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Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
But that it doesn't seem to work... Because we need a kernel that let us to do this... Also, someone said it's not .grp and it's .gpu!
I'm really confused with that. So, let me know your experiences and let's discuss about this... Just imagine that you can play a lot of 3D apps much faster than you do right now... With a NAND build, we can hopefully get a functional Android on Topaz (Comparable to LEO)
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking
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That's related to overclocking the CPU... I'm talking about GPU (Graphic Processing Unit) which is different.
Black.Heart said:
Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
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No so good, these results only because these devices have QVGA screens.
I seen even 37.9fps on my Polaris w/o GPU overclocks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6807328&postcount=67
For our devices better way is decrease resolution like 240x400.
I found a lot of build.prop and init.d tweaks which were supposedly generic .
I tested a few build.prop and init.d tweaks with XZ ,but i'm confused about these two init.d tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172673
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353903
OP says it can be used for any device but when i read through the scripts they seemed specific to only certain devices.
Can anyone clear this up...
venky716 said:
OP says it can be used for any device but when i read through the scripts they seemed specific to only certain devices.
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Some work on some devices but not on others, pretty much trial and error these days.
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Some work on some devices but not on others, pretty much trial and error these days.
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Oh ok.
Then could u suggest me a tweak like loopy or cosmic for XZ?
I've applied pretty much all the basic build.prop and init.d tweaks looking for something to speed up my XZ a bit more.
PS: I see all these tweaks in phone specific forums, why isn't anyone doing it for XZ
I just looked briefly through those mods and for me most of them are just placebo's. Since ICS most of the build.prop tweaks are just placebo's that will either work or not work depending how Android is compiled. And if they 'work' most of them just doesn't do anything. For instance, there was build.prop tweak in there to enable 3G or HSPA, but those are already enabled by default. This build.prop tweak will only show the difference between those speeds with a notification bar icon. Also the wifi tweaks can break a stable connection to your ap.
Just remmeber this; if a tweak is that good and stable enough, why wouldn't a developer at Sony or another company implement it in the stock rom? Do you think they want to only screw with you and your device? Making it slower on purpose? And why didn't CM include those tweaks? Because it's just a placebo. Both of them will (try) release the most stable and fast solution there is and not screw with you or your phone.
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I just looked briefly through those mods and for me most of them are just placebo's. Since ICS most of the build.prop tweaks are just placebo's that will either work or not work depending how Android is compiled. And if they 'work' most of them just doesn't do anything. For instance, there was build.prop tweak in there to enable 3G or HSPA, but those are already enabled by default. This build.prop tweak will only show the difference between those speeds with a notification bar icon. Also the wifi tweaks can break a stable connection to your ap.
Just remmeber this; if a tweak is that good and stable enough, why wouldn't a developer at Sony or another company implement it in the stock rom? Do you think they want to only screw with you and your device? Making it slower on purpose? And why didn't CM include those tweaks? Because it's just a placebo. Both of them will (try) release the most stable and fast solution there is and not screw with you or your phone.
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Ya i had that feeling too that's y i went through a lot of threads about these tweaks before implementing them, but i have to say few of them did work wonders and increased smoothness and battery life. Like these:
Build.prop-
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
debug.performance.tuning=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
Thats y i'm not skeptical anymore and want to squeeze out how much ever i can out of XZ. So i ask if anyone knows any good tweaks compatible with XZ?
venky716 said:
Ya i had that feeling too that's y i went through a lot of threads about these tweaks before implementing them, but i have to say few of them did work wonders and increased smoothness and battery life. Like these:
Build.prop-
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
debug.performance.tuning=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
Thats y i'm not skeptical anymore and want to squeeze out how much ever i can out of XZ. So i ask if anyone knows any good tweaks compatible with XZ?
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can please elaborate what does each do?
i found this small tweaks here for the Z, not sure how much better did it work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237066&highlight=buildprop
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can please elaborate what does each do?
i found this small tweaks here for the Z, not sure how much better did it work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237066&highlight=buildprop
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Thanks I've added those to build.prop already
pm.sleep_mode=1 - enables deep sleep when idle
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0 - switches off the cpu cores when idle,there are 4 other modes (1,2,3,4,5) each has different ways to switch off the cores 0 is the most battery friendly as it does it asap.
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1- locks launcher in memory
debug.performance.tuning=1 - improves touch responsiveness
video.accelerate.hw=1- smooth video playback
there are a lots more http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29627835
This is an excellent resource for build.prop tweaks that debunks almost all the myths regarding the tweaks people put in them: http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/ and http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-android-ics-comprehensive-guide-part-2/.
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Thanks I've added those to build.prop already
pm.sleep_mode=1 - enables deep sleep when idle
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0 - switches off the cpu cores when idle,there are 4 other modes (1,2,3,4,5) each has different ways to switch off the cores 0 is the most battery friendly as it does it asap.
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1- locks launcher in memory
debug.performance.tuning=1 - improves touch responsiveness
video.accelerate.hw=1- smooth video playback
there are a lots more http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29627835
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Sorry but you're pretty much wrong on everyone of those..
Pm sleep mode hadn't worked since gingerbread
Ril is radio interface layer. That hack was supposed to enable a low power mode for radio. It never worked.
Home app was discontinued in ics
Debug the modern version is already in build prop
As is video accelerate
So they are just placebo
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fards said:
Sorry but you're pretty much wrong on everyone of those..
Pm sleep mode hadn't worked since gingerbread
Ril is radio interface layer. That hack was supposed to enable a low power mode for radio. It never worked.
Home app was discontinued in ics
Debug the modern version is already in build prop
As is video accelerate
So they are just placebo
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I've already come across those articles when i was searching around, after reading through a lot of such blogs i went ahead and decided to test the tweaks.
Placebo or whatever it may be i did see a difference and most importantly they didn't seem to cause any problems so whats the harm.
I have to mention one thing though, as i found a lot of articles against the working of build.prop tweaks i couldn't manage to find anything against init.d ones so does that mean those tweaks work ?
No. Just because they are in a different place doesn't mean they are going to work.. This is not magic... this isn't apple...
We have source code it's very easy to find out what could and couldn't work...
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I've already come across those articles when i was searching around, after reading through a lot of such blogs i went ahead and decided to test the tweaks.
Placebo or whatever it may be i did see a difference and most importantly they didn't seem to cause any problems so whats the harm.
I have to mention one thing though, as i found a lot of articles against the working of build.prop tweaks i couldn't manage to find anything against init.d ones so does that mean those tweaks work ?
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Let me sell you my range of magic butterfly badges, artfully curved and imbued with all manner of secrets unknown to most.
people swear they make a difference, others don't see anything, but hey they don't hurt(unless of course you stab yourself in frustration with them repeatedly, after prolonged exposure to the sheer stupidity exhibited by most of the human race).
I'm calling them plah_sae_bows.
If there is *no code* to do respond to these calls you are putting in , then they can't make any difference.
Do you know a few years ago some of us made some of these up?
Completely fictitious and people still insisted that made a difference?
ro.bollocks.enable.large =true
That one really make your device go into 'hero mode' a hitherto undocumented mode that increases speed. Saves lives and give you wings ..
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Guys question, how to add that to build.prop? any threads on how to's?
What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
EDIT: Version 1.1 Change log
*Nothing new just made the interactive governor as a default rather than performance governor due to heating concern.
*Checked the code so that 2D GPU is set to 520 MHz too, in case it still reports half let me know..
EDIT: Version 1.2 Change Log
***Added requested LBCMT (LastBootCpuMaximumTemperature!) This shows the maximum temperature your device went during last boot.
***Added apply on boot (Works only when the USB device with at least a single file is detected to ensure you don't intentionally mess up anywhere )
The LBCMT will works as soon as you boot once after you open the app for the first time. Also note that YOU SHOULD NOT KILL THE APP manually by task killers or the reporting will be fake. BEWARE....
EDIT: Version 1.3 Change LOG
***Full screen stretched resolution support for CM11 Rom users. Use the special newly added resolution (will only work for CM users currently as no other 4.3 or 4.4 Roms available)
Fixes for temp not showing on custom kernel like EPRJ Kernel.
Thank you for being patient.
Kingshoo said:
What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
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now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
Awesome, finally the OUYA version, im about to jump on this right now and give it a spin!!!:good:
darkknight1812 said:
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
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i asked before install...now i saw it very nice and user friendly
.. one click optimization .. nice job .. cheers
sasuke1981 said:
now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
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Just Press the OK button and wait a few seconds as the settings getting applied. After that Run your Emulator Games and you should notice a difference . Note that Resolution options also cuts the screen area so use them only if a game is unplayable!
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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it's understandable for the lil guy to get hot quickly when you are overclocking the GPU+CPU, can't expected to run cool unless you put a better cooling fan into you console, i don't mid my ouya running a lil hot, well mines don't get hot enough cause my ouya got a acrylic custom shell with enough vents and airflow that keeps my console way cooler then the ouya stock/factory shell...
its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
Excellent!
I'll give this a bash tonight and see what improvements there are!
Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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Actually Temperatures are no problem for this chip as it can bear temperatures of 70 C with great ease as the manufacturer mentioned. Don't worry about that also let me know if they are above this temperature so that we can do something about that. If you ask me I am comfortable with 85C as that is what the throttle temperatures (Default mind you!). Just Relax and crush the games already
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its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
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The custom CPU clock feature conflict the one click feature and not to mention lower clocks are not required as there is no trouble with the highest speed since the cooling is active and with sink. Just don't worry about the temps too much as everything is normal here and the purpose of console is to bear high temperatures with high load even with little heat management..
I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). @Kingshoo, can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
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I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). Can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
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Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
Kingshoo said:
Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
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Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
After reading several reviews about Noctua 40x10mm A-Series Blades with AAO Frame, SSO2 Bearing Premium Retail Cooling Fan NF-A4x10, I decided to buy it. I replaced the noisy fan of my OUYA, and the difference in sound is amazing. I had to check if the fan was actually running because barely hear it. Also, the temperature of my equipment dropped ~ 10°C, so overheating issues could be easily fixed, if you decided to overclock. I recommend this product without a doubt. Check on eBay or Amazon.
If you want to replace the fan, here's a guide how to do it. youtube . com /watch?v=rra0FwlHvBA
Well honestly I wasn't able to play games on OUYA but since you people are playing games what the temps of CPU are anyways after say an hour? I am asking this because I don't see a need for custom coolers as 50C or 70C it really don't make any difference to your hardware. Yes the fan noise may be concerning to many but I have cotton plugs in my ears to keep it silent (these really costs cents and not $$!). OK so newer version will have interactive on one click..
My stock fan is totally silent anyway
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Ipse_Tase said:
Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
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i will also try this, i run my OUYA on performance all the time and it's pretty loud...
I have spent crazy amount of time tuning my Galaxy S5 G900F running the latest CM13 release with the stable Boeffla kernel and I finally think I totally mastered the performance level at perfect stability without any overheating issues or crashes.
I just got a splendid 64676 score from the latest antutu benchmark! That is way higher than any old 32bit Snapdragon 801 device has ever gotten and the RAM and I/O performance is just ridiculous that beats much newer and more expensive phones.
This is enabling me to play VP9 videos at 1080p completely smooth without any drop in quality or FPS. The best part is that the phone newer overheats or lags. I can run some serious multitasking and download at least 8 files simultaneously from 8 multi-threads at blistering speed including complex merging, decoding and encoding procedures just fine and using the phone for common tasks in the meantime.
For those who want to be able to shoot 60 FPS 720p videos get the Snap Camera HDR app and with correct settings that will be quite possible. Just let me know if you need instructions how to set it up properly.
I included a screen shot of the benchmark score.
Can you post your boeffla setup?
Sure thing just need a moment to figure out the best way to show my setup.
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Sure thing just need a moment to figure out the best way to show my setup.
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You can share your boeffla file(setup), or post screenshots, thanks.
Just to be certain I'm gonna give this setup and little reliability test run until tomorrow so I won't be sharing a wolf in a sheep costume to you guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/elite-performance-t3498430/post69602961
New high score record for the S5 with the 3.3 kernel running CM13. Going to try CM14.1 next.
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New high score record for the S5 with the 3.3 kernel running CM13. Going to try CM14.1 next.
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Damn, good job!
Here is a link to my Setup Demonstration YouTube video where I show the tweaks I've done to improve the performance of my phone:
I uninstalled the AdClear app because it just was too recourse demanding and network speed trap. Instead I installed the latest version of AdAway and configured it so ads in all the apps including MX Player successfully and free of VPN and system load. I attached screenshot of the configuration.
So why did you remove the video?
How did you enabled the [email protected]? @Ragnar Eldur
Hah oh problem with my account, remind me what I was saying, long time ago.
Hi guys.
I'm here because I did some edits in Leeco thermal-confs and I got a very good return!
Now, in kernel auditor, I can maintain the BIG Cores high speed fixed in 1800MHz and all cores on (and I can change when I want) and the LITTLE Cores high speed fixed in 1400MHz.
No more slowdowns using the interface, no more lagging and throttling in games. I tested Shadow Fight 3, Real Racing 3, Dead Trigger 2 and everything is running a lot better.
But, obviously, I'm getting some heat using the smartphone for longs periods. The temperature are about 44~50ºC. But still usable to me.
If you want to know the steps that I did, I can create a little tutorial... But I will just create if more people agree with this modification...
do it bro! i want to know what you did.
Yeah bro please provide the solution because i am fed up with throttling in eui
Yeah sure make it, the more guides and possible combination we have, the better it is..... there will always be people who will find this useful one time or another.....
yeah thats great but i need to play PUBg just fluently on smooth graphics......
Which file did you edit? are you talking about the "therm ***. conf" file located in "/ System / etc"? and on which version of android did you make the change? can you give me more information on what files to edit? Thanks in advance