With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
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With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
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Yeah, there is a thread here on that. Pretty sure it involves copying downloaded offline phone off phone to watch
Holy Shaving Cream!! This works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549644
I now have a complete sms solution on the gear! I can easily receive texts and reply via voice commands without bluetooth tethering!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559197
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559197
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I'm also working on a round inflatable tube that a carriage can be placed upon to better move people about!
I really did search before posting...lol..
OK, I'll go one better....When added to the Google Now Launcher, we can now have totally hands free phone use. Simply getsure to look at your watch and say "OK Google....Call MOM" ...and your watch will call your mother! :laugh:
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OK, I'll go one better....When added to the Google Now Launcher, we can now have totally hands free phone use. Simply getsure to look at your watch and say "OK Google....Call MOM" ...and your watch will call your mother! :laugh:
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Curious what's your battery life like with that setup
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Curious what's your battery life like with that setup
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Just set it up an hour ago... I have a full day at work tomorrow so I'll test it then and post results...
Everyday since I've had the watch I have added some new functionality. I've been amazed at how little battery life has been impacted since I started toggling bluetooth tethering which seems to be the largest drainer of battery on my setup.
I'm on the latest Null ROM. So far I have my gear connected via bluetooth to the original galxy note. I have the wake gesture set to on so that the Gear actually functions as watch. I have bluetooth tethering toggled on/off via a widget. I have Tablet Talk setup so that I can send and receive texts. I have offline voice recognition setup so that I can use voice typing even when not connected to the internet ( so that I can actually reply to texts without having to use the tiny keyboard ).
With this setup, I still have about 50% battery life after an 18 hour day. I've now added the Google Now Launcher in order to use the "OK GOOGLE" voice commands..We'll see tomorrow how much of an effect this has on battery. :laugh:
@crultzulee I'm glad to see you got the gear up and running on the og note!
How did you guys get Voice Search installed into your Gear in the first place?
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How did you guys get Voice Search installed into your Gear in the first place?
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First, make a distinction between S-voice and Google Now/Search Voice recognition. S-voice is a Samsung proprietary solution that requires a touchwiz framework. I believe that this requires S-voice (and thus touchwiz) to be enabled on both devices (phone and Gear).
What I have running is the Google Now/Search voice regonition. The option for Google Now is provided in the Aroma installer for Null Rom. That gets you basic functionality.
I have chosen to sideload the most recent apk for Google Search and the Google Now Launcher for greater functionality. You should also download the offline language pack as per the link provided above. This allows you to use voice search and voice dictation in any app that uses the google keyboard (like Tablet Talk).
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@crultzulee I'm glad to see you got the gear up and running on the og note!
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With the information provided here, I have turned this impulse buy "toy" into something that is becoming more and more integrated into my daily life.
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First, make a distinction between S-voice and Google Now/Search Voice recognition. S-voice is a Samsung proprietary solution that requires a touchwiz framework. I believe that this requires S-voice (and thus touchwiz) to be enabled on both devices (phone and Gear).
What I have running is the Google Now/Search voice regonition. The option for Google Now is provided in the Aroma installer for Null Rom. That gets you basic functionality.
I have chosen to sideload the most recent apk for Google Search and the Google Now Launcher for greater functionality. You should also download the offline language pack as per the link provided above. This allows you to use voice search and voice dictation in any app that uses the google keyboard (like Tablet Talk).
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Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Google now and Google Dictation are 2 different things.
You can use google dictation if you get the language offline.
Eg you can use the voice key on the keyboard offline to work for apps to handle dictation.
The fancier stuff needs Google Now to be connected to the internet. If you want to use "Ok Google, call mom" that requires Google Now to connect to the net for the contextual recognition.
I have the older setup so I have to press a button for google Now to work but it works to take notes, create reminders and phone calling.
You can use Wondershare to side load the Google Now launcher and the new Voice search and anything else you want.
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Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Not sure about the en-US folder that is linked to in Brendo link, but if you follow the thread in my link, I was able to get that version working after setting the permissions wit es-file explorer..
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Google now and Google Dictation are 2 different things.
You can use google dictation if you get the language offline.
Eg you can use the voice key on the keyboard offline to work for apps to handle dictation.
The fancier stuff needs Google Now to be connected to the internet. If you want to use "Ok Google, call mom" that requires Google Now to connect to the net for the contextual recognition.
I have the older setup so I have to press a button for google Now to work but it works to take notes, create reminders and phone calling.
You can use Wondershare to side load the Google Now launcher and the new Voice search and anything else you want.
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Most of the Google Now functions require internet connection. One notable exception is the one you mentioned. With the offline voice recognition enabled, you can actually say " OK Google...call mom" and the gear will call your mother through your phone WITHOUT bluetooth tehering to the internet enabled...We can't yet get google now to send texts because we are relyin on a third party app (tablet talk) to do this.
Ok, I'm beginning to half understand this. Pardon me because I have a bad fault of overthinking things.
The bit about using the voice button on the keyboard has me stumped. I don't have this as I use Flesky as I hear many others use on the gear or am I missing a setting within it somewhere?
And I must have misunderstood one of @crutzulee 's posts somewhere, but I swore he said he can simply use dictation - as in voice talk to Google Now Search OFFLINE (non-tethered) within it's app and say "Call Mom", ect...
OK, just as there needs to be a distinction between S-voice and Google Voice recognition there needs to be a distinction between bluetooth connection and bluetooth internet tethering. The former just means that the Gear is connected to the phone and can have access to its basic telephone functions. The latter refers to sharing your phones full blown internet connection so that apps on the gear can use the internet as they would on any android device.
Google search is an app/widget that allows one to search the internet and ALSO has some local functionality built in. It's widget has a microphone option that allows the Gear to "listen" to your query. It can then send the captured voice to googles servers over the internet for recognition and processing of your request. If you have the language pack downloaded locally, then it can do the recognition part on the device without uploading to google's servers. If your request is something that the device can do locally , it will. If it can't do that function locally, you will get a message saying that it cannot reach google's servers or something to that effect.
In the instance where you say "OK Google...Call mom" , google search will process your input locally (provided you have the offline language pack installed) . As this function does not require an internet connection and can be processed locally (provided you have the gear connected via bluetooth), the gear will open it's phone app and place your call (provided that you have a contact called "mom" with an associated phone number).
I should clarify, that if you only install the google search app/widget with the offline language pack, you will have to manually press on the microphone on the widget to get it to listen to you.
The advantage of having the Google Now Launcher, is that the mic is always listening for the words "OK Google" when you are on any of the launcher's home page. Thus you can place a phone call with a simple flick of your wrist, and utterance of the "OK Google...call Mom" command. All this WITHOUT be tethered to the internet.
I am running my Gear this way today to test for battery drain. I have sent and received a few phone calls and have noticed only a slight increase in battery drain over my use yesterday which was setup in a similiar way with the exception of the Google Now Launcher installed and always listening..
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With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
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I just recieved my gear and installed the newest null rom and would love to set it up like you have sounds pretty cool!
Hi everybody
Until a couple of days ago, I was able to use voice commands in Android Auto without the need for Google Assistant. Now it seems that Google has made some changes that force me to use assistant if I want to use voice commands.
Is there a way I can work around this? There's no way I am giving Google permission to use my web and app activity or my location history. It's not necessary for voice to work since it worked perfectly without these permissions in the past.
Any ideas? Is reverting back to an older version of AA an option?
I have this same issue. At one point I got around it by changing my country of origin to a country where they haven't yet implemented android assistant (giving the voice an Australian like accent), but i eventually gave up and went back to USA without assistant. I am also curious if there is any way around it
Same here, Android Auto was working fine before Google Assistant was introduced, with plain voice search, and it was super useful to just say OK Google, Play something on Spotify, or OK Google, Go to address this and that. Now the only thing we get back from Google is "When it's safe, you'll first need to tap on the notification". No way I'm turning on Web, Location, Device and Voice History.
Has anybody found a solution to this? Google Assistant requires full access to just about everything Google in order to operate.
I don't want to give Google my entire search access just to use Android Auto.
There was a work-around where you could set your language to US Virgin Islands or something (Where google assistant wasn't live yet), but in the end I decided to not use the microphone in Android Auto anymore
Hi guys!
I'm about to switch from iOS to Android and had a few hochkippst and roadblocks. Besides losing iMessage (I will try airdroid) I was also not able to get my smartphone running as the second screen in Android Auto as it was connected to my cars headunit.
I'm used to this because it's a no brainer with CarPlay. Google Maps and Waze are showing the direction arrows on the smartphone screen while the headunit shows the map.
Don't worry my smartphone is in sight height and I use this only for quick orientations.
When I want to start Google Maps while AA is running I get the message that open GMaps is not possible.
Is there a way to get my directions anyhow?
Thanks for your help!
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Hi guys!
I'm about to switch from iOS to Android and had a few hochkippst and roadblocks. Besides losing iMessage (I will try airdroid) I was also not able to get my smartphone running as the second screen in Android Auto as it was connected to my cars headunit.
I'm used to this because it's a no brainer with CarPlay. Google Maps and Waze are showing the direction arrows on the smartphone screen while the headunit shows the map.
Don't worry my smartphone is in sight height and I use this only for quick orientations.
When I want to start Google Maps while AA is running I get the message that open GMaps is not possible.
Is there a way to get my directions anyhow?
Thanks for your help!
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You can try to use it in the way that on the car system screen you can use Google Maps or Waze but on the smartphone screen you can use some 3rd party app (not supported by AA) for navigation purposes. There are many such tools. Maybe there are some supporting big arrows on the screen as you expected. This 3rd party app will not disturb for AA navigation. I personally use Yanosik on my smartphone while running Google Maps on car system screen.
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Thanks. That's an Idea but not the solution I'm looking for. Makes no sense to enter the destination twice.
Discovered that Android or at Lear's the S10 is showing the directions also on the Lockscreen. I didn't find any setting where I can set that the lockscreen will be steady on when it's connected to the car. Do you guys have an idea how to realize that?
Hello.
I have enabled location sharing on google maps, I sometimes find myself in need of knowing where someone is ... like when I'm going to pick up my wife and she is not waiting for me and keeps walking.
Anyway, after trying a few apps I've come to the conclusion that google maps location sharing is still king for my needs.
Everything is great, I can see the person on my phone on google maps, I can select it and drive towards that location, BUT ONLY ON MY PHONE !
Problem is that I'm never on foot, I always drive, so naturally I want to use google maps from android auto on my car.
Big surprise here ... on google maps from android auto I don't have the position of the person that is sharing the location.
So if my phone is not connected to the car I can open google maps on my phone and see the location. If my phone is connected to the car with android auto - on google maps on my car's tablet I can not see the position.
Ok, I have a rooted phone on my car, permanently connected via usb to the car. Being rooted - I've installed aa mirror.
So I start aamirror, I can see on my car's tablet all the apps that I have on my phone... so I start google maps .... no success ... it gets me to that google maps from android auto - the one that is without the google account and I can not see positions.
Any ideeas how to solve this ?
I will try to clone google maps, perhaps I can manage to get it to open like on the phone.
Any ideea would be appreciated, thanks.
Actually it's working ...
On android auto I have two navigation apps - google maps & waze.
I have accidentally found that if in navigation mode last app used is google maps - than if i launch aa mirror and from there I launch google maps - than it will open google maps android auto version - the one standard that appears if you press the navi button (first one from the left) - this is the one where I am not connected to my google account and I can not see the people that are sharing the location with me.
But on the other hand, if last navi app used is waze - than if I start aa mirror and proceed to launch google maps from aa mirror - than a "phone" version of google maps will open, I can see that I'm logged in with my google account, I can see sharing locations, I can navigate to those who share their locations. Except that it's not completely full screen - on the right part of the screen I have the buttons from android auto. But's it's not bothering me, I consider this ok, I can do what I wanted to be able to do.
Hi,
I just switched from iPhone to Android (S21) to my surprise when I connect my phone to my car and use google maps on android auto, I can not open the google maps app on phone, it is not letting me open it.
While on iPhone google maps can be opened on both screen and while using navigation we get very useful turn directions on phone screen.
Why can't I do this on android ? why Google made better product for apple phone then their own system.
Is there any way to fix this ? even if I want to search an address I have to disconnect the phone from car in order to use the app on phone, this is just ridiculous.
Thanks for your help
i second this. I shouldn't have to find a workaround
I travel every weekend and as a passenger it's nice to be able to look for new spots then send it to android auto
@Netuser i use a workaround and
- use google maps within google chrome (or what ever browser you use).
- For address' i open in chrome.
- lastly, i hit directions and it sends it to the android auto where i can press start or add stop.
I use here maps, maps.me, citymapper, waze as a workaround as well then copy the address into google chrome then press directions.
Pro tip: if you are traveling in europe running waze in the background while running google maps for speed traps is 100% needed. Speed cameras are all over the place in europe not allowing you to go more than 5km over the limit.
Netuser said:
Hi,
I just switched from iPhone to Android (S21) to my surprise when I connect my phone to my car and use google maps on android auto, I can not open the google maps app on phone, it is not letting me open it.
While on iPhone google maps can be opened on both screen and while using navigation we get very useful turn directions on phone screen.
Why can't I do this on android ? why Google made better product for apple phone then their own system.
Is there any way to fix this ? even if I want to search an address I have to disconnect the phone from car in order to use the app on phone, this is just ridiculous.
Thanks for your help
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This is indeed true, any navigation app currently running on Android Auto cannot be opened on the phone. That's not a Google Maps limitation but it's part of Android Auto intended behaviour.
If you have a rooted phone you can try out "Multi Display" mode in AA AIO TWEAKER. With this mode, Google Maps will also be shown on phone with a map of where you're going and indications. If you have a widescreen car, it will also enable a split view mode which is kinda neat
See examples below.