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Yesterday my 6515 stopped cooperate with me! Totally!
- I didn't dropped him or physically damaged,
- The battery was charged in 85% just before it was switched off itself
- Back cover closed with no gaps between cover and body
- Was fully functional when suddenly switched off
- I didn't upgraded anythihng before.
Symptoms:
- Ipaq is not reacting on start button
- Not reacting on reset
- Not reacting on hard reset
- The left diode blinking red during charging via usb cradle when I’m pressing power up button
- The same happens with regular charger
- During charging with regular charger when I’m opening the back panel the diode stop blink and become flash continuously in red.
I have already tried almost everything to start it up:
Changed the battery,
Open, close the back battery panel
With and without SD card
Appreciate any HELP!
small update
Ok I have made some progress..
Now I can see the bootloader screen and that's it.
What to do next ???
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
cluurk said:
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
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Thanks for reply
Indeed! When I opened back cover the led become flash continuously!
I have tried to apply the rom update from HP unfortunately all of the updates have to be done through Active sync!
It is impossible in current situation because of pressing Power+Joystick+Reset the ootloader screen appear but then nothing This is happens only when PDA is charging with regular charger. Using USB charge or battery power I can't even start the bootloader screen.
From where can I download the SD bootable image or how to make it?
And again small step ahead:
Hi
And again small step ahead:
In craddle there is another input for power so I managed to power it up and connect.
I had to switch of firewall (otherwise i have error 601 - unable to connect the device or something simmillar) and reinstall Active sync back to 3.8
Got bootloader screen USB and hp logo and v 021
by running romupdate utility downloaded from hp site ( whatever the version is ) I finally recognized my model version: it is 6515c
Next
Found valid version from HP site for 6515c ( i think 1.21) and successfully upgraded. No breaks, no other issues just successfully uploadede into finish.
Then hard reset and......
The system starts, screen flashes up, system start loading and the screen fading out. ... and again ..... and again ...... and again and the nothing!
I have tried again to pull out back cover, remove batery, put it back after some time, place back the cover and again.
Nothin' Nada Null %$#@%!$#ing piece of junk.
BTW it is happening only where PDA it is connected to AC power. On battery system is not booting, no booloader nothing!
Any suggestions? Pleeeeeeeease!
After you upgraded the firmware and it started up, was this done with the pda on AC or battery power? If its on battery and it starts fading, your battery is probably screwed. Did you also know there are 2 batteries in the IPaq?
Oh and if its a battery problem, you will need to leave the battery+pda connected to the AC for a while before it can startup and probably into booloader. Run your firmware upgrade again and power it on with the AC connected! If it boots up fine, then monitor the battery status bars in the Power settings and see if both the LiIon and NiMh batteries are holding charge. Hopefully from here you can find a dead battery.
Another thing you could try is to reset the battery when in bootloader mode once you are certain its the battery
http://blogs.unbolt.net/index.php/brinley/2006/08/02/howto_reset_discharged_battery_for_ipaq_6515
Battery reset? Could might be the issue?
Hi
I really appreciate your response.
The whole upgrade and the other stuff have been done with inserted battery and AC connected.
I plugged the PDA into the cradle which was connected to PC via USB and I plugged also AC into the cradle AC input.
It is fading just after reboot only when the iPAQ is connected to AC power (of course battery is inserted otherwise it will not startup anyway.)
On pure battery power it doesn’t giving any signs of living whatever button has been pressed.
The link you provided might contain very valuable directions to me. The man is learning within whole life and dying still being stupid.
I thought that I read the info from the site you suggested but I probably missed the meaning of the post regarding battery reset. That might be this. I will check and update you very soon.
I did the steps from above link. The iPAQ rebooted, started to load the os and again faded out….
Question to everybody:
During bootloader screen appear should I have any diode flashing blinking or whatever
I’m asking because of mine is blind!
Nothing is flashing, blinking, beaming or shining. Just two, completely dead diodes.
Hi, I've just found out what flashing red means
"green blinking means GSM coverage, yellow blinking - missed reminder or alarm clock signal, permanent yellow - recharging, green - the battery is full, red blinking means greatly discharged battery, pale blue blinking - Bluetooth is on"
I think one of your batteries is dead, and if you have already replaced to LiIon battery then you'll probably have to try to replace the NiMh one inside. I cant think of anything else to try
Battery????
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
If I recall correctly, the charging led does not light up in bootloader mode. I maybe wrong though. I think you should try to check the voltage in the LiIon battery to determine if they are being charged.
Also you never mentioned checking the backup NiMh battery. I believe that the NiMh battery is required to power up of the ipaq as well so it may be the cause of your ipaq dying after starting up.
NiMh backup battery
Fortunately I know someone who can charge the battery for me. There will be no problem with that.
From the other side I'm worry about the phone charging....
Why I can't charge the battery using iPAQ?
Next you mentioned about "NiMh battery". I'm sorry for my ignorance but what is that?
Is it secondary battery ?????
Is there any way to charge or replace it? Is it pluggable battery? Where is located?
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
cluurk said:
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
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You don't need to touch that one, this battery is designed for save your data when you exchange the main battery.
commanddos said:
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
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Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
watchsat said:
Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
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Well Well Well ..... it is getting wormer. Many thanks to everyone who are still trying to help me out. Thanks again.
Is that mean the secondary battery is located under the keyboard? I saw the photos from unassembled 6515 and it looks like the secondary battery. To replace it you have to first remove 3 screws, unplug the LCD and remove whole main board.
Is that means that the charging circuit has been built in the keyboard plate?
Thank You all. Patient died......
I would like to thank everyone for help. I think we can close this thread over here.
My beetle just went out into the "digital heaven".
The HP support specialist ensured me (without any tips or hints from my side) that mainly there is a problem with passing the power from the charger to the battery which means no more no less like ".... dude your motherboard is screwed. You have to get the new one or whatever...!"
So now it is a time for selling the rest of the parts on auctions......
R.I.P (Rust In Peace)
if the red light blinks
1 your battery has problem
or
2 your battery cover has problem. The plastic part on the back of your battery cover may have broken which touchs the microswith on the mainboard.
if that microswitch is not triggered , the hw65xx,hw69xx will not turn on.
my battery died completely and i put it on charge but it wont boot up when i press the power button a red light flashes but wont boot. any advice with whats going on? have i damaged my battery/phone
have you left it for a while? also try pulling the battery out and then putting it back in, then sticking it on charge.
artesea said:
have you left it for a while? also try pulling the battery out and then putting it back in, then sticking it on charge.
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yep tryed it .. theres a red light on the power button whats that about?
Have you tried removing the charger and battery, then plug the charger back in, wait a few seconds, then put the battery back in (with the charger still connected). This usually solves the ol' red light/no power issue on my hermes. I only normally have to do this though if I accidently let the battery run completely flat.
Other than that, a red flashing LED when the power button is pressed on a sony ericsson device usually indicates an error. The LED flashes error codes based on either hardware or flash problems/errors... though I don't know if this will apply in this case on the basis its completely different hardware/software to "standard" SE devices.
hmm now the red is on constant on the power button i tryed the few things you guys mentioned but no luck maybe it need s a good charge again.. DOHHHH!!
i flicked throught he manual there is no detail about what the red light on the power button means
Hmmm - on my Wizard when the battery went flat I couldn't use a USB cable from the computer I had to charge it from the Wall socket. Your Xperia should have come with a normal plug to plug into a wall socket (you attach your USB cable to that).
why not call the X1 support?
after overnight charging there was no change, so i manged to boot it in flash mode let it on charge for a few min then i reset the phone and bingo it rebooted.. woooohoo
I followed your instructions.
But I cannot boot in flash mode (4colour) even though I charged it for a while, then press and hold Volume Down + Power together.
The illumination lights just flash and turn off.
Is it always like that? If you leave your phone with totally no power in the battery you can not start it later, or you have problems starting it?
I ask because I saw a couple of topics for that issue in the forum. Does everyone have this problem or it's for some devices only?
Do you use the origin SE-charger? I had the problem once and used the charger of the diamond from my wife since I was too lazy going up into the arttic searching for the carton. But the charger of the Diamond has too few ampere, so the battery of the Xperia didn't received enough power. Even using the USB-port of the computer didn't worked well.
So try using the origin charger and also don't let the battery get too low.
aah, I use the original charger of SE X1.
The Cause of problem:
+ I set the alarm. After it had notified, it still snoozed and ran out of battery.
+ I didn't know the current phone without power when I woke up. I turned it on and it had to used little power left inside (the saved power - I guess). From that point, X1 cannot be charged even you plug it all day and all night - different with other phones.
(My Cingular 8125 can be charged after 24hours charging continously).
* Any X1 and other PDA using window CE can suffer that problem.
The Solution:
* For other phones: just plug wallcharge in, after 24hours, it can be charged.
* For X1: You have to come to BOOT MODE (4colours)
(but if doing like above posts, you cannot come to boot mode with no power inside battery)
1. Remove the battery.
2. Plug to wallcharge.
3. Hold the volume Down + Power buttons.
4. Still keeping hold those 2 buttons in one hand, another put the batter back inside.
5. Wait until it turns into Boot Mode, released them and charge in 15 minutes (to make sure that it would receive a little power)
6. Remove the battery and plug back. Restart in Normal Mode and charge it.
* It is my experience after many trials in 9 crazy hours
Thank you for that useful post. It's good to know that there is a way out of that situation.
pekvocey said:
aah, I use the original charger of SE X1.
The Cause of problem:
+ I set the alarm. After it had notified, it still snoozed and ran out of battery.
+ I didn't know the current phone without power when I woke up. I turned it on and it had to used little power left inside (the saved power - I guess). From that point, X1 cannot be charged even you plug it all day and all night - different with other phones.
(My Cingular 8125 can be charged after 24hours charging continously).
* Any X1 and other PDA using window CE can suffer that problem.
The Solution:
* For other phones: just plug wallcharge in, after 24hours, it can be charged.
* For X1: You have to come to BOOT MODE (4colours)
(but if doing like above posts, you cannot come to boot mode with no power inside battery)
1. Remove the battery.
2. Plug to wallcharge.
3. Hold the volume Down + Power buttons.
4. Still keeping hold those 2 buttons in one hand, another put the batter back inside.
5. Wait until it turns into Boot Mode, released them and charge in 15 minutes (to make sure that it would receive a little power)
6. Remove the battery and plug back. Restart in Normal Mode and charge it.
* It is my experience after many trials in 9 crazy hours
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Thanx man! I'd same problem and solved it by your guides.
pekvocey said:
aah, I use the original charger of SE X1.
The Cause of problem:
+ I set the alarm. After it had notified, it still snoozed and ran out of battery.
+ I didn't know the current phone without power when I woke up. I turned it on and it had to used little power left inside (the saved power - I guess). From that point, X1 cannot be charged even you plug it all day and all night - different with other phones.
(My Cingular 8125 can be charged after 24hours charging continously).
* Any X1 and other PDA using window CE can suffer that problem.
The Solution:
* For other phones: just plug wallcharge in, after 24hours, it can be charged.
* For X1: You have to come to BOOT MODE (4colours)
(but if doing like above posts, you cannot come to boot mode with no power inside battery)
1. Remove the battery.
2. Plug to wallcharge.
3. Hold the volume Down + Power buttons.
4. Still keeping hold those 2 buttons in one hand, another put the batter back inside.
5. Wait until it turns into Boot Mode, released them and charge in 15 minutes (to make sure that it would receive a little power)
6. Remove the battery and plug back. Restart in Normal Mode and charge it.
* It is my experience after many trials in 9 crazy hours
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yeah omg,
thx for this this should be a sticky
i was listening to my music and got an notification that my battery is low, not even 2 minutes later my phone went off
and couldn't put it back on. the weird part is that the 10 prcnt of power drains that fast my music isn't loud (via media xperia panel - phone volume was 100% but music player was full for 2-3 blocks)
but anyway, thx
pek, you're a star. flawless fix.
When my wife's X1i run out of power completely two weeks ago I also first tried to use the original SE charger. No effect after 6 hours charge.
Next I tried my lab power supply which can provide 5V/3A current. It took less than an hour to charge the phone making it fully workable.
My car's charger can fully charge X1 from 20% battery to 100% in less than 45 minutes. 2A maximum current restricted. Fast charge seems have no influence on battery's life.
Also if you have a wall charger for X1 battery you can charge it outside the phone for some time (20 minutes usually enough). Also works.
pekvocey said:
aah, I use the original charger of SE X1.
The Cause of problem:
+ I set the alarm. After it had notified, it still snoozed and ran out of battery.
+ I didn't know the current phone without power when I woke up. I turned it on and it had to used little power left inside (the saved power - I guess). From that point, X1 cannot be charged even you plug it all day and all night - different with other phones.
(My Cingular 8125 can be charged after 24hours charging continously).
* Any X1 and other PDA using window CE can suffer that problem.
The Solution:
* For other phones: just plug wallcharge in, after 24hours, it can be charged.
* For X1: You have to come to BOOT MODE (4colours)
(but if doing like above posts, you cannot come to boot mode with no power inside battery)
1. Remove the battery.
2. Plug to wallcharge.
3. Hold the volume Down + Power buttons.
4. Still keeping hold those 2 buttons in one hand, another put the batter back inside.
5. Wait until it turns into Boot Mode, released them and charge in 15 minutes (to make sure that it would receive a little power)
6. Remove the battery and plug back. Restart in Normal Mode and charge it.
* It is my experience after many trials in 9 crazy hours
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Hi thanks for you help but unfortunatly i tried your method but it simply goes back into the Constant red light power button mode even though i have been charging it for hours
this thread is a life savior for all X1 users! thx!
pekvocey said:
aah, I use the original charger of SE X1.
The Cause of problem:
+ I set the alarm. After it had notified, it still snoozed and ran out of battery.
+ I didn't know the current phone without power when I woke up. I turned it on and it had to used little power left inside (the saved power - I guess). From that point, X1 cannot be charged even you plug it all day and all night - different with other phones.
(My Cingular 8125 can be charged after 24hours charging continously).
* Any X1 and other PDA using window CE can suffer that problem.
The Solution:
* For other phones: just plug wallcharge in, after 24hours, it can be charged.
* For X1: You have to come to BOOT MODE (4colours)
(but if doing like above posts, you cannot come to boot mode with no power inside battery)
1. Remove the battery.
2. Plug to wallcharge.
3. Hold the volume Down + Power buttons.
4. Still keeping hold those 2 buttons in one hand, another put the batter back inside.
5. Wait until it turns into Boot Mode, released them and charge in 15 minutes (to make sure that it would receive a little power)
6. Remove the battery and plug back. Restart in Normal Mode and charge it.
* It is my experience after many trials in 9 crazy hours
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Thanks for sharing this. Should stick it.
HI friends, pleeeeease can anyone help me with my lovely X1.
so everyone knows that when we pulloff the battery, a red light under poweron switch appear and permanently of course.
i have had a problem with the poweron button, the phone was turning it self on, so i decide to replace the button.
now the probleme sloved, but now i have bigger probleme wich is charging probleme, i left the phone charging for few hours but it does not chargin, i changed the cable, and the charger it self but nothing new; and then i figureout somthing...when i pull the battery off, there is now red light the used to be under poweron button, when i plug the cable, the red light blink just for 2times and then its gone.
just for let you know
battery --- ok
battery connector ---ok
charger ---ok
usb cable -----ok
4 light on sides blinking ----ok
i am sure it is a hardware problem.
hello.. i also have a same sitution has u are... cannot charge the battey.. when i pluq mini usb without battery inside they are red light under power button.. when i insert battery it still red light.. some time i off aboat 10 second red light show again.. i am so frusting.. now i just put the x1 in the frame..
get from some where a mini-usb charger at 1 amp and give it 5-10 minutes , sounds like the battery is totaly drained
So i was playing games on my xperia Z and heated up a little ( it usually does ) and then i closed everything and plugged in the charger and switched it off. I let it charge till 90% and i unplugged it. When i unplugged it charging light (notification light) didn't go away. So i hard reset it (power button + up volume) and phone switched off and charging light went away. But after that it is completely dead . Hard reset doesn't work neither does power button. Doesn't even go in a fastboot mode. Phone is 2.5 years old.
Some info:
bootloader unlocked.
rooted.
Rom: Resurrection 5.8.1 (7.1.1).
Can anybody tell me what's the solution ? Is the hardware broken somehow ?
EDIT: Now after few days when i connect phone to a laptop or charger red light comes up for 10-15 seconds and fades away.
I have a funny experience back then
Same problem like you. Phone suddenly dead, can't charge, if connected to computer has only 10 sec of red light and then dissapear.
The funny thing is, the battery connector was disconnected by itself.
Couple days before this happen, I changed my old battery to a new one.
Then I realized that maybe because I did not properly place the battery connector while changing the battery. lol.
Zerikwan said:
I have a funny experience back then
Same problem like you. Phone suddenly dead, can't charge, if connected to computer has only 10 sec of red light and then dissapear.
The funny thing is, the battery connector was disconnected by itself.
Couple days before this happen, I changed my old battery to a new one.
Then I realized that maybe because I did not properly place the battery connector while changing the battery. lol.
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So should i buy a new battery or open it up and see if the battery connector is disconnected ? And is the battery of c6602 and c6603 same ?
Really appreciate your help
Burhan777 said:
So should i buy a new battery or open it up and see if the battery connector is disconnected ? And is the battery of c6602 and c6603 same ?
Really appreciate your help
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you can open the back cover to see if it just the connector problem or not before buying a new battery
note that you are responsible for your own action on your device.
I think its the same, because the different on both device are just LTE network.
Zerikwan said:
you can open the back cover to see if it just the connector problem or not before buying a new battery
note that you are responsible for your own action on your device.
I think its the same, because the different on both device are just LTE network.
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Sure i am responsible. i will open it up in few days and inform you of progress.
Hello Team, any one have got issues with MI MAX2 , as one day it switched off while playing mindcraft game , battery went low, now even if I charge with multiple devices, their is no charging light or if if you hold power button it wont power on. No Mi Logo...
Tried volume up/down combination , tried to connect all the connector's , still same issue..
One thing noticed while charging , the adapter wont heat up , nor any component on the mobile like battery , which was happening in normal working condition
Tried EDL (Emergency Download) , no response on PC device manager.
Please suggest....
Alok 007 said:
Hello Team, any one have got issues with MI MAX2 , as one day it switched off while playing mindcraft game , battery went low, now even if I charge with multiple devices, their is no charging light or if if you hold power button it wont power on. No Mi Logo...
Tried volume up/down combination , tried to connect all the connector's , still same issue..
One thing noticed while charging , the adapter wont heat up , nor any component on the mobile like battery , which was happening in normal working condition
Tried EDL (Emergency Download) , no response on PC device manager.
Please suggest....
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I would recommend a very long charging session ( over night ) because if battery switches off caused of low power, it is very slow in recharge.
RayfG said:
I would recommend a very long charging session ( over night ) because if battery switches off caused of low power, it is very slow in recharge.
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I tried to keep for 2 days , same issue.
Today I tried with new charging board, their is same issue, no power , no charging, no heat. 5 v is present during charging on main board.
Charging circuit
Any one is having the details for charging circuit on Main board , how to test ?
Same problem here, you got any luck?
Happened 2nd time, first time I connected it to xiaomi power bank and it started charging, but this time no luck with that method
(it could be that it was pure luck/coincidence)
segregator said:
Same problem here, you got any luck?
Happened 2nd time, first time I connected it to xiaomi power bank and it started charging, but this time no luck with that method
(it could be that it was pure luck/coincidence)
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I am unable to find the power IC part number as PCB is bonded with metal cover, I need to remove and check further , I did checked other component with millimeter its fine and getting normal battery voltage, I tried new battery and charging PCB, no luck , no power light on mobile or charger is heating, hence suspecting power IC failure , trying to source it to replace it my self.
Alok 007 said:
I am unable to find the power IC part number as PCB is bonded with metal cover, I need to remove and check further , I did checked other component with millimeter its fine and getting normal battery voltage, I tried new battery and charging PCB, no luck , no power light on mobile or charger is heating, hence suspecting power IC failure , trying to source it to replace it my self.
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I solved my problem...it was software...it seems it (wrongly) detected that battery is totally empty, and entered some kind of "refresh battery" mode.
I used USB voltage/current meter and noticed that it didn't charge at all for 2h (0A), then went through 3 phases: 0.46/0.32/0.13A, and after about 48h
I was able to power it on. Can't tell exactly how long each phase lasted, as I wasn't checking all time
segregator said:
I solved my problem...it was software...it seems it (wrongly) detected that battery is totally empty, and entered some kind of "refresh battery" mode.
I used USB voltage/current meter and noticed that it didn't charge at all for 2h (0A), then went through 3 phases: 0.46/0.32/0.13A, and after about 48h
I was able to power it on. Can't tell exactly how long each phase lasted, as I wasn't checking all time
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Thank you for the updates, may I know which model you have used USB voltage/current meter ?
Alok 007 said:
Thank you for the updates, may I know which model you have used USB voltage/current meter ?
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Similar to the one used in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ4B72Qy9Q
Mi Max 2
I have the same problem and happens yesterday. How did you fix the problem...?
i just encountered this same problem. its been plugged in, but not charging
I am having similar issue with no response and sometime it response to power button and button combinations but turn off right before starting.it's rom issue I felt in first place but now I feel I bricked it. Any solution
I also encountered the same problem, but I quickly solved it. I made a video to share with you