N950U Shutting Down - CPU Usage Maxes Out - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I am out of things to try on this thing, I bought it used in February and ever since upgrading to Pie the phone will beginning shutting down during use, even while only watching youtube. Something is causing the cores to ramp up to 100%, it begins to warm up but not overheat and then shuts down usually around 70c I believe, no overheating message just straight cuts power. The only way to get it to power back on is to cool it down in front of a fan or car AC for a minute or so, then it will stay on and I can watch the CPU usage drop after a few minutes and then I can use it again. I have factory reset, cleared cash but the issue remains. As Android no longer allows seeing what is using CPU I have no way of trying to figure this out further. Any ideas?

Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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I havent tried this, kind of terrifies me. I have touched firmware since my S3. lol kind of afraid it might shut down while doing this and brick it

butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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Can anyone clarify if my device will brick if it shuts down while flashing firmware? Im getting desperate enough to want to try but I can't afford to replace the phone right now if it bricks.

drosenberg85 said:
Can anyone clarify if my device will brick if it shuts down while flashing firmware? Im getting desperate enough to want to try but I can't afford to replace the phone right now if it bricks.
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No it shouldn't brick it. It'll just take you to a screen that says the update failed and on that same screen you try to flash it again. In order to try to avoid that from happening can't you do it in front of a fan or something blowing air at the back of the phone to keep it cool? I really don't think it'll be doing so much with the CPU to cause it to do that but just in case use a fan or something.

MrMike2182 said:
No it shouldn't brick it. It'll just take you to a screen that says the update failed and on that same screen you try to flash it again. In order to try to avoid that from happening can't you do it in front of a fan or something blowing air at the back of the phone to keep it cool? I really don't think it'll be doing so much with the CPU to cause it to do that but just in case use a fan or something.
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Its not so much something I'm running that's causing the CPU usage, it happens even if only chrome or YouTube is open. I can go days without it happening , or somedays it's worse, 3 times today and the last time was the worst, it took 20 minutes to get it back. Sometimes turning off halfway through the Samsung logo. There's no overheat warning,CPU can be in the low 70s and it happens. Shutting off during the Samsung logo, could it even be the firmware? Is the battery a possibility?

drosenberg85 said:
Its not so much something I'm running that's causing the CPU usage, it happens even if only chrome or YouTube is open. I can go days without it happening , or somedays it's worse, 3 times today and the last time was the worst, it took 20 minutes to get it back. Sometimes turning off halfway through the Samsung logo. There's no overheat warning,CPU can be in the low 70s and it happens. Shutting off during the Samsung logo, could it even be the firmware? Is the battery a possibility?
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I would say if there's no update to the apps that are causing the problem then go into the app and uninstall the update by just uninstalling the app. See if that stops it. I don't think a battery would cause an overheating problem with the CPU but the battery itself could overheat causing the phone to shutdown but it wouldn't have any effect on the CPU like you're having so it has to either be the app itself the firmware or the CPU is having a problem.

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I would say if there's no update to the apps that are causing the problem then go into the app and uninstall the update by just uninstalling the app. See if that stops it. I don't think a battery would cause an overheating problem with the CPU but the battery itself could overheat causing the phone to shutdown but it wouldn't have any effect on the CPU like you're having so it has to either be the app itself the firmware or the CPU is having a problem.
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That's the thing, neither the battery or the cpu get overly hot, phone gets slightly warm to the touch but around 70c doesn't seem like overheating to me. I have no idea what app,.if it is an app causing it. Thanks to android 9 there's no way to tell what's eating cpu. My monitoring apps only show they are maxing out. My concern with the battery is that maybe it's a voltage issue, maybe it can't keep up the all the cores maxing out

drosenberg85 said:
That's the thing, neither the battery or the cpu get overly hot, phone gets slightly warm to the touch but around 70c doesn't seem like overheating to me. I have no idea what app,.if it is an app causing it. Thanks to android 9 there's no way to tell what's eating cpu. My monitoring apps only show they are maxing out. My concern with the battery is that maybe it's a voltage issue, maybe it can't keep up the all the cores maxing out
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Well for the Note 8 70c (158F) is a bit too hot for normal operating temperature. I read that someone's hasn't gone above 50c (122F) with normal usage for over 2 weeks so there's definitely something contributing to that. Do you have a ton of apps and stuff on the phone where it has to constantly check all kinds of stuff? Can you do dialer codes? Like *#9900# to run a dumpstate/logcat and then copy it to your SD card to read through it and see if anything seems out of order? It's huge just so you know..

butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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Happy Thanksgiving bro!

Same to you bro
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MrMike2182 said:
Well for the Note 8 70c (158F) is a bit too hot for normal operating temperature. I read that someone's hasn't gone above 50c (122F) with normal usage for over 2 weeks so there's definitely something contributing to that. Do you have a ton of apps and stuff on the phone where it has to constantly check all kinds of stuff? Can you do dialer codes? Like *#9900# to run a dumpstate/logcat and then copy it to your SD card to read through it and see if anything seems out of order? It's huge just so you know..
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I'm around 55 to 60c with normal use, but when the cores ram up it can get high 70s, but no overheating message, I dont run many apps, mostly games but I ran a factory reset and uninstalled a bunch of stuff still no go. I just happened again, I ran the dump and saved the log, I'll try and look at it tonight on my computer but have no idea what I'm looking for lol

drosenberg85 said:
I'm around 55 to 60c with normal use, but when the cores ram up it can get high 70s, but no overheating message, I dont run many apps, mostly games but I ran a factory reset and uninstalled a bunch of stuff still no go. I just happened again, I ran the dump and saved the log, I'll try and look at it tonight on my computer but have no idea what I'm looking for lol
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Starting to seem like it's either a hardware issue or the firmware you're using. Have you tried using a different firmware version as long as it's the same bootloader version?

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Starting to seem like it's either a hardware issue or the firmware you're using. Have you tried using a different firmware version as long as it's the same bootloader version?
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Not yet, I downloaded the same firmware version I have and was gonna try as a last resort, currently on
N950USQS6DSI3. Had no issues until I believe I updated to pie, lol

drosenberg85 said:
Not yet, I downloaded the same firmware version I have and was gonna try as a last resort, currently on
N950USQS6DSI3. Had no issues until I believe I updated to pie, lol
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Then get away from that version just go back one lol.

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Then get away from that version just go back one lol.
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So an update and some more questions. I ran a few factory resets and the phone shut down during initial OS setup, had to put it in the freezer. I have done a firmware flash yet as I was finally able to reproduce the issue multiple times. I ran a cpu stress test and as soon as it gets in the mid to high 80s it shuts down, did it 3 times. Shouldn't there be a warning and shouldn't it throttle? It seems to be the temp sensor on one core, I'm not sure how accurate these. I attached a screenshot, the circled core is the one that spikes in temp causing the shutdown. I think I'm looking at a hardware failure maybe?

drosenberg85 said:
So an update and some more questions. I ran a few factory resets and the phone shut down during initial OS setup, had to put it in the freezer. I have done a firmware flash yet as I was finally able to reproduce the issue multiple times. I ran a cpu stress test and as soon as it gets in the mid to high 80s it shuts down, did it 3 times. Shouldn't there be a warning and shouldn't it throttle? It seems to be the temp sensor on one core, I'm not sure how accurate these. I attached a screenshot, the circled core is the one that spikes in temp causing the shutdown. I think I'm looking at a hardware failure maybe?
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Yep definitely hardware! You need a new phone or board!

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Nexus One charging at 106F ~Froyo

my nexus one is charging on a regular basis around 106-7 F. I know there is another thread about this issue but the question was not resolved. So does anyone have experience with this issue. Is it a defect or dangerous? I have OSmonitor installed, this si where I am reading my temps. I also notice the CPU usage is pegged around 98-99%..is this normal?
I heard using setCPU with a charging profile can solve this problem if you have root?
No, it is not normal for the cpu to be maxed out while charging. Are you using the car dock or a wall charger?
nexous one
mine does the same thing all the time its not going to damage your phone at all
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
my phone is perfect just set your set cpu for fail safe and your all good
You probably could use SetCPU to solve this problem, but the fact that your CPU usage is so high in the first place means there is something going wrong - my guess would be a rogue app.
Try downloading a task killer from the Market. Kill each app running one at a time then check your CPU usage. You'll soon find the culprit.
sn95chico said:
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
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Yeah I'm starting to see the problem with the phone having a metal casing. Not good when it's summer and you have to place it under direct sunlight for extended amounts of time, while using navigation AND charging
That thing can get burning hot alright.
Are you using froyo 2.2?
I have had the same problem; I also have random periods of high cpu use when not charging as well. This issue is not caused by problem apps either. I must reboot to fix the issue, sometimes I must reboot several times until the cpu load is back to normal.
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
I will also try to reapply the 2.2 update.
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I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
frandavid100 said:
Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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I bet your heat issues are related to cpu loads or staying at high frequencies like mine. Sometimes the phone does not feel like it is really running as hard as the system monitors say, though it may still get hot.
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
I am re-flashing the leaked 2.2 update to make sure there was no issue with the original install. I am also using the copy my GF downloaded when I sent her the instructions on the off chance that my download was corrupted in some small way; unlikely but hey. I do think that the original flash may have gone wrong, as mine hung and never rebooted after the flash was complete; I had to manually reboot. Lets hope this fixes it.
This issue may be more widespread than we realize, as many people do not actively monitor their cpu or notice/worry about the heat after charging. I do believe that these leaked ROMs send debug data to google, I remember reading something along those lines; these are internal test ROMs after all. Maybe this is a reason that 2.2 is not out yet, this and other bugs found during real world use.
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Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
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What I did was follow this guide up to the point where you have a stock eclair rom, then not upgrade to Froyo. Keep using that for some time, see whether the phone gets hot or not, THEN (if you want) move back to Froyo.
I am using the wall charger hat came with the nexus one. I am also running Froyo 2.2... can I set a CPU fail safe without my phone being rooted? Also what is a quick to check if my phone is rooted? I just bought this Nexus One from someone. I know on my G1 it was rooted bc I had Superuser permissions.
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
The fastest way I can think would be installing Lamppu, then trying to use it to light up the camera flash. If it works your phone is flashed, if it doesn't it's not.
As for your other questions... sorry, i don't know. I hope someone else can help you.
foethalove said:
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
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Thats a system process so you can not kill it.
Going to test my GFs nexus and see if she has these issues as well.
I restored my N1 to the factory image, the updated back through each update to 2.2; so far so good. My GF's N1 has been running fine since I really started watching it, so I figured it would hurt to try to restore and redo the update.
No 100% cpu load during charging any more!
i am using the Motorola charger and my phone is not getting hot at all. with the charger that comes in the box for the N1 it seems to heat up.
Still had the CPU load get stuck at 100% today; though charging is not forcing 100% loads any more.
By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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System monitor apps, some will even put a little icon in the notification tray that shows current cpu load.

Do I need a new battery?

Basically, I have been on Tek rom forever upgrading correctly as needed. Jus recently went to Marshmallow and Maximum Overdrives latest but noticed every so often my phone will act crazy. (lagging, freezing while screens off, and sometimes it'll place itself into download mode if the battery is too low and the error on the download mode will read (couldn't do normal boot)
If anyone is familiar, I'd like to know if it's as simple as a new battery or am I experiencing some kind of hardware failure?
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Basically, I have been on Tek rom forever upgrading correctly as needed. Jus recently went to Marshmallow and Maximum Overdrives latest but noticed every so often my phone will act crazy. (lagging, freezing while screens off, and sometimes it'll place itself into download mode if the battery is too low and the error on the download mode will read (couldn't do normal boot)
If anyone is familiar, I'd like to know if it's as simple as a new battery or am I experiencing some kind of hardware failure?
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Ooh. I've experienced this once or twice. You may just need a good Wipe of all on the phone and then for good measure do a fresh ODIN. That's what I did and all it well. But YMMV as always.
This isn't a battery related issue. However, having a spare battery never hurts.

CPU small cores do not stop, big cores not working

So, my issue is as the title shows.
The A53 cores do not stop, and A57 cores only work like 0-1 core at a time, usually doing nothing.
Which causes my phone to be heating up whenever it isn't sleeping, sometimes drains battery even when charging at 2A.
I'm using E6533(dual sim version), and it happened when I updated my phone to 7.1.1(32.4.A.0.160) from 7.0.0(32.3.A.2.33) firmware with flashtool.
Yes, I've rooted my phone, but just for removing shutter sounds.
I tried to rollback to my TWRP backup, factory reset, rollback to 32.2.A.0.305, using custom ROM(lineage), quite everything I know, but nothing worked.
Does anyone have a clue of what might be the problem, and what might work?
Thank you.
baconbeacon said:
So, my issue is as the title shows.
The A53 cores do not stop, and A57 cores only work like 0-1 core at a time, usually doing nothing.
Which causes my phone to be heating up whenever it isn't sleeping, sometimes drains battery even when charging at 2A.
I'm using E6533(dual sim version), and it happened when I updated my phone to 7.1.1(32.4.A.0.160) from 7.0.0(32.3.A.2.33) firmware with flashtool.
Yes, I've rooted my phone, but just for removing shutter sounds.
I tried to rollback to my TWRP backup, factory reset, rollback to 32.2.A.0.305, using custom ROM(lineage), quite everything I know, but nothing worked.
Does anyone have a clue of what might be the problem, and what might work?
Thank you.
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did u tryed to install a custom rom? or a stock but flashing a kernel?
op3n said:
did u tryed to install a custom rom? or a stock but flashing a kernel?
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I was using stock ROM, but while trying to fix the issue, I've tried custom ROM too. Though nothing has changed…
baconbeacon said:
I was using stock ROM, but while trying to fix the issue, I've tried custom ROM too. Though nothing has changed…
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i think is normaly to run even 1 cpu. to me is working permanently 2 - 2 from big, and 4 from little and battery is ok. is normaly to bicom hot our *****es z4; u want to say is permanently hot even is in standby or blabla?
op3n said:
i think is normaly to run even 1 cpu. to me is working permanently 2 - 2 from big, and 4 from little and battery is ok. is normaly to bicom hot our *****es z4; u want to say is permanently hot even is in standby or blabla?
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Well, if that's normal, this shouldn't be an issue. Though I do wonder where's the big little concept gone.
Did it ever occur to you guys that it might be dynamic hotplugging and a specific configuration/setup is being used ?
Or is it in your case really being buggy and broken ?
You left something working in the background and monitored how the cores behaved ?
Using different apps ? (say: kernel adiutor [or kernel adiutor mod], EX Kernel Manager, CPU Z, etc.)
My situation has improved, so I'll update my situation, hopefully it'll help someone.
After updating to stock 7.1.1(without modifications), my phone got just very hot while the screen was on., consuming more than 2A.
Rolling back did solve the problem(becomes normal heat), but as for me, I chose to use lineage OS, which was great. The only drawback I'm having now is that the camera button's function isn't as versatile as the stock ROM, especially while opening the camera app from sleep state, is a bit unstable.
A great thanks for all of you guys for giving me advices.
My situation has improved, so I'll update my situation, hopefully it'll help someone.
After updating to stock 7.1.1(without modifications), my phone got just very hot while the screen was on., consuming more than 2A.
Rolling back did solve the problem(becomes normal heat), but as for me, I chose to use lineage OS, which was great. The only drawback I'm having now is that the camera button's function isn't as versatile as the stock ROM, especially while opening the camera app from sleep state, is a bit unstable.
A great thanks for all of you guys for giving me advices.

Possible GPU failure?

So recently I've been running the smurf kernel to play games like pubg with OC. But all of a sudden my note began glitching and caused graphic glitches. I thought that this might just be in game but it happens when I exit. When I exit usually the display just goes black but the digitzer underneath is still working. Any ideas on what's going on. Oh also. I thought this might be a smurf kernel glitch so I switched to notorious but it just repeats. This happens at random too . Screenshots.
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So recently I've been running the smurf kernel to play games like pubg with OC. But all of a sudden my note began glitching and caused graphic glitches. I thought that this might just be in game but it happens when I exit. When I exit usually the display just goes black but the digitzer underneath is still working. Any ideas on what's going on. Oh also. I thought this might be a smurf kernel glitch so I switched to notorious but it just repeats. This happens at random too . Screenshots.
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Does it happen in other games? Graphically glitches such as that typically means that the GPU is not capable of process the visuals at the settings requested and bottlenecks. At least when it comes to PC.
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GPU artifacts. Your phone's GPU is overheated.
It doesn't happen in other games. Also, are you sure that it's just an overheating issue than a defect?
Try reinstalling the stock OS back onto your device. There is a chance that the GPU drivers may have gotten corrupted
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It doesn't happen in other games. Also, are you sure that it's just an overheating issue than a defect?
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Most likely. The common factor is artefacts during PUBG. Since the issue doesn't occur during other intense games (if you've tried others), then PUBG is the factor causing the issue.
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Ok so an update on the situation. Switching to a different kernel doesn't appear to help at all. In fact the situation can get a little worse at times. It doesn't happen instant but can happen at random times. It's spread to other games but only if I play the game for a while (2 hours usually). Honestly don't know what to do at this point. Usually when you overheats it downclocks automatically right? So I doubt it's overheated. I am about to wipe everything off and start new. Maybe then my problem will disappear. If anyone can please give me the direct cause of this error I will be forever grateful
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Ok so an update on the situation. Switching to a different kernel doesn't appear to help at all. In fact the situation can get a little worse at times. It doesn't happen instant but can happen at random times. It's spread to other games but only if I play the game for a while (2 hours usually). Honestly don't know what to do at this point. Usually when you overheats it downclocks automatically right? So I doubt it's overheated. I am about to wipe everything off and start new. Maybe then my problem will disappear. If anyone can please give me the direct cause of this error I will be forever grateful
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I would do a full wipe, go back to latest stock firmware with Odin, and then test from there. If the problem persists, then I think it's safe to say it's hardware failure of some type, which would require repair.
Any updatess?
Yes, So I have gone back to stock and have played PUBG. The artefacts dont appear however sometimes you catch a glimpse of very minor glitching. Now I wonder whether this is due to the fact that my note has a low GPU bin of 2 out of 15 (I think). I have switched over to a new ROM and it appears that the RED flashes of death were temporary and maybe gone for now. I will report if it repeats itself.
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Yes, So I have gone back to stock and have played PUBG. The artefacts dont appear however sometimes you catch a glimpse of very minor glitching. Now I wonder whether this is due to the fact that my note has a low GPU bin of 2 out of 15 (I think). I have switched over to a new ROM and it appears that the RED flashes of death were temporary and maybe gone for now. I will report if it repeats itself.
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Thanks for the update, glad to hear things have improved! PUBG is kind of buggy overall, so those new minor glitches could possibly just be the app itself. Keep testing and see, but hopefully everything goes smoothly
Skulldron said:
Yes, So I have gone back to stock and have played PUBG. The artefacts dont appear however sometimes you catch a glimpse of very minor glitching. Now I wonder whether this is due to the fact that my note has a low GPU bin of 2 out of 15 (I think). I have switched over to a new ROM and it appears that the RED flashes of death were temporary and maybe gone for now. I will report if it repeats itself.
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https://www.redmondpie.com/pubg-mob...s-fix-lag-more-heres-how-to-configure-it-all/
Decent write up of how to fix some of PUBG glitches and lag. I haven't tried that game but could possibly help.
Ok everyone! I believe the issue is solved!. A reflash of the stock ROM appears to have fixed the glitches. Even on low battery it doesn't seem to affect the device so I'm going to put it down to corrupt gpu drivers. Thanks everyone for your help, y'all have been awesome.
Are you doing Dream UX for the galaxy tab s2. If you are, I have a SM-T813 and I am willing to test on it since you do not have one for this device and I don't expect for Samsung to release 8.0 Oreo on it.
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Question OnePlus 10 very warm when using

Hi everyone. I just got my OnePlus 10 Pro and ever since I had it it's been running very warm when using I checked a few apps and they all showed that the battery was running at 42° Celsius which is keeping the device warm basically all the time when I'm using it. is anyone else having this problem? This is really concerning for me.
I'm unable to update to the latest version of the formula that's available because OnePlus seems like they don't release full ROMs for the OnePlus 10. What's up with that?
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services...
Strange, I've thrown everything at this phone and it's never got above 34.
Not once, maybe the heatsink is a little away...
blackhawk said:
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services...
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Will give this a try and see what happens.
dladz said:
Strange, I've thrown everything at this phone and it's never got above 34.
Not once, maybe the heating is a little away...
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IDK it's crazy annoying to always have a warm device when trying to use it.
biglo said:
IDK it's crazy annoying to always have a warm device when trying to use it.
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It's burning up the battery too. I'm familiar with Samsung's and this is a common problem with them. The solution is to optimize the phone unless it's a purely firmware or hardware issue.
Turn off global power management.
Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis. Either by changing settings or disabling/uninstalling them or by using work arounds.
Keep trash social media apps like FB, WhatsApp, etc off the phone. Cloud storage tend to be a battery sucker, one reason I use SD cards instead.
Try using factory loaded app versions, update one at a time if at all and see what results.
Once you get it optimized I would avoid app and especially firmware updates/upgrades. These can and do break things. In your case a firmware update may correct issues on your variant so consider wisely and don't update blindly.
Anything from Pie up is relatively secure in actual use... useless you do something stupid. Security even using Pie simply isn't an issue. Updates have cost me far more time then any malware to fix. In the last 2 years no malware repairs or factory resets on this stock N10+ running on Pie.
Mine get extreme warm too, specially when its charging.
I've also noticed some heat when Warp Charging!

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