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I bought a case off of ebay and while its pleasant (stylish) and protects my nook well, it adds at least 2x to the width of the device.
I'd really like a super thin case that protects the screen from bumps and possible breakage. Also, would provide some kind of stand capability.
Would be a bonus to cover the case from scratches as well.
The new iPad cover comes to mind - has anyone seen anything like this for the nook?
Anyone know any manufacturers overseas who might develop something like this?
by depth, do you mean thickness of the nook (screen to back = thickness, width is the short dimension when looking at the device)
anything with leather, fabric, silicon, and probably plastic is going to double the thickness of the nook - since they typically wrap 2 layers of the material over a rigid plate
the nook is listed as 0.48" (15/32") thick. With the silicon case i got on amazon, its 5/8" thick; but there is no screen protector. i got a 10" netbook neoprene sleeve, for putting it into a bag. though, i want to get something similar to a ratpadz mousepad (rigid pvc plastic sheet) for direct screen protection within the bag.
if you are up for a diy, you could make something out of fiberglass; that you could make it 1/16" thick for the front/back, to add only a 1/8" total. you could integrate it with a swing-out leg from the back. making it have 2 (for both directions) would require some serious design!
Hey fellas,
Got a couple of products I wanted to share today - both from Spigen/SGP. The first is the Valentinus Leather case, which is a high-quality case made of genuine leather, as the name states. It's a folio style, meaning it has a front flap that will keep your screen protected when closed. The inside features a plastic cradle where your Note 2 fits snug. All ports and cutouts are easily accessible, except for the S-Pen slot being a little on the tight side. This case offers incredible protection due to its hybrid construction as well.
I also took a look at the Ultra Crystal screenshield, which looks to protect your screen without affecting clarity or quality. It looks nearly invisible and feels just like the glass display - however it is cut short on the sides which I'm not a huge fan of.
Check out the full review below - let me know your thoughts;
I see many arent liking the screen protector being short...however, this is exactly what im looking for. I think paired with most cases that protect the side of the bezel, that particular cut is perfect
erick161 said:
I see many arent liking the screen protector being short...however, this is exactly what im looking for. I think paired with most cases that protect the side of the bezel, that particular cut is perfect
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I don't hate it, but I wanted to point it out because I know a lot of people are paranoid about that. However, if I case is designed correctly, it can have a thick bezel and not bubble up the screen protector, like the CandyShell.
I have the black 5x and I am curious to hear peoples thoughts on ADOPTED Protective Case for Nexus 5X? Has anyone ordered the Clear case for the black phone? Does the case feel like it has good grip or is it slippery? Any thoughts or pics would be appreciated!
Thanks
mbanken
I have it. Black phone and black case. It's very rubberlike. Good grip, moreso on the sides, the back is smoother but not slippery. It's very thin but somewhat heavy. I like it.
I have the clear case on an Ice phone. It is very nice, grippy but smooth and doesn't add too much bulk.
I have the black case and I love how it feels. And not much bulk either.
Is the clear case completely clear all around?
I just wish it said Nexus across the back instead of Adopted.
Anyone got the Adopted folio/flip case? I'm about to order a 5X but am stalling while I decide on a case.
For me the case has to cover the screen, so the adopted folio seems like an ideal option, but my concern is if it folds round enough to go in a phone holder in the car. My phone holder in the car has quite an enthusiastic grip and I don't want to squash or bend the screen cover portion. Anyone got any idea?
I'm used to pull tab pouches, but I like the idea of the convenience of the folio case.
Thanks,
Patrick
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Is the clear case completely clear all around?
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Yes.
I bought the frost one and absolutely hated it. Way too thick and made the phone look nasty. Arranged a return with Google. I have yet to find my ideal case - it should be very thin and not detract from the look of the phone at the very least.
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I have the clear case on an Ice phone. It is very nice, grippy but smooth and doesn't add too much bulk.
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Would you be able to add photos of it? I'm curious what it will look like.
I've ordered it for the carbon phone... I'm afraid it's going to look weird.
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I also ordered the frosted adopted for my carbon 5X, I don't like how it looks. Case feels great but it is a little too bulky for my liking, it is fairly thick and this makes the phone even taller than it already is. Plus the frost color brings more attention to the high of the phone.
Went with the Ringke slim and very happy, not a lot of cushioning but much better feeling in my hand.
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I bought the frost one and absolutely hated it. Way too thick and made the phone look nasty. Arranged a return with Google. I have yet to find my ideal case - it should be very thin and not detract from the look of the phone at the very least.
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Check out my review of the Ringke Fusion Case. I'm pretty much the same way when it comes to phone cases. So far I'm pretty happy with mine, with few, very minor gripes.
I and someone else posted more pictures of the Adopted cases here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/adopted-protective-case-t3242186
I have this case and like it pretty well except for one thing: the part that wraps around to the front is too wide. I find it difficult to swipe from the edges successfully without pushing it out slightly with my thumb. Very annoying. I've currently got two other cases on their way and hopefully I'll like one of them better. I've never had this issue with any other case on any other phone, and when I look at the design of my old cases, I see that they all have a beveled edge on the front and they keep it as thin as possible, unlike the Adopted case.
Totally like mine. Grippy. Got mine for $10 for ordering 5X early. Not sure if I'd pay full price ($20) though.
Got my frost case for my carbon 5X this morning, I was hoping it'd be more see through than it is but its still not bad fits ok (a bit low on the fingerprint hole). Will keep it but wish id ordered the material backed black instead.
The Adopted TPU case is by far the best TPU case I've ever had. I'm formerly a big supporter of anything from Diztronic but they were out of stock when I needed a case (I think there was a quality problem and they got pulled from Amazon). Despite the obnoxious pricetag I bought the plain black Adopted TPU case from the google store. The Diztronic cases always provided great protection against the casual drop without a lot of added bulk. The Adopted case gives me all that along with an uncanny resistance to oil build-up. I wouldn't call myself an oily person (I have kids so I wash my hand a lot) but I always seemed to be cleaning fingerprints off the matte finish of the Diztronic case (typically w/ alcohol). The Adopted on the other hand must use a slightly different formulation of PU to give it its resistance to oil-build up. It's softer than the diztronic, but not soft in a way that I think it would compromise its protective qualities. It's smooth on the back with a texturized perimeter to enhance its grippiness where it needs it most. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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The Adopted TPU case is by far the best TPU case I've ever had. I'm formerly a big supporter of anything from Diztronic but they were out of stock when I needed a case (I think there was a quality problem and they got pulled from Amazon). Despite the obnoxious pricetag I bought the plain black Adopted TPU case from the google store. The Diztronic cases always provided great protection against the casual drop without a lot of added bulk. The Adopted case gives me all that along with an uncanny resistance to oil build-up. I wouldn't call myself an oily person (I have kids so I wash my hand a lot) but I always seemed to be cleaning fingerprints off the matte finish of the Diztronic case (typically w/ alcohol). The Adopted on the other hand must use a slightly different formulation of PU to give it its resistance to oil-build up. It's softer than the diztronic, but not soft in a way that I think it would compromise its protective qualities. It's smooth on the back with a texturized perimeter to enhance its grippiness where it needs it most. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Do you find it difficult to swipe from the edges because of the wide front edge? I do!
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waldox said:
I have this case and like it pretty well except for one thing: the part that wraps around to the front is too wide. I find it difficult to swipe from the edges successfully without pushing it out slightly with my thumb. Very annoying. I've currently got two other cases on their way and hopefully I'll like one of them better. I've never had this issue with any other case on any other phone, and when I look at the design of my old cases, I see that they all have a beveled edge on the front and they keep it as thin as possible, unlike the Adopted case.
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UPDATE: I just received my two new cases.
1. Nexus 5X Case, Diztronic Full Matte Slim-Fit Flexible TPU Case (Revision 2)
The Diztronic has the same exact problem as the Adopted with it's wide edges. I can't swipe from the edges consistantly.
And 2: Nexus 5X Case, Ringke SLIM **Essential Ultra Thin**[FREE Screen Protector][SF Black] Perfect Fit & Ultra Slim Scratch-Resistant Protective Hard Case
The Ringke has very small edges and does not inhibit swiping at all, but it's rigid plastic and leaves me wondering if it really offers any protection.
Any thoughts on that anyone?
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Do you find it difficult to swipe from the edges because of the wide front edge? I do!
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UPDATE: I just received my two new cases.
1. Nexus 5X Case, Diztronic Full Matte Slim-Fit Flexible TPU Case (Revision 2)
The Diztronic has the same exact problem as the Adopted with it's wide edges. I can't swipe from the edges consistantly.
And 2: Nexus 5X Case, Ringke SLIM **Essential Ultra Thin**[FREE Screen Protector][SF Black] Perfect Fit & Ultra Slim Scratch-Resistant Protective Hard Case
The Ringke has very small edges and does not inhibit swiping at all, but it's rigid plastic and leaves me wondering if it really offers any protection.
Any thoughts on that anyone?
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My wife had a Ringke on her S6. It's super thin but she dropped it and the screen shattered. No telling if a TPU case would have fared better but I always thought those hard shell cases were better for scratch protection than impact.
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No matter how hard I look for covers, I just can't find any cover to adequately protect both the phone and it's screen sides.
The cases I found so far seems to either adequately protect the phone (Samsung's Protective Stand Cover is the best I found so far but won't adequately protect the sides, what if the surface is not flat?) or questionably adequately protect the screen (wallet type covers like Spigen Wallet S, Samsung official LED Cover and more).
Is there any case that would adequately protect both the phone and its sides?
If not, what would protect it the best?
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think I can rely on screen protectors, they've failed me in the past.
Thanks!
I am doing a search for cases with raised edges. The only decent one I have found so far is Encased Rebel. Don't listen to excuses like "raised edges would decrease edge function". Ask for proof that case edges are indeed raised. The Rebel has edges raised like half a milimeter above the screen. Not much but it is the most I found so far. With a glass screen protector (Whitestone) it is not raised anymore but almost level with the "screen". All the rest I tried leave edges exposed.
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I am doing a search for cases with raised edges. The only decent one I have found so far is Encased Rebel. Don't listen to excuses like "raised edges would decrease edge function". Ask for proof that case edges are indeed raised. The Rebel has edges raised like half a milimeter above the screen. Not much but it is the most I found so far. With a glass screen protector (Whitestone) it is not raised anymore but almost level with the "screen". All the rest I tried leave edges exposed.
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This is the first case I saw with raised lips on all edges, It doesn't really look good, is there any other option?
Do you think that wallet cases may do the job?
EDIT: btw, the buttons of the Encased Rebel case aren't good at all.
I haven't found another option yet. Waiting for another case, then I will give up and let the perfect one find me. To me it looks good enough and I don't mind the buttons too much.
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Hi
No matter how hard I look for covers, I just can't find any cover to adequately protect both the phone and it's screen sides.
The cases I found so far seems to either adequately protect the phone (Samsung's Protective Stand Cover is the best I found so far but won't adequately protect the sides, what if the surface is not flat?) or questionably adequately protect the screen (wallet type covers like Spigen Wallet S, Samsung official LED Cover and more).
Is there any case that would adequately protect both the phone and its sides?
If not, what would protect it the best?
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think I can rely on screen protectors, they've failed me in the past.
Thanks!
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This: https://www.spigen.com/collections/galaxy-note-8/products/galaxy-note-8-case-rugged-crystal
i just want to stay in this thread. i would happily give up edge functions to have a lip that protects the screen along the sides. i just wish there was an option that was also considered "slim" not a fan of bulky cases, let alone bulky cases on a phone this large.
I did you guys a favor and ordered every note 8 case I could find that: *did* look like it might protect the edges and *did not* make me cover the glass or various ports.
I tried:
Spigen Tough Armor
Encased Rebel
TILL Knight Armor
WallSkiN Turtle
Zizo Static
Zizo Bolt
- The Encased Rebel is the only one that truly comes up above the edges at all.
- I had read that some of these tougher cases can break the phone just putting them on, so I was SUPER careful applying each of them... and I could see that if one were not careful, some of them would put a LOT of pressure on the phone during installation. Because of the way the hard shell part of this case comes in two pieces, it did not scare me putting the thing on - yet the hard part does stay well attached to the rubbery bit once you have it on right the first time.
- I don't have a problem with the buttons on mine, but I am careful to make sure the case's button bits are properly seated over the actual phone buttons. If you just slap that baby on, you may have a problem.
- The case isn't bulky
- Cordless charging works fine with this case
Last week I dropped my newly "encased" phone hard while running and while the corner of the hardcase broke, the phone was fine... I called that a win for now and just ordered another one.
AS for how it looks - I love purple EXCEPT for this particular color of purple. I tried to order the navy one but it is sold out. I can imagine that either the navy or black would look pretty good, but my husband has the same phone in a black case so ... I'm sticking with the somewhat lame purple for now - in order to keep peace in our little cellular community.
I figure in a few months I'll do another search to see if a different manufacturer has served this obvious need.
Thank you to @notefreak for your recommendation.
Got the N8 last week. I'm still looking for a good case that would give decent protection - not a fan of the tank cases. From the reads so far - the Patchworks have done a good job wrt to the N8.
Get Rhino shield. I have dropped a couple of times and it really protects my phone from all sides.
Search for venoro rugged note 8 case on amazon. This case definitely protects the sides of the note 8 but it makes it bigger. It doesn't go above the screen but it is quite a bit wider at the sides. It is a bit slippery on the back also. When you get it, it seems pretty cheap and seems like it would not go together correctly. When you snap it together with the phone in it is when it feels sturdier. Cheap.
Just take care of your phone and don't user it like a hook for climbing. I recommend the one provided when you buy the phone.
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Get Rhino shield. I have dropped a couple of times and it really protects my phone from all sides.
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Having to. Dropped it one time, device is fine. What i don't like is how the buttons feel and work. Could be better.
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Ghostek ultrafit 2. I have had Ghostek for my Note 7, S7 Edge and now my Note 8. They are the only case I could find that actually has the sides that come up higher than the display. Buttons and everything works great.
https://www.amazon.com/Ghostek-Covert-Samsung-Galaxy-Military/dp/B0753N93M1/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522688607&sr=8-4&keywords=ghostek+note+8
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Hey all,
I'm getting a Note 9 soon here. I'm looking for recommendations on screen protectors and whether I should get a case for it. Ideally if I did get a case I'd want something as thin and unobtrusive as possible. I'm generally pretty good with phone and haven't cracked a screen on one yet, but I've also tried to be safe with them. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Hi Do you live in a country where you can make purchases from Amazon? I am not avoiding the question its just that there is a plethora of cases ranging from Samsung's own, that I use, to others from very well known manufacturers. With regard to a screen saver since Samsung went curved screen I have not been able to find a decent screen protector. I just don't bother.
Ryland Johnson said:
Hi Do you live in a country where you can make purchases from Amazon? I am not avoiding the question its just that there is a plethora of cases ranging from Samsung's own, that I use, to others from very well known manufacturers. With regard to a screen saver since Samsung went curved screen I have not been able to find a decent screen protector. I just don't bother.
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Yeah, I'm in the US, so Amazon is the likely source.
I purchased the Amovo case:
https://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Note-...898636&s=gateway&sprefix=amovo,aps,467&sr=8-3
Mainly because the brown one matches my Metallic Copper Note 9 perfectly. It fits the phone really well and all the holes on the bottom line up exactly as they should. Also has decent coverage around the corners.
I haven't used the wallet very much, but the magnet is very strong and holds the phone solidly in place. The magnet is in the wallet and the phone case has 2 metal strips running down each side. Should work in magnetic car holders. No issues with wireless charging.
I like the iCarez screen protectors:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMW9Q2B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lots of holes along the top, but they all lineup really nice. Gives good coverage on the screen and doesn't interfere with the case I'm using. Also, it covers the rounded edges perfectly (some don't and allow dust to get under the protector).
Hope this helps.
I would highly recommend that your purchase the case for your device first, before purchasing a screen protector. So that they will both be compatible with each other.
I've the UAG case from here
Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Cases by UAG- Rugged, Slim, & Lightweight – URBAN ARMOR GEAR
https://urbanarmorgear.com/products/plasma-series-galaxy-note-9-case
Been using it since the 1st week I got my note and it's been great! Also, dont know about screen protector as I dont have one. I've 1 designated pocket only for my phone and nothing else. My note 9 has ZERO surface scratches on the screen.
Anyone use the whitestone dome with a note 9? The thing looks impressive, but I'm a little worried about the cost and the "curing" process. Does it damage the screen if it needs to be removed/replaced later?
The Whitestone Dome TGSP has served both the wife and I very well. Since complain about "spidering" of the Loca glue. That has only showed up, after a drop for us.
There is a similar item, that is a bit cheaper on Amazon, that I've read good things about, that I may try next, if the need arises.
Roopose Galaxy Note 9 Screen Protector Tempered Glass,3D
I have seven cases for my Note 9.
UAG Monarch - I don't like the way it feels. It's nothing like the cases UAG originally made.
Spigen clear TPU - I forget the actual name, but it's the one that's flexible. I don't like it. TPU is not my thing any longer.
Spigen Tough Armor - (2) It is grippy and feels good in the hand, seems like it would provide decent drop protection, I just don't like the buttons. They are flush with the side of the case.
Rhinoshield Solid Suit - I use it for weekend or light duty day carry. It's a bit slippery, but is low profile and slides in and out of pocket easily. The volume bottoms are a bit difficult to operate.
Samsung Silicone Cover - It's very grippy, but because of this collects lint and hangs onto it. I would use this for light duty day carry if it weren't for lint and debris sticking to it. It's called "ocean blue" but does not match the ocean blue Note 9. It's more of a grey.
Samsung Rugged Protective Cover - I like this case. It's very grippy, without being tacky and seems like it would provide good drop protection. Some folks thin it's too heavy. It is a bit heavier than other cases, but if I'm not doing a side by side comparison I get used to it. I actually measured this and the Samsung Silicone Cover on the Note 9 on a kitchen scale and the difference was, with Samsung Silicone 8.75 oz
and with Samsung Rugged Protective Cover 9.55 Oz. I use this case for work day carry.
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WIRELESS CHARGING
We have 2 wireless chargers, CHOETECH Wireless Charger, Qi Certified Wireless Charging Pad & AUKEY Wireless Charger Qi Certified, Fast Wireless Charging Pad with 10W, 7.5W and 5W Output Levels, both were tested with the following cases. All achieved fast charging with screen off only. What an odd limitation to purposely build in. I was testing in order to see if a wireless charging nav dock is an option, but with no fast charge with screen on, the idea is pointless.
UAG Monarch
Spigen Tough Armor
Spigen clear TPU (I forget the name, it's the one that's flexible)
Rhinoshield Solid Suit
Samsung Silicone Cover
Samsung Rugged Protective Cover
I have not measured each one for thickness but I did measure the Samsung Rugged Protective Cover, which I believe to be the thickest of this bunch. The thickness of the back is approximately 3.6mm.
I've read some Amazon sellers state that their wireless chargers will not work on cases thicker than 4mm.
ETA, since the sun has finally appeared, here in the Pacific Northwest, I have noticed several small scratches on the Whitestone Dome Glass. It's been on my Note 9 for nine months. I don't think I ever noticed as many of any scratches on TGSPs I've used on previous phones.
Spigen Neo Hybrid and Whitestone Dome have been great for me!
stock plastic flip case, the cover can show LED time.
I would probably go for a force case and force glass since they are lifetime guaranteed and not too bulky.
Or a customized toast made one if I come across a nice idea.
pizza_pablo said:
The Whitestone Dome TGSP has served both the wife and I very well. Since complain about "spidering" of the Loca glue. That has only showed up, after a drop for us.
There is a similar item, that is a bit cheaper on Amazon, that I've read good things about, that I may try next, if the need arises.
Roopose Galaxy Note 9 Screen Protector Tempered Glass,3D
I have seven cases for my Note 9.
UAG Monarch - I don't like the way it feels. It's nothing like the cases UAG originally made.
Spigen clear TPU - I forget the actual name, but it's the one that's flexible. I don't like it. TPU is not my thing any longer.
Spigen Tough Armor - (2) It is grippy and feels good in the hand, seems like it would provide decent drop protection, I just don't like the buttons. They are flush with the side of the case.
Rhinoshield Solid Suit - I use it for weekend or light duty day carry. It's a bit slippery, but is low profile and slides in and out of pocket easily. The volume bottoms are a bit difficult to operate.
Samsung Silicone Cover - It's very grippy, but because of this collects lint and hangs onto it. I would use this for light duty day carry if it weren't for lint and debris sticking to it. It's called "ocean blue" but does not match the ocean blue Note 9. It's more of a grey.
Samsung Rugged Protective Cover - I like this case. It's very grippy, without being tacky and seems like it would provide good drop protection. Some folks thin it's too heavy. It is a bit heavier than other cases, but if I'm not doing a side by side comparison I get used to it. I actually measured this and the Samsung Silicone Cover on the Note 9 on a kitchen scale and the difference was, with Samsung Silicone 8.75 oz
and with Samsung Rugged Protective Cover 9.55 Oz. I use this case for work day carry.
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WIRELESS CHARGING
We have 2 wireless chargers, CHOETECH Wireless Charger, Qi Certified Wireless Charging Pad & AUKEY Wireless Charger Qi Certified, Fast Wireless Charging Pad with 10W, 7.5W and 5W Output Levels, both were tested with the following cases. All achieved fast charging with screen off only. What an odd limitation to purposely build in. I was testing in order to see if a wireless charging nav dock is an option, but with no fast charge with screen on, the idea is pointless.
UAG Monarch
Spigen Tough Armor
Spigen clear TPU (I forget the name, it's the one that's flexible)
Rhinoshield Solid Suit
Samsung Silicone Cover
Samsung Rugged Protective Cover
I have not measured each one for thickness but I did measure the Samsung Rugged Protective Cover, which I believe to be the thickest of this bunch. The thickness of the back is approximately 3.6mm.
I've read some Amazon sellers state that their wireless chargers will not work on cases thicker than 4mm.
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I use the Samsung Rugged Protective Case, and it's so solid that it turns the Note9 into a weapon!
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I would probably go for a force case and force glass since they are lifetime guaranteed and not too bulky.
Or a customized toast made one if I come across a nice idea.
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Do you have links for force case and force glass?
What is customized toast?
Is that like Cylon toast?
I don't use a screen protector, don't think I really need one. Case, I have a ZeroLemon 10,000. Here are the downsides of the case, though:
No battery calibration - Once your phone battery runs low, you use the case as an external charger. I think this is all battery cases, though since you can't remove the battery and replace it with a larger one. I can go about 3 days without plugging my phone into the wall, though.
No DEX support - Remove the case for this
File Transfer is finicky - Remove the case for this
I haven't tried, but I heard it doesn't support NFC
No Fast Charging support
It's Heavy and Bulky!
The only reason I use it is because of the battery life, and I keep my phone in a bag, anyways. This case will more likely NOT fit in your pants pocket.
Oh, and also, I have large hands. It actually feels great to hold in comparison to just the phone. So, if you have large hands, that'd be another plus, as well.
im using the seidio surface case with holster and the whitestone dome tempered class screen protector.
not cheap but the results are nice.
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Do you have links for force case and force glass?
What is customized toast?
Is that like Cylon toast?
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Sure : https://force-mobility.fr/en
Yeah it's a bit like that
See it yourself : https://www.toastmade.com/
(sorry for the delay)
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Sure : https://force-mobility.fr/en
Yeah it's a bit like that
See it yourself : https://www.toastmade.com/
(sorry for the delay)
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why are all the picture on the case site low res and renders? its weird....how can one want to buy this based on that?
company has a strange way of presenting its product.