why does it happen that when everytime i install a game for ppc , the resolution for the game will be very small ? it happens on every game that i install on the phone.
if the game is hardcoded to qvga
and real vga dont help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2818509#post2818509
there is nothing anybody can do
That's what happens when you get Free Online Games. If you pay for the game and it was built specifically for the PPC it will use full resolution
In this topic we will discuss about console/platform emulators compatible with Touch Pro.
So far I got these working on the TP:
- PicoDrive
- FinalBurn
- Genesis Plus by n0p (you can achieve better framerate with PicoDrive - but far away from smooth gameplay)
- PocketSNES by n0p (better for SNES, but far away from smooth gameplay)
- PocketSNES by masterall
The emulator were tested with sound.
Performance tests (more to come?)
- Picodrive (Sonic 3): HTC Tornado (SPV C600) vs HTC TOuch PRo.
More information about poor touch pro graphics performance can be found here.
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I've also tried PocketSNES without succes (black screen when trying to load a ROM), PocketNester Plus (program exits after loading a ROM)
Haven't checked yet:
- FPSCe (playstation emulator)
- MorphGear (multi-console: NES, Sega, GBA)
- PocketScumm
You may check this guide.
Please post here your experience with emulators on TP. Also, you may post link to workable emulators and I will update the first post.
I Tried finalburn, can load ROMs with it, plays perfect, but on the same time are unplayble, due that the keyboard maps the same (OE) key on all.
Still haven't found a fix for this. Do you know of one?
For the fix try this. If the arrow keys are inversed, just map:
- Up: left key
- Down: right key
- Left: down key
- Right: up key
Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device, otherwise you will get full of annoying vertical delays. Anyway, at this point emulation is better (fluid) on my good old Tornado overclocked at 252Mhz than on touch pro (tested Sonic 3 with PicoDrive) .
I've been using the Gameboy Color emulator PocketGnuboy v1.21 with the KforTouchPro 1.0.0.3 keyboard fix. It runs well when set to 160x144 with sound enabled. I've noticed that Frame Skip has to be set at Auto or else the phone crashes after a bit.
Scummvm works and looks fantastic on TP only issue i had was that i couldn't map keys to the qwerty keyboard, but most games where still very playable, even COMI worked for a while!
Hope that helps
using morphgear gbc module with the fix by dilta.. works very smoothly
For an SNES emulator, use n0p's:
http://n0p.tonych.info/?PocketSNES
You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out. Also, there's no sound. Other than that, games tend to run smoothly (although I've come across a few that just don't work). Still need the KforTouch fix though.
Also, in your main thread you said Morphgear supports GBA, but from what I've seen it only supports GBC. I was able to get PocketGBA to work:
http://sunbug.net/attachements/download/9
However, I haven't found any way to put the emulator in the correct display mode for using the hardware keyboard, so I was stuck using the sucky directional pad on the Touch Pro with the touch screen keys. But, it works like a charm.
Alot of complains about the TP i cant seem to fit any of the complains here on my device v 1.90.409.6
1:You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out! >-->> i play it perfectly on my TP with sound and in ladscape mode with the keyboard to play with no need to use the skin i use pocketsnes 1.52!
2: Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device! >-->> i use picodrive and cant see any redraw issue on my phone also need to limit fps to 50-60 to get the games run perfect or they run too fast!
the only redraw issue i get is in opera browser! IE work greate without the redraw...so im not sure why my device dont get the other problem on emulators..and for the key settings use (shift left) (ctrl left) (tab left) and (q or a) for the r1 and l1 buttons on the snes use the volume keys its alot playable then for emulators i recommend is PocketSnes 1.52 (super nintendo) PicoDrive 0.52 (sega genesis) PocketGba Rel 060723 (gameboy advance) fpsece (playstation slow yeat but some games you get 30fps+) PocketNesterPlus 0.9 (nintendo) FinalBurn 0.011 (arcade) is some of the emus i recommend for you and all this emulators i can run at landscape for a note hope this help some!
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Alot of complains about the TP i cant seem to fit any of the complains here on my device v 1.90.409.6
1:You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out! >-->> i play it perfectly on my TP with sound and in ladscape mode with the keyboard to play with no need to use the skin i use pocketsnes 1.52!
2: Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device! >-->> i use picodrive and cant see any redraw issue on my phone also need to limit fps to 50-60 to get the games run perfect or they run too fast!
the only redraw issue i get is in opera browser! IE work greate without the redraw...so im not sure why my device dont get the other problem on emulators..and for the key settings use (shift left) (ctrl left) (tab left) and (q or a) for the r1 and l1 buttons on the snes use the volume keys its alot playable then for emulators i recommend is PocketSnes 1.52 (super nintendo) PicoDrive 0.52 (sega genesis) PocketGba Rel 060723 (gameboy advance) fpsece (playstation slow yeat but some games you get 30fps+) PocketNesterPlus 0.9 (nintendo) FinalBurn 0.011 (arcade) is some of the emus i recommend for you and all this emulators i can run at landscape for a note hope this help some!
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You must be using those emulators without sound? That's the only way you're going to get 100% speed. I've used every one of those emulators you've mentioned, and I haven't been able to get full speed on any one using landscape mode with the hardware keyboard.
@Quake3000, I can record a video if you don't believe me. Try a fast action game such as Sonic 3 & Knukles.
... And the redraw issue si present not only in opera. Just see my videos from here (i've done a test with IE too). Maybe you just don't feel it.. try with other sites . Anyway, we are kinda offtopic here. We can contine the discussion in the appropiate topic specified above.
@kevingilbert thanks for the links, I will try them ASAP and update my first post. I haven't tried yet MorphGear, but on this page GBA is also mentioned..
@0llyTouchPro have you tried KforTouchPro?
@at10ti0n thanks !. any other experience?
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You must be using those emulators without sound? That's the only way you're going to get 100% speed. I've used every one of those emulators you've mentioned, and I haven't been able to get full speed on any one using landscape mode with the hardware keyboard.
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nope with sound my favorite games on the genesis is the sonic games i have them all from sonic 1 to sonic 3d even sonic spinball...what firmware do you have? anyway i will see when il get time to record a video. Need to get my nokia N95 back from the care center first. then il use that to record with since my video camera died this summer after a very big fall from mountain there the plan was to film when i was mountain climbing:/
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nope with sound my favorite games on the genesis is the sonic games i have them all from sonic 1 to sonic 3d even sonic spinball...what firmware do you have? anyway i will see when il get time to record a video. Need to get my nokia N95 back from the care center first. then il use that to record with since my video camera died this summer after a very big fall from mountain there the plan was to film when i was mountain climbing:/
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I'm amazed. And I'm almost certain it can't be true. I'm running the stock Sprint firmware. With sound I can only run 100% speed with jittery movement due to all the frame skipping. I'll have to await your video.
DSF I'd like to thank you for making this thread, I'm a gamer, and I really wanna know how the Touch Pro compares to the tilt in gaming. The tilt cant play any emulators without lagging or needing to disable sound.
One main concern I have is, does the TP have the same touchscreen bug that the tilt had? the one that when you held down the touchscreen it would lag horribly? best way to tell is map the onscreen buttons in finalburn and see if it starts lagging.
speaking of finalburn, what roms have you tried and how was the peformance?
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DSF I'd like to thank you for making this thread, I'm a gamer, and I really wanna know how the Touch Pro compares to the tilt in gaming. The tilt cant play any emulators without lagging or needing to disable sound.
One main concern I have is, does the TP have the same touchscreen bug that the tilt had? the one that when you held down the touchscreen it would lag horribly? best way to tell is map the onscreen buttons in finalburn and see if it starts lagging.
speaking of finalburn, what roms have you tried and how was the peformance?
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Hey Mikeeey,
Good to see you on this forum. I'd only ever seen you post on Modaco.
Unfortunately, there's always a little lag on finalburn - even when using the software keyboard. Final Fight plays pretty good. CPS2 games (like D&D) I tried are a little more annoying. The big neo geo games also have some slowdown.
Actually, Mikeeey - your request made me find out something VERY interested. I just played D&D Tower of Doom and tried the screetap for the first time ever.
Using screentap instead of the action buttons - lag goes away altogether! I couldn't believe it and had to go through several fight scenes to prove it. Everytime I press a button on the keyboard in a fast action scene, the game stalls for a fraction of a second. If I do the same with a screen tap - there's no stall - it's just as fast as my 6700.
I think it's an issue of the program that we have to run in the background. I wish there was a fix for this, but HTC screwed up the keyboard setting such that without the background program - we can't map keys.
I've gotta say this is exciting, I played a few other games - and if we solved this, emulation on the touch pro would be near perfect.
Not sure why he says PokketNester doesn't work. Works perfectly for me.
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Hey Mikeeey,
Good to see you on this forum. I'd only ever seen you post on Modaco.
Unfortunately, there's always a little lag on finalburn - even when using the software keyboard. Final Fight plays pretty good. CPS2 games (like D&D) I tried are a little more annoying. The big neo geo games also have some slowdown.
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hey PolloLoco nice to see you here too! well if you look at my post count youl see I've actually been here for quite some time lol. How long have you been here?
I had no idea you got a Touch Pro, thats awesome! I thought you had verizon? isnt the verizon version not out yet? if it is what do they call it? I'm recommending it to my friend who has verizon.
how much lag is a little lag? On my tilt it was so bad, if i tried playing metal slug with sound it would slow down and the sound would be skippy cuz it was lagging.
wow... so.. they fixed the screen bug..but now there are button bugs?? Idk which is worse.. Well hopefully there will be a fix for the button mapping issue and the buttons slowing down the game. Have you flashed to a custom rom?
I noticed the TP has less buttons for games in portrait mode. It doesnt have the left and right softkey.. am I correct?
have you played in finalburn games that were in portrait mode, like those verical air shooter games? DonPachi for example?
Could someone try DoomGLES on the TouchPro?
I would have when I went to play with the Fuze at the AT&T store but the guy had to grab one from the back and he watched me as I played with it, waiting for me to give it back so he could put it back in the box.
I've 100% discovered that any slowdown with games on the touch pro - is 100% due to lag from the keyboard. It may not even be the background program "Kfortouchpro". Some users have reported that they have keyboard lag when typing - UNTIL they flash to a new rom (GSM version). I hope there's a similar fix for the CDMA version. Then it may be reasonable to use this phone for gameplay with the keyboard.
What I did to test this was by digging up (it took hours) my old smartphone bluetooth joystick. I installed the program (told it it was an HTC Magician) and then mapped the joystick buttons to the very few hardware keys that register. By the way - on the keyboard, up down left and right map independently without k for touch pro - and there's apparently no lag.
Once I'd mapped to the hardware keys, I started playing Finalburn. It played awesome. Almost 100% speed. On some high speed action shootemups (shocktroopers 2) - I saw a little slowdown. That said, I'm picky about emulation, and I have no concerns about recommending Finalburn on the touchpro. It's beautiful, great speed, and it looks and sounds great on the VGA screen and speakers.
I then tried Picodrive - and it worked just as well! The difficult and jittery gameplay I had before, were purely from the keyboard lag. I'm happy - and I'm still hopeful I can connect my phone to the tv and play games from my couch on the bluetooth joystick. However, I'm expecting serious slowdown due to tv out.
Mikeeey, to answer 2 of your questions. I'd heard about Verizon's initial plans to issue a crippled touch pro - slower processor and half the ram - for the same price. So I sent a complaint e-mail, wondering why it wouldn't make sense to switch to Sprint. I never got a reply. So I decided to switch to Sprint. It makes sense for me - the same unlimited data plan is at least $15 cheaper than Verizon's and I haven't had any coverage issues since I got this phone 3 weeks ago.
The Verizon phone, since many user complaints - may not be as crippled as originally planned. The latest rumors I've heard were that the Verizon XV6850 will have almost the same processor and 192 megs of RAM as opposed to the 256 of the Sprint Touch Pro. Early leaks suggested that the Verizon prototype is a touch slower. We'll see.
Mikeeey - the vertical shooters you're suggesting would stink on this phone that way. The optical joystick and surrounding buttons stink. Very often you press one direction (they're connected) and the next direction registers. So it's not very accurate and I try not to use it. For a vertical shooter I'd either use the direction buttons on the pull out keyboard (they work as I mentioned) and the 3 front face buttons that register.
well im glad you discovered the problem, I'm glad to know it's fast!
ah yes, the speakers, how are they? louder than the 6700 and kaiser? does it have good sound quality?
So I assume you use the arrow keys on the keyboard then, isnt that difficult considering you cant easily go from 1 key to the next or press 2 at the same time. For example trying to press right and up at the same time? on my Tilt if I try to do that I end up pressing "enter" as well.
damn.. vertical shooters are my favorite.. does the D-pad actually "click" or is it touch buttons? I didnt have enough time to figure it out when I played with it. and is there a single softkey button on the device anywhere?
Hey guys,
I love the FPSE running on the XOOM - its the perfect size and amazing performance!
A couple of questions tho -
Does anyone know what all the settings do? in terms of acceleration: notably these:
- Mdec Acceleration
- Gte Acceleration
- Fast Booting
- HLE Mode
- Boost Mode
Also _ and this is my most important question_ what are the settings you are using right now!
I was playing FF7 with a frameskip of 45 with frame limiter and it works perfectly, but the enemy selector icon doesnt appear in battle when frameskip is enabled.
Anyone have a good set of settings they have found works well?
you shouldn't need to use frameskip at all, should run smoothly without, esp if you've overclocked the cpu
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you shouldn't need to use frameskip at all, should run smoothly without, esp if you've overclocked the cpu
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For some reason in the menus and battle the frame rate drops to 30 and the music crawls.
I need a little help. I have been playing with fpse running my backed up playstation games without changing any settings for a little while with little trouble on most games. A few won't work though like Descent. After some searching I found some recommendations on settings but can't get then to work. here is what happens-
I load bios sph1001.bin, turn off HLE mode (requires restart), set screen size to small, restart. When I restart fpse force closes instead and all settings revert to default. I have tried the same steps with just quitting, and backing out of the program and this does avoid the forse close but the settings still revert to default. I have also uninstalled and reinstalled fpse to see if that would help, it didn't. Any suggestions?
sorry for digging up an old thread but.... want to play gran turismo 2, works fine, exept i cant see any menus. when i'll save/load its there, but when i start without loading saved game its all black. any help with settings?
Dear Developers,
I am not much into mobile gaming, but I wanted to play a bit with Dungeon Defenders. I've installed the game, downloaded the content form the developers site, installed the game on the internal SD.
Unfortunately, the performance of the game is much lower than I expected on a TEGRA dual core device. The FPS is low, down to unplayable with multiple units at the dungeon.
Is there any solution for that? I have stock ROM, stock applications plus a few utilities (JuceDefender etc.) installed plus maybe 6 widgets.
Changing ROM is not an option for me as it voids warranty with my damn Polish LG branch :/
Help is very appreciated
Check if there are multiple other games running in the background like the pre instaled Shrek Karting and Spiderman games.
Kill the tasks or reboot and try again. I never played Dungeon Defenders much, but for the time I played it on the stock ROM it was absolutely smooth.
gregor40 said:
Dear Developers,
I am not much into mobile gaming, but I wanted to play a bit with Dungeon Defenders. I've installed the game, downloaded the content form the developers site, installed the game on the internal SD.
Unfortunately, the performance of the game is much lower than I expected on a TEGRA dual core device. The FPS is low, down to unplayable with multiple units at the dungeon.
Is there any solution for that? I have stock ROM, stock applications plus a few utilities (JuceDefender etc.) installed plus maybe 6 widgets.
Changing ROM is not an option for me as it voids warranty with my damn Polish LG branch :/
Help is very appreciated
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End all tasks using your task manager and then launch the game again, if for some reason the performance doesnt improve much then lower the video enhancement in the settings and that should make it run very smothly.
Overclocking to play this game helps alot too but it causes it to get hot like above 43c which isnt good.
Yes, the performance of this particular game on the O2X is embarrassing when you get to bigger maps such as the Ramparts. If you aren't playing it online, turning on flight mode will help a bit.
So I just updated my Note9 to latest Pie about a week ago. I like a lot of things, but found a couple really annoying problems. First is that when connected to Bluetooth in my car, when using YouTube Music app, 8 out of every 10 times the song finishes and starts the next track...I get no audio. I have to play/pause or hit next/previous to get audio back. But that's a different issue than this thread...
Second issue I just found is that Game Tuner is now gone. I used Game Tuner before to force some games to use full resolution for a much sharper visual experience. I primarily play Clash Royale and noticed that my game was looking a little blurry again
I found the settings within Game Launcher, but they aren't as good...and don't give you as much control over resolution. Everything is set to highest performance, but I can easily tell that the resolution isn't full as some of the graphics/text in the game are not nearly as sharp as before.
Any way to fix this??? Super annoying... The game doesn't require that much battery as-is and it's annoying that I can't make use of the awesome screen resolution.
The only way is by disabling Game Optimizing Service by using 'Package Disabler Pro ( Owner APP) All Android' in Play store.
Disable it and reboot.
Then all games are now just apps, you can't use Game Launcher/Game Tools. You may disable them too.
But the apps (once games) are now show in full resolution.
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The only way is by disabling Game Optimizing Service by using 'Package Disabler Pro ( Owner APP) All Android' in Play store.
Disable it and reboot.
Then all games are now just apps, you can't use Game Launcher/Game Tools. You may disable them too.
But the apps (once games) are now show in full resolution.
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And that's the only way to do it at this point? Seems so dumb...
What other negative implications does this have, if any? The obvious one I can think of is that any options for battery savings are not available any longer (which I normally don't really care about anyways).
And I assume this process is reversible, so you can just re-enabling the Game Optimizing service and rebooting to get back to original state again??
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And I assume this process is reversible, so you can just re-enabling the Game Optimizing service and rebooting to get back to original state again??
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Yes you are right
Looks like samsung just updated its game launcher, has more settings now and can disable the low res option.
Update and let us know please!
ars0n said:
Looks like samsung just updated its game launcher, has more settings now and can disable the low res option.
Update and let us know please!
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The update doesn't seem to change anything... There is an option for disabling/enabling the low resolution. But I get the slightly blurry output regardless of what I set that switch to.
To be fair, when I say it's blurry...it's actually fairly subtle. A couple of my less picky friends couldn't even tell the difference at first...but after looking side by side with a phone running native resolution, they could tell.
I'm picky about visuals/screens, so it bugs the crap out of me. If I have a great screen with high resolution, I'd like everything to look as good as possible. The slightly soft graphics are super annoying to me.
Not happy about this. I haven't tried the previously suggested option for Package Disabler because it seems like a slightly more involved process than I was inticipating...
GRRRRRR
bobn4burton said:
The update doesn't seem to change anything... There is an option for disabling/enabling the low resolution. But I get the slightly blurry output regardless of what I set that switch to.
To be fair, when I say it's blurry...it's actually fairly subtle. A couple of my less picky friends couldn't even tell the difference at first...but after looking side by side with a phone running native resolution, they could tell.
I'm picky about visuals/screens, so it bugs the crap out of me. If I have a great screen with high resolution, I'd like everything to look as good as possible. The slightly soft graphics are super annoying to me.
Not happy about this. I haven't tried the previously suggested option for Package Disabler because it seems like a slightly more involved process than I was inticipating...
GRRRRRR
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Do you know of a package disabler for the snapdragon note 9 running pie, stock phone not rooted? Seems like no matter which ones I try they no longer function since Oreo went to pie. If you know of one could you share the play store link as I could use it big time. Much thanks in advance.
Cheers!