Hello everyone,
I have a canadian S10 SM-G973W from Rogers and I would like to know if its possible to flash a US firmware to change it to G973U. I want to do this to get the android 10 beta since it seem canada won't get it at all.
I've already looked on xda but I can't find any information about this. I've found some thread elsewhere about 973U user flashing canadian firmware and it worked but I don't want to brick my device. Thanks!
you can and I have but it would not give me the option to join the beta, even though my account is US, maybe the sim was the problem, I should have removed it and tried. I think the beta program is closed now too as well. I did read that someone sim locked their phone with one of the US firmwares. Be careful if you try, I used to U1 vs U firmware but either should work.
If you try and it you can join the beta I will flash again as well
cilk said:
Hello everyone,
I have a canadian S10 SM-G973W from Rogers and I would like to know if its possible to flash a US firmware to change it to G973U. I want to do this to get the android 10 beta since it seem canada won't get it at all.
I've already looked on xda but I can't find any information about this. I've found some thread elsewhere about 973U user flashing canadian firmware and it worked but I don't want to brick my device. Thanks!
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Yes it's possible. I did it with my BELL S10. Just use modified ODIN (3.13.3).
Since you were able to switch it from. The 973w to 973u, were u able to root it then?? Cause I wanna get my 973w rooted soon, but havent found a way yet and how did your s10 work after switching it from 973w - 973u??
jmcleod13 said:
Since you were able to switch it from. The 973w to 973u, were u able to root it then?? Cause I wanna get my 973w rooted soon, but havent found a way yet and how did your s10 work after switching it from 973w - 973u??
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You still won't be able to root it. These models have Snapdragon processors & seem to be locked down pretty tight. Only the phones with Exynos processors can be rooted at this time.
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burrzoo said:
You still won't be able to root it. These models have Snapdragon processors & seem to be locked down pretty tight. Only the phones with Exynos processors can be rooted at this time.
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Hopefully In the future the phone can be rooted with bootloader unlocked although i doubt it , but try to keep the hope
Actually, the Chinese varient with the Snapdragon processor can be rooted (as I had been wrong in mentioning that *any* Snapdragon processor phone could not be rooted). although, I doubt it will ever happen in the near future with any US Snapdragon model.
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The last U.S. snapdragon model to be rooted was the S9. The U.S. S10 and up have too much security and will probably never be rooted.
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Haven't had a note in a while and thinking about picking up a note 4. I am with T-Mobile and would purchase the T-Mobile version, I read about different variants and just wanted to make sure they could all be rooted, custom recovery and flashed without issue. In some of the threads here when people have issues, others ask what variant, etc.
Thanks
Ducter said:
Haven't had a note in a while and thinking about picking up a note 4. I am with T-Mobile and would purchase the T-Mobile version, I read about different variants and just wanted to make sure they could all be rooted, custom recovery and flashed without issue. In some of the threads here when people have issues, others ask what variant, etc.
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Get the sm-n910t (t-mobile version). Very mod friendly.
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The T-Mobile version comes with the bootloader unlocked out of the box. You can do whatever you want with/to it.
I just purchase a T-Mobile Note 4 on 11/17/15 from one of their store. The model that I got is the SM-N910T3 and not SM-N910T. It comes with Android 5.1.1 installed instead of 4.4.4. You will probably end up with this model. Does anyone know if this variant is still bootloader unlocked? I also read that the TW 5.1.1 rom has root blocking enabled by Samsung, can anyone recommend a custom kernel that can override this to prevent a bootloop?
T is better for ROM Support VS. T3. T3 may be smooother
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I just purchase a T-Mobile Note 4 on 11/17/15 from one of their store. The model that I got is the SM-N910T3 and not SM-N910T. It comes with Android 5.1.1 installed instead of 4.4.4. You will probably end up with this model. Does anyone know if this variant is still bootloader unlocked? I also read that the TW 5.1.1 rom has root blocking enabled by Samsung, can anyone recommend a custom kernel that can override this to prevent a bootloop?
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You want the T version for more ROM compatibility. The T3 version can be rooted and has a few ROMS but supposedly Samsung changed something in the phone so it has alot less ROM support. It does have root and 1 or 2 good ROM's though.
Root for T3
More info on T3
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Haven't had a note in a while and thinking about picking up a note 4. I am with T-Mobile and would purchase the T-Mobile version, I read about different variants and just wanted to make sure they could all be rooted, custom recovery and flashed without issue. In some of the threads here when people have issues, others ask what variant, etc.
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Did you ever end up buying this phone? I have been thinking about picking up a used one on Swappa to use as my daily driver until Samsung releases the S8 or Note 8. I currently have a LG V10 and even though it has an unlocked bootloater and root, there is zero ROM development for it due to issues with LG firmware/drivers.
Are people still working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?
If yes, how's it going?
I had a G870F but sent it swimming on 20m deep for three weeks. Needless to say it didn't survive.
Found the G870A and thought it was a bargain, however . . .
Pretty much a lost cause, most devs have moved on.
So the answer is not so straight forward. The current v 5.1 and above for the AT&T phones are not currently rootable. If you find a used or remanufactured S5 or S5 Active with 4.2 you will be in luck. I just had a problem with my Active found a replacement on the most popular buying and selling web site for around $230. Just make sure it has not been updated. If the seller is advertising it as 4.2 and you get it with 5.0 they must take it back if it's not what was advertised. Hope this helps.
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
darthmalus said:
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
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Thanks, but I have bought the phone already. If I get another one or replace the one I have it'll probably be a European, G870F, the same modell I had before.
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I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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stew1411 said:
When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Well it's soldered to the board. You would need some highly specialized equipment to do it. Even then I'm not sure.
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Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
Both are locked down. AT&T and Samsung are being jerks to us and not even letting us have a developer phone to try to use like Verizon had.
roserez said:
Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
FrozenClear said:
Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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You can look in Galaxy S5 Android Development.
I wanna purchase SD variant of s10+
Only g975W is available here
Can I flash g975U firmware on it by any mean or it is no go.
Ijaz Farooq said:
I wanna purchase SD variant of s10+
Only g975W is available here
Can I flash g975U firmware on it by any mean or it is no go.
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Should be good. Past W models of the Canadian snapdragon are identical hardware wise to the USA U models.
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Someone to help me. My S10+ is canadian, SM-975W unlocked from Fido. I was moved to US and can use phone with T- mobile. Because of my staying in US will be undefined, i will like reflash my phone and change from G975W to G975U (csc to US). I want to use fridja but no sure which firmware to download to keep my phone unlocked with the csc for US. Can anyone help on this side? Thank u
Cross flashing firmwares will brick your phone from what I have read here in the forums.
StoneyJSG said:
Cross flashing firmwares will brick your phone from what I have read here in the forums.
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W to U should be fine as there identical phones. When you sayn cross flashing firmwareI believe you mean Snapdragoon to Exynos Samsung phones not Snapdragon to Snapdragon or Canadian W to US U
It would be helpful to know if it is possible to root and install twrp on the latest firmware (sept 1st security update - pie) or if something changed to make the method described here incompatible. I have a 950F exynos with vietnam csc. I rooted both my Note 2 and Note 4, so i have some experience with rooting.
I am ready to root now as i want to install mods to improve the camera, but don't want to face a nightmare of a boot loop and ending up having to reinstall everything and still have no root, no twrp, or a bricked phone. I posted on the root thread but it seems dead. Can anyone with similar firmware who has recently rooted successfully shed light on the status of the root method? I'm on N950XXXS7DSHC. Thanks!
I have no problems at all with mine. N950F (Same as yours) converted to T-Mobile US N950U basically. While still having unlocked sim (Unlocked for any carrier), No bloatware and I did not do any camera mods. I have hads every note from the Note 3 to Note 9. So i have no issues with the stock camera. Only i changed was my CSC so i can get video calling, Caller ID etc. Still stock firmware 9.0, Don't care about Spay (Use google pay if i had to) and that's pretty much it. If you do root good luck.
Thanks for the response. Did you first root on the update i mentioned? In the root thread i read comments from people trying to root the first time after recent updates who got problems, boot loops. My question is to know if these updates change the root situation. When did you root your phone?
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I have no problems at all with mine. N950F (Same as yours) converted to T-Mobile US N950U basically. While still having unlocked sim (Unlocked for any carrier), No bloatware and I did not do any camera mods. I have hads every note from the Note 3 to Note 9. So i have no issues with the stock camera. Only i changed was my CSC so i can get video calling, Caller ID etc. Still stock firmware 9.0, Don't care about Spay (Use google pay if i had to) and that's pretty much it. If you do root good luck.
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How did you change your phone from a N950F to a N950U?
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BIGDADDYXXL said:
How did you change your phone from a N950F to a N950U?
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I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon SoC?
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I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon
Yes it does, I had a S8 that was a U1 and It was snapdragon. And from what I've read the software isn't interchangeable.
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SnowFuhrer said:
I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon
Yes it does, I had a S8 that was a U1 and It was snapdragon. And from what I've read the software isn't interchangeable.
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Yeh its not interchangeable. They may look the same, but software wise, they are 2 very different phones.
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Sorry for the late response guys. I did not convert my phone from a n950f to n950u. It still is a n950f exynos version not the Snapdragon one. only thing I have in the phone that is modified and I guess I'm the one reason I rooted the phone is so I can have the T-Mobile firmware on there cause I use MetroPCS (T-Mobile mvno). I still have two dual SIM function and I still have the international unlocked version compared to the US version where you have to get it unlocked or you have to pay to unlock or whichever. If that explains it.
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"if I didn't root or modified a phone I wouldn't be able to get it to work on MetroPCS or T-Mobile hundred percent correctly like I wanted it to. I could of left it how it came (stock) but I had to in a way root it to get past certain things anyways. And at the end of the day I don't mind a rooted or modified phone.
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Sorry for the late response guys. I did not convert my phone from a n950f to n950u. It still is a n950f exynos version not the Snapdragon one. only thing I have in the phone that is modified and I guess I'm the one reason I rooted the phone is so I can have the T-Mobile firmware on there cause I use MetroPCS (T-Mobile mvno). I still have two dual SIM function and I still have the international unlocked version compared to the US version where you have to get it unlocked or you have to pay to unlock or whichever. If that explains it.
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"if I didn't root or modified a phone I wouldn't be able to get it to work on MetroPCS or T-Mobile hundred percent correctly like I wanted it to. I could of left it how it came (stock) but I had to in a way root it to get past certain things anyways. And at the end of the day I don't mind a rooted or modified phone.
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The question I have is how did you do this? Also I am on cricket which is a at&t mvno and I want to be on there firmware, mine says that it is from uae and everything even Bixby is in European so weather is spoken in C° not F°. There are other stuff that irritates me.
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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I have tried to switch the Bixby alarm briefing to fearinhight and can't find where to do it.
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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Please excuse my persistence or lack of understanding but I'm not clear on your answer to the question I raised originally. You say your phone is the same as mine but not explicitly that you rooted after updating to the same firmware I'm running (N950XXXS7DSHC). I do know it was possible to root from earlier firmwares. If I hadn't updated and read anecdotal reports of serious problems trying to do it from the current firmware, I would have rooted my phone right away.
I know also that people make mistakes in rooting frequently, so reports of problems are not evidence that the root method doesn't work. Even with serious problems, there are often workarounds. The problem is the Dr. Ketan root thread seems inactive, so the last comments there all report problems that weren't answered, nor was my own question that I also posted there. I would just like confirmation from anyone who has rooted after updating to the current firmware. Did you root your phone on N950XXXS7DSHC? Sorry again if you thought you answered that.
Good question. Sorry
@Dumbo53 I was also looking for advice about this, but since no one seemed to really be giving a clear answer, I went with this. It's basically stock without all the issues of a custom ROM, while still having root. I wasn't willing to risk updating and not being able to root on the latest, so this was a good compromise.
Moving from the Googl ePixel to the S10 E and have a few questions
I will be running the Canadian variant with has the snap dragon chipset , are the roms compatible with it and which twrp do i use?
Also is there a debloating guide?
No root for that variant yet as it has a locked bootloader from what elliwigy here in the forums has said.
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No root for that variant yet as it has a locked bootloader from what elliwigy here in the forums has said.
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hmm Just found this in regards to TWRp which means boot loader can be unlocked https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxyS10Eqcom.html
I am willing to bet that's for the Hong Kong variant which is also snapdragon and can be bootloader unlocked.
You might wanna talk to @elliwigy about it, he's the guy that made root possible for the note 9. Here's a thread he participated in about rooting the Canadian variant.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/galaxy-s10-g975w-root-canada-t4023231
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I am willing to bet that's for the Hong Kong variant which is also snapdragon and can be bootloader unlocked.
You might wanna talk to @elliwigy about it, he's the guy that made root possible for the note 9. Here's a thread he participated in about rooting the Canadian variant.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/galaxy-s10-g975w-root-canada-t4023231
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Well crap looks like im going to have to get used to no root and no custom os ad will have to put up with the bloatware
dantexaiver said:
Well crap looks like im going to have to get used to no root and no custom os ad will have to put up with the bloatware
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Bloatware can be disabled, ad's can be blocked, don't worry i survived
peachpuff said:
Bloatware can be disabled, ad's can be blocked, don't worry i survived
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Thanks still going to take some getting used to being neutered or kneecapped :laugh: But here is hoping we get an unlock in the future
Not having root isn't so bad, although I do miss it. I have the Galaxy S10+ 975U model on the AT&T firmware. Most bloat can be disabled or uninstalled. You can also use the app CCSWE app manager to freeze apps like the dreaded forced automatic updates.
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Thanks still going to take some getting used to being neutered or kneecapped :laugh: But here is hoping we get an unlock in the future
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The snapdragon s9 got rooted recently but its that half assed root with 80% battery and i don't believe it has twrp or anything like that. Bootloader is still locked.
If you want to debloat use this free tool https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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The snapdragon s9 got rooted recently but its that half assed root with 80% battery and i don't believe it has twrp or anything like that. Bootloader is still locked.
If you want to debloat use this free tool https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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wait if you want root you have to sacrifice your battery? wtf
I forgot the details but i think you're basically installing some engineering firmware which has 20% of the battery disabled, so its not regular firmware but you do have root if you want. There's really no other option on american snapdragon phones, they're fully locked down, the chinese ones are unlocked but don't think they support all the lte bands.
If you want root get the international version, its easily rootable.
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I forgot the details but i think you're basically installing some engineering firmware which has 20% of the battery disabled, so its not regular firmware but you do have root if you want. There's really no other option on american snapdragon phones, they're fully locked down, the chinese ones are unlocked but don't think they support all the lte bands.
If you want root get the international version, its easily rootable.
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I fail to understand why the NA version would have its boot loader locked down and not be unlocked like the international version
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I forgot the details but i think you're basically installing some engineering firmware which has 20% of the battery disabled, so its not regular firmware but you do have root if you want. There's really no other option on american snapdragon phones, they're fully locked down, the chinese ones are unlocked but don't think they support all the lte bands.
If you want root get the international version, its easily rootable.
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Na phone was ordered yesterday and just got word it arrived at home , going to use it and hope one day we get a proper unlock and root
So set up the device tonight I'm probably 90% at where I want things to be.
So far disabling / uninstalling crapware has been some what easy
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I fail to understand why the NA version would have its boot loader locked down and not be unlocked like the international version
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Blame the us carriers, the European carriers don't care.