Although nobody has verified this yet, the SM-G900T (tmobile) appears to support the same bands but I need someone to test with a ATT SIM
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I can verify the Att sim does in fact work with the "SM-G900T". I recently sim unlocked via "theunlockingcompany_._com" Worked perfect.
I purchased my phone outright And an AT&T agent gave me my unlock code right away with no questions asked. Was very simple. ..I might have gotten lucky though. Just saying
can i unlock
Hello.i have a brand new SM G900A FROM AT&T.but i want to use another carriers sim.please help.i need this phone for work..so i could really use some good advise..thanks
Hello guys I need an important information ...
as we know you can make the Root of S6 edge verizon but not unlock the bootloader ...
I asked for info you have got to test Z3X box with the ability to unlock the booloader? or the need for a release with Z3X JTAG? :
I wanted to know if they knew more experienced than me by flashing a cert if an SM-G925F there was the ability to unlock and flash the bootloader always with Z3X box ....
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Hello guys I need an important information ...
as we know you can make the Root of S6 edge verizon but not unlock the bootloader ...
I asked for info you have got to test Z3X box with the ability to unlock the booloader? or the need for a release with Z3X JTAG? :
I wanted to know if they knew more experienced than me by flashing a cert if an SM-G925F there was the ability to unlock and flash the bootloader always with Z3X box ....
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The website says yes. Buy a, box and key us know
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are you sure?
Dri94 said:
The website says yes. Buy a, box and key us know
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Are you sure that by flashing a cert with the box solves the problem of the bootloader and to be able to flash any firmware with Z3X of sm-g925v?
Where you read it if I ask? you have a link?
Thank you
I dont know if it unlocks the bootloader at all. its under support devices here though http://z3x-team.com/samsung-activation/
they have a contact page. email them. if it does, you can make a lot of money. and m9 user got the htc card and charged a fee for people to send in devices to root. he got around a hundred devices sent to him and charged at least 20 dollars. So contact them. itll be worth the investment (if your in the usa and not in my home country of italy like your profile says lol)
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I dont know if it unlocks the bootloader at all. its under support devices here though http://z3x-team.com/samsung-activation/
they have a contact page. email them. if it does, you can make a lot of money. and m9 user got the htc card and charged a fee for people to send in devices to root. he got around a hundred devices sent to him and charged at least 20 dollars. So contact them. itll be worth the investment (if your in the usa and not in my home country of italy like your profile says lol)
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he did ask on their forum on 8/26 and doesnt seem like they really pay attention to that site lol i also never heard if it
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I'm a Italian
Dri94 said:
I dont know if it unlocks the bootloader at all. its under support devices here though http://z3x-team.com/samsung-activation/
they have a contact page. email them. if it does, you can make a lot of money. and m9 user got the htc card and charged a fee for people to send in devices to root. he got around a hundred devices sent to him and charged at least 20 dollars. So contact them. itll be worth the investment (if your in the usa and not in my home country of italy like your profile says lol)
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I'm a Italian and i bought a S6 edge verizon the network is unlocked in Italy !
I'm trying to unlock the bootloader and flash the firmware international!
I already bought my Z3X appearance and his arrival to test it! I wanted to know in advance if someone had tried!
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I'm a Italian and i bought a S6 edge verizon the network is unlocked in Italy !
I'm trying to unlock the bootloader and flash the firmware international!
I already bought my Z3X appearance and his arrival to test it! I wanted to know in advance if someone had tried!
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i highly doubt it will work unless you found a hidden gem lol.. usually locked BLs are hard to break and when it is broken typically it is well known and would have been posted..
i notice lots of sutes will post all kinds of devices being supported when its not just to get more sales.
My question to you is, whyd you buy a locked vzw device when you are in another country where you could have bought an unlocked variant? lol
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elliwigy said:
i highly doubt it will work unless you found a hidden gem lol.. usually locked BLs are hard to break and when it is broken typically it is well known and would have been posted..
i notice lots of sutes will post all kinds of devices being supported when its not just to get more sales.
My question to you is, whyd you buy a locked vzw device when you are in another country where you could have bought an unlocked variant? lol
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because it agreed with the low price and it works with my SIM!
Hard to understand what your saying right here
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I put my sim and is simply running and unlocked do not know why!
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We can't even boot into bootloader mode. Thats how locked down it is...you will be the first to try it out, I assume.
lucky_strike33 said:
We can't even boot into bootloader mode. Thats how locked down it is...you will be the first to try it out, I assume.
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well then we hope to be the first to be able to unlock!
ziojackj said:
well then we hope to be the first to be able to unlock!
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When do you expect to try it out?
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We can't even boot into bootloader mode. Thats how locked down it is...you will be the first to try it out, I assume.
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you do know odin/download mode is basically bootloader mode right? lol it displays the BL information as well as is used to flash BLs to the device. its similar to how cf auto root works when they unlock the BL and odin a custom kernel etc.
i just dont think itll work on a locked BL but we will see im sure lol
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you do know odin/download mode is basically bootloader mode right? lol it displays the BL information as well as is used to flash BLs to the device. its similar to how cf auto root works when they unlock the BL and odin a custom kernel etc.
i just dont think itll work on a locked BL but we will see im sure lol
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This is my first samsung phone and I have been using HTC for many years.
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This is my first samsung phone and I have been using HTC for many years.
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htc uses fastboot to my knowledge but is similar to samsungs download mode.. i love sammy devices and have always had them from the first galaxy device up through the s6e now.. only other device ive had was less than a year and was the LG Optimus G when it was new lol..
with that being said, looking at the n5 and s6e+ and the way its going ill most likely leave sammy with my next device.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.
Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL
Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.
Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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kgptzac said:
I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.
I did some google searching on this issue and I read that it requires to wait 7 days. Is there any way I can skip this waiting time and get the feature now? I dont understand why the owner would have to wait this time to begin with.
Change the date
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Change the date
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I went into date and time, turned off automatic and set the date 1 month back. Check for dates (after installing all updates prior). Restarted the phone. Turn on automatic date and time, check for updates, restarted. I still dont see the option.
Are you sure that works?
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I went into date and time, turned off automatic and set the date 1 month back. Check for dates (after installing all updates prior). Restarted the phone. Turn on automatic date and time, check for updates, restarted. I still dont see the option.
Are you sure that works?
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First question would be what you mean by unlocked model?
Carrier unlock doesn't cut it. You must have either Exynos version or Chinese/Hongkong version of Snapdragon phone (SM-G9700, SM-G9730, SM-G9750.) If not, no root.
Second, set calendar ahead not back.
Unlocked is vague. Is it carrier unlocked or bootloader unlocked?
It is both carrier and bootloader unlocked. I should of been more specific. Sorry.
I'd still like to know the purpose of having to wait a week before this option exists? So I could have a lot of progress made on my phone with downloading apps with its data and have a bunch of contacts (which can be backed up with Google) but then the phone needs to be wiped for the bootloader to be unlocked. Seems like it would save a lot of trouble to just have this available from the start with no hassle.
I found out that even though I own the unlocked model of the phone it is bootloader locked because its the US model with Snapdragon. I thought unlocked model meant both carrier and bootloader and getting those carrier models would have the bootloader locked. It makes no sense why Samsung would be hell bent on locking down even unlocked models. I just hope this doesnt screw me out of root.
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I found out that even though I own the unlocked model of the phone it is bootloader locked because its the US model with Snapdragon. I thought unlocked model meant both carrier and bootloader and getting those carrier models would have the bootloader locked. It makes no sense why Samsung would be hell bent on locking down even unlocked models. I just hope this doesnt screw me out of root.
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Well yea, it means you're screwed out of root. It's been common knowledge and widely discussed on XDA for a few years now that US Snapdragon phones aren't rootable.
Tel864 said:
Well yea, it means you're screwed out of root. It's been common knowledge and widely discussed on XDA for a few years now that US Snapdragon phones aren't rootable.
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I want to make sure I have a firm understanding for the future. So every model of Samsung phones from the US will have its bootloader locked and the only way to have an unlocked bootloader is to get an unlocked international version?
For someone that lives in the US where would I even get my hands on this? Retail stores is out of the question I assume but what would I look for online.
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I want to make sure I have a firm understanding for the future. So every model of Samsung phones from the US will have its bootloader locked and the only way to have an unlocked bootloader is to get an unlocked international version?
For someone that lives in the US where would I even get my hands on this? Retail stores is out of the question I assume but what would I look for online.
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You can find them on ebay or Amazon among other places. My experience is seller "never-msrp" on ebay is reliable and offers means to buy warranty
in US. You are looking for model nos. SM-G970* (S10e), SM-G973* (S10), or SM-G975* (S10+) where asterisk is either an "F" for Exynos international version or "0" (zero) for Chinese/Hong Kong Snapdragon version. It's up to you to read and learn which type offers the features you like best. Frankly, more reading and learning before buying would have saved you from the situation you now find yourself in. But, hey, we have all been there.
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I went into date and time, turned off automatic and set the date 1 month back. Check for dates (after installing all updates prior). Restarted the phone. Turn on automatic date and time, check for updates, restarted. I still dont see the option.
Are you sure that works?
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Change date forwards not backwards.