So we have the ability to have the Lock Screen, Always On, and a secondary setting for "Show display when nearby." Turning on the "nearby" option however, seems to just always be on, as well. Testing it by turning the phone around, or walking away, and I see the lockscreen stays on. Am I misunderstanding what this feature does?
markcyst said:
So we have the ability to have the Lock Screen, Always On, and a secondary setting for "Show display when nearby." Turning on the "nearby" option however, seems to just always be on, as well. Testing it by turning the phone around, or walking away, and I see the lockscreen stays on. Am I misunderstanding what this feature does?
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you need to move away from the device. When the device senses that you are no longer near it, then the screen will turn off. Another user is using that with no issues. Maybe you didn't move far enough away from it?
Yeah he said 18 - 20 inch, which corresponds to a half a meter.
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Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
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Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
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Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
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Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
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Same here. I never use the power button to turn my phone on, the active notification screen turns on quite literally every time I go to use my phone. It's brilliant.
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Combined with a turn screen off widget/app and a mute widget/app, I never use any buttons on this phone.
You can do what I did and disable lockscreen completely. That way only active notifications will show when you pick up the phone.
So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
Sounds like a dead battery waiting to happen to me. If I bump my desk wrong at work and my phone isn't face down, active display lights up. It can do this several times in the period of 10 minutes, in essence leaving the screen on permanently.
1dtms said:
So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
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There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
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There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
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well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
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well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
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Could you elaborate on which situations you would like the screen to turn on like that based on notifications instead or active display?
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Set your screen timeout to 30 minutes and use the power button to turn it off. Then also turn off the lock screen. About as good as you're going to get, and short of coding the modification yourself, probably the best you'll get too.
I said in another thread recently.... Active Display is what it is. There's no way to modify it in anyway.
It appears that ambient display does not work when your screen lock setting is set to None.
I was showing a mate my Nexus 6 yesterday and started playing with a few settings. I noticed that all of a sudden my ambient display stopped working. I did some testing this morning and finally worked it out that when the screen lock setting is set to None, ambient display does not activate. Any notifications that come through stop appearing on the screen. Setting the screen lock setting to anything other than None ensures ambient display works once again.
1. Is this a known feature / situation for the N6 ?
2. Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior or is it just me ?
1. if you dont have a lockscreen then it cant show you notifications on it. duh, lol.
2. we all have known about this since before lollipop came out.
1. I see no reason why a notification could not be shown on the screen using ambient display even if I don't have a lock screen. It is not like I have actually turned the screen on yet.
2. And yet, when I tried searching for an answer to why my ambient display wasn't working, I found no mention of it at all, not in XDA or the web in general.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, it is clearly a feature of the phone.
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1. I see no reason why a notification could not be shown on the screen using ambient display even if I don't have a lock screen. It is not like I have actually turned the screen on yet.
2. And yet, when I tried searching for an answer to why my ambient display wasn't working, I found no mention of it at all, not in XDA or the web in general.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, it is clearly a feature of the phone.
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if you dont have a lockscreen, then it has nothing to show the incoming message on. if no lockscreen, then it would just show in the status bar.
I understand your point simms22, but I think you may be missing mine. Does it have to be the lock screen that the notification is shown on when it arrives.
For example, msg arrive, screen turns on to show msg. If I do nothing then the screen turns off. If I haven't interacted with the screen, does the notification really need the lock screen to be displayed? I guess that I'm just not convinced that the lock screen is needed to display notifications when I pick my phone up, ie before I touch the screen. If I then interact with a notification then perform the interaction, but if I touch a part of the screen where is no notification, open the device.
The above would be mute if I pick the device up and press the power button to open the home screen.
I guess I look at things a little different, I design systems and interfaces for a living for the Dept of Defence.
I have found that the ambient display does not always activate when I pick the phone up, I'd say its about 90% reliable, have u found the same ?
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I understand your point simms22, but I think you may be missing mine. Does it have to be the lock screen that the notification is shown on when it arrives.
For example, msg arrive, screen turns on to show msg. If I do nothing then the screen turns off. If I haven't interacted with the screen, does the notification really need the lock screen to be displayed? I guess that I'm just not convinced that the lock screen is needed to display notifications when I pick my phone up, ie before I touch the screen. If I then interact with a notification then perform the interaction, but if I touch a part of the screen where is no notification, open the device.
The above would be mute if I pick the device up and press the power button to open the home screen.
I guess I look at things a little different, I design systems and interfaces for a living for the Dept of Defence.
I have found that the ambient display does not always activate when I pick the phone up, I'd say its about 90% reliable, have u found the same ?
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yea, the way the code is written, there needs to be a lock screen to be displayed. i dont really use it anymore, but i found it to be around 90% as well.
Just to re-iterate, Ambient display is displaying the Lockscreen notifications, not SystemUI notifications, so to show the lockscreen notifications, Lockscreen must be on.
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It appears that ambient display does not work when your screen lock setting is set to None.
I was showing a mate my Nexus 6 yesterday and started playing with a few settings. I noticed that all of a sudden my ambient display stopped working. I did some testing this morning and finally worked it out that when the screen lock setting is set to None, ambient display does not activate. Any notifications that come through stop appearing on the screen. Setting the screen lock setting to anything other than None ensures ambient display works once again.
1. Is this a known feature / situation for the N6 ?
2. Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior or is it just me ?
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I totally agree. I upgraded from my 2013 Moto X, with Moto DIsplay, to the N6. I NEVER used a lock screen on the Motox, and enjoyed being able to just glance at the phone to know what was incoming.. its quite annoying that I can no longer get my notifications to show up on my screen without turning the phone on, and pulling the shade down. I'm on the computer all day, and have my phone setup next to me and use it to get a quick view of incoming work emails, with out taking my hands off the keyboard, or even stop typing for that matter.
If I would have known that the N6 was unable to work in this matter I would not have gotten it. I would have gone with the Moto X 2 instead.
Hi guys. Do you know any, preferably minimalistic, screen lock app that is compatible with ambient display? Have tried my fav Zui Locker with no luck.
tr3mm0r said:
Hi guys. Do you know any, preferably minimalistic, screen lock app that is compatible with ambient display? Have tried my fav Zui Locker with no luck.
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I dont think it works with any.
That's what I was afraid of. Sticking with stock locker then since I love the new feature.
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Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???
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Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???
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Just FYI, you can get rid of those "always running" notifications indefinitely by swiping the notification to the right and tapping "block notifications". It simply removes the card, and has no affect on the apps functionality.
Use Caffeine.
- Open it, give it the proper permissions (it will ask)
- Enable it
- Enable " Start at boot" and "Auto enable at boot"
- Close the app, open the notification panel, swipe right on the caffeine card and tap "block all notifications".
- As long as you don't go and change the display timeout settings in the actual settings app, your phone will never auto turn off, and can only be turned on/off manually just like normal.
And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.
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And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.
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I'm familiar with this method, even familiar with Caffeine, which I like more than any of the other junk ones in the Play Store, but I was hoping for something built-in that wouldn't require another running app to do something simple - Samsung / Android should have all the simple stuff figured out by now.... this was DEFINITIVELY the only thing the V20 had over the Note7 and now the Note8, I hated almost everything else about the phone but wasn't going backwards to the S7 when I had to turn the the Note7.
Thanks for your help, will use this solution until / unless someone has another (native, preferable) solution
Found the issue with using Caffeine as opposed to something native. Caffeine does a great job of keeping the screen in no matter what, any time it comes on. This also includes if the power state is changed, a missed call comes through, etc. It will turn on the screen, show you the lock screen, and just sit there.
The LG was capable of shutting the screen off after a short timeout when only on the lock screen, which would allow a notification or change in power from keeping the screen on indefinitely because it wasn't forcing ANY screen on input from doing it, only when unlocked, when it was appropriate to do so.
Any thoughts on how to fix this?
Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.
What ever happened to Screebl? I was going to recommend it to a friend, and couldn't find it any more... I guess it has just survived the port from phone to phone.
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Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.
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See signature - not my first AMOLED display phone.... When the screen is on for a long time, it's because I'm driving and using Maps and switching to Play Music, etc. I'm trying to avoid having the screen on all night long with it coming on when A) the phone gets fully charged, and B) when a notification or something wakes it because Caffeine is almost "too good" at what it does!
Hate that I had to use an app to do this, but I am really liking Screen Timeout that disables the timeout options Samsung gave us all together. Would love to know how to get this done, without the need for root, where I don't have to disable notifications for an app that constantly runs, though....
What it does, if anyone cares, is make none of the selections selected so the screen stays on ONLY when unlocked, exactly what I figured out I was looking for. I hope this helps someone else looking for a solution like this!
Here's the link to the app I'm using:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lhoer0.screentimeout
This has always been confusing and I am looking for clarification on the Lock Screen/ Screen dimming, etc.
So I went into the display settings and set it not to turn off for 1 minute. Then I checked the power saving settings just to be sure the screen would not go dim or lock after 5 seconds. That did not work. Then I checked the security settings to see if something was over ridding every other time out setting and I am lost. Either these settings have never really worked since the original note and android/ google is lazy or I am not doing something right.
Dose anyone have a step by step walk through of all the settings that would affect when the screen dimms and when it locks? (Sometimes I am running music through blue tooth and I don't want to the screen to dim for specific applications also. There has to be a setting somewhere because Google Maps does not allow the screen to dim or lock when in nav mode.
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This has always been confusing and I am looking for clarification on the Lock Screen/ Screen dimming, etc.
So I went into the display settings and set it not to turn off for 1 minute. Then I checked the power saving settings just to be sure the screen would not go dim or lock after 5 seconds. That did not work. Then I checked the security settings to see if something was over ridding every other time out setting and I am lost. Either these settings have never really worked since the original note and android/ google is lazy or I am not doing something right.
Dose anyone have a step by step walk through of all the settings that would affect when the screen dimms and when it locks? (Sometimes I am running music through blue tooth and I don't want to the screen to dim for specific applications also. There has to be a setting somewhere because Google Maps does not allow the screen to dim or lock when in nav mode.
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I really wish someone would have answered your question. Mainly since I have the same freaking problem.
When the phone app is running, I am constantly getting dimmed, seconds only to do something.
Tonight I was using an app that monitors BBQ temperatures. Always dims to fast. Set the screen timeout for 10 minutes. Still dimmed after 30 seconds or so.
How does this work? I'm not sure the screen timeout setting does anything.
The screen diming feature is part of the auto brightness function and works by using the ambiant light sensor to adjust the brightness of the display. According to the amount of light detected in front of the display.
Screen locking happens when you haven't used your device for a specific amount of time.
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The screen diming feature is part of the auto brightness function and works by using the ambiant light sensor to adjust the brightness of the display. According to the amount of light detected in front of the display.
Screen locking happens when you haven't used your device for a specific amount of time.
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It dims before it locks. That's what I was referring to. I think the OP was as well.
I set the display for 10 minute timeout. It dims and locks the screen in less than a minute. I can't figure out how to stop it.
Is that a clearer question?
Well my screen dims for some seconds before going out, but, always as per the time I set , for instance, if I set to go out after 5 mins of inactivity, it dims after 4 mins 55 seconds, then goes out, I dont use autobrightness, and I use entertainment mode
It was secure lock time setting.
It was disregarding the screen timeout.