Filming - What resolution & settings? How-to Widescreen/Cinema? - Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
I recently bought an DJI Mobile 3 (Gimbal) and looking to do some Widescreen shooting.
1) I'm supposed to present the film at a 1080 screen, is there any reason to shoot at an higher resolution? I'm thinking to film in 1080p @ 60 fps. Is this optimal?
2) What postprocessing app or/and film-app can I use to get the Widescreen/Cinema view?
Thanks for helping a novice out. I'm making a small commercial for my small company.

1) Unless you want to view it in a theater (which has a standard resolution of 8K) or a quarter of it (for 4K), nope. A 1080p footage will still look good enough at 100-120" provided you watch it from enough distance (3 meters or so). For the framerate, 60fps is the netflix standard, but cinematic movies all use 24fps (very few does 48fps). You can always reencode faster framerate to a slower one, just like you can reencode 4K into 1080p. 30fps tend to have better details, though, so if you after cinematic movie, record in 30fps instead.
2) Instead of postprocessing, get a quality anamorphic lens to get 21:9 aspect ratio. Apexel, Ulanzi, Moment, all have good one.
Little tip: Since you have a gimbal, turn off EIS to get wider view.

leledumbo said:
1) Unless you want to view it in a theater (which has a standard resolution of 8K) or a quarter of it (for 4K), nope. A 1080p footage will still look good enough at 100-120" provided you watch it from enough distance (3 meters or so). For the framerate, 60fps is the netflix standard, but cinematic movies all use 24fps (very few does 48fps). You can always reencode faster framerate to a slower one, just like you can reencode 4K into 1080p. 30fps tend to have better details, though, so if you after cinematic movie, record in 30fps instead.
2) Instead of postprocessing, get a quality anamorphic lens to get 21:9 aspect ratio. Apexel, Ulanzi, Moment, all have good one.
Little tip: Since you have a gimbal, turn off EIS to get wider view.
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Great advice - bless you! Noted.
The Anamorphic Lens from Ulanzi is coming my way in the mail, I'm excited to try it out with the Gimbal.
Any advice on apps or WIN10 software to either shoot in or/and do some amature postprocessing? Should I shoot in the Mi 9 stock app with the Ulanzi on?
Sorry for all the Q's. Totally understand if you can't reply them all.

workdrojd said:
Any advice on apps or WIN10 software to either shoot in or/and do some amature postprocessing?
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No idea for that platform, my computer OS is Linux.
workdrojd said:
Should I shoot in the Mi 9 stock app with the Ulanzi on?
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You can, but if you want more finer controls (like smooth zooming by using a slider or the ability to use external mic unless you have direct USB-C mic), use Open Camera.

workdrojd said:
Hi guys,
I recently bought an DJI Mobile 3 (Gimbal) and looking to do some Widescreen shooting.
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Hi man, got a question for you:
How do you feel using the DJI Mobile 3? I've been thinking buying one for a while now. Is it worth the money? Also, since Mi9 does not have OIS and only have EIS (which in my opinion is a bit trashy) does it stabilize well also when you turn off EIS on the phone?

workdrojd said:
Great advice - bless you! Noted.
The Anamorphic Lens from Ulanzi is coming my way in the mail, I'm excited to try it out with the Gimbal.
Any advice on apps or WIN10 software to either shoot in or/and do some amature postprocessing? Should I shoot in the Mi 9 stock app with the Ulanzi on?
Sorry for all the Q's. Totally understand if you can't reply them all.
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movavi is quite a basic program, but Id suggest going the premiere pro route. Also, if you want the best of the best recording app, buy (or download a cracked apk) filmic pro.

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30fps Video Record?

Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
buy a video camera?
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buy a video camera?
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
hypersonicx said:
People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?

Slowmo (higher FPS) video capture app?

Hi fellas,
I stumled upon an app for TimeLapse (capturing video in extremely low fps) and made me think of my old Samsung INNOV8 that could capture video with up to 120fps (lower resolution of course). Considering it was build around TIOMAP 2430 (330mhz ARM) and given what we have packing, i'm pretty sure our junk is more than capable of slowmo video in adequate resolutions, but I couldn't find an app for that.
Any thoughts/ideas?
Brilliant idea!
I'd also like an app that could do this and would donate/pay for it if it worked well at a decent resolution.
Flacid Monkey said:
Brilliant idea!
I'd also like an app that could do this and would donate/pay for it if it worked well at a decent resolution.
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I second this, It would be nice little feature to have as a way to record cool rain stuff etc. I am sure its going to be limited by the cmos sensor, or whatever type of sensor the DHD uses for its camera.
+1..........
yep, i think a lot of folks would pay good money for a decent app. any devs up to the task? I heard the Moto Droid in the states has someth of a slowmo recorder. maybe a port?

[GUIDE/DISCUSSION] [2K] [4K*] [50+ MBPS] Video recording on the Huawei P9 Lite.

This phone continues to amaze me. After discovering RAW still capture, now this.
Apparently the Huawei P9 Lite can record 2K and 4K* video. And to top that with a big juicy cherry, you can get bitrates as high as 70MBS, hovering around a 50MBPS constant. AT 2K resolution. This is quite impressive for a phone camera, I'm talking even flagship level.
I'm not even joking.
I mean why not?! Camera API2 supports 4K, the camera sensor supports 4K, I'm not entirely sure about the SoC, but the Kirin 650 is proving to be one of the better, albeit very comfortably mid-range, chips Huawei has produced.
Everyone can try this on their devices, completely hassle-free, safe, wihtout any mods. You do have to buy an app from the Play Store. It's about $13 and that's that. You install the app and choose your desired resolution in the app settings.
The app is called. FiLMiC Pro
A few remarks:
Be sure to have Crop source to overlay turned OFF when filming 2K, or 4K.
4K is TERRIBLE! It's really quite unusable. I've only been able to get around 5-8 FPS video at 4K. Choppy, lots of lost frames.
2K is however quite usable. Clean video, no missed frames, no artefacting.
I've only just found out this works, very accidentally and with a a lot of surprise and enthusiasm. I need to do a lot more test shots before I can form a solid opinion over the gains and benefits. For now I'm really very hyped and not sure if the difference I see is just placebo or not.
What's certain is that this means a lot for whoever's doing any serious filming with the Huawei P9 Lite. Higher bitrates, the ability to downscale 2K to 1080 for extra *MAGIC*... I can't wait to go out shooting video in real-case scenarios and do more testing on the stability and reliability of shooting at these resolutions.
I'd love for more of you to try this and shoot some video so we can compare findings and share opinions.
*) Almost
Also turns out this is my 1001st post on XDA. Yay.
Look at this screenshot.
And then try it yourself.
P10 lite can record 4k using snap camera
Is there a way to do it for free?
aburezk said:
P10 lite can record 4k using snap camera
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How? There is only 1080 maximum resolution... as far as I can see.
vozilo said:
Is there a way to do it for free?
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Apparently Open Camera. I'm not convinced though.
zgomot said:
How? There is only 1080 maximum resolution... as far as I can see.
Apparently Open Camera. I'm not convinced though.
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P10 lite support api2 if you enable it you can record 4k using snapcamera
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P10 lite support api2 if you enable it you can record 4k using snapcamera
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We're talking about the P9Lite here, not the P10Lite.
With the P9Lite, even with Camera2API enabled, the maximum resolution is still 1080.
zgomot said:
We're talking about the P9Lite here, not the P10Lite.
With the P9Lite, even with Camera2API enabled, the maximum resolution is still 1080.
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I know it doesn't show 4k but you can force it
aburezk said:
I know it doesn't show 4k but you can force it
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I tried and it still only does 1080p.

stabilzation in 1080 60 fps

Hi, has stabilization for 1080p 60 fps video been added or at least improved in latest updates. Who can confirm this ????
Never come OIS on 60 fps maybe!!! maybe eis possibble.but yet no
Saw this sample on youtube
It shows a well stabilized 60fps FHD video from the p20 pro.
Can anyone (having the latest soft update) test 60 fps FHD video Stabilization to figure out that
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Saw this sample on youtube
It shows a well stabilized 60fps FHD video from the p20 pro.
Can anyone (having the latest soft update) test 60 fps FHD video Stabilization to figure out that
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Bare in mind that YouTube stabilizes videos automatically.
dladz said:
Bare in mind that YouTube stabilizes videos automatically.
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In that case we would never notice unstabilized p20 pro videos from youtube posted videos
ketman5001 said:
In that case we would never notice unstabilized p20 pro videos from youtube posted videos
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Well you can see some ghosting but it does a decent job
Google photos can also stabilise videos.
But you just can't beat OIS
dladz said:
Well you can see some ghosting but it does a decent job
Google photos can also stabilise videos.
But you just can't beat OIS
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That s true. Huawei should at least implement EIS gyroscope based
ketman5001 said:
That s true. Huawei should at least implement EIS gyroscope based
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They can add a form of EIS but it'll never be brilliant, it's one of the reasons I wanted a new phone, the OnePlus 5 only had EIS, it's just not good enough.
With the pro though, 800 quid and no OIS throughout? Terrible to be honest.
Anyone has a credible explanation as to why OIS is not present at 1080 60? I can understand it not being available in higher resolutions but really at 1080 60, on a flagship with is marketed as (and by many agreed to be) the best camera phone of the market it's just not acceptable. Found out while waiting for my order to ship and am pretty pi$$ed.
Can we at least hope it will be added with a sw update in the future or it's not possible technically? Is the P20Pro sensor's OIS somehow bound to the 30fps?
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Anyone has a credible explanation as to why OIS is not present at 1080 60? I can understand it not being available in higher resolutions but really at 1080 60, on a flagship with is marketed as (and by many agreed to be) the best camera phone of the market it's just not acceptable. Found out while waiting for my order to ship and am pretty pi$$ed.
Can we at least hope it will be added with a sw update in the future or it's not possible technically? Is the P20Pro sensor's OIS somehow bound to the 30fps?
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P20 pro never had ois on its main camera, the rgb and mono. It only has ois on the telephoto 8mp lens to assist with too much vibration while zooming. The 1080p 30fps only uses eis/ais.
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P20 pro never had ois on its main camera, the rgb and mono. It only has ois on the telephoto 8mp lens to assist with too much vibration while zooming. The 1080p 30fps only uses eis/ais.
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1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
dladz said:
1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
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I read somewhere that the rgb and mono hardware moving is for autofocus not ois. It's ais (ai stabilizer) that making the recording good at stabilizing.
Oh not to mention xperia's steady shot is EIS and not OIS and it's pretty good.
So, if it's all digital, does it make even more sense to expect it being available in the future on resolutions greater than 1080 30? I mean at least 1080 60 should be standard in 2018 flagships!
I bought a gimbal for $90... Im hoping this would do the trick for 4k stabilization...
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I bought a gimbal for $90... Im hoping this would do the trick for 4k stabilization...
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My thoughts exactly. I am one click away form ordering the Zhiyun Smooth Q. Then again I know the AIS on the P20 Pro works superbly so I can maybe limit my videos to 1080 30? Decisions decisions...
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My thoughts exactly. I am one click away form ordering the Zhiyun Smooth Q. Then again I know the AIS on the P20 Pro works superbly so I can maybe limit my videos to 1080 30? Decisions decisions...
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Thats the one I got.. It seems to be pretty good... I havent done any intense testing just around the house for now.. works well...
dladz said:
1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
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Yes it's AIS. And Sony uses the same excellent stabilisation. Better than OIS hands down. I had Sony phone before. Just a shame that Huawei didn't implement it at 4k and at 60fps.
Afiuq said:
I read somewhere that the rgb and mono hardware moving is for autofocus not ois. It's ais (ai stabilizer) that making the recording good at stabilizing.
Oh not to mention xperia's steady shot is EIS and not OIS and it's pretty good.
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Yea it's absolutely amazing. Never seen anything like it..
yeah EIS is good.. but it crops the image too much. I prefer OIS
So sad you’ll had to buy an stabilizer device.... having the most powerfull mobile in photos of 2018.... I have my iPhone 7 Plus with FHD/60fps with stabilization in fact.... better videos with a mobile of 2016...

Question How to improve video quality (4k details)

Hi,
I noticed the bit rate in video recording on the S21 ultra is significantly lower than the competition's and I think this is why the video doesn't look as sharp (because the photos are better than that of the same competitors). Is there anyway to make it record at higher bit rate to get properly good results?
It seems like Samsung artificially decreases the quality of the video for some unknown reason. Do you think there is a chance Samsung will fix it in future update?
Thanks
yes you should use 3rd party software like FilmicPro & mcpro24fps
I will give it a try, but usually the HDR capabilities of 3rd party apps are not as good, as well as stabilization.
Filmic Pro also still doesn't support 10bit or [email protected]
Is there a way to get rid of the oversharpened look of videos in the main app?
it supports both , you cant control anything in stock apps
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I will give it a try, but usually the HDR capabilities of 3rd party apps are not as good, as well as stabilization.
Filmic Pro also still doesn't support 10bit or [email protected]
Is there a way to get rid of the oversharpened look of videos in the main app?
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Since the last 1 or 2 updates it now supports both.
Stabilization seems quite bad, though. Edit: This due to the stabilization being turned off, probably....
The FilmicPro is really underwhelming in low light:
Wagnerian said:
Stabilization seems quite bad, though. Edit: This due to the stabilization being turned off, probably....
The FilmicPro is really underwhelming in low light:
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Why does filmic fail to impress you? It is significantly better if you look at it from a more experienced perspective. Original is overbrightenned and denoised to a hurtful point so it looks blurry almost.
The filmic one is more realistic and much sharper. The noise is easy to remove in post.
Plus filmic has plenty of quality and denoise settings which could be turned on and off and adjusted. We don't know what the Korean guy in the video has for his settings in Filmic.
it supports only OIS though which makes 4k60 as shaky as it was on Mi 8 back in the day, so you need gimbal or something of sorts, + one thing it doesn't sort is 2x less detail compared to 4k30, i get higher detail with Filmic on 4k60 with S20 Ultra with a generation older sensor than what i get with S21 Ultra so i avoid using 4k60 completely on that phone

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