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I'm currently on a Samsung SIII with KitKat (omnirom), but because my daughter's phone broke down it's going to her after I get my new phone. I wanted to buy a Nexus 5, but it's sold out in the Netherlands even though it's € 400,- instead of € 350,- Because I was in a hurry I opted for an S4-active. I had some water damage with a HTC HD2 in the past and this one is probably better equipped in that respect. I already read enough to avoid putting it under water on purpose.
But...
I did get a bit of a scare when I looked for custom ROMs in this thread. Why are there so few options? Is this phone so different?
Maybe I should have waited a bit longer or even try to get a Nexus 5 from Germany.
Can someone give me an advice what to flash when my phone arrives? I don't like all the Samsung bloatware and don't mind to run cyanogenmod.
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I find this phone to be an almost perfect match for me.
I don't take underwater photos, but I love watching online content while I take a bath. I would never do this with any other phone. It's decided to take a few dips in the tub with me, but just pulling it out and drying it off it doesn't miss a beat.
The lack of custom roms/kernals is a bit disappointing, but I find that with the safestrap and Google stock rom I'm able to reach an experience that I can enjoy.
The screen was a sell for me hands down. I hate the new pentile style screens that cause blurriness in the display. Despite many people telling me it's not humanly possible to tell on such a small screen. When I see a flat red/blue color on the normal S4 screen it looks absolutely disgusting (Think 540p resolution because of the 1:2 ratio of pentile to rgb)
Thanks for your elaborate reply. I went to the safestrap thread. Is this only for the AT&T version or is it for my international version as well?
You're talking about Google stock.. do you mean cyanogenmod?
I hope to hear more from you
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The limited ROM development is quite disappointing but I think it's because the market that would've normally bought this device had already largely bought the s4.
I use the CyanogenMod ROM. It works quite well. The camera works but it's unstable. LTE is great .
I agree with Celeste, the display is amazingly good, especially considering it is LCD based. The phone is also the only device I know of that combines both the features of Exynos 5 (which features the BIG.little CPU design) and LTE in one package.
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I don't use Cyanogen, just the Stock Google 4.2 Rom that's in one of the development threads.
I haven't seen any of the features of most customized roms to be appealing enough to me, and I'm always afraid the features will end up adding larger overhead to the system.
I really enjoy 60fps content whenever I'm playing around and the jitter that happens whenever other processes get in the way of displaying the next frame always seem to irk me a bit.
I'm actually about to sell my active to buy a nexus 5, due to the limited rom development. Just waiting for the 32Gb model to reach Sweden.
I've got the international version as well, and as you've noted we don't have much to choose from - safestrap won't work for us. I run cyanogenmod and it mostly works, has a few quirks particularly when it comes to the camera that has me rebooting now and then. I don't think anyone can answer if you bought the right phone or not, it really comes down to if you can live with one of the existing roms or not - because there isn't likely to ever be many roms to choose from. This phone just didn't get a breakthrough and there just isn't enough users out there to get the development really going. The hardware is good, the screen is phenomenal, but that's not all there is to a phone for me.
Try out the roms, and if they don't scratch your itch... sell it and get something else.
Thanks for all the info...
I already have the files in place to flash when it arrives tomorrow.
I think I'm going to flash it to Google's
If only we would have the same deals as our German neighbours...
€ 350,- is still even much more than $ 350,-
They could at least have given us the 32 MB model for that price.
Otherwise I would have waited for the Nexus...
Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
wont recommend for the camera, rest the performance & battery is huge and efficient... I keep iphone 7 for camera/snapchat/etc
No, not at all. After about 10 days I got airplane mode issue that can't be solved now, I had only 7 days replacement warranty :/ Camera also not of that level. So don't go for it.
thank you guys
The camera is not good and the fingerprint sensor fails after a few months, but the long battery life is awesome and software support (CM14, NucleaROM) is great. It depends on what you want/need. As a practical, affordable tool, the Zuk Z1's a great phone.
I probably wouldn't consider it if I weren't putting a custom ROM on it, though.
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
benyben123 said:
Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
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I do think, though, that if his wife wants a nice camera, she should look for another phone.
I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
cfds said:
What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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I have my zuk z1 since October last year and flashed a rom a few weeks ago cause of all the problems with the standard software, yes I did try a factory reset to see if it solves my problems wich it didn't. The hardware of this phone is good enough the only problem I have is that my fingerprint scanner doesn't work anymore. The biggest problem is the software, it's buggy, slow, still runs on lollipop and the last security update is form June
cfds said:
What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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Lolipop is pathetic, with default operating system screen was way too yellowish (even after customizing colors), finger print button wasn't working as home button, too old operating system the default one is.
I also won't recommend, even if you he goes with it I'll recommend custom rom.
Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
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Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
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So you bought the second good ZUK Z1 ever produced?!
I agree, good value for money! Has the best GPS I ever encountered in a smartphone...
When I unpacked my "brand new" phone more than a year ago it had (still has) a small nick in the frame next to the USB charging point, that's how it came off the production line. Got the phone off ebay.de and decided it wasn't wort the hassle to get is shipped back and replaced. Lenovo probably "marked" the few good phones...:laugh:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
_ray_ said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
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1. i had an OPO and i guess it not supported anymore, but i installed a custom ROM the first day i got it and custom ROM support is amazing, there is still a big community. Guess there wont be many other devices being better off.
2. couldnt be easier. All u need to do is just follow the instruction given for the ROM. Support in this forum is also given.
3. For me the latency is the same as it feels with my gf's pixel phone. Camera i cant say much cuz the only fotos i do is about documents and writings. But these are super easy to read. I have no idea thogh how beautiful pictures will get.
4. what do u mean? there wont be any sales on the phone
I came from the D855 (G3) was a huge step i was going to wait for SD835 smartphone but my phone died, so i wanted something super fast, and unlocked, when i mean unlocked is a company that gives you acess to the hardware this is bootloader unlock, as many companys do NOT, the phone is tremendous fast, fingerprinting in 0.2sec it opens before you blink, the screen looks way better than my G3 which was the first 2k screen, its vivid and bright, dash charging is awesome it charge your phone way to fast xD, its the first phone that i dont need to let it in charger over night, 3.4A battery is more than enought, 8h+ of SOT? i had at must 1.5 to 2h of sot on my D855, huge huge difference, for the moment this is by a large margin the best device you can buy, as for the cameras or any other features i dont care, they do the work just fine, i have a mirrorless camera for photography so i dont care about the camera, its still packs a 16MP on front camera which get you a very sharp face if you are a selfie person, anyother i just got this phone by its hardware, super fast and cheap for a flagship? i spent 439 + karbon case this phone worth every penny, so go for it it feels very nice in the hand, and the metal its of nice quality! it even comes with a screen protector by default thats a nice touch from them! oneplus is a great company you wont Regret it!
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
OnePlus does a decent job but don't expect Nexus-grade updates. You'll mostly be relying on the XDA community.
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
Very Easy. Unlock bootloader from bootloader menu, flash twrp via fastboot, flash a custom rom and that's it.
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
Touchscreen latency was never THAT bad unless you're a pretentious user. You shouldn't worry this because most custom kernels improve it, and at some point it will be fixed completely by OnePlus. Camera is decent, the sensor is the same as the one in V20. It's the processing that sucks compared to other phones, so don't expect much.
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Not sure what you mean. But i'm certain you will be satisfied of the phone for the price paid.
xhitm3n said:
I came from the D855 (G3) was a huge step i was going to wait for SD835 smartphone but my phone died, so i wanted something super fast, and unlocked, when i mean unlocked is a company that gives you acess to the hardware this is bootloader unlock, as many companys do NOT, the phone is tremendous fast, fingerprinting in 0.2sec it opens before you blink, the screen looks way better than my G3 which was the first 2k screen, its vivid and bright, dash charging is awesome it charge your phone way to fast xD, its the first phone that i dont need to let it in charger over night, 3.4A battery is more than enought, 8h+ of SOT? i had at must 1.5 to 2h of sot on my D855, huge huge difference, for the moment this is by a large margin the best device you can buy, as for the cameras or any other features i dont care, they do the work just fine, i have a mirrorless camera for photography so i dont care about the camera, its still packs a 16MP on front camera which get you a very sharp face if you are a selfie person, anyother i just got this phone by its hardware, super fast and cheap for a flagship? i spent 439 + karbon case this phone worth every penny, so go for it it feels very nice in the hand, and the metal its of nice quality! it even comes with a screen protector by default thats a nice touch from them! oneplus is a great company you wont Regret it!
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I was on exactly same situation last week. [emoji2]
_ray_ said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
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HI,
Note: I had the op3 and now i am using the op3t from dec.
1. Updates on the op are fairly quick, as of now we have an open beta for 7.1.1 with march security patch. We will be getting the full update sometime in this month.
2.This is where the op devices shine the most.The op community is great,you will get the community app installed on the device. you can find all required the guides for unlocking,roms and troubleshooting there.The op3t has support for all the popular custom roms so you can get the updates asap.
3.The touch latency issue is still there but it is not that bad.The camera is not bad at all.Its a great camera for the price and takes great pics in good light conditions but the low light photos are not that great.If you are a serious camera buff you might be disappointed.
4.After sales is bad here in India. Its handled by a company called servify. Had the op3 and i broke it in 3 weeks of purchase. I had got their one year "accidental damage protection" thingy so i went to the service center fairly optimistic . After looking at the phone they said "the back of your is damaged and we do not cover cosmetic parts under our insurance, we will fix the screen for free". I was angry but agreed to get it fixed any way. After that they say if you want to go through our insurance you have to open a claim via the op app,we cannot do it here. I returned home did what they said and after two days i got a call from some shady insurance company refusing my claim saying there is something wrong with my paperwork.Even after doing all the things they said they still refused it. But I loved my phone so tried to get it repaired any way. Here op3 costs 28k. After making a claim they told me i have to pay 12k for the screen,10k for the back and 1k for repair . Thats 23k,roughly 83% of what i paid for the phone in the first place.
Alek123 said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
OnePlus does a decent job but don't expect Nexus-grade updates. You'll mostly be relying on the XDA community.
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
Very Easy. Unlock bootloader from bootloader menu, flash twrp via fastboot, flash a custom rom and that's it.
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
Touchscreen latency was never THAT bad unless you're a pretentious user. You shouldn't worry this because most custom kernels improve it, and at some point it will be fixed completely by OnePlus. Camera is decent, the sensor is the same as the one in V20. It's the processing that sucks compared to other phones, so don't expect much.
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Not sure what you mean. But i'm certain you will be satisfied of the phone for the price paid.
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I was having same issue last week but now OK.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
One thing i am quite worried about is that like most companies the older models of OP have been not getting any updates from OP at all, e.g Android 7.0. Also custom ROM development on older models seems to be very slow and most major Dev have moved on to newer models unlike older Nexus which is still supported after all those years. I know I can get Nougat support via custom ROMs but support for old devices is one of the main things I am looking for, since I am planning to keep my phone for at least 2 years.
I think i am going to hold on to my G3 for a bit longer and see what other options are available later on during this year.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
One thing i am quite worried about is that like most companies the older models of OP have been not getting any updates from OP at all, e.g Android 7.0. Also custom ROM development on older models seems to be very slow and most major Dev have moved on to newer models unlike older Nexus which is still supported after all those years. I know I can get Nougat support via custom ROMs but support for old devices is one of the main things I am looking for, since I am planning to keep my phone for at least 2 years.
I think i am going to hold on to my G3 for a bit longer and see what other options are available later on during this year.
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Edit: just look at the first OnePlus model and the 7.1.1 roms and kernels that are available and beeing actively supported, this is a 3 year old phone.
If you`re always looking for the next big thing or latest technology you can never ever buy a phone again. There will always be new devices that will be released throughout the year I ordered mine (coming from a iPhone 7 Plus) because i think and according to the reviews its a solid phone for a descent price.
My wife is gonna beat me down but I'm sick of this Droid turbo. I'm aware the 5 will be out within the next few months or so and will wait to get a 5t when that comes avail.
For this new phone anything I should do to prep?
How is the durability?
Picked up a default case from one plus. Should that be fine? Or should I consider an otterbox.
Looking forward to loading a rom on it.
Spadizzle said:
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You better buy a helmet, and strap yourself in, because this phone is gonna blow you away!
No, seriously, I wouldn't say there is anything special you need to do, to prepare. Since you stated you are going to put a custom ROM on the phone, do the usual due diligence and read the general process on unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, etc. (plus you probably want to read up on dm-verity and understand what it is). But most of that is not too different from modding other Android devices - and you may in fact find it's even easier with the 3T (as Oneplus seems to be very friendly to the mod community).
Know how to flash the stock update files (return to stock), etc. I always read for at least an hour or 2 when getting a new phone. To me, that is the basic required research. And heck, it's fun to read about your new toy.
Other than that, you already bought a case, and the phone usually comes with a screen protector (although reports vary on whether it comes with a plastic or tempered glass protector). But you may want to research if you want a particular screen protector.
Other than that, the phone will arrive, just throw in your SIM, and you should be good to go. Well, on that note if you are using a smaller carrier (or buying version not specific to your region, etc) read up on whether you will need to manually input the APN.
You may even be pleasantly surprised at the stock ROM. It's amazing clean, to the point that some folks are calling the phone the spiritual successor to the Nexus line (since the Pixel basically priced itself out of any such comparison).
Spadizzle said:
How is the durability?
Picked up a default case from one plus. Should that be fine? Or should I consider an otterbox.
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Well, I suppose that depends on how rough you are with your phone, and what level of protection you prefer. I'm take reasonably good care of my phones. I don't baby them, but I don't abuse them either. Keep it in my pocket, with the official bamboo case, and it gives me sufficient protection. But the default cases are thin, and really more for just preventing scratches; and don't give any protection from impacts, drops, etc.. If you want impact protection, go for something else.
I can only speak to the durability after about 3 months, as that is how long I've had mine. With the official bamboo base, and the plastic screen protector it came with, the phone itself still looks virtually as good as new.
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You better buy a helmet, and strap yourself in, because this phone is gonna blow you away!
No, seriously, I wouldn't say there is anything special you need to do, to prepare. Since you stated you are going to put a custom ROM on the phone, do the usual due diligence and read the general process on unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, etc. (plus you probably want to read up on dm-verity and understand what it is). But most of that is not too different from modding other Android devices - and you may in fact find it's even easier with the 3T (as Oneplus seems to be very friendly to the mod community).
Know how to flash the stock update files (return to stock), etc. I always read for at least an hour or 2 when getting a new phone. To me, that is the basic required research. And heck, it's fun to read about your new toy.
Other than that, you already bought a case, and the phone usually comes with a screen protector (although reports vary on whether it comes with a plastic or tempered glass protector). But you may want to research if you want a particular screen protector.
Other than that, the phone will arrive, just throw in your SIM, and you should be good to go. Well, on that note if you are using a smaller carrier (or buying version not specific to your region, etc) read up on whether you will need to manually input the APN.
You may even be pleasantly surprised at the stock ROM. It's amazing clean, to the point that some folks are calling the phone the spiritual successor to the Nexus line (since the Pixel basically priced itself out of any such comparison).
Well, I suppose that depends on how rough you are with your phone, and what level of protection you prefer. I'm take reasonably good care of my phones. I don't baby them, but I don't abuse them either. Keep it in my pocket, with the official bamboo case, and it gives me sufficient protection. But the default cases are thin, and really more for just preventing scratches; and don't give any protection from impacts, drops, etc.. If you want impact protection, go for something else.
I can only speak to the durability after about 3 months, as that is how long I've had mine. With the official bamboo base, and the plastic screen protector it came with, the phone itself still looks virtually as good as new.
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Thank you for the reply
Have been reading up about it. Pretty much researched between the pixel and s8 and the oneplus. Couldn't pass up the price over the hardware. Figured I would hand it off to the wife when the 5t comes on as long as my experience is good with the 3.
I did read their was support issues with the 2 series after the 3 came out. Hopefully oneplus continues support somewhat when the 5 comes out. I do understand that they want to keep costs down and would want people to move to the newer hardware though.
I am pretty good at Maintaining phones but in the second year of owning my turbo, I literally dropped it about one and half feet and the unbreakable screen broke. ? first ever time dropping it too!
You did give me some great ideas for reading. I read up on the unbrick post and have downloaded the latest stock firm from oneplus. I've never dealt with dmverity before, so definitely checking that out. Ive noticed Magick has that option but never checked that box though.
For unlocking I would think going into bootloader (fastboot), could simply just run the unlock command right?
Anyways, thanks again!
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I did read their was support issues with the 2 series after the 3 came out. Hopefully oneplus continues support somewhat when the 5 comes out.
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That is what we all hope. History hasn't been kind to Oneplus on this point. But it's practically a startup company. So who knows how this may change going forward.
Worst case, the dev community will keep this device alive for years to come, through custom ROMs. It's currently the most active device on XDA, so I feel good on this point.
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For unlocking I would think going into bootloader (fastboot), could simply just run the unlock command right?
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That is correct. The phone will be wiped when you unlock, but that is pretty typical, so probably not news to you.
There is also a slightly annoying warning screen that will come up every time you boot the phone, saying the bootloader is unlocked. It comes up for 5 seconds, or you can press the power button to bypass it. No way to be completely rid of this warning screen, without relocking the bootloader (which you should not do with TWRP, root, etc. or you will soft brick).
Short story, the bootloader warning screen is something you live with, if you want to run with a modded phone (TWRP, root, custom ROM, etc.).
Everything on the 3T in my eyes is 10/10
OOS is my favourite Stock Os I have came across, yes pixel owners have pure stock and on the dot security updates but OOS offers the same experience with some extra customisation and flair.
Screen is great for the size, welcome to AMOLED. Yes it is a pentile display but it has no impact on daily use or image quality unless you come from a qHD. If you find the colour to punchy turn on sRGB.
Audio is pretty dam good through headphones even from the bottom speaker I was surprised that it had some depth. Pocketnow on YouTube has a great review on audio performance.
Performance well it is now the second fastest Chip but it will fly with everything but I will say try Blu-spark kernel and be blown away, 6GB of ram gives peace of mind if you have every app open and chrome tab insane that nothing with redraw upon opening.
Camera performance is where I would say it loses a point but not the actual sensor but more of the post processing as any still shot will look gorgeous, but it struggles with movement so if you like to take photos of kids or animals it will be luck of the draw. My tip is hold the shutter and take a chain of pictures with auto HDR disabled.
Charging is blazing fast I no longer charge overnight by the time I get up and ready I have plenty to go a day and more.
I was first very dubious of this phone when I ordered it as I came from Galaxy S3, Xperia Z2, Z3 and then Z3+ which destroyed my Sony loyalty. When I opened the great looking box and picked up my 3T I was like WOW and will stay with this brand till the day comes they piss me off. Some excellent craftsmanship that makes you want to keep it naked I know some OP2 owners got upset at the short support but I have always been into flashing and tweaking and they are not short of some great official ROMs. So that is my take a bit much but worth giving it a good shout and please stay away from oneplus's official forum as it is full of s***. :good:
the phone is great, well built, good battery, fantastic signal strength, I have not had any camera issues it does what I expect of it. the menu is a little different to stock so finding some settings is a learning process.
What I don't like is the alert slider with no way to turn it off or disable it also the customer support is unfortunately still terrible but community support is great.
I don't wanna buy again stuff before of 5 years and I hope it will get support for Android 10.
What is the best buy? All of these are in a range of 259 - 179 Euro. I saw that the Z3 C even if it is very old is the best in weight and measure which I was looking for, it also has not that privacy horror of digital reading and irid scan etc... which I despise.
Please can anyone help me especially in terms of Android upgrade as I can't last long with Android 6-7 nor 8 and also 9 won't be good enough for long I guess.
Tons of incompatibilities start to come out and I don't know also if the Z3C is ok to support a Android 10 with 2 Gb RAM and apps installed or if the same is true for the other 2 phones.
I know that Sony is not in good waters in terms of mobiles compartment... they might even close it... but the phones should stay good maybe for 5+ years, I guess. (?)
Obviously below is personal opinion, but here it is.
Xz1 if you could get it. But many versions of the phone sold on ebay are refurbished units sold as new. You can get Android 10 though. But do u really want a refurbished phone. Read the buyer reviews of the seller, there are negative reviews of purchases stated as new, but actually referb.
X compact you can get a real new unit for super cheap. Half the price of xz1c. It's specs, camera etc are good enough. Just it's latest Android is 8 officially, 9 with root.
For me, I would go with x compact. Because I want a truly new unit.
I won't choose z3, because it does not have USB c, and it's camera is slightly below average. It's a flat, dull camera. Admittedly it's size and software support is best, but USBc and can are deal braker for me in 2020.
Yes It's very hard to get it new. Thanks. I am going for the X Compact mostly probably. Infact an android 10 capable I can understand could last very very longer than a android 8 capable, maybe if I get the X Compact to 9 (I doubt it will) I will be able to keep it for 5 years at least. For me the consumerism, sorry is really a horrible sickness people have.
It's like watching war and saying, it's ok. it's normal.
I really appreciate your answer, it's so sad to be alone asking for support but no answer here and there
I hope i can get or the x1c or the x c, and also I dnt know what will be the result of the upgrade to 10 or to 9 respectively speaking. I heard it can lead to "breaking" also warming up etc.
Stuff my note 3 did constantly, also battery was dead in a few minutes, also changed batteries.. bah... I just know that they need to stay away from the sun, away from humidity, away from dust,.. just like pc, away from magnetic "storm" or sources... often stuff we criticize is caused by our use.
I also ignore if actually phones need to be kept between 15% and 80% always.. never allowing battery to go below. Only in the first day a super charge need to be given (keeping the phone for 24-48 h switched off and at 100 ...keeping on charging.
Thanks I got the X Compact, i really like that it is small, i know it's not good to watch videos as it can really ruin eyes a small screen, but I promise myself I am not gonna use it for that much.
... Got it for 185 Euro.. no way to get it for lower price new...
Glad I can jump from 5.0.2 of my note 3 now broken to the 8... I hope i can also jump to 9, but I have no idea if this is doable without risking a lot...\ instability etc.
donkeykong001 said:
Thanks I got the X Compact, i really like that it is small, i know it's not good to watch videos as it can really ruin eyes a small screen, but I promise myself I am not gonna use it for that much.
... Got it for 185 Euro.. no way to get it for lower price new...
Glad I can jump from 5.0.2 of my note 3 now broken to the 8... I hope i can also jump to 9, but I have no idea if this is doable without risking a lot...\ instability etc.
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I didn't see this until now. X Compact is the right choice. I love the XZ1C - it has the best hardware, performance, and Android 10 support right now. But unfortunately not possible to have GCam HDR and raw image support on it, that's a deal breaker to me. Also, it's a lost more expensive than the XC currently.
I use the XC as my current device, it requires tweaking to set it up correctly but if you spend time testing, you can get a lot out of it.
Hey thanks, it's coming home, and I am thankful. I was a stupid to break the note 3. It's strange, now it seems to consume battery much slower then before... ok whatever. I use it like a music player now as I work in the outdoors or do sports alone these days.
I really hope the tweaking (If necessary - maybe the android 9 version might be needed in the future if not immediately) doesn't brick or damage it, it would be a horror (I know many do this when it's out of warranty (2 years would be since we are lucky in EU, much better treatment than US or other places) if it breaks.
I'd love to learn also and maybe be able to go back to 8th (to which supposedly it will update autonomously to) how one should do this updates and decide how or when it's the time to do that. Also my note was over heating .. some say that this happens when some app is spying etc... probably bugged by police or gangs. I dnt know, I know that we are all targets.
I just hope I can put a cover on the lenses (I used a idraulic tape on the note and the cover was doing the rest) I know how much privacy breaking those open lens can be. I dnt have nothing to hide, I am just aware how precious privacy is (so many aren't)... and it's not phobia. I just think all need to work and do their little to keep it good for all in the future.
Sorry for the long message. I really am looking forward to learn some stuff, maybe I can share with others I meet on my path and redirect them here.
Thanks, and take care.