This will be used to detail how to get LinuxonAndroid running on the GPad and the process of QPair support to bring new and interesting features to the project as a whole.
Step 1 - Install Linux on the tablet
We shall start by using the standard Complete Linux Installer to install and run Linux with the GUI pumped over VNC (Frame buffer method coming soon!), this method works on most devices and is the most universal but as the project develops in the coming weeks a better method for the GPad will be developed.
Anyway on with installing!
Root
First things first you will need to root your tablet, currently my tablet is running Stock V50020d with root.
The below will most likely work on other ROMs as long as you have root it should work!
(A custom ROM may be developed for further features.. watch this space)
Download
Now we have root you will need to download the below:
Complete Linux Installer
Terminal Emulator
VNC View (I recommend PocketCloud)
Finally download A Linux .img file from our source forge site HERE, I recommend and will be using Ubuntu 13.10 Small ext4. Once downloaded extract the .zip file and copy the .img to your devices memory (internal memory or sdcard).
XDA:DevDB Information
LinuxonAndroid - GPad, Device Specific App for the LG G Pad 8.3
Contributors
zacthespack
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2014-11-01
Last Updated 2014-11-12
Let me understand, you want to port QPair to linux that will run on the G pad?
Disclaimer: I'm also in the challange but the idea of running linux on the tablet is really interesting.
yoavst said:
Let me understand, you want to port QPair to linux that will run on the G pad?
Disclaimer: I'm also in the challange but the idea of running linux on the tablet is really interesting.
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I guess @zacthespack wants to use linuxonandroid on tab and sync stuff with a third party such as keyboard, etc using QPair.
Another Disclaimer here Good luck to everyone!
SferaDev said:
I guess @zacthespack wants to use linuxonandroid on tab and sync stuff with a third party such as keyboard, etc using QPair.
Another Disclaimer here Good luck to everyone!
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Bingo!
With linuxonandroid running on the tablet we could then use QPair to allow the user to have a phone (or another tablet..?) as the mouse/keyboard for Linux
posted first steps in OP to start getting LoA running on the tablet.
Everything is running very well, I shall finish the guide shortly to get LoA running but really the app install guide will work perfectly.
Next step I will be releasing a special Ubuntu 14.10 image which will be the supported image for QPair features and other changes for the GPad.
it say I need a loopable kernel which I didn't find for stock LG rom...
yoavst said:
it say I need a loopable kernel which I didn't find for stock LG rom...
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Stock LG kernel does have loop support so you should have no issue here, if you are having another issue getting linux to start let me know, shall be updated the OP in the next few days
As you know voting is now live so please do vote for the project!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dev...-voting/xda-lg-contest-voting-thread-t2978598
Howdy, cool project. Couple of questions. I'm looking for a reason to install Linux on my tablet, but also understand that I can remotely view my home system with vnc. So what would be the benefit?
Is there more control using Linux to Linux?
Does this mean I could open into my home system, make changes to my kernel, compile, and upload to a server from my tablet?? Late night insomnia while in the mountains would be awesome. I would have to tether my tablet to my phone for WiFi, and run through Linux? This sounds pretty awesome.
Tell me the reasons it won't work.
Pretty awesome OP. Thanks!
Cant log in ubuntu
Can somebody tell me why im not able to boot?im running lollipop with red kernel and before i was running kitkat and still the same.Im my g2 there is no problem but on tab doesn work.I download complete linux installer,busybox,terminal and vnc and i never get the @root.i trh also a differend image but nothing.Any help will be appreciate
Hello ,
I got my P7 for about 4 Months now,
and I wanted to have the EMUI 3.0 and Lolipop
but I think the Original System is 4.4.2 and Emui 2
I want to ask What can I do to Root or make a ROM (Sorry I really dont know he defrance total newbie ) , but I dont want to lose the support of Google or the Google Market , what should I do , can anyone help me in that ???
give me details and tell me what to do
thanks
look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc...7en-rom-v3-0-emui-3-0-4-4-2-18-11-14-t2945104
darkzero2022 said:
Hello ,
I got my P7 for about 4 Months now,
and I wanted to have the EMUI 3.0 and Lolipop
but I think the Original System is 4.4.2 and Emui 2
I want to ask What can I do to Root or make a ROM (Sorry I really dont know he defrance total newbie ) , but I dont want to lose the support of Google or the Google Market , what should I do , can anyone help me in that ???
give me details and tell me what to do
thanks
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If you are newbie than do nothing ! Wait for official upgrade ! Because you will cry !
Sent from my HUAWEI P7-L10
Ziolek67 said:
If you are newbie than do nothing ! Wait for official upgrade ! Because you will cry !
Sent from my HUAWEI P7-L10
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Really ???? Why ?? Huawei is too slow in making the Updates , all now is Andoird 5 and P7 is stuck in 4.4.2
It's proberly better staying on 4.4.2 than on lolipop. Many bugs on lolipop.
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darkzero2022 said:
Really ???? Why ?? Huawei is too slow in making the Updates , all now is Andoird 5 and P7 is stuck in 4.4.2
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Ok than lest go to update.... I will waiting for yours requests for help
darkzero2022 said:
Really ???? Why ?? Huawei is too slow in making the Updates , all now is Andoird 5 and P7 is stuck in 4.4.2
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Wow do you realize android 5 has been out officially for a week or two and pretty much every phone apart from nexus which uses the software directly from Google themselves who make android, still don't run it yet and expect to be running it in 2015.
Not even big teams that use the aosp code directly such as cyanogen or paranoid have got a stable fully functional rom out yet.
It takes time for the 3rd party developers to customize and test android for there devices once the official version gets released as they all use the final source code which only has been out 3-4 weeks.
Also no company apart from Google is much better, Samsung are still rolling out 4.4 to some of there devices with some like the s2 still on 4.2 and end of life presumably others will jump straight to lollipop from 4.3 etc.
Also on rooting what do you wish to achieve by doing so?
Rooting can be very dangerous if you don't know what your doing with devices like ours.
Take a look for example at all the posts in this forum asking to downgrade their l10's from emui 3 to 2 which they upgraded to custom versions etc without thinking and the issues they now have with boot loops and stuff.
If you want to run xposed you can find many people with similar things recently in this forum that can't get it to work.
Also rooting etc you lose the ability for any future updates via OTA and recovery and would need to manually update your device potentially bricking it every single time which bricking means you can no longer use your device and have to buy a new one.
Also are you capible on the PC with using it, command prompt Linux shell etc and doing things like installing Windows and other things.
If not then rooting is not for you.
Also do you know how to code in Linux C etc and know the workings of the Linux os, if not then there is no way you are going to make a custom rom. All you might be able to achieve is just repackaging someone else's ROM with minor edits and even then the tools to do that mainly use Linux to run as it's native windows doesn't have all the stuff Linux has natively in this regard.
Ziolek67 said:
If you are newbie than do nothing ! Wait for official upgrade ! Because you will cry !
Sent from my HUAWEI P7-L10
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drguild said:
Wow do you realize android 5 has been out officially for a week or two and pretty much every phone apart from nexus which uses the software directly from Google themselves who make android, still don't run it yet and expect to be running it in 2015.
Not even big teams that use the aosp code directly such as cyanogen or paranoid have got a stable fully functional rom out yet.
It takes time for the 3rd party developers to customize and test android for there devices once the official version gets released as they all use the final source code which only has been out 3-4 weeks.
Also no company apart from Google is much better, Samsung are still rolling out 4.4 to some of there devices with some like the s2 still on 4.2 and end of life presumably others will jump straight to lollipop from 4.3 etc.
Also on rooting what do you wish to achieve by doing so?
Rooting can be very dangerous if you don't know what your doing with devices like ours.
Take a look for example at all the posts in this forum asking to downgrade their l10's from emui 3 to 2 which they upgraded to custom versions etc without thinking and the issues they now have with boot loops and stuff.
If you want to run xposed you can find many people with similar things recently in this forum that can't get it to work.
Also rooting etc you lose the ability for any future updates via OTA and recovery and would need to manually update your device potentially bricking it every single time which bricking means you can no longer use your device and have to buy a new one.
Also are you capible on the PC with using it, command prompt Linux shell etc and doing things like installing Windows and other things.
If not then rooting is not for you.
Also do you know how to code in Linux C etc and know the workings of the Linux os, if not then there is no way you are going to make a custom rom. All you might be able to achieve is just repackaging someone else's ROM with minor edits and even then the tools to do that mainly use Linux to run as it's native windows doesn't have all the stuff Linux has natively in this regard.
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Thanks For your Valuable words,
I really enjoyed them and get my mind open
well I do have Good Experience in linux and Command line , C Programming actually didnt go deep with it really ,
But i think I will stick to your opinion and wait ,and while I do so I will learn more about the whole subject ,and maybe increase my knowledge in this Field . (Android Programming - the C Programming - how things work in Android , ROMS , ETC)
but would you mind telling me from where to start ???
darkzero2022 said:
Thanks For your Valuable words,
I really enjoyed them and get my mind open
well I do have Good Experience in linux and Command line , C Programming actually didnt go deep with it really ,
But i think I will stick to your opinion and wait ,and while I do so I will learn more about the whole subject ,and maybe increase my knowledge in this Field . (Android Programming - the C Programming - how things work in Android , ROMS , ETC)
but would you mind telling me from where to start ???
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Apologies if I came across about abit hard this forum has had allot of impatient people jumping in recently trying to run Emui 3 on l10's then asking to downgrade as you may have noticed the other teams like paranoid are already dealing with lots of people saying there to slow for not having lollipop out within a hour of aosp.
I had the same issue running a custom Minecraft server that people got really angry then refused to play and bad mouth the server if we didn't update that day when update time for us was about a week given the number of customizations we had 41 plugin's in the end, sometimes longer if there were more changes the mod and custom server devs had to deal with.
Emui 3 and lollipop has more bugs more as it's new from what I found I may start a proper consolidated emui talk thread later for those running it opposed to all the l10 when are we getting it out help me downgrade threads.
The place I think you should start is to download the source code for your version from the emui webpage and start analyzing it out of interest.
There's another Dev on here doing the same thing so you might want to contact him for info.
Also there are tools on Linux that easily let you unpack stock image files and the ext container and repack them.
That way you can see the full file structure and how a rom is packaged.
It's good just to see what's inside roms and how the first roms are usually made by a repackage before source.
I will stress the same as above that while these are starting points you would need to know what you are doing and something more hackable like a cheap nexus or or Chinese tab (about $50 USD) with easy upgradable firmware something would be better to start on.
Also grab down the android tools with eclypse for Linux, the sdk virtual device and have a play around making a app and stuff also you can edit the virtual rom safely etc.
The Linux version of the tools is far superior as you can natively mount the virtual ext cards for host file transfer and do other things which you can't under windows.
By ext above I mean the virtual partition files which are either ext 3 or 4 last time I looked.
I'm not a coder myself and I only did basic stuff in the past as I had a Chinese android 2.2 tablet the MID ones as my first device, I used a custom rom on which was just a repack with file system changes with bloat removed etc.
I looked into this out of interest and curiosity, each rom update I repacked it with the apps I used so I didn't need to reinstall them, there was probably a better (proper) way than just unpacking the ext file system from the img adding my apps in to the deploy folder and repacking.
Also I unpacked a APK weather app etc to make changes and use a custom background and others like themes to grab icons and assets this is a good start with looking at app packages and how that all works as well as making your own app in various tools eclipse for one which is the official tool but there's hundreds of android programming softwares online even to do simple stuff as make a stand alone html5 app from a webpage.
The tools on Windows I found were lacking and harder to find for the rom stuff, with Linux it was built into the system a lot of things.
What Linux is the best for doing Android stuff I don't know so that will need to be researched.
As mentioned devices can be dangerous for custom stuff especially newer ones with bootloader security, the older Chinese style ones and some others you could reflash easily from sdcard with a update.img file as they didn't contain that lock out security on boot and debugging.
I nearly bricked a few devices in the past, once having to rely on the bootloader and Android Commander a powerful tool and device terminal to mount the partition rw while in the bootloader to rename a file backI renamed as a test that caused the system to stop booting.
You can still get some tabs that do that about 50 USD on eBay etc I think.
darkzero2022 said:
Hello ,
I got my P7 for about 4 Months now,
and I wanted to have the EMUI 3.0 and Lolipop
but I think the Original System is 4.4.2 and Emui 2
I want to ask What can I do to Root or make a ROM...
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I'd strongly advise that you wait. My experience. You can root v4.4.2 VERY easily using vroot. Wait for lollipop, honestly. Is a nightmare recovering your position if you try to move now.
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Hello everyone. Those days I feel some to root my phone (ALE-L21 6.0 Dual SIM) to install custom ROMs like LineageOS with Android Nougat and use apps like WPS WPA Tester but other some I feel not because I'm still in warranty time (it ends after 1 year + the warranty isn't in my country) and I never rooted any device or even used Android (my lase phone was Nokia 110) so today I wanna to know why root is useful and why not and what can I use it for and what's the root dangerous? I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs? Like Radio FM doesn't work, screen recorder doesn't work or even has a bug?
AmirGTX said:
I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs?
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Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
keikari said:
I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
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1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
fosco_ said:
IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
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What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
AmirGTX said:
1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
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Well I forgot to tell most important reason, because you can : D
Nowdays that's prety much all the stuf that matters for regular user.
Maybe bagroundplayback for youtube if it isn't already possible with regular app.
And it's kind of a plus that you can back backup your full system in TWRP, thought main reson for backups is that you are testing something unstable or new stuff which you can only do with unlocked bootloader.
PS. Your logic in 4 is kind of weird XDD
And dpi is kind of like resolution of screen but still very different but you can think of it as a weird resolution setting
Azzureux said:
Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
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Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
AmirGTX said:
What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
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Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
AmirGTX said:
Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
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I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
fosco_ said:
Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
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Oh alright +1, why I need root else? (I'm just collecting info b4 rooting my device)
Azzureux said:
I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
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Awesome, that's why I want to root it but I'm still waiting until LineageOS be available and stable without bugs for me. I bought my phone last year and updated it to MM 6.0 at 7 month of last year, now I have UPDATE.APP (got it from here) it has no bugs and too stable for me. So I saw tutorials here for rooting my device but it were too much big and I need to use my computer. NP if I used my computer but can't I root it using apps suck as KingRoot and then install the ROM? Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation. I want to know to be deep for such as problems. Thanks for info
AmirGTX said:
Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation.
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Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
Azzureux said:
Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
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Extremely awesome and thanks a lot. I want to start to learn about root but IDK from where can I start! There are no way to root any Android emulator and learn from it or executing on main device would be more stable?
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
ItalianWolf said:
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
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Ciao amico mio ? (some Italian from school ?) can you give me a tutorial for this? I need to try. Also why there are a lot of stuffs to root ALE-L21? What if I used apps such as KingRoot?
Ciao!
Kingroot, if it's working again, isn't a good root solution; i've tried (we were with lollipop) but messed up a lot of things so i had to re-flash stock firmware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/mega-thread-root-unbricking-updating-t3400994
Yes for :
Tweak kernel, install AdAway and remove preinstalled apps.
personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
panchovix said:
personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
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I don't like normal things, I need to be special that's why I think to root my device. I'm neither pro nor newer. So I need to know if I rooted my device what will I do else custom ROMs and block ads and remove system apps?