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Help, Is the Note right for me?

Eh!
I'm considering buying this phone (uh...tablet?) but there are somethings that kinda get me besides the price.
The first thing that I want to know from the owners of a SGNote, how long does the battery life last for you. I'm a heavy user on my smartphones (My Samsung Focus can't keep up.) and most of the times I'm no where near an outlet. Also, External batteries any good?
Second thing, Do most ROMs support the S-Pen? I was thinking of rooting it and putting ICS on the beast, but I'm scared that the S-Pen won't function correctly after.
Lastly, Heavy Duty Cases? I'm rough on my phones.

Hi there!!
Would not be able to answer all of your questions, however will pitch in for few.
Battery backup?
As you already know it basically depends on the usage of the phone, wifi/3g always on with bluetooth and other connections heavy screen on time 3d games will dry out the juice quicker,
My experience
Bluetooth on for 5 to 6 hrs 3g full day, good screen on time... Lasts me a day and a half!!
This is with franco kernel.
Hard case availability??
Right place to look at is the accessory thread for note... Loads of reviews for the cases and screenguards out there... And it seems otterbox will be comming out with a cover for note soon... Some petitions as well going out there!!
S pen support??
All the roms support s pen and as you want to install ics, lemme tell you that its even better on ics rom,. When i say better I mean more responsive! Soon in the official launch of the ics by samsung we are promised premium suite ie a bunch of applications developed by samsung keeping s pen in mind!!
In my opinion its a great device and you should definitely go for it!!
If it helped click thanks
SHOT from my LOADED GT-N7000!!

S-pen is functional in the ICS ROM I'm using (Stunner). Samsung's apps don't work but there are plenty of apps that support the pen. Quill even supports the pressure sensitivity.
With heavy usage I get about 6 hours out of a battery. Normal usage, wouldn't know, it hasn't run out yet in that case. I would estimate 15 hours. The screen is a huge power hog

pboesboes said:
The screen is a huge power hog
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That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.

WereCatf said:
That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there.
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I strongly second this.

WereCatf said:
That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.
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It's on top of my battery stats list with 41% of sucked power. That's with a lot of screen time though.

I think Note is a great deal for any one who wants a phone to be more than just a phone !!!!

Note is defintely one of the best phone made.
Battery last for very long, 10 hours of heavy usage with 3.5 hours screen time on.
Size? Definately not a problem, will be big at first, and u will get used to it very fast, because its amazing experince browsing, watching vids, playing games on the phone. other phones will look like a toy to u soon.
So far most of the rom maintain s pen functionality. There are so many rom to choose from, just look for the one with the s pen support.
Why would the dev create a rom for gnote that dont support s pen in the first place when the s pen is one of the best things on note.
Good luck mate.

wait.... and buy galaxy s III

no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3

my SGN runs slightly more than 12hrs...
minimun running services, all black non live wallpaper and 0% screen brightness.
and i always have the usb cable with me just in case my SNG needs an urgent charge along the way in the office.

MrDSL said:
no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3
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I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize

avetny said:
I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize
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yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.

I have been using the Note for four months now and it is easily the best device I have used over the years. Here's what I think you should consider.
You shouldn't buy the note:
1. If you have really small hands, I mean REALLY small!
2. You hate using your phone with both hands (you need to most of the time)
3. If you hate the weight (but frankly, its light for it's size)
Why you should buy the note:
1. Brilliant display
I have seen people complain about the Pentile Matrix but you can't spot any differences. The display is brilliant. If you notch up the brightness to full and play a 1080p video, you will know what I mean. The big size also means that the Note is a better. Reading is amazing on it, literally. You can zoom in and the text is still super clear. There are a lot more stuff to it too. You will see when you buy it.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K353JnA5QKg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=10&feature=plcp
2. Battery
The 2500 mAH battery is kickass. It last thourgh a full day of heavy use or two days of low to moderate use. If one 2500mAh battery aint enough, you can get more from eBay. I bought a three battery pack with an external charger for $14 and they are doing pretty well.
Listing link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-2500mAh...100845?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256f009bed
It is a bit disappointing when you use your data plan a lot. But hey, you cannot have everything.
3. XDA Support
I have seen highly active forums before when I was using the HTC HD2 and the Desire HD. I must say that the Note devs and forums are brilliant. People like Chainfire, Chris X and eybee1970 are all coming up with new stuff. There are at least 5 stable ICS ROMs now. This is something you cannot get with any other phone.
4. Games
I have tried playing big and small games on the Note and they all look great. Fun games like Cut the Rope, Angry Birds etc are brilliant as usual and the bigger display just makes it better. HD games like Modern Combat 3, Shadowgun and Dead Space are in a league of their own. But somehow, I never really ended up playing big size games much.
5. GPS
Take my word. GPS is Amazing. I get locked on to 5m within a minute sometimes and the chip is so fast. It can be your ideal navigator.
GPS Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arOYNNux_mg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=7&feature=plcp
6. Connectivity
If you have been around the Note threads for a while now, you would have seen a guy named NZTechFreak post a connectivity demo of the Note. If the above features didn't seal it for you, that should. It describes how you can put the different connectivity features of the Note and make it function like other devices.
Here's the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=11&feature=plcp
For what I know, the Note is the best of the following:
1. A high-end Android phone with all features
2. A very good camera
3. A tablet like device that fits into your pocket and weighs reasonably less.
4. A gaming console wherein you can emulate all classic games, connect to a HDTV via MHL, use a bluetooth joystick and play.
5. A HD Media Play, wherein you use your USB OTG to connect to a 1TB HDD or a 2GB pendrive to see content on the go. You can switch with MHL and use with your TV.
6. A portable gaming console, which lets you play some of the best games out there on the go.
7. A great eBook Reader, that will easily last for several hours even if you continuously. The Super AMOLED makes the experience super cool.
8. A Internet device, using which you can view webpages the way they are meant to be.
9. Run Ubuntu on it and use it as a PC, with all features.
There are probably more cool stuff I can say, but you get the point
I hope I was convincing enough
Credit to NZTechFreak for making so many cool and useful videos about the Note

MrDSL said:
yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.
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True !! this is only 1 thing I will miss !

Working 6 months with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (910F), 5 Years with Samsung

Working 6 months with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (910F), 5 Years with Samsung
I am not a regular user / buyer. I have many smartphones and when I like a brand, i am buying everything i can from the same brand.
Until 5 years ago, I was working only with HTC. I bought 8 HTC smartphones.
And then I discovered Samsung.
From then, I bought 10 Samsung smartphones, 3 Samsung Smart TVs and more.
But my passion to Samsung started to crack, and all because of my Note 4 issues.
When I received the Note 4, it was amazing - excellent battery life, everything worked perfect.
And then came updates...
After the first update, the Note 4 started to have bluetooth issues - I need to make restart twice a day in order to work with my bluetooth headsets (even with Samsung headsets).
With more updates, the battery life dropped dramatically. After the Lollipop update, the battery is dropping 3-5% per hour, without using it. Android OS and bluetooth dropped the most.
Dont tell me to make hard reset - I made it twice.
Its time to leave Samsung and work with a company that can give me what Samsung gave me until two years ago.
Samsung will need to convince me that it improved before I will return.

using bluetooth everyday with my car audio, and bluetooth headset never had any problem.
battery life never changed for me with any update. 6 hours sot generally.

maybe the Exynos is better.

The exynos is not any better, I had it for nearly a month, but returned it yesterday. Just like the op, I became a fan of samsung since I bought the S3 because of the removeable back and exchangeable battery, memory card support, and of course the tons of roms here on XDA. I was a HTC user (Desire and Desire HD). Now Samsung seems to be going that route, so it is time for me to look for alternatives, but can't find one I like at the moment. Worse comes to worse when there is no manufacturer making removable battery and sd card support, I will not buy samsung. I would rather but a NEXUS phone which will have updates from google. Heck my dauthers' 3 year old Nexus 7 toys are still running 5.1.1 without me doing anything.

I understand what you're saying. I have the Note 4 now, before that a few Nokias, an LG G3, Sony Xperia Z2, and before that, the Note 2 (best phone I had owned). I'm very disappointed in Samsung's issues. If Samsung doesn't fix this issue before I get a new phone in a few months probably, I'll ditch Samsung for good. Battery life is horrible. Camera is good in AWESOME lighting conditions, and in EVERY OTHER condition, it's SOOO grainy and terrible! Focusing isn't good. My 2013 Nokia 1520 took MUCH better pictures than this Note 4, except in good lighting. Also, 4 different roms (all official) and I still have that STUPID multitasking button delay. My Samsung tablet from 2 years ago is MUCH faster at bringing up the multitasking screen! 2GB ram and SD800 processor w/ same resolution!
I really hate to say it, but I am very disappointed in all the money I spent in this phone. I should have returned it when I had the chance ... Xperia Z3, or Z4 now... LG G4... Nexus 6. I know EVERY device has its issues, but I always need 2 things: Battery life and good camera performance. From ALL the reviews, the Note 4 had these... I really can't trust reviewers on youtube... I guess they must praise the Samsung devices or else they won't get review units before release... Meh....
I really hope Samsung can fix these issues....
/rant off.

Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.

MDaveUK said:
Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.
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No, even before updates ruined it, it was buggy from the get go. For example, I had the GPS tag problem right out of the box. When trying to take a picture, sometimes it wouldn't lock on to the GPS coordinates in time. Other phones will continue to try to find the GPS lock and then add it to the image a few seconds after the image is taken, but not the Note 4! That was a really big issue that was fixed with the update to Lollipop, but it brought along with it a whole slew of other issues. So no, updates didn't ruin it, updates fixed some things and broke others.

Returning back is not always smooth.
Any way - some of the updates are security updates so its a problematic not to update.

Yeah, I guess that will be my first and last samsung phone. Some months back I was unsure to get the nexus 6 or samsung note 4, because I wanted a bigger phone. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6...
Problem was not the hardware, that is really high quality and everything works like it should. Also batterie is fine, in most cases it was something else that kept the phone from sleeping, like google+.
Really awesome is the QI Case from samsung, so I can load wireless and it's protected (great quality!). Also the small window with infos
But the downside is the software and the efuse. I had many phones in my hands till now (it in our company) from mid/high end android, apple, tablets etc.
I NEVER had a software on a phone that pissed me off like samsung did. Compared to my nexus 4 I had before, the performance was abysmal. I knew TW was known to be slow, but I mean the cpu is fast as hell, 3 GB RAM etc. - that should count for something right? There is so much crap preinstalled and badly coded, it hurts.
Never wanted to root my phone, but I really needed to do it. With a custom mod and kernel it was a bit faster, also lolipop was better then 4.4.4 in subjective speed. But when I installed CM on the phone, I saw for the first time WHAT this piece of fine hardware can actually do. I also installed the same apps and no difference in speed. It was nice and fast like my nexus 4. Too bad I had to kick CM because of the bugs still around at that time. So it really is the software, nothing else.
My next phone will be a nexus again or - if good - something from LG, Sony or a Google play edition. If I could I would change it right now for a lg g4 or a nexus 6.
If samsung want's to be a real opponent to apple, they have to keep the changes to android at the lowest possible (like CM) and everything else as app. That would fasten updates by a wide margin. Also a business and private user brand with and without knox. And some kind of software selection system, that disables services or deinstalls them, if not needed like you won't need samsung link without a samsung tv.

Hey Note Owners.. talk me out of buying

I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!

The note 5 will work well for most of your needs. But I'm not sure about custom roms though. I'm not sure about the future but right now, development is slow. There is one custom rom at the moment it looks like for sprint. Something like the moto x or the next nexus may be better if development is important to you since they should work across all carriers. The exynos processor and multiple carrier versions will hurt development. But camera and battery life have been amazing (for me at least, some may disagree).
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The new z5 premium also looks nice (will it work on Sprint?)
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I won't talk you out of buying a Note 5, simply because this is the best phone I have ever owned.
The camera, the hardware, the speed, the customization, the sound coming through headphones, the call quality, the battery life, and dat S PEN! Well worth my upgrade and money.
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The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.

zags14 said:
I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!
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Get a note 4..... If you can find one

dikidera said:
The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.
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That issue is 100% user error. I'm not worried about that
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Get a note 4..... If you can find one
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As I said, I want to take advantage of my upgrade discount so I can't get a note 4. I could find one, but I would be paying 400$+ as opposed to the 250$ i can get the note5 from Sprint for.

oy yes TW, lag and very few custom roms.

My old phone was also a Galaxy S4. I used my upgrade to get the Note 5 and couldn't be happier. To be honest on Sprint the Note 5 is probably the best phone you can get

well...something to consider before buying..the AT&T and verizon variants come with locked bootloaders...

if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.

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if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.
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There is actually a feature on the device that lets you slide a keyboard to the side for smaller hands. They were thinking of you and people who text and drive

I had it all...all s series and note series and i was a litle sceptic about removing sd and battery but now I have note 5 in my hands and I have to say it is the BEST phone I had and I had it all and I am from EUROPE

I swore myself off TouchWiz after I owned my S4, it was my least favorite android phone. But after I had a really bad experience with the LG G4, I returned it and swapped it for a Note 5. Absolutely loving this phone. Never have had a phone this snappy even after loading it up with all my apps etc. I always notice that out of the box phones are great, and invariably after a week of use they bog down... Not this thing. Software is way toned down as far as TouchWiz is concerned. The S Pen is a pretty great touch. After having it, I realize if you're going to have a large device, might as well maximize functionality and have a stylus and some decent software to go along with it. I give this phone a solid 9/10, 9 because of the no expandable memory but really is a moot point with cloud storage being so good these days, and free. Also, if you're looking to flash custom stuff, consider that Knox will trip and you'll lose out on Samsung pay and other features requiring intact security flag. Definitely cruise over to the Note 5 sprint development page to see what's available before making a jump.
Really I don't think you can go wrong with this device. It's very well done, and has a very premium feel for a device, a first for Samsung... Finally I feel like I'm getting what I pay for

Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.

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Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.
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I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.

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I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.
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I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.

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I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.
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Bro, something is wrong. It's either verizon royally screwed something up in their software or you have a defective phone. No joke.
My Note 5 sips battery and all I did was disable all the AT&T bloatware, I didn't even use that app. I am consistently getting 20-25 hours off the charger and 5-8 hours of screen on time. I'm not over exaggerating either.
Losing 75% in 3 hours of not doing much is definitely a problem. I would see if other verizon users are experiencing the same. If not, I would exchange it for a new one unless you are already hell bent on getting the iPhone.
Good luck!

I purchased the Package Disabler Pro app a few hours ago, I'll let you know how it goes on my end. Im on a Verizon Note 5

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Hahaha damn got caught.

Anybody moving on to other flagship?

So I think this is it, I'm getting annoyed with TW once again ?. All those little lags, jitters, disabling DVFS helps but not that much, whatever.
So the obvious question, has any one of you moved to any flagship phone from Note 4, which was worth it? AOSP based mostly I was thinking anyway. I am ready to give up on display and screen size and probably even camera LOL, (what else are there anyway?) and was thinking about HTC 10, what do you think, worth it?
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Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
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I don't find touchwiz much annoying while weighing it's features against the small lags. I got used to multi-windows & Shealth stuff. I don't experience much lags in marshmallow custom rom with s7 Ports(Dr.Ketan's rom & Nameless rom). If my pocket allows I will go for Note 7 later this year

im sell my htc M9Plus and buy note 4, after rooting this phone is aBeast

Yes, I am moving to Mi Max 128GB.. like MIUI ROM.

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Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
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LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?

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LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?
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I never faced any problems when I had installed it. But I always tried the build from here:
https://www.cmxlog.com/12.1/trltexx/
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I agree with you..Well too many options available new flagships came out the new moto z and one plus 3 but i guess you better wait for the note 6 aka note 7 coming out in august..
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I've not had any major problems with my N910C after updating to Marshmallow. I've experienced the odd lag here and there but works great 98% of the time.

If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!

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If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...

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Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...
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That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!

I move to ios and its great. still have the note 4 cause of the spen. Waiting for note 7 and see if it is worth it. If not maybe trying to get the win 10 phone.

Waiting for note 6(7), will buy on release if it has sd slot, don't care about removable battery at all.

The importance of having a removable battery is the power capacity of the battery itself so if you do get 4000mah with the note 7 why do you need a removable battery!! Indeed it's an option but not quite necessary..
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Nope, staying and waitin for Note 7. What I have learnt is that with every brand there will be somethings I don't like and Samsung has the least of those, so I am happy with Galaxy Note range for the next 2years or so.
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Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...

Awaiting for note7!!!!
N-910F

ithehappy said:
Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...
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The Notes have one killer feature, and one thing only, the Spen. If you can do without it, then there are plenty of other options out there. If you can't do without it, then you have no option.

Melissakis said:
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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You can easily get a brand new one at a very reasonable price. In fact the price has actually dropped £100 more at the online retailer where I purchased mine from last year!
Melissakis said:
That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!
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That is the main reason why I got the Note 4 last year! Instead of getting the SGS6 or the Note 5. As I like having the ability to replace the battery myself without having to open up the whole phone or take it into a store to get it replaced. As we all know that the first thing to start to degrade in any mobile device is the battery. So having the ability to replace it easily ourselves is a good thing. Shame that all android OEMs are have removed this feature from their device's designs.

Hard to find an upgrade phone!

UPDATE! Unfortunately my note 4 took a fall and landed on a jagged rock (serves me right for holding it in my mouth using the flashlight) - Anyway, I ended up finding a (like new) LG V20 for $300 USD (It's big but I had to make a sacrifice) It was very hard to decide over the mate 9, oneplus 3t and the V20. Because I got it at a reasonably low price it won't be much of a loss at resale if I decide on something else, especially as something is always right around the corner.
UPDATE COMPARISON BETWEEN LG V20 AND NOTE 4
Impressions about the LG V20 after 2 weeks in comparison to the Note 4.
What is better?
Performance is snappier on the V20 (for obvious reasons)
The screen looks more detailed and sharper (even though they both have the same resolution I think the LCD tech is better in this instance IMO)
The device is easier to hold (I really didn't think a small reduction in width could be so noticeable)
The second display is very useful for launching recent apps and using it to launch flashlight while the screen is off is very handy
Battery life is very similar (I average 5 hours of SOT over 24 hour period) - This is a tie but considering people would constantly rant about poor battery life I had to mention it
Although I don't use headphones often you really can tell the difference when using high level cups
The cameras are much better for enthusiasts. You also have a lot of options that are usually only seen in actual cameras (focus peaking, advanced manual modes etc)
What is not?
Loudspeaker and earpiece are deeper but sound less detailed and clear (even after removing the speaker grille from the chin). If you rely heavily on listening to podcasts or anything else where plain vocals are concerned than this will be a bit of an adjustment for you
There are so many different model variants that development is far less than I originally read in to (almost to the point where I am prepared to look for another phone)
I really do miss having physical keys (I am getting used to it, though)
Overall I am not disappointed in the actual device or it's capabilities in comparison to the Note 4. I could definitely forgive the little things I don't like if it had a stronger community. I will see how it goes over the next few months
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I'm really struggling to replace my note 4. Don't get me wrong, you can get better handsets, but not a big enough leap for me to make the switch. For example I will list the features that I require in a list from most important to least important features.
1. Community/company development
2. Screen size to body ratio (NON CURVED) (Critical. I want a smaller phone but with still at least a 5.5" display)
3. Capacitive/Physical buttons. (Heavily preferred but open minded to change if everything else is perfect)
4. Large removable battery (Open minded to change)
5. Micro SD and IR Blaster (These aren't deal breakers)
Obviously the rest of the phone would need to have higher internal specs etc, else it wouldn't be an upgrade!
The closest i can find is the
Oneplus 3T (But it unfortunately is a similar size with smaller screen)
LG V20 (Quite bigger than Note 4)
Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus (Little bit taller than Note 4 and unsure about future dev)
Mi Mix (Much bigger and poor camera but this type of design really caught my eye)
Without reducing screen size it's really hard to find anything that ticks every box by a large enough margin to make it feel worth it to me. What are your thoughts? Do you have any advice or do you feel the same way?

I'm kind of in the same boat. I think I'm gonna go with the One Plus 3T, I like how the community looks and One Plus also look like a decent company. Another Samsung isn't an option for me as this will be my last.

My Note 4 has developed the lag, freeze and reboot issue that many have reported, so it's either stick with the workaround of the partial wakelock which hammers the battery life or get a new phone (struggling to find replacement mobo's here in the UK). My last 3 phones have been Samsung and all were bought used but this is the first that's developed a major problem.
So I'm with you guys in wondering what to go for. Something around 5.5 inches with an sd slot a removable battery and a solid camera are my main concerns.
Ideally I'd like a removable battery as it's amazing when I'm travelling (and I travel a lot). What would be the best alternative_A powerbank with quickcharge 2.0?

woldranger said:
My Note 4 has developed the lag, freeze and reboot issue that many have reported, so it's either stick with the workaround of the partial wakelock which hammers the battery life or get a new phone (struggling to find replacement mobo's here in the UK). My last 3 phones have been Samsung and all were bought used but this is the first that's developed a major problem.
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unexpected reboots/shutdowns can be due to degraded/dying battery,
freezes/lags (tried to flash from 0?) due to the EMMC is about to fail.
i'm in the same boat, but i want at least:
a 6-6.2 inch screen with minimum to no bezels,
635 CPU with 6GB (to be a substantial upgrade)
removable battery.
our note 4 fits 6.4 inch bezelless display (sacrificing home button), so it's perfectly viable.
i guess, we should wait 3 more months till S8 and other options will come out, that promise to be bezelless. Xiaomi Mi Mix did the job, now everybody wants such a phone. At the moment, i see no options to buy either.

lisbon2004 said:
unexpected reboots/shutdowns can be due to degraded/dying battery,
freezes/lags (tried to flash from 0?) due to the EMMC is about to fail.
i'm in the same boat, but i want at least:
a 6-6.2 inch screen with minimum to no bezels,
635 CPU with 6GB (to be a substantial upgrade)
removable battery.
our note 4 fits 6.4 inch bezelless display (sacrificing home button), so it's perfectly viable.
i guess, we should wait 3 more months till S8 and other options will come out, that promise to be bezelless. Xiaomi Mi Mix did the job, now everybody wants such a phone. At the moment, i see no options to buy either.
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I've got 3 different batteries including an Anker one that's only a couple of months old so I dont think it can be that.
What did you mean, flash from 0?

I'm using this Note 7 rom based on aurora 3.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note7-port-n910f-standm-aurora-base-t3500338/page1
Before I installed it, I flashed the latest stock rom with odin to get updated base and modems (sammobile) for 910F version.
After that Flashed twrp, did three consecutive wipes in twrp (incl data to clean internal memory) and then flashed the note 7 rom.
Did take a very long time to boot, but that's normal.
If roms don't boot, it's probably because of the bootloader or base not compatible with rom.
Used a couple of kernels, and the best one so far is the latest Xceed test build (N910FG-MM-Test-bld4k.zip) and set it on conservative for food battery.
Absolutely love the rom, no problems at all for me. Makes the note 4 look up to date again.

sebas_tytn2 said:
I'm using this Note 7 rom based on aurora 3.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note7-port-n910f-standm-aurora-base-t3500338/page1
Before I installed it, I flashed the latest stock rom with odin to get updated base and modems (sammobile) for 910F version.
After that Flashed twrp, did three consecutive wipes in twrp (incl data to clean internal memory) and then flashed the note 7 rom.
Did take a very long time to boot, but that's normal.
If roms don't boot, it's probably because of the bootloader or base not compatible with rom.
Used a couple of kernels, and the best one so far is the latest Xceed test build (N910FG-MM-Test-bld4k.zip) and set it on conservative for food battery.
Absolutely love the rom, no problems at all for me. Makes the note 4 look up to date again.
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I'm sorry, but I'm a tad confused as to how this relates to the "new phone" in this topic. If it's how you fixed the Lag/restart debacle then I'm in your debt....

woldranger said:
I'm sorry, but I'm a tad confused as to how this relates to the "new phone" in this topic. If it's how you fixed the Lag/restart debacle then I'm in your debt....
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Ah I posted in the wrong thread

Welcome on board. Have the same problem. My contract ends now and I've completely no idea where to go now. List of phones which I could get isn't too great. Huawei P9, Samsung S7, HTC 10 or Sony X. Naah. In the end I will probably just buy something but still it's hard to find for me a decent replacement for Note 4. Thought about Pixel but a quick look at the price tag and bam we are far,far away.
On another hand, LG looks interesting. G5 or V20. Especially the G5 with add-ons capability, but I'm not sure would it be an upgrade or just simple change.

woldranger said:
I've got 3 different batteries including an Anker one that's only a couple of months old so I dont think it can be that.
What did you mean, flash from 0?
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from scratch, with complete full wipes before/after, and using a service ROM (with everything included).

Yoshiktk said:
Welcome on board. Have the same problem. My contract ends now and I've completely no idea where to go now. List of phones which I could get isn't too great. Huawei P9, Samsung S7, HTC 10 or Sony X. Naah. In the end I will probably just buy something but still it's hard to find for me a decent replacement for Note 4. Thought about Pixel but a quick look at the price tag and bam we are far,far away.
On another hand, LG looks interesting. G5 or V20. Especially the G5 with add-ons capability, but I'm not sure would it be an upgrade or just simple change.
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That's a tough choice between those handsets!

uppon2 said:
That's a tough choice between those handsets!
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I did spend like whole Sunday looking at different phones, Youtube vids, reviews etc. but still don't see anything claiming the top spot to replace Note. In the end I did just order new battery and Ill just wait till 2017 to see what will show up.

A perfect replacement for a Note 4 is a Note 4S, better spec with a decent fingerprint scanner, LOL if only Samsung thought of that. You guys should wait till after CES 2017, it's in February (CMIIW) there should be new phones out afterwards. The only worthy replacement thus far is either the S7 Edge or V20 IMHO.

This rumoured smaller Mi mix looks interesting. Next year will be the year they perfect screen to body ratio! http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix_nano-8439.php

uchihakurtz said:
A perfect replacement for a Note 4 is a Note 4S, better spec with a decent fingerprint scanner, LOL if only Samsung thought of that. You guys should wait till after CES 2017, it's in February (CMIIW) there should be new phones out afterwards. The only worthy replacement thus far is either the S7 Edge or V20 IMHO.
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Mobile World Congress in February is another one to watch for

uppon2 said:
Mobile World Congress in February is another one to watch for
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Sweet mother of God, MWC is actually the one on February (27 - 2 Mar) and CES is on the 5 - 8 of January. Wow gotta save up some cash for mid March.

Yoshiktk said:
Welcome on board. Have the same problem. My contract ends now and I've completely no idea where to go now. List of phones which I could get isn't too great. Huawei P9, Samsung S7, HTC 10 or Sony X. Naah. In the end I will probably just buy something but still it's hard to find for me a decent replacement for Note 4. Thought about Pixel but a quick look at the price tag and bam we are far,far away.
On another hand, LG looks interesting. G5 or V20. Especially the G5 with add-ons capability, but I'm not sure would it be an upgrade or just simple change.
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Thought about that this morning...being a huge LG fan in the past, I have to say I'm quite disappointed with the G5.
V20 is a beast I've heard but don't know if the G5 would be that big a leap from your Note 4.
I'd probably say the Oneplus 3T or hold out for S8 Edge
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Yoshiktk said:
I did spend like whole Sunday looking at different phones, Youtube vids, reviews etc. but still don't see anything claiming the top spot to replace Note. In the end I did just order new battery and Ill just wait till 2017 to see what will show up.
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Doing the exact same thing lol
I guess that's a great problem to have...Samsung overbuilt the Note 4 in 2014....now its hard to find a replacement lol

Thats true. For me personally Note 4 is so well made and tailored that I would be happy to stay with it forever. Ticks all the boxes, and thats the problem for me.
Lg G5 is nice but lacks something to convince to change. V20 on another hand is tempting. I really like the idea with second wide angle lens. If nothing jumps till march I will give Lg a go.

Yoshiktk said:
Thats true. For me personally Note 4 is so well made and tailored that I would be happy to stay with it forever. Ticks all the boxes, and thats the problem for me.
Lg G5 is nice but lacks something to convince to change. V20 on another hand is tempting. I really like the idea with second wide angle lens. If nothing jumps till march I will give Lg a go.
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don't forget about the EMMC time bomb, and it's low performance (read/write speed).
also, it could be time to upgrade to a faster, more efficient chipset with a modem of a higher LTE Category, and more bands.

lisbon2004 said:
don't forget about the EMMC time bomb, and it's low performance (read/write speed).
also, it could be time to upgrade to a faster, more efficient chipset with a modem of a higher LTE Category, and more bands.
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Mine just started showing the EMMC issue's. No luck at the end of year. The only option for me is S7. The best choice from what I can get from my provider, not much too choose from.