knox vs overheating - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

i rooted then unrooted my s10 ,back to android 10 peacefully... since then it`s badly overheating........ always
does bricked knox cause the device to overheat?
if not , then why it happened ?
really need your help guys , cant play games , cant watch YouTube ...
is there any solution , fixing firmware or custom rom can save the day ?
thanks 2 u all

nothing yet ... disappointing

Factory reset

Player04 said:
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in vain
i did all could be done , problem emerged when i flashed custom rom , since then i had excessive hot , flashed stock firmware and just getting worse
is knox tripping the cause ? if not , then what ?

What you're saying shouldn't ideally happen. I've had Samsung devices for a while now, almost rooted every single one of them & found that the performance actually got better. Check for water damage, it's highly unlikely but it may be a culprit. If the problem persists, take it to Samsung (we all know their track record with heating batteries)

ubn77 said:
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i did all could be done , problem emerged when i flashed custom rom , since then i had excessive hot , flashed stock firmware and just getting worse
is knox tripping the cause ? if not , then what ?
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Knox being tripped would not cause overheating. Don't suppose an app you have installed is causing the issue?.
If your convinced the phone is overheating even if on stock firmware, I would think the problem is hardware related.
I suggest visiting a Samsung service centre.

IDK know about Knox problems but I have been having issues with Android 10 ever since I updated. It runs great for about 10-12 hours and then something happens... It starts getting hot, runs like crap, super slow, the face recognition will stop working... It gets do bad I can barely unlock the phone. A reboot seems to fix the problem but only temporarily. Inevitably it does it again
Edit: and just to add to that, when it's running good I get much better screen off battery life than I did on pie. Seems to run smoother but that may just be me. The battery life however is hugely different. I keep track of deep sleep stats and battery users with bbs and Gsam

Saumya Mishra said:
What you're saying shouldn't ideally happen. I've had Samsung devices for a while now, almost rooted every single one of them & found that the performance actually got better. Check for water damage, it's highly unlikely but it may be a culprit. If the problem persists, take it to Samsung (we all know their track record with heating batteries)
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i can say the one mistake i did was flashing the wrong version of lineage 17 ( accidentally and wiped all at once) , that where everything started , i was flashing many wrong roms in my ex-phones when i was very newbie , but non of them had overheating issue

robbo1947 said:
Knox being tripped would not cause overheating. Don't suppose an app you have installed is causing the issue?.
If your convinced the phone is overheating even if on stock firmware, I would think the problem is hardware related.
I suggest visiting a Samsung service centre.
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1 / ironically when i odined back stock and been worse , reflashed again a deoxed rom things became a little bit better , i can use my phone but can not play games , no 4k videos to watch

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[Q] Galaxy NOTE SOD problems.

My brother's galaxy note have been facing serious sod problems since he bought the phone at Nov 2012. After he faced it the 1st time , he sent to SC and got it back. After 1-2months the problem came again and he asked for my help. I persume it was because the malaysian firmware of the ICS was somewhat unstable from what i read from forums here and there. So i changed the firmware to JB duno from which country when it came out in MAC. After a week or so. The problem reappeared . So I just decided to root and chnge the kernel and also the ROM. Changed the ROM to a stock rom and a kernel. Still the problem persist. I'm out of options. Went to the ****ty SC and the idiots just factory reset the phone and give u back. BUNCH OF RETAR*S . (sorry for my languange)
Hope someone here may help me out with my problem. Thanks a million :laugh:
Check all the apps you have installed maybe you find the bad one whose causing it as you have mentioned it comes after sometime of installing a fresh rom and have you tried any aosp rom maybe that will fix the issue
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Check all the apps you have installed maybe you find the bad one whose causing it as you have mentioned it comes after sometime of installing a fresh rom and have you tried any aosp rom maybe that will fix the issue
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I just installed an aosp rom (PA) and I hope it fixes the problem. Well I've seen the amount of apps installed in the note and its jst a quarter the amount I have in the Galaxy S2 and my S2 works like a charm. The note has been giving me headache ever since I got it from my brother. Hope this does solve it , if not I guess its something else maybe hardware
Phone sod twice on paranoid android. FML! Guess im visiting SC tmrw again.
Same problem with me..
My Note 1 has SOD since 1st time bought it..
be patience to install JB --> still SOD
change kernel to SpeedMod 5.3 --> SOD again
change kernel to PhilZ --> sometimes SOD
I have read many information that related with SOD in galnote 1, my opinion it is related with hardware too.. sometimes
or it is related with kernel... it can not wake from deep sleep..
anyone have another better suggestion to cure this ?
if u're using pure stock rom still facing the same problems then definitely is hardware issues!
if ur device still under warranties suggest bring to SC ask them do a thorough check on it n let them know what's going on actually...
Yes, I use stock ROM still has SOD,
so it's hardware issue for sure...
but I will keep the phone for now because sometimes SC doesn't give solution to this..
psywarx said:
Yes, I use stock ROM still has SOD,
so it's hardware issue for sure...
but I will keep the phone for now because sometimes SC doesn't give solution to this..
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Yeah and they will give your phone back only doing a factory reset lol
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I too get this SOD once a week on my GT-N7000
Phone status when this happens:
stock JB(earlier ICS), non-rooted, data connection, wifi, GPS, bluetooth all disabled. Battery mostly above 80%.
Gmail, Google+, Facebook and all other social n/w apps disabled (yes, i am an oldtimer )
During SOD, if a third party calls my number, he hears it ringing, but my handset is dead as dodo (quite dangerous as the calling person may think i am not answering it)
i used to get this when it was on ICS and still getting it after i upgraded to JB.
Most of the time, SOD occurs during wee hours in morning ( i used battery monitor app that logs battery stats every 10 minutes to check the time when this happens).
Sometimes it occurs when the phone is in my jeans back pocket. phone needs a 10 second press on pwr switch to restart it.
Turning off the "power saver" mode seem to reduce the probability of SOD.
i have taken this phone to SC and they re-flashed the JB.
i told the SC chap that i have already done this and couple of factory resets, but he said that they do "much more" than just re-flashing through kies like calibrating camera, bluetooth )
does anyone in the know, know if this is indeed true ?
Thanks
-mprab
updates...
After 2 days of re-flashing at a samsung authorised service center, i got SoD 2 times in a period of 12 hours.
once last night and second time when i was traveling to office.
Last night i installed some bare-minimum apps back after waiting 2 days for any SoD to happen in "stock" condition.
Well.... i did not pay 30K to use the GNote as just a phone, so installed some basic apps (Battery monitor, Bangalore BMTC, RealCalc, GPS Test, ES File explorer and a first time app StatusLogger)
phone went dead at 1:00 am in morning and as usual there was no wakeup alarm.
phone was warm to touch when it was lying dead. The battery which was 96% at 00:30 AM had gone down to 54% at 7:00 AM.
Status logger did not show any loss of GSM signal which might have resulted in phone transmitting at higher power/hunting for signal etc.
The "radio" seemed working, because when i made a call to the dead phone from my landline, i could hear the phone ring instead of expected "phone is switched off" message i was expecting.
So this has to do with application processor going in some infinite loop.
Uninstalling all apps is NOT an option.
anyone know if we can establish any debug connection to phone and know what the hell CPU is up to in this situation ?
any processor logger that will periodically log all the processes running on phone ?
SOD resolved... not a single one since 6 months.
Hey guys, just wanted to share this info with you, I had SOD's like anything and did all freakingly possible things right from flashing roms to kernels, speed up CPU, banging my head in front of the dumb witted morons at samsung service... to get rid of that pain. What helped me was an app called "WAKELOCK" by darken which is merely 72kb in size but works wonders, not a single SOD after that. What u need to do is.... it has a list of presets that makes sure your cpu stays up. You need to select the preset called "partial wake lock" which is at no. 4, and viola...
It ensures that the CPU is running. No SOD ever after. Also, you need to make it autorun on boot from the options. Yea, it does eat up batter a bit more but its definitely manageable. I still need to charge my note only at night.
Just to be sure, I uninstalled it and guess what, SOD returned. So, do try it, I hope it helps...

Random reboots. Software or hardware issue?

Hi guys
I got an x1 few days ago. I'm very happy with the phone and I updated it to the new firmware 14.1.G.2.257.
In the last 3 days, after the update, I got 3 random reboots. I don't know if it was happening also with the old firmware cause I used it just for few hours.
Now I'd like to understand if it is a software problem so I need just to wait for a new firmware or it is an hardware issue so I need to return the phone.
Thanks to anyone would help me.
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Hi guys
I got an x1 few days ago. I'm very happy with the phone and I updated it to the new firmware 14.1.G.2.257.
In the last 3 days, after the update, I got 3 random reboots. I don't know if it was happening also with the old firmware cause I used it just for few hours.
Now I'd like to understand if it is a software problem so I need just to wait for a new firmware or it is an hardware issue so I need to return the phone.
Thanks to anyone would help me.
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in all honesty since having this phone i have not had one random reboot. When ever i upgrade firmware i always do a fullwipe to rule any issues out. But one thing i have seen happen is some apps can cause reboots, some apps cause wakelocks and some apps can cause battery drain. What i would do as a test is reflash firmware and dont install any other apps other than your standard google apps, see how that goes
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in all honesty since having this phone i have not had one random reboot. When ever i upgrade firmware i always do a fullwipe to rule any issues out. But one thing i have seen happen is some apps can cause reboots, some apps cause wakelocks and some apps can cause battery drain. What i would do as a test is reflash firmware and dont install any other apps other than your standard google apps, see how that goes
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thanks my only concern is about hardware but I don't think this is the case... maybe there is a bad memory management in this firmware? I read about other people having issues like this.
j0sh0 said:
thanks my only concern is about hardware but I don't think this is the case... maybe there is a bad memory management in this firmware? I read about other people having issues like this.
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I really dont know, i keep hearing so may contrasting issues with this phone. I have not had 1 issue with the phone, but everywhere i see soo many issues, im certain theres a bad batch of z1's out there. I don't think its a hardware issue in your case, i cant really be sure about the memory management becuase this newer firmwares changelog included better memory management. i really think you should start from scratch as a test, and slowly add other apps, this way you can slowly eliminate whats causing this issue.
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I really dont know, i keep hearing so may contrasting issues with this phone. I have not had 1 issue with the phone, but everywhere i see soo many issues, im certain theres a bad batch of z1's out there. I don't think its a hardware issue in your case, i cant really be sure about the memory management becuase this newer firmwares changelog included better memory management. i really think you should start from scratch as a test, and slowly add other apps, this way you can slowly eliminate whats causing this issue.
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It does make sense... I'll try

Galaxy Tab S 8.4 wifi lollipop upgrade is rubbish

After a lot of issues i just ended up downgrading back to kitkat on my galaxyTab S8.4 wifi, from lollipop.
Issues i was experiencing were:
-totally unreliable battery meter & performance. - Could read 100%, and 10 mins later would read 5% and turn off.
-screen flicker - lines would flicker across the screen randomly, usually before the device crashed.
-Rebooting - the device would randomly reboot, but usually happened 3-4 times per hour, making the device useless.
-screen freeze - the touchscreen would stop working randomly, usually before it rebooted itself.
Ive just gone back to kitkat (voided my warranty in the process) and its still to be seen if downgrading resolves the battery issue, but already the screen flicker seems to be gone. Il update after a day or two use.
Very annoyed with Samsung for releasing an unusable update that rendered the tablet useless & the solution was to load a rom myself, voiding the warranty.
Have experienced absolutely none of the issues you refer to on my SM-T805.
Runs just fine for me.
Downgrading to KITKAT doesn't void your warranty.
ashyx said:
Have experienced absolutely none of the issues you refer to on my SM-T805.
Runs just fine for me.
Downgrading to KITKAT doesn't void your warranty.
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I agree with ashyx , my tab s runs fine n dandy , sounds like you have a faulty unit schmintan
I don't know if your tablet has Knox, you can see status if you go under status in about device, usually, and see if it is "official" or not.
Far as what you did, before you went and loaded a ROM, I would have done a factory reset. Quite often, settings/apps brought over from a previous version cause issue. I don't care if the upgrade tells you too or not, read through the forums and you'll see it littered with people stating how they noticed a massive improvement after their upgrade once they factory reset. Yes, it does suck, but these days Android makes it very easy to do.
schmintan said:
After a lot of issues i just ended up downgrading back to kitkat on my galaxyTab S8.4 wifi, from lollipop.
Issues i was experiencing were:
-totally unreliable battery meter & performance. - Could read 100%, and 10 mins later would read 5% and turn off.
-screen flicker - lines would flicker across the screen randomly, usually before the device crashed.
-Rebooting - the device would randomly reboot, but usually happened 3-4 times per hour, making the device useless.
-screen freeze - the touchscreen would stop working randomly, usually before it rebooted itself.
Ive just gone back to kitkat (voided my warranty in the process) and its still to be seen if downgrading resolves the battery issue, but already the screen flicker seems to be gone. Il update after a day or two use.
Very annoyed with Samsung for releasing an unusable update that rendered the tablet useless & the solution was to load a rom myself, voiding the warranty.
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Hi, have you solved The issue downvrading? I have The same problems you described.
same issues
White lines then crashes, battery life under 4 hours,
Sounds like a case of broken hardware or one seriously misbehaving application. And in general, if nothing works, I'd recommend to do a full factory reset of the tablet after the lollipop upgrade (erasing all of your data and settings of course). The only issue that concerns me about lollipop is the increase in battery drain at idle. You need to hunt down for the apps that keep your tablet awake. But spend a full battery charge in minutes? No way. Impossible. Get the tablet replaced.
I've been having the same issues. When I did a clean install, the tablet worked fine. However, as I install various apps, the issue begins again. I haven't been able to identify a particular app.
Going to try Marshmallow and see if it's more stable
If you both post your apps list that might be interesting see if you both share an app?
bigaloz said:
I've been having the same issues. When I did a clean install, the tablet worked fine. However, as I install various apps, the issue begins again. I haven't been able to identify a particular app.
Going to try Marshmallow and see if it's more stable
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nope. no stable mm roms yet.
Well, I've upgraded to Marshmallow and whilst it took a few goes to get it up and running properly (problems with installing gapps) it's working fine (mostly) now.
I've only had it running for a day but it is much smoother and quicker than kitkat and lollipop. So far there hasn't been any random shutdowns. It's too early to say whether battery life is better.
The only problems I've had is the camera isn't working (haven't bothered to look for a fix yet) and auto rotation doesn't work all the time.
I'll keep you up to date on how things go but so far I'm very pleased with the upgrade. I might now upgrade my 10.5
schmintan said:
After a lot of issues i just ended up downgrading back to kitkat on my galaxyTab S8.4 wifi, from lollipop.
Issues i was experiencing were:
-totally unreliable battery meter & performance. - Could read 100%, and 10 mins later would read 5% and turn off.
-screen flicker - lines would flicker across the screen randomly, usually before the device crashed.
-Rebooting - the device would randomly reboot, but usually happened 3-4 times per hour, making the device useless.
-screen freeze - the touchscreen would stop working randomly, usually before it rebooted itself.
Ive just gone back to kitkat (voided my warranty in the process) and its still to be seen if downgrading resolves the battery issue, but already the screen flicker seems to be gone. Il update after a day or two use.
Very annoyed with Samsung for releasing an unusable update that rendered the tablet useless & the solution was to load a rom myself, voiding the warranty.
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Hola, which procedure did you follow to downgrade OS to kitkat? I m right now on official Lollipop without root.
I had a notion that even if we downgrade to kitkat screen flicker will remain.
Awaiting your reply- thanks in advance
schmintan said:
Very annoyed with Samsung for releasing an unusable update that rendered the tablet useless & the solution was to load a rom myself, voiding the warranty.
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If your issues are caused by Lollipop wouldn't everyone one else with Lollipop experience the same issues? I have absolutely none of the problems you mentioned and I have had Lollipop installed since it was first made available for this tab. Seems to me you more then likely have a hardware problem. You said you were going to update in a day or two but you haven't so far. I'm curious if downgrading solved your issues.
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schmintan said:
After a lot of issues i just ended up downgrading back to kitkat on my galaxyTab S8.4 wifi, from lollipop.
Issues i was experiencing were:
-totally unreliable battery meter & performance. - Could read 100%, and 10 mins later would read 5% and turn off.
-screen flicker - lines would flicker across the screen randomly, usually before the device crashed.
-Rebooting - the device would randomly reboot, but usually happened 3-4 times per hour, making the device useless.
-screen freeze - the touchscreen would stop working randomly, usually before it rebooted itself.
Ive just gone back to kitkat (voided my warranty in the process) and its still to be seen if downgrading resolves the battery issue, but already the screen flicker seems to be gone. Il update after a day or two use.
Very annoyed with Samsung for releasing an unusable update that rendered the tablet useless & the solution was to load a rom myself, voiding the warranty.
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i have found a fix for the white lines. but you need root
share the fix
zalso said:
i have found a fix for the white lines. but you need root
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what is the fix? please share! i have root, i have the problem, and it is super irritating!
Fix
brio09 said:
what is the fix? please share! i have root, i have the problem, and it is super irritating!
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here buddy http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-flicker-screen-freezes-t3374336#post66951302
I have the 8.4 and 10.5, both are stock running lollipop and neither device has had the issues you are having!
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screen freeze + screen flickers bright flash bars
random reboot, screen freeze and crazy screen flickers with bright flash bars), which occurred when it had low battery
(may be not relevant but have also just given up on firefox for chrome!)
this seems to sum up my experience in the last week or so, I thought I was heading for some hardware failure but parallels what others are reporting....
SM-T705Y running 5.0.2 (LRX22G)
looks like update from 20th May which would be around when this started

Catastrophic overheating on any ROM

Hello everybody, I've got my z2 pro a few days ago and almost from the first day I'm experiencing overheating problem. It not depends on ROM or software but it just heating over and over. When I'm putting it asleep - it cools down, but when I'm starting to use it - it heats much, usual temperature of CPU is above 45°C. I don't know if it's a bug or a hardware issue but i can't get my money back next I've got this device from some guy on my local analog of eBay over post and now I'm asking you to help me to cool it down at least a bit. What I've already tried is underclocking, restoring to stock ZUI, editing thermal config and i think that's all. On stock it's a bit cooler but only on a few degrees, and when I'm starting to watch YouTube or just serfing web - it's starts to heat very quickly. Thanks for your attention and please, if somebody know some way to fix it - tell me! That would be awesome!:fingers-crossed:
I got a zuk z2 pro a couple of days ago and tried cosmicOS and now I'm on AEX 5.2. I got overheating on both ROMs. I haven't seen people talking about overheating in the threads about these ROMs, so I assume it's a problem with our devices, maybe? Have you solved your problem or you just got rid of your zuk?
The best way is to flash zui 1.9.104 by qfil . It lock your bootloader . Then update to 2.5.462 by ota . Unlock bootloader and flash the last firmware 3.5.259 and custom rom of your choice .
mar.ur said:
The best way is to flash zui 1.9.104 by qfil . It lock your bootloader . Then update to 2.5.462 by ota . Unlock bootloader and flash the last firmware 3.5.259 and custom rom of your choice .
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I'll try that on the next weekend when I have some time to work on that. Thanks
kingracer said:
Hello everybody, I've got my z2 pro a few days ago and almost from the first day I'm experiencing overheating problem. It not depends on ROM or software but it just heating over and over. When I'm putting it asleep - it cools down, but when I'm starting to use it - it heats much, usual temperature of CPU is above 45°C. I don't know if it's a bug or a hardware issue but i can't get my money back next I've got this device from some guy on my local analog of eBay over post and now I'm asking you to help me to cool it down at least a bit. What I've already tried is underclocking, restoring to stock ZUI, editing thermal config and i think that's all. On stock it's a bit cooler but only on a few degrees, and when I'm starting to watch YouTube or just serfing web - it's starts to heat very quickly. Thanks for your attention and please, if somebody know some way to fix it - tell me! That would be awesome!:fingers-crossed:
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have same problem but it always start after a few days of flashing new rom but it happens on every rom zui aex and same thing happened on zuk z2 plus i didnt find anything about it everyone just said to flash kernel or smth like that
kondzi0 said:
have same problem but it always start after a few days of flashing new rom but it happens on every rom zui aex and same thing happened on zuk z2 plus i didnt find anything about it everyone just said to flash kernel or smth like that
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If it's not starting to overheat in the first day of usage of new ROM - then you just should find ROM without overheating, because in your case - it's software-related issue and nothing more. Mine was with bad thermointerface or smth like that... And now i'm not an owner of zuk anymore so i cant test any of available ROMs to check if it happens to me

Is samsung ruining our devices intentionally?

i have a display issue with my note 8 (N950f), the screen gets greenish and messes up the colors making it very unpleasant to look at (started happening right after september 2020 update) i could fix it by pressing the power button, taping the screen to turn on always on display but then it would switch back to that annoying green display after seconds or minutes (weirdly enough the Always On Display is always good and never shows any green), so i tried to fix it by : Factory reseting, clearing cache, flashing stock os, custom roms pie, 10, 11, nothing worked until i tried flashing a custom kernel (Phantom Kernel for Pie) on a stock os. that fixes the green screen issue temporarily (2 to 3 weeks) i mean it's still there but it gets green very rarely, until it starts to gradually get worse overtime. And also im not the only one! i found another user @B3anbeanbean who has the EXACT problem and he fixes it like i do with the phantom kernel. This can't be a coincidence.
If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.
blackhawk said:
If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.
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mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.
omae_wa said:
mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.
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If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.
blackhawk said:
If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.
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if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.
omae_wa said:
if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.
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Ever wonder what happens when one or a couple dozen of the billions of transistors in the processor fails?
Firmware doesn't just of a sudden fail, hardware does.
Firmware can get corrupted. Did you ever reflash the original stock firmware version back onto it?
You know verify the firmware load was intact?
You probably lost some digital pathways and/or memory cells in the CPU or another chipset.
The current firmware for whatever reason(s) doesn't use them.
Major carriers like AT&T, Verizon etc are partnered with Samsung and actively dictate what software and firmware goes in those phones to Samsung.
What could go wrong?
I personally never update, rooted and up... well (actually downdates) turned off for all its days.
although to answer the question directly, in my opinion yes spammy ruins stuff for more sales (aka rips off it's customers) then inturn they eventually never want to see a spammed cell again. so realistically they loose money, not a smart choice obviously, but when blinded by greed all kinds stuff will happen.

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