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I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?

8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Definitely worth it. Only thing you're downgrading from is the screen resolution which you'll barely notice. Everything else will be an upgrade from the N6
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8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Depends ... My bad price level starts at 500?

I got the Pixel 2 XL and am extremely happy I did, I have not regrets and would do it again, although I had to swallow twice on the price. Knowing I have a phone that will last 3-4 or more years made it easier. It was the biggest screen, dual front speakers, and not a proprietary manufacturer that loads tons of bloat. :good: Those were my priorities.
I was seriously considering OnePlus because of development support, until their latest (and continual) spyware escapade. No! No! No! - bad juju - once burned twice smart

Do you think if it's worth to trade for a Pixel 2 XL?

I'm currently in the situation where I'm not sure if I should trade my P20 Pro. I'm really into taking photos but not as professional more as a point and shoot. I feel like the P20 Pro is a good camera but it needs a lot of tweaking especially when you use point and shoot.
Does it make sense to trade it for the maybe better camera and the better software experience? (faster updates)
I'm not really sure and I'd love to hear what you guys say

No, some pixels 2 can lag due to unknown problems and the battery isn't that great.

RiTCHiE007 said:
No, some pixels 2 can lag due to unknown problems and the battery isn't that great.
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What do you exactly mean? Is that a known issue? How big is the battery of the Pixel 2 XL? Isn't it 3500 mah?

The Pixel phones have pretty terrible build quality and you almost never read about the many problems people experience with Pixel phones unless you go to the official Google Support Site. Google launched the Pixel XL and 2XL for $1000 but reduced the price of both by $500 6 months after launch. Instead of reducing the price of the 2XL on Google's own site like they did with the first XL the $500 discount was available at electronics stores like Best Buy but the end result was the same.
I owned Nexus phones and purchased the Pixel XL at launch for $1000 so I was previously a fan of Google devices but the Pixel XL & 2XL only have $500 phone build quality to begin with. They are overpriced, feel cheap and are riddled with serious hardware issues. I think you would be making a really big mistake to swap a real flagship phone for Google's fake flagship.

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What do you exactly mean? Is that a known issue? How big is the battery of the Pixel 2 XL? Isn't it 3500 mah?
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yea, just watch the MKBHD video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5zZnuB71w << Not all pixel 2 phones have this but there are many that have this and google dont know what causes the problem.

Looking for advice.

Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.

Daedaleus said:
Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.
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I think a better way to do it is you lay down your requirements and what you want from a phone and your general usage of the phone.

Generally Speaking...
Basically, I am looking for something as good as my Pixel 2 XL, but with more life and longevity in it. Ideally, I would like something with more ram, better processor and greater battery life. I have special needs children and my phone is a lifeline. It keeps me in touch with doctors, family, information as well as organized and entertained. I play some games on it but the most taxing is maybe Transformers; Earth Wars. Don't do a lot of streaming. I do have a habit of keeping documents, writing notes or reference material handy. Storage is a consideration. I currently have a 128 gb but don't see anything available from my carrier (Verizon) except for the 64 gb.
What I am interested in is any known issues to look out for or be aware of. I have had very little trouble with my 2 XL, but my Wife suffered with a lot of crashes, freezes, missed calls etc. Even her battery life went to crap. I use my fingerprint scanner a lot. As I understand it, the 4 XL doesn't have it. Had anyone noticed an issue adapting? Is the facial recognition very effective or is it glitchy?
In short, is the 4 XL a solid investment or is it more prudent to try and wait for the 5 XL? Any personal feedback or experience is greatly appreciated.

I had a Pixel 2 XL and it was just fine, but I moved to a Galaxy Note 10+. Don't get me wrong I have always loved Note line but ever since Samsung locked US variant bootloaders I just couldn't get jiggy with it anymore.
So now I have a Pixel 4 XL, like you I was scared of not having the rear fingerprint sensor but let me tell you Face Unlock is great and it's just as good as Apple's Face ID. I know me personally, I like having total control over my device so that's why I chose to go with Pixel again. Yes there are people who will rant and rave about the 4 but I haven't experienced any issues and am loving this device. Especially with it being heavily discounted it was a steal to me.

We're pretty much at the halfway point from when the 4 was released and when the 5 will be. You've waiter this long so why not wait another 6 months?
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Well, a minute amount of moisture found its way into my charging port one morning, apparently. By night time I plugged it in and things happened. Long story short, I spent a few days in terror until I found another cord that would work to charge. It's worked great all things considered but now is finicky about how you plug it in. So, I was weighting replacement as soon as I pay it off or if it will last long enough for the 5 XL. Right now I can't use the port for data transfer or accessories, just charging.

Daedaleus said:
Well, a minute amount of moisture found its way into my charging port one morning, apparently. By night time I plugged it in and things happened. Long story short, I spent a few days in terror until I found another cord that would work to charge. It's worked great all things considered but now is finicky about how you plug it in. So, I was weighting replacement as soon as I pay it off or if it will last long enough for the 5 XL. Right now I can't use the port for data transfer or accessories, just charging.
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Ah okay. Sorry I didn't realize the port was that bad. I came from a Pixel 2 XL and I felt it was worth the upgrade. At it's current price it's definitely worth the price. And actually I take back that we're only 6 months away because I wouldn't get another Pixel on day one. They keep screwing over early adopters and discounting during Black Friday.
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Daedaleus said:
Basically, I am looking for something as good as my Pixel 2 XL, but with more life and longevity in it. Ideally, I would like something with more ram, better processor and greater battery life. I have special needs children and my phone is a lifeline. It keeps me in touch with doctors, family, information as well as organized and entertained. I play some games on it but the most taxing is maybe Transformers; Earth Wars. Don't do a lot of streaming. I do have a habit of keeping documents, writing notes or reference material handy. Storage is a consideration. I currently have a 128 gb but don't see anything available from my carrier (Verizon) except for the 64 gb.
What I am interested in is any known issues to look out for or be aware of. I have had very little trouble with my 2 XL, but my Wife suffered with a lot of crashes, freezes, missed calls etc. Even her battery life went to crap. I use my fingerprint scanner a lot. As I understand it, the 4 XL doesn't have it. Had anyone noticed an issue adapting? Is the facial recognition very effective or is it glitchy?
In short, is the 4 XL a solid investment or is it more prudent to try and wait for the 5 XL? Any personal feedback or experience is greatly appreciated.
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I'd say wait for the 5 or even the 4a and save some buck. 4xl battery is very similar to 2x or even worse sometimes. The face unlock on the 4xl works great and it will not be an issue for you.
I think you should consider 4a and get the pixel buds together for less or similar price you will get a 4xl but that's what my thoughts are. Your usage is not too heavy so you can do away with a mid-range pixel easily.

Also, don't forget channels such as Craig's List or OfferUp. You can find great deals there. I bought a brand-new 128-GB Pixel 4 XL on OfferUp for $400. Awesome deal. The best deals are from people who got something as a present or won it, because they have no financial stake in it; to them, whatever money they get is 'profit'. In fact, I buy all my electronics on Craig's List or OfferUp, oftentimes brand-new in box and otherwise like-new.
You can always wait for the next big thing, but you'll never buy anything if you do that, because there's always a new, shinier device around the corner (or at least on the horizon). If the Pixel 5 XL was a matter of weeks, then yes, I'd say you should wait for it, but if you can find a great deal on a Pixel 4 XL now, jump on it. You won't regret it. I love my Pixel 4 XL.
I actually sold my Galaxy S10+ to get the Pixel 4 XL (or rather, return to Pixel, since I had a Pixel 3 XL and Pixel 2 XL before). I just prefer the overall Pixel experience. Yes, looking at pure specs, the Pixel 4 XL is a bit behind other flagship phones. That said, the Pixel 4 XL takes much better photos than the Galaxy S10+, which overprocesses and oversaturates photos and doesn't focus nearly as fast as Pixel. Photos taken on my Pixel *always* turn out great, whereas it's hit or miss with the Galaxy S10+. I thought I'd really miss the ultrawide camera on the Galaxy S10+, but I don't, really. The consistently great shots on my Pixel 4 XL more than make up for that.
Specs aren't everything---it's the total experience that matters, and in my view Pixel kills it here.
Face unlock on my Pixel 4 XL works flawlessly. It's so fast you sometimes forget it's actually working. It's not until you're out and about with a face mask on that you realize it's actually doing its job because it doesn't recognize you then (understandably, of course). The finger print scanner on the Galaxy S10+ sucks, plain and simple.
I haven't had any issues in terms of battery life. Yes, the Pixel 4 XL perhaps doesn't last as long in a battery-drain-to-zero contest, but that's not terribly realistic in everyday use. I can easily make it through the day, and I'm always close enough to a charger (in the car, for example) to top up the phone if I have to. The supposed horrible battery life has never been an issue for me.
In short, get the Pixel 4 XL if you can find a good deal on it. You won't regret it!
--Ron

The only thing about the 4 xl that is "worse" than the 2 xl is the battery. That being said, mine still gets me through the day even if I play Pokemon go or something for an hour and stream YouTube music in the car and general browsing and YouTube usage. It's not bad, just not as good as the 2 xl was. And be careful with the a series pixels. I tried the 3a and you notice the mid tier processor. I couldn't take it. The 3a is a good phone but for me, I didn't like the slow down of the processor.
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Daedaleus said:
Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.
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I have just made the switch from the 2 XL for the exact same reason and while I can't comment on battery life I am happy with the phone so far

Pixel 2xl issues. Should I get Pixel 4xl or wait for Pixel 4a?

My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?

frontier02 said:
My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?
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For $300 bux off I would go with the 4XL. I don't think the price will ever be lower. I bought two 4XL's at $200 off at the first price drop around Thanksgiving. I have had zero issues with either one. It's entirely a personal opinion, but I think it would be well worth the current $100 delta between the 4 and 4a.

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My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?
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Frontier02, at $300 off the Pixel 4XL it's a no brainer. I am on my second 4XL, the first one in black I got as soon as they launched, gave that to friend and got the white one next. It has been my daily driver just about every day since the fall. I also have an iPhone X max which I use once every blue moon just to see what ios is about (nothing exciting seems to happen) and I have an S20 Plus. I will pop the sim in that phone for a day at a time, it's a nice phone, great screen but the 4XL just fits me better, haptics, face unlock, etc.
You will love the 4XL, no doubt.

I upgraded to the 4xl from the 2xl on Friday. It's not a huge upgrade in speed or battery life in my opinion. Slightly better performace, about the same battery life. The 4xl does feel a lot nicer but that only really matters if you don't use a case. Still getting used to face unlock but it works good. I'm still happy with the purchase considering the $300 off. My choices are limited because I use Google Fi and non Fi phones don't do the network switching. My recommendation is flash the factory image on your 2xl. If it's still slow w/ a broken camera I'd buy the 4xl while it's on sale. I would not recommend the upgrade to someone with a working 2xl.

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I upgraded to the 4xl from the 2xl on Friday. It's not a huge upgrade in speed or battery life in my opinion. Slightly better performace, about the same battery life. The 4xl does feel a lot nicer but that only really matters if you don't use a case. Still getting used to face unlock but it works good. I'm still happy with the purchase considering the $300 off. My choices are limited because I use Google Fi and non Fi phones don't do the network switching. My recommendation is flash the factory image on your 2xl. If it's still slow w/ a broken camera I'd buy the 4xl while it's on sale. I would not recommend the upgrade to someone with a working 2xl.
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I would try flashing the factory images but my company requires 2 factor authentication and to set it up you need a camera. So if I do that and the camera is still broken I can't log into to works computer till I get another phone with a camera that works. I would hate to have to waste the IT guys time twice sending the information to this phone again and not work then doing it again for new phone.

Just purchased the Pixel 4xl. Now eagerly waiting for it to get here, lol.

My Pixel 2XL has been working awesome but lately I feel like I have to keep my finger on the print reader longer or touch it several time for it to read. I just performed a factory reset and I think I'll reset all my prints as well, but I'm not happy with the print reader. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the 4 or wait for 4a. I'd rather keep my 2XL until it dies.
Also, I've been keeping my eye on the Motorola line of phones.... They seem to be coming out with some nice ones

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My Pixel 2XL has been working awesome but lately I feel like I have to keep my finger on the print reader longer or touch it several time for it to read. I just performed a factory reset and I think I'll reset all my prints as well, but I'm not happy with the print reader. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the 4 or wait for 4a. I'd rather keep my 2XL until it dies.
Also, I've been keeping my eye on the Motorola line of phones.... They seem to be coming out with some nice ones
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I tried the Moto G Power and returned it within 3 days. The Moto was so slow that it was painful to use. I decided that I wanted to get the Pixel 4 xl from Best Buy at $300 off, but when I arrived at the store they had an open box Pixel 4 xl for $497. The associate let me check it out and it appeared to be brand new so I bought it instead of the new sealed Pixel. Check your local Best Buy for open box phones, you may luck out like I did. The Pixel 4 xl is worth the extra money over the Moto G Power for sure.

I have the 2XL as well and yesterday I ordered the 4XL. Originally I wanted to wait for the 4a, but since the 4 series has launched I have been drooling for the 4XL... Many have negative opinions about the 4s, but I seem to love every bit of it. The look, display, software, camera etc... I expect the DPD driver to turn up today with the phone so I have been sitting in the window since this morning waiting impatiently.... Neighbours probably think something went wrong with me....

frontier02 said:
Just purchased the Pixel 4xl. Now eagerly waiting for it to get here, lol.
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I've made the same jump and had my 4 XL for a few days and it's a very nice upgrade without being a massive jump away from what I'm used to, the camera is great the phone is much nicer in the hand can't say to much about battery yet but I'm not disappointed with it

P4 user here. 90 hz is actually amazing. Cannot imagine to go back.

The 4a is a downgrade from the 4 XL, and with the 4 XL being $300 off, it's a no brainer to get the 4 XL now.

Also, don't forget channels such as Craig's List or OfferUp. You can find great deals there. I bought a brand-new 128-GB Pixel 4 XL on OfferUp for $400. Awesome deal. The best deals are from people who got something as a present or won it, because they have no financial stake in it; to them, whatever money they get is 'profit'. In fact, I buy all my electronics on Craig's List or OfferUp, oftentimes brand-new in box and otherwise like-new.
If you can get a good deal on the 4 XL now, I'd get it. It's a great phone providing a great user experience. Awesome camera, 90 Hz refresh is smooth, face unlock is super-fast and accurate (don't miss the 3 XL's fingerprint scanner at all). All around great phone that focuses on usability, not just specs.
As opposed to the Galaxy S10+, which has inferior cameras that overprocess and oversaturate photos and has blurring issues with moving subjects (because it's slow focusing), and with a terrible in-screen fingerprint scanner. Photos taken on my Pixel *always* turn out great, whereas it's hit or miss with the Galaxy S10+. I thought I'd really miss the ultrawide camera on the Galaxy S10+, but I don't, really. The consistently great shots on my Pixel 4 XL more than make up for that. Specs aren't everything---it's the total experience that matters, and in my view Pixel kills it here.
Face unlock on my Pixel 4 XL works flawlessly. It's so fast you sometimes forget it's actually working. It's not until you're out and about with a face mask on that you realize it's actually doing its job because it doesn't recognize you then (understandably, of course).
I haven't had any issues in terms of battery life. Yes, the Pixel 4 XL perhaps doesn't last as long in battery-drain-to-zero contests, but that's not terribly realistic in everyday use. I can easily make it through the day, and I'm always close enough to a charger (in the car, for example) to top up the phone if I have to. The supposed horrible battery life has never been an issue for me.
In short, get the Pixel 4 XL if you can find a good deal on it. You won't regret it!
--Ron

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P4 user here. 90 hz is actually amazing. Cannot imagine to go back.
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Can never go back after 90hz

Question Are you getting a Pixel 5a?

It looks really good, but without a 90hz or higher screen, it's difficult for me to justify.

I am curious if we can trick Google to recognize a 5a as a 4a 5G, for some free "High quality backup" in Google Photos - as there aren't many differences between the two devices. Same silicon, same RAM and storage configuration, almost the same screen size.

I pre-ordered one. I got talked into it while asking about security/software updates on a budget phone forum here. It is more than I expected to spend, but people made me realize I don't know how to quantify the extra costs/risks of other manufacturers adding their own software on top of the android part that Google is patching.
I would be happy to pay less and reduce the specs further in some ways, but I am thinking about it as cost per year of software support, so I won't consider the older models that already have 1 or more years of their software life spent on the shelf... I'd probably be satisfied if it had 4GB RAM, 64GB flash, and LCD instead of OLED but with the same software. I am interested to see how the 5G works out w/ T-Mobile. (Edit: for reference, my current phone is a Moto G7 Play with 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, and a 720 pix wide screen. It is usable for me, but definitely shows its limits...)
Our last Google phone was a Nexus 5X. We went on a budget quest after that, thinking pixels were too expensive. We thought Moto was a decent value for a while, but I've been growing unhappy with their worsening software support. I.e. only 2 years and not even monthly on the budget models.

Yep, preordered mine.

No, I ordered the Galaxy S20 Plus from Google Fi for $50 less than the Pixel 5a. I am not a Samsung fan, but that's too much phone to pass up for $399.

Undecided. Would like the larger screen. If TWRP was an easy install (compared to 4a), would jump on it. Will probably wait another year (or two).

Personally, I will not. But I hope that people will be okay with the stuff that we see. It’s a lot of aspects that have been made with the stuff that we can talk about. It’s really cool that there have been solid phones over the years and I love that the Pixel continues to be a strong Android phone.

I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.

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I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.
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If I'm not mistaken the 4a5g as well as the 5 all have the same camera setup and all experience the same overheating issue. Therefore, if this is true and Google has not "yet" done anything to resolve the issue then either they are unwilling to fix the problem, or they are unable to do so. I'm still getting one because I rarely even use the camera on any phone.

I did pre order the Pixel 5a for myself, will get rid of my iPhone 12 Pro Max then. Last Pixel I used and still have as a secondary home device is the Pixel 4 XL, which I loved, except for the absolute crap battery life, that thing blew for battery stamina, other than that running Android 12 beta 4 on it and it's smooth as hot butter.
If the Pixel 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4 XL, I'm fine with that, but I really need great battery life for my job out in the field a lot and on the go, don't have time to charge often. And I thought last years Pixel 5 was a bit too small, and I find my 12 Pro Max a bit too large, so an in-between phone size is exactly what I want, and good battery life. 6" display too small, and 6.7"+ size too large.
Like I said if the 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4XL, then I'm all good.
And man I can't wait to be rid of iOS, just such a frustrating OS and screwy way it works and Apple Maps blows.

Pre-ordered one from Google Fi for the wife. $15/month for 2 years including insurance on their subscription plan. She doesn't want to give up her Nexus 6P so I may change over to it from my Pixel 3XL.

I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.

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I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.
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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?

jaseman said:
I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?
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There in lays the trick. Apparently Google is clamping down on such shenanigans. Currently it appears my option is to have a friend who lives in Japan, order a US version, ship it there and pay import charges, then have him ship to me. I'm guessing but that'll put the cost of 5a into the 6/pro price range... And if that's the case, I'd be better off getting that directly from Google.
I'm the meantime, I'll hold onto my $'s and see what's what with the 6 and 6Pro and decide then. After all it's not like my 4a isn't doing the job

I pre-ordered. I have been holding out on replacing my 2 XL. No newer features, even flagship, were that appealing and I held out as long as I could since I cracked the screen on the 2 XL. All I need is stock android updates and long battery time. I don't play games, so not terribly concerned with the 60hz.

I preordered one as well. My first pure google phone. Can't wait to give it a try.

Pre-ordered mine along with the pixel a buds. Definitely looking forward to it. I know ill likely get one of the 6's as well lol.

I received notice that mine shipped today. It's supposed to be here Friday EOD.

If it ever launches in India, I am getting 2.

Oh well, started the RMA for mine this morning. Freezes up too often when streaming YouTube videos. Hesitates too much when scrolling through web pages. Gets hot using camera. Still on June 5th patch???? Hate the Pixel launcher. Had to put Nova on it! Just cannot compete with my OnePlus 8T. Say what you will about the evolution of OnePlus...but my last 3 phones from them have all been great! Still hard to beat for the $$$$$ I highly doubt that I will ever buy another Pixel. $35.00 restocking fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMH