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Those who have their phone know the cable on the fast charger is 1 meter, which is not long enough to reach any table youd ever have a plug next to.
I tried two different type C -> Type C cables and neither would fast charge with the included wall wart.
Anyone find a longer cable that fast charges with our plugs? 2 meters would be great.
It's tough sledding hacking through all the different Amazon.com listings to get something with an actual USB 3.1 and 3A rating for a 2m cable. The ones I;ve seen are either out of stock, take forever to come from China or overpriced in the $25-30 range. Would love to hear from anyone that actually found one too.
I bought a type C to A from amazon for the computer and it charges rapidly on all my wall chargers down to 2.4 amp.
Monoprice was out, otherwise I would have ordered there. >>> http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13010
this is what I'm using, fast charges and mounts no problem.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
I would bet this will work. same brand as what I have, they have a real thick jacket on them. It's a good cord.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
edit, I just read the description on amazon for those cords
....Note for Nexus 5X/6P: In order to ensure FAST CHARGING, please ensure the charger can output 5V/3A. The cable can afford 3A current did not mean it can provide 3A. We recommend use Google official USB Type C charger with our USB C to C cable...
That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
minnemike said:
That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
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Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
br125 said:
Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
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USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
minnemike said:
USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
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I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
br125 said:
I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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Yes I do have the cable. Monoprice has that 3.1 description on all of their type c cables for some reason. The 2.0 3a cable works just fine.. I just went from 49% to 82% from when I went outside to winterize my boat and when I just went back in to check my phone, not sure how long that was, but a pretty short period of time. I usually put it on the charger when I turn on the TV at night and take it off when it hits 100% before I do to sleep.
I ordered this USB A to C one, http://.ebay.com/itm/261840366171 . The phone says Charging Rapidly. I have not done any data transfer with the computer, but upon plugging it in, the computer detected it ok. It ships from the US, but took a little while with standard shipping. Maybe almost a week;
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
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Do0zman said:
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
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It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
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You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
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Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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I dunno about that. I have used a couple 2A Samsung USB chargers with type a to c cable and my phone charges almost as quickly as the stock charger at least in regards of empty to full. I think the difference between the stock and alternate high amp chargers that are around 2A is how quickly it can do a partial quick charge from say 0 to 50% but from 0 to 100% I haven't noticed much of a difference.
I am using this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2I0F4U
and this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DAES3S
EeZeEpEe said:
It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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I got one of his cables to review... I got it to charge 2.2A + using a 2.4A charger. But I do think you are correct in that there probably isnt a 3A option with anything using USB TYPE-A. 3A seems to be the realm of pure USB TYPE-C.
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
caseyweed said:
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
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Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
ryan stewart said:
Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
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That's really odd. Mine registered fast charging immediately. I tested with Ampere multiple times and received the exact same reading with both cables.
I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable - Does not follow usb spec. [edit] as of 11/18 customers that have purchased this cable can request a new-to-spec cable from Techmatte and they will ship a new one. I will review the new unit when it comes in.
PECHAM B32 USB 3.1 Type C Male to Type A USB 3.0 Male Cable - usb spec. unconfirmed
Google - USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
USB Type C Cable, CHOETECH 3.3ft - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male - usb spec. unconfirmed
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0 - Does not follow usb spec.
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable - Does not follow usb spec.
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
OnePlus Type-C Cable - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
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I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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roxtedy169 said:
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
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I can confirm the techmatte cable is showing fast charging. I cannot confirm if the cable is actually to spec.
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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I totally understand. I have been reading all of the reviews that he has been posting. I will update the OP with approved cables later today if possible.
FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
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Could you link the cord that you bought? If it is the same one that is in the OP please link the charger you are using.
BinkXDA said:
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
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Thank you, I have ordered this cable. I will review when it comes in.
elherr said:
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
Tank87 said:
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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I will do my best to keep it updated.
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
banksc said:
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
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It is interesting that you were able to get this cable to register as charging rapidly. It is the exact same cable that I bought and returned and with a 3A charger it did not register as charging rapidly on my phone. For right now I will leave this cable in the category that it is in until further confirmation. I wonder if it is a charger specific thing?
basill said:
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
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I have added the Pecham cable to the OP. Thanks for the confirmation. I am getting the Google OEM cable A - C tomorrow. I will see if I can reproduce the results that you got with the OEM cable.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Up until tonight I didn't realize that charging rapidly does not show every time. I will dig into this further this week. I will also be adding the official OEM A to C cable from Google to the list.
I'm confused, I thought USB A to C can only suppose 2.4A max
You're using a charging brick that uses 3A output, does that mean .6A does not get used?
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Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
sturmeh said:
Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable (USB-A to USB-C) does not fast charge when you plug it into a non-fast charging compatible source (such as a PC's USB ports).
Any USB-C cable should be capable of fast charging when plugged into an adapter rated for 3A current draw.
Cables that are not to spec will allow the phone to "charge rapidly" when it should not be charging rapidly.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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I agree with that, but there are certain cables that still follow the A -> C spec and allow "charging rapidly" when paired with the proper charger. I know they won't be capable of the full 2.8A - 3.0A but they can allow a max of 2.4A, and that's something that is ok with me.
TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
I see no official car charger is out for the z play and its only the hard wired mains charger that came in the box.
does anyone have any good car chargers and mains chargers that charge with "turbo power"?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-f...urbocharge-compatible-chargers-t3430605/page1
Try that
seems many of the chinese ones cause issues such as car fuses blowing and such.
not good, the usb c situation is a right mess at the moment.
Aukey CC-T7 & Cable matters USB type C on both ends cable, tested and guaranteed, turbo charging in the car.
I've had this one in two cars for over a year without a problem, first for my Nexus 5x and now for the Moto Z Play. I have Benson-approved USB A->C cables for charging.
Contrary to come of Motos other phones, the Z Play charges using the generic amperage method (like the Nexus 5x) instead of proprietary voltage methods like Samsung and other Motos use. That means that anytime you hook up the phone to something that puts out more than the standard 1A, you'll charge faster. I have a 2A charger, and when I plug the Moto into it, it charges faster than with 1A but not as fast with 3A (obviously). The stock charger puts out 3A. I've used the old Nexus 5x charger, and it charges the same as with the stock charger since it's also 3A.
https://www.amazon.com/iXCC-Charger...8-2&keywords=iXCC®+Dual+USB+4.8+Amp+(24+Watt)
pkadavid said:
I've had this one in two cars for over a year without a problem, first for my Nexus 5x and now for the Moto Z Play. I have Benson-approved USB A->C cables for charging.
Contrary to come of Motos other phones, the Z Play charges using the generic amperage method (like the Nexus 5x) instead of proprietary voltage methods like Samsung and other Motos use. That means that anytime you hook up the phone to something that puts out more than the standard 1A, you'll charge faster. I have a 2A charger, and when I plug the Moto into it, it charges faster than with 1A but not as fast with 3A (obviously). The stock charger puts out 3A. I've used the old Nexus 5x charger, and it charges the same as with the stock charger since it's also 3A.
https://www.amazon.com/iXCC-Charger...8-2&keywords=iXCC®+Dual+USB+4.8+Amp+(24+Watt)
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I tried my previous Aukey 30 watt dual USB quick charge charger with 2 different type A to type C cables and couldn't get turbo charging to engage at all. However my Moto X turbo charged just fine with that setup as well as my friends Moto Z Force. Guessing it's all in the cables, but the setup I listed with the Aukey type C port and a dual type C cable does the trick perfectly.
For what it's worth, the iMuto power banks with the type C port will also engage the turbo charge function
siralsmooth said:
I tried my previous Aukey 30 watt dual USB quick charge charger with 2 different type A to type C cables and couldn't get turbo charging to engage at all. However my Moto X turbo charged just fine with that setup as well as my friends Moto Z Force. Guessing it's all in the cables, but the setup I listed with the Aukey type C port and a dual type C cable does the trick perfectly.
For what it's worth, the iMuto power banks with the type C port will also engage the turbo charge function
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It likely wasn't the cable. If you were trying to use a quick charger, then it's not going to fast charge the MZP. As I mentioned, the MZP uses amperage-based, not voltage-based fast charging. E.g. if you take a look at the output on a quick charger, it's going to show nearly the same amperage (see first example below). A unique thing about the MZP and all other USB C phones from Moto, if you hook it up to even to 2A charger, you can see it tell you that it's turbo charging. It still won't charge as fast as if you hook it up to a 3A or higher charger, like the second one below.
Here is the charger that works e.g. with the Moto X. It does not fast charge the MZP. This is also commonly referred to as quick charge.
Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W)
TurboPower: 9V / 1.67A (15W)
TurboPower: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-15-wall-charger
Here is the output for a charger that Moto sells that works with the USB C devices.
5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-30-wall-charger
pkadavid said:
It likely wasn't the cable. If you were trying to use a quick charger, then it's not going to fast charge the MZP. As I mentioned, the MZP uses amperage-based, not voltage-based fast charging. E.g. if you take a look at the output on a quick charger, it's going to show nearly the same amperage (see first example below). A unique thing about the MZP and all other USB C phones from Moto, if you hook it up to even to 2A charger, you can see it tell you that it's turbo charging. It still won't charge as fast as if you hook it up to a 3A or higher charger, like the second one below.
Here is the charger that works e.g. with the Moto X. It does not fast charge the MZP. This is also commonly referred to as quick charge.
Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W)
TurboPower: 9V / 1.67A (15W)
TurboPower: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-15-wall-charger
Here is the output for a charger that Moto sells that works with the USB C devices.
5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-30-wall-charger
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I hope your comparison is just for example purposes, as the two phones and their respective chargers are incompatible with each other.
As for the 30 watt charger for the Z & Z Force, it gives ZERO benefit to the Z Play and doesn't give any additional quick charging. This has been tested and proven to be of no benefit to us Z Play owners.
Also, hooking up my device to any 2A charger, Stock Samsung, my in wall USB outlets, Apple, or my old Aukey quick charger, the power ports of the imuto or my other 2 power banks with a 2.4A output, DOES NOT ENGAGE TURBO CHARGING! This has been confirmed with the normal charging toast message, as well as in ampre. The info you said is incorrect.
Also attaching screenshots of the following, stock charger, Imuto power bank, the Aukey car charger I've listed, and the 2.4A Samsung charger with the A to C cable. You'll notice that in all instances where type C to C is used, turbo is engaged. Whereas with type A to C with a 2.4A charger charges normal.
Also, I'm very aware of how my Moto X and most of my friends quickcharge capable devices charge. The info is actually listed on the charger.
siralsmooth said:
I hope your comparison is just for example purposes, as the two phones and their respective chargers are incompatible with each other.
As for the 30 watt charger for the Z & Z Force, it gives ZERO benefit to the Z Play and doesn't give any additional quick charging. This has been tested and proven to be of no benefit to us Z Play owners.
Also, hooking up my device to any 2A charger, Stock Samsung, my in wall USB outlets, Apple, or my old Aukey quick charger, the power ports of the imuto or my other 2 power banks with a 2.4A output, DOES NOT ENGAGE TURBO CHARGING! This has been confirmed with the normal charging toast message, as well as in ampre. The info you said is incorrect.
Also attaching screenshots of the following, stock charger, Imuto power bank, the Aukey car charger I've listed, and the 2.4A Samsung charger with the A to C cable. You'll notice that in all instances where type C to C is used, turbo is engaged. Whereas with type A to C with a 2.4A charger charges normal.
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Don't know what to tell you. Attached is a screenshot after plugging my phone into a 2A wall charger just now (A to C). Other than that, I've used the original N5x (C to C) and the aforementioned 4.8A car charger (A to C), both of which triggered the same turbo toast message. Even my XPS 13 triggers the turbo charging toast message when I plug the phone into it (A to C).
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I also tried the Ampere app after seeing your screenshots. I wasn't aware of that app. Same result. Confirmed turbo in the situations I specified above.
By the way, I apologize if I came across rude. I didn't mean to and was trying to be helpful.
Welp, maybe your device is a little more forgiving. All I can say is that my device, will not engage turbo charging without a C to C or OEM charger. I tried both the A to C cables I own, one was a standard, one was USB 3.0, and neither will engage turbo off of any 2.0~2.4A chargers.
The info I've sourced was also shown on another Android forum where they did tons of checking of different chargers, OEM and other such with different amperage amounts and using Ampere. Google searching for Moto Z Play Quick charging should find it in the first few results if you're up for a read.
siralsmooth said:
Aukey CC-T7 & Cable matters USB type C on both ends cable, tested and guaranteed, turbo charging in the car.
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Is that a typo? CC-T7 is a Type-A to Type-C charger.
Kewjoe said:
Is that a typo? CC-T7 is a Type-A to Type-C charger.
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The Aukey CC-Y1 is what that should have said. Sorry about that, T7 was what I used with my Moto X Pure.
This is the correct charger, Y1, NOT THE T7.
So to confirm, you got turbocharge using the top type c port, but not the bottom type a QC3.0 port?
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Kewjoe said:
So to confirm, you got turbocharge using the top type c port, but not the bottom type a QC3.0 port?
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Correct. Type C to Type C
Moto Z Play is a lot like Nexus 5x/6P/Pixel when it comes to charging. It doesn't support Qualcomm quick charge 3.0. Moto's Turbpower tech is apparently just another name for USB Power Delivery (PD). From my experience with Nexus 6p, you need a charger with a usb c port and proper usb c cable (with C type socket on both ends).
I've seen posts confirming this.
Be sure to check if the wall charger, the cable or the power bank you plan to buy supports USB PD and has a usb c port capable of outputting 3A. Not every usb c cable is capable of usb c power delivery.
Also usb pd means you can Turbopower-charge your Moto Z with type c laptop chargers, including Apple macbook chargers.
Hi guys, can we use 18w Power Delivery charging (USB type C to USB type C) on our Galaxy Note 9? As far as I know (read in GSMArena), Galaxy Note 9 only supports up to 15w charging.
Thanks
alfin97 said:
Hi guys, can we use 18w Power Delivery charging (USB type C to USB type C) on our Galaxy Note 9? As far as I know (read in GSMArena), Galaxy Note 9 only supports up to 15w charging.
Thanks
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Yes, you can... but using usb type c it will not fast charge the N9 i.e the voltage stays at 5V and does not increase to 9V, although the current can go beyond the stock 1.67A.. close to 2A using some cables.
PD power adapters are the future due to universal compatibility. For example, I have one 60W PD power supply with an additional QC3.0 port; this allows me to charge my laptop at full stock speed and my N9 at full fast charge mode using the QC3.0 port.
android_htc said:
Yes, you can... but using usb type c it will not fast charge the N9 i.e the voltage stays at 5V and does not increase to 9V, although the current can go beyond the stock 1.67A.. close to 2A using some cables.
PD power adapters are the future due to universal compatibility. For example, I have one 60W PD power supply with an additional QC3.0 port; this allows me to charge my laptop at full stock speed and my N9 at full fast charge mode using the QC3.0 port.
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Great! That means the PD will adapt to the N9's maximum voltage and current. I was just afraid it could mess up my N9. Thanks for the info!
jd14771 said:
15w is the maximum wattage that you can charge you phone or other devices through Samsung power sharing app. It's a hardware limitation that can't be over ridden.
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Thanks for the info!