So taking a look at my screenshot after a long 14 hour work day I'm down to 35% yet with only 1.44hr of OST. I've seen numerous reports about 5/6/7 hours OST but the most I've gotten was 5 hours and change with the battery all the way down to no more than 10% and that's with battery saver automatically activated at 20%. I do not have force 90hz on anymore for the past week and I'm currently rooted in December patch stock kernel and minimal magisk modules installed. Running substratum of course and Viper. Nothing else really fancy going in with my setup. Been eyeing down better battery stats and nothing is hogging battery consumption in the background. Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated. And yes I'm aware of the disappointing battery size but I believe I should still be seeing much better performance than this.
It's normal for a device with a small battery. Check if you have any wakelocks and start carying a portable charger
Do you have the P4 XL?
I'm on force 90 hz, mobile network all day, 90% brightness level, rooted with magisk, only thing I'm not using is motion sense (not available in my country and don't want to force it with any module yet) and get 6-7 hours SOT easily
You "Full charge lasts about" is still a decent 19 hour and 15 minutes so do you always end around 35% and under 2 hours SOT? Do you stream something with the screen off most the day?
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otrobruno said:
Do you have the P4 XL?
I'm on force 90 hz, mobile network all day, 90% brightness level, rooted with magisk, only thing I'm not using is motion sense (not available in my country and don't want to force it with any module yet) and get 6-7 hours SOT easily
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That's what I don't understand I feel like I should be getting that type of battery life as well
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You "Full charge lasts about" is still a decent 19 hour and 15 minutes so do you always end around 35% and under 2 hours SOT? Do you stream something with the screen off most the day?
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I'm always checking for walelocks and I have nothing abnormal going in there and I even have a dozen apps battery restricted
FFS, don't believe the stupid train on SOT being a remotely valid indicator of a device's battery life. your SOT will never match the next person's nor will it be a reliable indicator that you'll get that amount the next day. you should be measuring your battery drain rate and determining what's causing your battery to get eaten up through the day.
I do agree that SoT is not a good indicator. For starters, a device with a screen at 100% brightness doing the same workload as a device with a screen at 50% brightness will have wildly different SoT. The SoT is only perhaps relevant to you individually, and only after a long time of use when enough data was gathered for you to know the actual average SoT.
I mean my full charge lasts about 16 hours, but yet some days get 7 hours sot and others 3, it's all in how you use it. I'm still stock and haven't rooted.
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Please rate your screen on time to the nearest half hour.
If you respond to the poll, please reply as well so more can see it.
If you have abnormally hi/low times please post your thoughts on why.
I'm going to take this chance to recommend you use Firefox instead of Chrome for internet browsing. Not sure why but Chrome just uses a lot of power. I frequently see 30% ratings on the battery usage stats screen.
Switching to Firefox and unless I go above 6 or so tabs I'm almost always ~half Chrome's power usage. So, 15-20% max usually.
conclusion:
75% of users get >3.5h screen on time.
3.5 hours with Dalvik.
Switched to ART Saturday night and first day on Sunday and again today was pushing 4 hours SOT, so a slight improvement. Have to wait and see if it improves over time as I have not had any FC's with any of the apps I use so I'll keep running ART to see if that helps.
Google Now is on, screen set at 10% (auto way too aggressive), Location set to Mode - Battery Saving (I know if I switched to Device Only that could help, but then Google Now location based cards don't work) so leaving it on for now.
This is pretty hard to reply on just because I never let my phone get down to 1% to have a gauge of SOT. Do I partake in the poll if I'm at 40% at the end of my day with 2h54min SOT?
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This is pretty hard to reply on just because I never let my phone get down to 1% to have a gauge of SOT. Do I partake in the poll if I'm at 40% at the end of my day with 2h54min SOT?
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I would extrapolate, you probably get 4h being pessimistic. Your battery stats might be off.
rancur3p1c said:
I would extrapolate, you probably get 4h being pessimistic. Your battery stats might be off.
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bump for more poll results! please vote!
While I'm curious where this goes I urge ppl. not to take results as reference as user patterns differ wildly. Syncing, Now!, BT, data on/off, 2G or 3G or LTE, GPS or network location, apps, brightness, sleep time all can make a difference in SoT.
I noticed that I'm getting more battery drain when I set location to battery saving mode. I noticed when I was on battery saving mode that it was causing Google services to run much longer.
I have all connections on. Bluetooth, push services, exact location, location reporting, Google now, screen brightness on auto. I get roughly 3-4 hrs of SOT.
Running cataclysm and Franco r13
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5 hours give or take a half an hour. Can do six.
4hr SOT if I use until battery hits ~5%.
Often getting 2hr SOT at about 50% remaining.
50% wifi, 45% lte, 5% airplaneMode, bluetooth/nfc always on, auto-brightness on, data sync on
Location reporting on (battery saving mode), GNow off
using dalvik, stock rom, stock kernel
6 hours franco r13
Best is seven and a half hours. But that was a bit of a best possible conditions environment and screen was at manual 20% brightness.
Faux kernel.
I get an average of 5 hours with my phone.
what are you all getting without Faux123's 002 kernel?
I'm on 003 with underclocking wow big difference in drain.
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4hr SOT if I use until battery hits ~5%.
Often getting 2hr SOT at about 50% remaining.
50% wifi, 45% lte, 5% airplaneMode, bluetooth/nfc always on, auto-brightness on, data sync on
Location reporting on (battery saving mode), GNow off
using dalvik, stock rom, stock kernel
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thanks.
I Always have LTE off unless i'm tethering, HSPA+ is fast enough for phone use. Screen is always below 50%, google now off, location at battery saving. all sync is set to off/manual. wifi/bt almost always on. I do about 1.5 hours of a2dp streaming per day.
With all of those conditions I have seen 4-4.5 hours over a 2 day discharge cycle. I could probably get another hour if I used my phone over the course of 1 day instead of 2.
3.5 hours average per day/charge with an hour of games. 4.5 hours with no games.
Wifi+Data, 30% brightness Google Now on, most Google sync off, GPS: battery saving.
5.5-6.5 hours on mobile moderate use and every sensor on. Only change is manual 25-30% brightness. This phone is multiples brighter than anything I've used. If it had lower minimums I would keep in on auto. The n7 is the same way.
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5.5-6.5 hours on mobile moderate use and every sensor on. Only change is manual 25-30% brightness. This phone is multiples brighter than anything I've used. If it had lower minimums I would keep in on auto. The n7 is the same way.
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Lux is quite good at managing auto brightness, you can set a lower average. Not sure if it's compatible with 4.4 just yet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite
These results are pretty encouraging imo. I'll be coming from an HTC Rezound that usually gets around 2 hrs of SOT, so it looks like this will most likely be an improvement according to the poll. I'd love an extra hour to an hour and a half of SOT compared to what I usually get
Consider this a bump I guess, since I can't actually vote yet. Just getting more and more excited cause I just got my shipping notification today.
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well, my iphone 5 lasted 5 days while playing skyrim 31.
So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
Yes but I'm saying i get a max of 4 hours SOT with absolutely no gaming. All i do is text and use normal stuff like twitter and instagram.
My device at the same, up to 5 SOT
Do you think battery problems on this device?
Edit: 8-10 hours standby -> %10 battery drain...
Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
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So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
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JasonJoel said:
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
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Do you think battery problems on this device?
Edit: 8-10 hours standby -> %10 battery drain...
Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
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I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
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Just wait for Lollipop update and the excessive battery drain will be gone. With KitKat I had around 10% or more battery drain overnight, but now I'm having at most 1%-2% with the same synced settings, so it was a huge improve, believe me.
Besides this, try to disable Moto Actions (except camera wrist), keep those sensors awake all the time drain a lot of battery. The exclamation sign inside the battery should be present in around 5% battery left.
Also, as far as I know, Turbo will be updated directly to 5.1, so it would be better, but hope that Verizon crap-ware doesn’t ruin the update.
Im seriously considering buying this device as it is quite good priced now and it ticks all my needs.
But I dont know what to think of batterlife in day to day usage. Some say its perfectly fine, some say not....
I considered X too, which is good enough on battery for me, with Nougat updated.
How is X Performance after Nougat update?
Any better?
Please share some insights.
Like: percentage used after 1hr videoplay, and after 1hr browsing, and 1hr playing.
Im coming from Z1c with kitkat, which battery performance im quite satisfied ( 6-8hr SoT) and Im affraid to make a wrong choice going for X Performance instead of X, concerning batterylife.
My usage routine is Stamina on, background data off, and no battery drainig social or other apps.
Would like some help in deciding....
This info would be nice to have, as I'm in the same boat as you. I've heard good things about Z5 battery life with Nougat, though...
I get about the same as on my z3
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I get about the same as on my z3
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That would be superb.
Is your rooted or not?
And please some more info, your usage pattern, aproximate Screen on Time?
I get a little less usage out of this device per charge than I did from my Z3. With my Z3, I was getting 2 days easily. With the X Performance, I can get anywhere from 1.5 to 2 days depending on whether or not Google Play Services decides to keep my device awake. I use my phone very liberally throughout the day: light browsing, some Reddit, occasional calls (maybe a half hour each day), etc. I found the Nougat update made the battery life a lot better on the X Performance. I don't have any solid stats for screen on time but I think I get anywhere from 2-2.5hrs over the two days.
Thanks a lot. .
So how about your SoT after battery goes below 10%. What does it say under batteryusage, screen, how much hr of usage?
I'm just charging my phone now, so I'll let it run down and I'll report my SoT when it's around 10%
I'm at 22% right now with 1:16 SoT. This was not the greatest run because Google Play Services used up 13% of my battery. Generally, I get around 2:00 SoT over two days and Phone Idle takes up the most battery. If I see my battery draining quicker than I'm used to, I'll reboot my device and that stops Google Play Services from wasting more battery. I'm really hoping this issue will be fixed in a future update. Hope this helps!
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I'm at 22% right now with 1:16 SoT. This was not the greatest run because Google Play Services used up 13% of my battery. Generally, I get around 2:00 SoT over two days and Phone Idle takes up the most battery. If I see my battery draining quicker than I'm used to, I'll reboot my device and that stops Google Play Services from wasting more battery. I'm really hoping this issue will be fixed in a future update. Hope this helps!
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Oh man, you are indeed a different pattern user than me.
1:15 hr SOT while your screen says 11%.....deriving from that its good.
But that idle and google play services percentage is bad.
I m using with background data off, just in intervals, and Stamina on, and location info off. I believe it ll get much better endurance in idle that way. But I also leave active the few apps I want, like Viber in battery stamina settings.
Try playing with those settings to get some better idle time.
Thanks a lot.
Just as a follow up: I heavily used my phone last night and I'm at 1:20 SoT (15 hours off the charger) with 70% battery left. Depending on your usage, you'll see much different SoT times
Thanks, that should be 15% used by Screen(should read 50% in stats), and about 15% system, google and idle in those 15hr( altogether 50% in stats).
Well, thats about 6.5hr SOT by batterytests....
Which is not bad at all.
About Same as my Z1c....
Im satisfied with that, although batteryendurance will not be an improvement over my z1c, everything else will....
Thanks alot again, I ll order it....
its about 400€+ VAT now, which is a good price for that device.
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Thanks, that should be 15% used by Screen(should read 50% in stats), and about 15% system, google and idle in those 15hr( altogether 50% in stats).
Well, thats about 6.5hr SOT by batterytests....
Which is not bad at all.
About Same as my Z1c....
Im satisfied with that, although batteryendurance will not be an improvement over my z1c, everything else will....
Thanks alot again, I ll order it....
its about 400€+ VAT now, which is a good price for that device.
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Just a surplus note:
My measurments of Z1c being about the same are with background data on.
With background data off I get 70% used by screen on half brightness.
And Much less % used in idle and android system (15%).
Which translates to about 12% battery for 1hr SoT....(surfing).
Gets easily about 8 hr SoT overall.
So X Performance should be about the same also with background data off.
Last barely 12hours to me, not much music and gaming
Just as I measjred, getting 6-7 hr SoT with my usage pattern. Its good.
Wonderful device btw. ?
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Just as I measjred, getting 6-7 hr SoT with my usage pattern. Its good.
Wonderful device btw.
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http://m.imgur.com/gallery/YAI8Lkx
I have read awesome stuff about this device's battery life and SOT, but I barely get 3.5 to 4 hours of SOT. Does anyone have a possible solution? This is ironic considering my previous crappy lenovo phone would give me 6-7 hours of SOT. Any battery saving kernel or ROM would also be appreciated, as I have unlocked bootloader and am running stock oos (latest open beta) rooted with magisk. Please advice, as if this is a hardware problem then I will return it ASAP.
Unfortunately, this thread has been made many times. No matter how specific your case is you have to analyze your usage.
But, if you need you can make yourself a quick checklist.
Whats apps are installed?
What do you do with your phone?
How many things do you sync?
How often do you game?
Do you have social media apps installed? Instagram, facebook, snapchat etc
What browser do you use?
And where did you read 7 hours SoT?
The reason being for people posting that they get 7-8 hours SoT is because those people use their phone all the time. If you look at their screenshots their idle time is non existent. With my phone that i've done a custom debloating and removed system apps that are worthless battery hogs, I get about 5 hours SoT. I leave my phone idle a lot. Idle still drains battery. If you use your phone on and off through the day, 5 hours SoT is really good. Thats what you should expect. If you get 3-4 hours SoT with normal usage patterns then you have an issue. Id say for every hour of idle time expect to lose perhaps 5 minutes of SoT. Your phone is technically a computer, its doing things constantly so it is never truly idle.
Go OOS 3.5.4. Greenify all apps Plus Play services, have xposed and install amplify to control wakelocks. Use L Speed, Keep data/wifi on only when using.
Why are you guys so obsessed with SoT? I usually get 4-5 hours with one day and half usage and at least 2 hours of Bluetooth + Spotify. As previously stated, the battery life varies on usage. Just take a look on possible wake locks if battery stats are weird. Stop focus on trying to beat the SoT world record and actually start to enjoy your phone as the beast it is
Just use Betterbatterystats and u will find the culprit.
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3.5 hours is below average so there is some app which is draining your battery but around 4.5 hours / 5.5 hours sot is normal and average battery life, if you see those people which post pics with over 8 hours of sot they are lying and are faking the results, trust me so dont bother with it..
Install betterybatterystats and see which app is draining ur battery and unistall it or use greenify on it
I am software version shown in ss
I just bought the phone and only getting sot 30 mins for 10% of battery consumption i got like 4 and half hour of sot for 73% battery consumption i thought x2 pro have around 8 hr sot help me it's frustrating
Well that calculates to more than 6h SOT, which isn't that unrealistic if you used 4g and max screen brightness all the time, but there might be something draining the battery. Check the usage details. I see you use something connected to bluetooth so that might be causing the issue.
Bro i was using the brightness at 27% and nothing was connected to the Bluetooth
I installed betterbatterystats (bbs) xda edition and gsam battery app with adb rights. So you can see the deep sleep with bbs and the times of dot/phone time/ect and which app use how many ampere.
In this charging time I get 4,5 hours dot with 40 hours phone is on. I have now 34%.
Debloating, netguard firewall, no energy saving, always 90 hz.
Also i am having fps dropping issue during online gaming like pubgm or codm
What should i do to get normal 60 fps as this phone has 855+ so i can get 60 fps normally
I'm having even worse SOT and I have the same realme ui version.
I'm not as much hardcore user as a lot of you and looking at 4k mah battery I thought that I will be getting at least 7h SOT.
I'm not playing any games, right now most of the time phone is connected to wifi. What should I do? Debloat my phone? Is it somehow dangerous for my software? Can i ever go back to normal version?
location services destroyes battery on this device
i disable it for one day just to see the difference and it went from 4 hours SOT to 6 hours plus
always talking full brightness wifi some 4g 90hz
and from 100% to 1%
You have like almost 30 hours of standby, and if you use always on display, then that's at least 30% on that. If you consider this then it doesn't look that bad. You do the math. The other guy's stats concern me more.
You will need to make some adjustments, battery can be excellent but you have to be realistic,
Check out App quick freeze and freeze the apps you don't use.
Dark mode,
AOD off,Screen light effects off,
You just got the phone,tinker with it a while to see,
Also battery will drain a lot when your setting up the first day