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Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.
joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
joemon871 said:
I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
joemon871 said:
Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked
joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works
Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
Ogawa said:
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
cxhugh said:
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
Ogawa said:
Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
wdkingery said:
I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!
wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
Ogawa said:
Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
Ogawa said:
Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...
band 17, at&t!
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I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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wdkingery said:
band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?
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Wait, what?
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intifadamericana said:
I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.
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That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.
Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
oneandroidnut said:
Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
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I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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rav101 said:
I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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rav101 said:
My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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they are trying to go esim, i think everybody here in the states is
To answer your question, data will work on verizon in some areas, but voice won't. Same with all Huawei flagships of late.
Your only hope would be rooting and perhaps enabling VoLTE on verizon, in which case there's a small chance you could get it working.
oneandroidnut said:
Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
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Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
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Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have cdma either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
oneandroidnut said:
Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have CDMA either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
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You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
eoga said:
You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
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On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
oneandroidnut said:
On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
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I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
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I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
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My pixel says NONVZW on my verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
oneandroidnut said:
My pixel says NONVZW on my Verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
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Your Pixel says NONVZW because it was not bought directly on Verizon but it is a cell phone that is configured to work on both GSM and CDMA including full compatibility with Verizon so it shouldn't be considered as the same than P20 pro but if you still want to do it go ahead and good luck.
Anytime the same discussion. Thia phone is not official supported by Verizon. It will work on GSM Based Networks. But not on CDMA.
guy your wrong
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
What was the outcome of this discussion? OP, did you ever get to work?
Kawar3 said:
who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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It's got nothing to do with that. CDMA does not require a sim, never has. LTE is what the sim is for because LTE is actually a GSM technology.
I dont know alot about the U11 but from what I could see from a quick search it actually does have all the Verizon LTE bands including 13. 13 is the most important one because its verizon main LTE band.
Guess which band the P20 pro doesn't have...13. It probably will not work and even if you could somehow manage to get it to. it probably wouldn't be a very good expensive, but if you want to spend 700 bucks to try to prove us all wrong more power to you.
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Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
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unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
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unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
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how long ago did they not have sim cards??? 10-15 years maybe?? Everything phone from 2008??? and on has had a sim card
Does anyone know if T-Mobile will support a 5G connection on the unlocked Pixel 5?
jhlarowe said:
Does anyone know if T-Mobile will support a 5G connection on the unlocked Pixel 5?
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Should be a non issue. I read an article yesterday where the 4a 5G is launching on T-Mobile.
jhlarowe said:
Does anyone know if T-Mobile will support a 5G connection on the unlocked Pixel 5?
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According to the FCC certification, the Pixel 5 has all 4 of T-Mobiles 5g bands. I read something recently where Tmobile is adding more spectrum and current 5g phones won't work with that spectrum
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Does anyone know if T-Mobile will support a 5G connection on the unlocked Pixel 5?
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I just IM'd a sales person at T-Mobile. The assured me that the Pixel 5 will be supported.
Here is what Google posted on its website. Some of it seems confusing when it comes to which kind of 5G(sub-6 or mmWave) each carrier supports.
https://support.google.com/pixelpho...d&visit_id=637370884265449927-3978292210&rd=1
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Does anyone know if T-Mobile will support a 5G connection on the unlocked Pixel 5?
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Google Fi uses (or used to use) TMobile infrastructure, so I assume it will be just fine. Ask your carrier if you really need to know.
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Here is what Google posted on its website. Some of it seems confusing when it comes to which kind of 5G(sub-6 or mmWave) each carrier supports.
https://support.google.com/pixelpho...d&visit_id=637370884265449927-3978292210&rd=1
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It is very confusing. T-Mobile MVNOs have mm-wave capability but T-Mobile doesn't?
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It is very confusing. T-Mobile MVNOs have mm-wave capability but T-Mobile doesn't?
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No ****?
Looks like Google updated the chart. T-Mobile is good to go.
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Looks like Google updated the chart. T-Mobile is good to go.
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It's says mm-wave coming soon
My guess is they are waiting for compatibility tests to enable it. Worst case is it will require a software update that will come soon after launch. In any event it need not be a worry.
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It's says mm-wave coming soon
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/help/pixel-5-versions-5g-launch-s-t4178847
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I prefer a Sim card. Just in case I have to switch phones on the fly. Sounds like esims are a pain to setup?
I just picked up an R15 Sim card at tmobile for SA 5G. Doesn't seem any different. LoL
Golf c said:
I prefer a Sim card. Just in case I have to switch phones on the fly. Sounds like esims are a pain to setup?
I just picked up an R15 Sim card at tmobile for SA 5G. Doesn't seem any different. LoL
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No, but the encryption is worth it. Everyone should upgrade to an R15 sim.
tallpilot said:
No, but the encryption is worth it. Everyone should upgrade to an R15 sim.
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That sounds good to me.
Golf c said:
I prefer a Sim card. Just in case I have to switch phones on the fly. Sounds like esims are a pain to setup?
I just picked up an R15 Sim card at tmobile for SA 5G. Doesn't seem any different. LoL
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I don't know what an R15 SIM card. I just know the old big SIMs and the newer NanoSIMs.
I can see that, but I only have one phone. lol So for me eSIM is great!
I didn't think so. Didn't have to go to the T-Mobile Store or anything. Just called customer service and they set it up on their end. Last step was the rep texted me a link to a special QR code that I use the Pixel 5 to scan, then wallah, all set up!
I really won't miss physical SIM cards at all. But if I ever got 2 phones, then maybe I'd switch back.
RockStar2005 said:
I don't know what an R15 SIM card. I just know the old big SIMs and the newer NanoSIMs.
I can see that, but I only have one phone. lol So for me eSIM is great!
I didn't think so. Didn't have to go to the T-Mobile Store or anything. Just called customer service and they set it up on their end. Last step was the rep texted me a link to a special QR code that I use the Pixel 5 to scan, then wallah, all set up!
I really won't miss physical SIM cards at all. But if I ever got 2 phones, then maybe I'd switch back.
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I think the esims are very compelling. I do switch phones from time to time.
An R15 physical Sim card from tmobile allows users to access their Stand Alone 5G network. The old Sim cards will only allow access to their non stand alone 5G network.
Stand Alone is supposed to be far more superior to non stand alone. After two hours I don't notice the difference. LoL
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/latest-sim-for-great-network-experience
Golf c said:
I think the esims are very compelling. I do switch phones from time to time.
An R15 physical Sim card from tmobile allows users to access their Stand Alone 5G network. The old Sim cards will only allow access to their non stand alone 5G network.
Stand Alone is supposed to be far more superior to non stand alone. After two hours I don't notice the difference. LoL
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/latest-sim-for-great-network-experience
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Do we know if these phones support T-Mobiles SA network? I know tmobile sent out updates to their phones to enable support, so im not so sure these do
cwalker0906 said:
Do we know if these phones support T-Mobiles SA network? I know tmobile sent out updates to their phones to enable support, so im not so sure these do
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All I know right now is according to Google, MMwave support is "coming".
The phone itself supports all 4 of T-Mobiles current 5G bands.
I also know you need a R15 Sim card to access the SA 5G network.
Other than that, does our software support SA 5G. I really don't know. But at least I have the right Sim card.
Golf c said:
All I know right now is according to Google, MMwave support is "coming".
The phone itself supports all 4 of T-Mobiles current 5G bands.
I also know you need a R15 Sim card to access the SA 5G network.
Other than that, does our software support SA 5G. I really don't know. But at least I have the right Sim card.
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I got the r15 sim but from what I can tell, I can't get SA, and it is available in my area. My wife has a tmobile device with SA so I will do some speed tests to compare
I have wanted to get the ROG since the 2 came out. I'm on Verizon and don't plan on changing anytime soon.
Can the 3 work on the Verizon network? If it does, will it be limited in any way (service area, speed, bands, and so forth)? What has to be done to make it work?
Thank You for your help!
LordTrouble said:
I have wanted to get the ROG since the 2 came out. I'm on Verizon and don't plan on changing anytime soon.
Can the 3 work on the Verizon network? If it does, will it be limited in any way (service area, speed, bands, and so forth)? What has to be done to make it work?
Thank You for your help!
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according to this:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-asus-rog-phone-3-16gb-512gb-am
it should work only on 4G network only on Verizon network, no 5G or 3G which might be an issue for you .
LordTrouble said:
I have wanted to get the ROG since the 2 came out. I'm on Verizon and don't plan on changing anytime soon.
Can the 3 work on the Verizon network? If it does, will it be limited in any way (service area, speed, bands, and so forth)? What has to be done to make it work?
Thank You for your help!
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Data only on 4g.
Has anyone been able to to try it?
I was hoping someone could say there experience with using it on Verizon's network?
It seems this reviewer tried it on Verizon: pcmag com /product-guides/137219/asus-rog-phone-3
We asked in the comments and I emailed him personally but he did not respond.
I think it working on 4g is a good bet. You would just have to root to be able to enable VoLTE and Wifi calling. Like they did for the ROG phone 2.
EnDeR WiGiN said:
I was hoping someone could say there experience with using it on Verizon's network?
It seems this reviewer tried it on Verizon: pcmag com /product-guides/137219/asus-rog-phone-3
We asked in the comments and I emailed him personally but he did not respond.
I think it working on 4g is a good bet. You would just have to root to be able to enable VoLTE and Wifi calling. Like they did for the ROG phone 2.
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So did you see my post? Right above yours? I dont understand everyone's refusal to believe what is posted here. It gets 4g data only.
bs3pro said:
So did you see my post? Right above yours? I dont understand everyone's refusal to believe what is posted here. It gets 4g data only.
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So, just to be sure that I understand you correctly. You are saying it will ONLY do data? No calls?
Could you also please give your reason, knowledge, or sources for the statement? Thank you in advance.