Hello,
I just bought Mi 9t pro 6GB ram, 128gb rom version, but in Cpu-z, Total Ram shows only 5523MB, so how can be gone 477MB ?
And Internal Storage shows only 109.34 GB
How much shows cpu-z on your phones ?
That is normal. Some part is typically reserved by the system and not visible to CPU-Z.
patoberli said:
That is normal. Some part is typically reserved by the system and not visible to CPU-Z.
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Yes, I know internal storage could be reserved, but Ram it's too much. How your total ram showing cpu_z
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In my case 5507 MB Ram. I think the rest is assigned to GPU and because of that hidden.
Probably it was never added to cut costs.
/sarcasm
I think the missing memory is locked from the OS because it's shared with the adreno gpu (Qualcomm hasn't shared the deeper details on gpu)
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As I previously read, out of the 512 MB of our O2X's, some 128-140 MB are reserved for the Tegra chip-set, and the rest of 380 MB are available to Android and applications.
With Froyo, there were usually 180-200 MB of memory free after booting/killing all apps, and like 90-130 MB free after normal usage. I'm not sure, but if I remember correctly, in the running apps screen, the sum of the used/available memory summed up to about the previous stated 380 MB.
After applying the GB update, after booting/killing all apps there are only 140 MB free and about 60 MB after some usage. If I go to Manage Apps -> Running apps, the sum of the used and available memory is around 310-320.
My question is: why is there less memory available in GB? Has LG increased the graphics memory from 128 MB to 192 MB? If yes, is it possible to change this allocation? Or is there a ROM that uses less graphics memory?
Maybe GB reports available memory differently, but it's definitely noticeable that there's less RAM available. If switching from browser to another app, with Froyo the page loaded was kept in memory, however with GB the page always has to be reloaded even if the switch lasted like 20-30 seconds.
Edit: I'd like to use less graphics memory and have more RAM so my apps run faster.
No the Vram is the same. The phone still has 380 mb ram to use for the OS and apps. Also free ram is wasted ram since apps are not cached so they will not launch faster.
taxas said:
No the Vram is the same. The phone still has 380 mb ram to use for the OS and apps. Also free ram is wasted ram since apps are not cached in for they will launch faster.
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And therefore taskplanners are also not needed ;-)
KillerbeeNL said:
And therefore taskplanners are also not needed ;-)
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Not completely true. Android kills automatically unneeded processes, that's true, but sometimes it happens that an app remains in background and uses the 100% of the CPU, so i use the task killers to terminate it.
Try Super charger, very efficient and not as resources consuming than apps. Search the dedicated thread.
And I don't think there is a way to free graphical memory. I don't think it's software driven but physical...
The only thing that had been made is to free the reserved memory for OTA LG service, that leaves you some more memory, but only available in some roms.
Striatum_bdr said:
Try Super charger, very efficient and not as resources consuming than apps. Search the dedicated thread.
And I don't think there is a way to free graphical memory. I don't think it's software driven but physical...
The only thing that had been made is to free the reserved memory for OTA LG service, that leaves you some more memory, but only available in some roms.
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Its possible to give the GPU less memory, different defs have done it (i.e benee). But as far as i know most of them removed that tweak since it was causing alot of bugs.
And yes, free ram are most likely wasted ram.
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If ya want to change vram look at this: https://raw.github.com/gist/1170959/73e5f41b1ad8b3bb65c8bd22d422a4fd877204a3/CarveoutMemory
It contains a little info about the things you need to change. Some skills required though
kiljacken said:
If ya want to change vram look at this: https://raw.github.com/gist/1170959/73e5f41b1ad8b3bb65c8bd22d422a4fd877204a3/CarveoutMemory
It contains a little info about the things you need to change. Some skills required though
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Hi kiljacken !
I remember that you've made some times ago a kernel with 64mb more of ram...
Also for the stock rom...
butI can't find it anymore...
Any help?
Thanks for the replies guys!
It seems like if possible, it's very complicated to change the video memory allocation, so I'll leave it like that.
hey all!
i have question like that! im working on electronic factory and have no problems with solder out and in BGA chips even the smallest ones! now the question! if i will solder out the ram chip and solder back in 1GB ram chip of the same tipe and company(i have acces to all the part available on the market)?
oleg1981 said:
hey all!
i have question like that! im working on electronic factory and have no problems with solder out and in BGA chips even the smallest ones! now the question! if i will solder out the ram chip and solder back in 1GB ram chip of the same tipe and company(i have acces to all the part available on the market)?
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How small is the solder required? Would be amazing if we could upgrade.
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hey all!
i have question like that! im working on electronic factory and have no problems with solder out and in BGA chips even the smallest ones! now the question! if i will solder out the ram chip and solder back in 1GB ram chip of the same tipe and company(i have acces to all the part available on the market)?
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I'm very unsure. I am sure though, that both kernel and boot image changes would be needed to run with the added memory
i think it's impposible to change the graphic memory size, maybe RAM hack? if you want to free RAM just use supercharger, i already used that and my free ram about 117-130 MB
It's completely possible, it's something that's controlled by the kernel.
Such kernels already were in the spring which reduced video memory by 64 Mb
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It's completely possible, it's something that's controlled by the kernel.
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so if I'm understanding correct if i will solder in new memory chip all i will need is to find how to change the ram value from 372 to 872?
oleg1981 said:
so if I'm understanding correct if i will solder in new memory chip all i will need is to find how to change the ram value from 372 to 872?
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I suppose if LG's programmers were careful enough not to hard-code any values, the phone should detect the memory like a computer detects new RAM. However ROMs which target multiple devices with different RAM, like CM, shouldn't have such issues...
I would LOVE 1GB ram! What would such ram cost?
Guys, RAM amounts are hardcoded into the kernel, so a custom kernel would be needed to use the ram. IF it's even possible to use such amounts of RAM. There migth be limitations in the bootloader, which will cause problems, but kernel changes should be enough. If you try it on your device I would be glad to provide a kernel that supports that amount of RAM, but I don't think it's doable. AFAIK the RAM is tightly packed in the device with many other components. It might even be built into the SoC making it impossible to change. But IDK, feel free to try what you want, but remember it's your device that gets destroyed if something goes wrong.
Do it OP!
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In phone specifications CPU-Z and Antutu say only 1258MB RAM, not 1536MB (1,5Gb)...
It's only me the unluck guy?
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In phone specifications CPU-Z and Antutu say only 1258MB RAM, not 1536MB (1,5Gb)...
It's only me the unluck guy?
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Mine says 1387MB
RaLq said:
Mine says 1387MB
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Anyway, better than mine.
I wrote to Samsung Customer Service and they replied me that a quote of RAM is reserved for OS...
Why - then - we all have different amounts of total RAM?
Mine also says 1258mb. SM-G800F rooted stock Rom
Well first of all, anything related to sizes in computer world is not exact since someone decided that 1mb is 1000kb not 1024kb. So if a device has example 1,5GB ram, it's never really exactly 1,5GB.
Then secondly the system reserves some amount of the ram to use, so a phone will never have 1,5GB free ram if it's marketed having 1,5GB ram.
Edit: Thirdly, you have to compare the ram usage to a same phone with same firmware, settings, apps and updates to get real information.
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Well first of all, anything related to sizes in computer world is not exact since someone decided that 1mb is 1000kb not 1024kb. So if a device has example 1,5GB ram, it's never really exactly 1,5GB.
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@leripe: It only applies to data storage devices, not ram.
RAM: 1.5Gb = 1536 Mb = 1572864kb = 1610612736b
DISK: "1.5Gb" ~ 1500000000b ~ 1464844kb ~ 1431Mb < 1,4Gb
But rest is right. Most of the ram is reserved for other hardware, ex GPU.
Hi,
I'm a bit surprised that if I add free memory and used memory from the Settings app the total is about 1.7 gb. Ain't we supposed to get 2gb? I hope sony didn't do the hdd trick (see wikipedia page on Kibibyte, I cannot post link as a junior member) and even so 2000000/1048576 = 1.907 ... where's my ram?
Under CPU-Z that show : 1.732Mb.
Your OS doesn't need RAM to function right?
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Your OS doesn't need RAM to function right?
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yes it does but I thought it will be included in the "used memory"... if the OS takes 300 mb that's ok but why I only got 900 mb free when I kill all apps? I used to have a nexus 4 and with the same amount of memory on chip there was a *LOT* more available in the settings menu.
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yes it does but I thought it will be included in the "used memory"... if the OS takes 300 mb that's ok but why I only got 900 mb free when I kill all apps? I used to have a nexus 4 and with the same amount of memory on chip there was a *LOT* more available in the settings menu.
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That 900MB figure is about the same I normally have free. Various apps and services take up about 800MB on my phone, which seems excessive but I've turned off all background stuff that I can (some Google and Xperia services just won't go away, however). The only good news is that Android will free up memory if it's needed so that 900MB is not a finite figure (at least that's what I assume).
Hmm. I generally have no more than about 300 mb free memory at any given moment. Even just a few minutes after reboot. No weird apps or excessive widgets. Do you guys really have 900 mb free? You can check your memory on the fly using Cool Tool from Google Play.
The Z3C has 2GB of RAM, don't worry. What you are missing is used by shared graphics memory. BTW: This is exactly the reason why the Z3 has 3GB of memory (instead of 2GB) for its screen resolution is full HD opposed to "only" HD on the Z3C.
Anyhow, is it really necessary to start another thread on the same topic if there already is one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/ram-2gb-1-69gb-t2941487
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The Z3C has 2GB of RAM, don't worry. What you are missing is used by shared graphics memory. BTW: This is exactly the reason why the Z3 has 3GB of memory (instead of 2GB) for its screen resolution is full HD opposed to "only" HD on the Z3C.
Anyhow, is it really necessary to start another thread on the same topic if there already is one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/ram-2gb-1-69gb-t2941487
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I have never had any doubts about the two gigs. But how much free memory do you have on your Z3C after a reboot and after a few hours of typical usage? My other phones with this much ram have generally had a lot more memory available at any given moment. Not that *free* memory is of any particular use in android, but I'm still curious to see whether your Z3C's are the same.
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I have never had any doubts about the two gigs. But how much free memory do you have on your Z3C after a reboot and after a few hours of typical usage? My other phones with this much ram have generally had a lot more memory available at any given moment. Not that *free* memory is of any particular use in android, but I'm still curious to see whether your Z3C's are the same.
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When I boot up the phone and immediatly check it shows some 800MB of free memory. About 500 to 600MB after a couple of days, fluctuating though. However, don't think these numbers have any meaning for Android keeps as much in memory as possible in order to increase responsiveness. It also depends on the Apps installed and the bloat disabled/blocked. Further, comparing it to other phones you had earlier might also be misleading since the version of Android could be a different one, hence comparing apples to apples would just not be possible.
Have you guys tried the new SWAP on WEEKLY 21.7.21 rom?
It supposed to decrease 5º celsius under load and decrease throttling and battery consumption.
CHANGELOG
System
New - Xiaomi.eu recovery ROM for Mi 11 Lite 5G (renoir)
New - Enabled "Memory extension (SWAP)" feature [Snapdragon 888/870/865 devices]
System launcher
Fix - Uninstalling apps using drag-and-drop was not working in drawer mode
EDIT: from what i gather it's supposed to increase your RAM by creating Virtual RAM using your UFS3.1 Storage, also decrease/use around 3gb of storage space like windows pagefile.
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Have you guys tried the new SWAP on WEEKLY 21.7.21 rom?
It supposed to decrease 5º celsius under load and decrease throttling and battery consumption.
CHANGELOG
System
New - Xiaomi.eu recovery ROM for Mi 11 Lite 5G (renoir)
New - Enabled "Memory extension (SWAP)" feature [Snapdragon 888/870/865 devices]
System launcher
Fix - Uninstalling apps using drag-and-drop was not working in drawer mode
EDIT: from what i gather it's supposed to increase your RAM by creating Virtual RAM using your UFS3.1 Storage, also decrease/use around 3gb of storage space like windows pagefile.
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It actually does not increase your ram and is only used if you are out of ram, Considering the vast majority of phones have anywhere from 6GB - 12GB ram and the average user in all actuality uses no more than four, this is just a useless gimmick that will take up space on your sd card/internal storage and won't give you any performance boost whatsoever.
Back in the day, when phones only had 1-3GB ram, we would root our phones and use these swap files to help with opening files and running apps, but that isn't necessary in today's smartphone world.
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It actually does not increase your ram and is only used if you are out of ram, Considering the vast majority of phones have anywhere from 6GB - 12GB ram and the average user in all actuality uses no more than four, this is just a useless gimmick that will take up space on your sd card/internal storage and won't give you any performance boost whatsoever.
Back in the day, when phones only had 1-3GB ram, we would root our phones and use these swap files to help with opening files and running apps, but that isn't necessary in today's smartphone world.
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I dont think so cause its only for snap 865 870 and 888 and all smartphone with these cpu have 6gb+
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I dont think so cause its only for snap 865 870 and 888 and all smartphone with these cpu have 6gb+
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Its built in to all MIUI, but only benefits phones with four or less GB of ram. Let me ask you, your phone has 12GB or ram and the average user only uses 4GB ram, how is this going to benefit you in any way?
How Much RAM Does a Smartphone Need?
Every smartphone needs memory, but just how much RAM does a smartphone actually need to work properly?
www.makeuseof.com
jim262 said:
Its built in to all MIUI, but only benefits phones with four or less GB of ram. Let me ask you, your phone has 12GB or ram and the average user only uses 4GB ram, how is this going to benefit you in any way?
How Much RAM Does a Smartphone Need?
Every smartphone needs memory, but just how much RAM does a smartphone actually need to work properly?
www.makeuseof.com
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You need to understand how it works. It merely creates a swap file on your internal storage and with the amount of ram flagship phones have (the Mi 11 Ultra has 12GB), it will never, ever be used, but it will take up space on your internal storage, that you could use for other more important things, like pictures, videos, music, games, etc...
Well definitely is not a feature for flagships,
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Well definitely is not a feature for flagships,
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Not a feature for any phone with greater than 4GB ram.
Indeed
Hey, i am planning to purchase Redmi note 10 pro. Should I go for 8gb ram or 6gb ram variant?
Is 6gb ram varient enough for fb, whatsapp, content consumption? (Not gaming much)
Although this device has wide range of custom rom support. Is there any benefits for having 8gb ram while using custom rom in future?
sure, 6gb is more than enough. eventhough a lot of unused apps are still cached, i got 700mb free
First of all, you can go with 6GB RAM if do not play much games! And I suggest you to buy Redmi Note 10 Pro, because I am using this device myself.
Overall the device is loaded with great features.
But due to MIUI lagging issue, I moved to Pixel-UI. And I also use G-Cam for the highest resolution images.
As a high expectation user, I must say that, use the Redmi Note 10 Pro with Pixel-UI and G-Cam for the highest performance and smooth using.
And yes, with the 6GB of RAM variant is enough for medium use like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.