I've read that Snapdragon 835 performs better in the Note8 than the Exynos chip so I'm interested in getting Snapdragon... so long as it has an unlocked bootloader.
I know for the regular S8 phones you can get the Hong Kong edition that comes with the 835 and an unlocked bootloader... does anyone know if that's still the case with the Note8?
samlazaz said:
I've read that Snapdragon 835 performs better in the Note8 than the Exynos chip so I'm interested in getting Snapdragon... so long as it has an unlocked bootloader.
I know for the regular S8 phones you can get the Hong Kong edition that comes with the 835 and an unlocked bootloader... does anyone know if that's still the case with the Note8?
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I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
Ry2mkk said:
I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
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Generally true but in this case the Snapdragon slightly edges the Exynos in performance (benchmarks) but Exynos showing better efficiency.
They are very close though, not something anyone would be able to notice.
To answer the question I doubt we will see a Snapdragon unlock but I certainly hope so.
milan187 said:
Generally true but in this case the Snapdragon slightly edges the Exynos in performance (benchmarks) but Exynos showing better efficiency.
They are very close though, not something anyone would be able to notice.
To answer the question I doubt we will see a Snapdragon unlock but I certainly hope so.
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All the benchmarks i have seen this isnt the case ? Could you provide a link ?
https://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-note-8-benchmarks-hint-at-something-interesting-14494981/
Its the same as how it was with the Galaxy S8 and S8+...Exynos performed better.
smiley45 said:
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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Hi, sorry but you're wrong. In my country (Algeria) all band it's cdma and all Samsung (like s8 or note 8) have exynos and work like a charm. I speak about original Samsung house. And of course I have the note 8 exynos and for me it's better than snapdragon... So exynos it's compatible with gsm and cdma
Lykeul said:
Hi, sorry but you're wrong. In my country (Algeria) all band it's cdma and all Samsung (like s8 or note 8) have exynos and work like a charm. I speak about original Samsung house. And of course I have the note 8 exynos and for me it's better than snapdragon... So exynos it's compatible with gsm and cdma
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None of the networks in Algeria (Djezzy, Mobilis or Ooredoo) use CDMA, they're all GSM based.
murtaza02 said:
None of the networks in Algeria (Djezzy, Mobilis or Ooredoo) use CDMA, they're all GSM based.
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Of course but all phone is CDMA compatible and exynos
He speaking about phone he say exynos don't support CDMA
smiley45 said:
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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I had an unlocked Int'l exynos Note 5 and it worked on At&t gsm phone. I'm currently using the Note 8 snapdragon unlocked version on At&t. I can use this phone on any carrier in the US. Unlocked doesn't mean the bootloader is unlocked. The unlocked snapdragon Note 8 bootloader is locked and that maybe at the demand of the US major carriers..... not sure.
Performance Comparison
Here is the link comparting 835 to the 8895:
anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos-versus-snapdragon
It’s only when running system-level tests such as PCMark, which runs more realistic workloads that use standard Android API calls, where these effects become evident and where we see a noticeable difference in performance between the two S8 models. The S835 S8 performs almost 30% better than the E8895 model overall in PCMark, with a 49% advantage in the Writing test where thread migration between the little and big clusters plays a prominent role.
...If you’re upgrading from a previous Android or Galaxy phone, especially one that predates the S7, the Galaxy S8’s performance and battery life will not disappoint, no matter which SoC is used. Between these two, however, across all of the tests I've run, the S835 model is certainly the better of the two in terms of those metrics.
If anyone knows about the bootloaders of the Hong Kong model, please let me know!
Ry2mkk said:
I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
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See post #10 below for source (Anandtech). I know historically that was the case, but apparently with the 835 it's a different story.
samlazaz said:
See post #10 below for source (Anandtech). I know historically that was the case, but apparently with the 835 it's a different story.
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Ah ok
Well. That sucks!
Suprising.
The F version is the snapdragon version, right? Or is the F version Exynos now?
smiley45 said:
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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If the carriers were the principal then the unbranded variant of the Snapdragon note 8 wouldn't be locked.
It's not the carriers, it's Qualcomm.
Not to detract from our current root, but is there anything that we can do as far as development towards unlocking our bootloader or are we basically just waiting (hoping) for a devleak? Sorry for my ignorance I haven't been following xda as much these days
jlear3 said:
Not to detract from our current root, but is there anything that we can do as far as development towards unlocking our bootloader or are we basically just waiting (hoping) for a devleak? Sorry for my ignorance I haven't been following xda as much these days
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It seems technically possible but rather unlikely. I found this article on the S7 that's an interesting read: https://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
What, Seriously?
sefrcoko said:
It's not the carriers, it's Qualcomm.
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Never heard of this dating back to GingerBread. Perhaps the SoC or Modem, but never relating to the BootLoader. I would appreciate a reference link on this. Very interested...
Apparently this can be done... Did not know...
Hong Kong versions are all snapdragon for the note8. Not sure what's going on with unlock and stuff for hk versions, seems to be nothing on the hk and Chinese sites on 835 unlock/root yet
smiley45 said:
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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Umm bootloader has nothing to do with simlock. My Note has a locked bootloader but I am sim unlocked so I can go to whatever carrier I want, I just cant boot any rom I want.
why shoud i buy Exynos ? or why shoud i buy snapdrodon ?
please tell me with reason ?
SD is for the US, Exynos is fors the rest of the world.
Exynos is arguably a bit faster although you'd only likely see the difference in benchmark testing. Its bootloader comes unlocked. Unless you live in the US, you'll likely get an Exynos SoC.
The only reason to get SD is us CDMA carriers. other than that you should get exynos if you can.
Sd can run dolphin emu 100% , exynos cant.
If You don't live in US then You will get Exynos. And if You live in US then try to get Exynos anyway. Just check if it supports Your LTE bands etc. Exynos has huge development compared to Snapdragon + easy root. And it's faster. I heard many complaints that SD N8 lags a lot and Exynos is smooth as always. Exynos gives You more freedom in general.
Exynos is better in processing and ram management, SD is better in terms of 3D games and graphics
If you have no intention of doing geeky things on your phone, either processor would make any real noticeable difference. Get the one with best deal and official warranty. But if you do plan on customizing your phone and getting rid of stock firmware and software, avoid snapdragon.
I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
No, Exynos will get updates earlier. Also Exynos version can record a calls
Chuck199 said:
I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
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What are the advantages of the Exynos variant? Only one I'm aware of, you'll have a larger selection of Custom ROM'S. Snapdragon SoC is now faster, better optimized for gaming, AI, 5G and is offered with an unlocked bootloader. Do you plan on rooting or flashing your device? If not Snapdragon is your best bet.
Yeah, it seems to boil down to whether you want/need an unlocked bootloader. While there have been some unlocked Snapdragon S models in the past, they are in limited markets and have had very little development compared to the Exynos models. For my usage, the Exynos is the only option, and some of the performance difference will be clawed back by custom kernels/ROMs. And since I'm coming from a rooted Exynos S7, the S10e will be a solid performance jump. But if rooting didn't matter to me, I'd go with the Snapdragon.
For some reason I thought the snapdragon models were easier to create roms for but so far I only see roms for the models that have the Exynos CPU. Is this true? Are there any roms for g973u or g973u1 models?
No, it's been known for years that the G973U1 phones are locked down. You're already getting a superior phone with the Snapdragon processor so you'll have to live with it.
Thanks for the info. I've rooted and rom'd every phone I have ever had including my galaxy s7 international. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to buy a phone that can't be rooted. That said the galaxy s10 is an amazing phone and Samsung's camera app is pretty sweet. One of my main motivations for rooting is for installing the google camera app
My s10+ exynos rooted is for sale
The U.S. variants of the S9 and S9+ just got root like 2 months ago. It'll be awhile before the S10 gets root if it's even going to be possible. A lot people are saying no that root will never come to the U.S. S10 model line.
I'd like to know what are all the differences between all of the Note 9 variants, in terms of what's BL locked and what's rootable.
First of all, I'm under the impression that the Exynos phones are unlockable/rootable. It is also not available in the United States, as I understand, correct? Does that mean it won't work with US Carriers at all?
Also, the Snapdragon version. Now, I don't know what are all of the Snapdragon variants, as I can only speak for my phone and the various posts I've seen about it. I'm on the SM-N960U. Is it fair to say that having a GN9 with a Snapdragon processor mean that your phone cannot be BL Unlocked/Rooted? If any Snapdragon phones can be Unlocked/Rooted, which ones are these and are they compatible with US Carriers?
I don't plan on replacing my Note 9 yet, but maybe next year with another Samsung. I read that the Note line might be going away, in space of the S-line "Ultra". But anyways, my point being when I get a new Samsung Phone, is it possible to get one that is BL Unlockable and Rootable, AND fully compatible with my US Carrier, Tmobile?
afaik, you have the Note 9's US version already (snapdragon chip version) so its certainly compatible with US carriers in the 1st place.
rooting/bootloader unlocking is another story, irrelevant to what you are concerned.
I think only US sd version is unlockable.
N960F compatability https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/note-9-model-sm-n960f-ds-dual-sim-t3903528
It's funny you'd ask this today.... I own an international version (unlocked) Snapdragon variant that *is* rootable... the SM-N9600 (not to be mistaken for the N960u and so on which are NOT rootable). But though my phone is *technically* rootable, there's a very messy issue with it not allowing flashing TWRP / rooting even after the OEM unlock switch is thrown. I oughta know... just again spent hours in vain trying to get it to root. It's a long story and you can find it just by googling "N9600 prenormal" or some such. Anyway, at least on paper there is a Snapdragon Note 9 that is rootable.