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H2OS & OOS are not merged...

hi.
its revealed in the news that hydrogen OS & Oxygen OS are merging but thats not really true... Why? because right now they have their separate Beta Builds!!
Actually now the OP3 has 4 Official Stock ROMs :
1. Oxygen 3.2.4
2. Oxygen 3.5.1 Community Build
3. Hydrogen v2 (OTA 010)
4. Hydrogen v2.5 Public Beta

I do think the word 'merging' means OnePlus has at least some kind of plan to merge both. It doesn't mean it'll be merging now, but it might just means OnePlus is doing it later, who knows?

F4uzan said:
I do think the word 'merging' means OnePlus has at least some kind of plan to merge both. It doesn't mean it'll be merging now, but it might just means OnePlus is doing it later, who knows?
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i don't think that way...
they can't have just ONE rom, there are always 2, Global & China...
i think that Oxygen remains Oxygen and Hydrogen remains Hydrogen BUT they are closer to each other in many ways this time...
they aren't getting merging, they are just getting closer.

alirezamatrian1 said:
i don't think that way...
they can't have just ONE rom, there are always 2, Global & China...
i think that Oxygen remains Oxygen and Hydrogen remains Hydrogen BUT they are closer to each other in many ways this time...
they aren't getting merging, they are just getting closer.
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Whats the point to make it closer? Lol

ffaka said:
Whats the point to make it closer? Lol
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It's easier to develop if the two roms are very similar as the two teams can work together

they were not merged, their development teams were merged so it means we'll see features of both roms being ported into one another. for eg in the community builds they replaces stock dialler and messenger apps with oneplus's apps. i hope they keep it more closer to the oxygen os rather than hydrogen os in the final build. even if they do start drifting more towards hydrogen os, there are already so many good roms out here.

I think what they mean is that they will share the same code base.
However, there will still be different front ends for h2os and oos.
That way they won't need to maintain two different branches and new features will be available to both platforms at the same time without the need to port between the two branches.

dwang said:
I think what they mean is that they will share the same code base.
However, there will still be different front ends for h2os and oos.
That way they won't need to maintain two different branches and new features will be available to both platforms at the same time without the need to port between the two branches.
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner. I believe this is exactly what they meant.

alirezamatrian1 said:
i don't think that way...
they can't have just ONE rom, there are always 2, Global & China...
i think that Oxygen remains Oxygen and Hydrogen remains Hydrogen BUT they are closer to each other in many ways this time...
they aren't getting merging, they are just getting closer.
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They can be the same like MIUI there is global and Chinese but they are identical and that's what they are planning

Possible CM/AOSP development?

Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?

jim380 said:
Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?
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I agree. I want an AOSP ROM android 7.1.

You'll have to be patient and wait it out as the devices is new and overpriced if you want it now.

Sounds like CM is in the works:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/wrL7SoG0n1w/
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Looks like a typo by AndroidPolice, it's for the Mi MAX (hydrogen), not our phone (lithium).
It's still early, way too early to throw in the towel....
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any updates guys?

Is there no way to contribute (monetarily) to help get AOSP?

no kernel sources released by xiaomi, no aosp. it looks like on my previous mi note pro (chinese only device), which took ages to get sources released.

We could get device tree from similar device and build from there but it's gonna be painful and probably we're looking at a half baked product that wouldn't be usable anyway.
In the meantime, we'll wait for the source to be release.

Should be able to pull the blobs from the phone or the build but without the kernel source I'm not sure how to get started. Has anyone seen the kernel source yet?

Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.

satishp said:
Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.
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Maybe they learn, said this was a concept phone and aren't making many, plenty out there now, and what we're now making a white one, XDA calls the shots, think they don't check this site.

Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.

satishp said:
Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.
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There's no way a device won't get custom ROMs sooner or later it's a developer's dream.

There definitely is a way. If they don't release the kernel source, that's it for anything but modified stock roms.

http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=462506&pid=8662826
thats the only custom rom for the mix thus far and they claim that AOSP will be starting soon

In case ya'll didn't know, someone from EpicROM team on MIUI Official Forum mentioned that AOSP development for Mi MIx will start soon.

Any news?

I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome

Kevinkuensken said:
Any news?
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I recall the developer said that they will release a LOS built once an official miui nought ROM hits the device.

matever said:
I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome
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See my response to the previous post.

Noone interested to maintain AOSiP or Nitrogen?? :-/

I was wondering why dont we have any interested developer to maintain AOSiP or Nitrogen? I used it in my RN3P and found these 2 ROM's to be exceptional. Now I have switched to Mi5 and as far as I've seen we have very few maintainers compared to RN3P....

Maybe you did not saw it, but I maintained Nitrogen for Mi5 till a few weeks ago.
The problem is that Nitrogen has dropped CAF support. Maybe you can take a look at Dirty Unicorns, its a really nice rom and has a lot of the settings Nitrogen also offers.
BTW: AOSiP is in the works afaik.

33bca said:
Maybe you did not saw it, but I maintained Nitrogen for Mi5 till a few weeks ago.
The problem is that Nitrogen has dropped CAF support. Maybe you can take a look at Dirty Unicorns, its a really nice rom and has a lot of the settings Nitrogen also offers.
BTW: AOSiP is in the works afaik.
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Apologies as I didnt see it. Now I screened through the threads and found it and saw you've dropped it after 27Mar build. As far as AOSiP...thats great news. Currently on AOSP Extended and looking forward to AOSiP. That was the last ROM I was using on my RN3P and quite frankly the best CAF ROM I've experienced on that device with a plethora of necessary features (An Ain1 tbh). My wife forcefully snatched it from me after seeing that performance and gave me her Mi5.
Anyways...thanks for taking the time and replying. Eagerly waiting for AOSiP

@33bca I was just curious...do u have any idea about the progress of AOSiP? Not asking for ETA but was very curious to know....

i'm not him but he said on 2nd wave, so i guess 2 weeks since AOSiP release

iTalisman said:
@33bca I was just curious...do u have any idea about the progress of AOSiP? Not asking for ETA but was very curious to know....
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I just saw that someone worked on it, I dont maintain this since my HDD is filled with roms already....

panchovix said:
i'm not him but he said on 2nd wave, so i guess 2 weeks since AOSiP release
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May i contact him?

Why is dev support so bad for this phone?

I have an old mi note 5 pro which I gave to my girlfriend and that phone already has many stable android 10 ROMs, along with havoc and pixel experience, and it didn't even get an official android 10 update.
This phone has official android 10 from xiaomi but there aren't any aosp based ROMs on it. All the major ones have been abandoned and there aren't too many in general anyway. Why is that happening? Is it specifically hard to make ROMs for this phone?

lvnatic said:
I have an old mi note 5 pro which I gave to my girlfriend and that phone already has many stable android 10 ROMs, along with havoc and pixel experience, and it didn't even get an official android 10 update.
This phone has official android 10 from xiaomi but there aren't any aosp based ROMs on it. All the major ones have been abandoned and there aren't too many in general anyway. Why is that happening? Is it specifically hard to make ROMs for this phone?
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what do you mean by dev support so bad?iff you can question dev like this "quote" (Is it specifically hard to make ROMs for this phone)..why dont you try to make one?dont throw stupid question on this forum..to make a custom rom first you need free time..second need a team to develop 1 rom..third you not getting paid for what you did (yes you can put your donation link in the post but not all user will donate to you..dumn kiddo

Basically stick with MIUI if you want a functional phone with updates for like 2 years. Then you can rely on 3rd party developers. But then again software for your device is not guaranteed. Or better should had bought OnePlus 7/t/pro instead. Xiaomi has a very bad record of updating their device. It's called planned obsolescence. It's better if you learn how to make ROMs if you want to keep your device updated. You can't trust and rely on anyone these days.

Cheaper devices which have lost support tend to get better dev support.
I'd imagine more android 10 roms when the official kernel sources for it are released. If it were never to get Android 10, then devs may see it worthwhile to backport kernels.

lvnatic said:
I have an old mi note 5 pro which I gave to my girlfriend and that phone already has many stable android 10 ROMs, along with havoc and pixel experience, and it didn't even get an official android 10 update.
This phone has official android 10 from xiaomi but there aren't any aosp based ROMs on it. All the major ones have been abandoned and there aren't too many in general anyway. Why is that happening? Is it specifically hard to make ROMs for this phone?
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Because you haven't out baked any ROMs.
Sent from my Mi 9T Pro using Tapatalk

Let's not act like the folks at the MI forums and discuss it rationally instead of lashing out at OP.
My guess is that K20 series is rather new series and has lower salse than extremely successful devices like Note 5 pro. So it has smaller dev base and availability of raw materials yet.

Instead of giving cliche answers like "developers have life too", "why don't you make rom yourself".
Why can't we discuss lack of Android 10 roms for our device? OP asked the right question.
As far as I know, we don't have stable device tree for Q. Xiaomi doesn't release device trees. Abhishek(dev of LineageOS 10) has a working device tree but he wants to make it stable and then release the sources. Once he releases that i think then we will get more Q based custom roms.

Yeah It is not worthy changing to custom rom. Better stay on stock atm

Because it's still a rather new phone, atleast the global one. Custom ROMs in general seem to be dying, probably because official ROMs are getting better and better compared to the times when i had my HTC HD2.

I don't know why everyone is so butthurt about this post, I'm legitimately curious why this is happening. I'm not bashing the devs at all, maybe 10 year old children that can't even comprehend a text should stick to their telegram groups.
Thanks to everyone who posted something actually useful, it seems the official device tree hasn't been released it, hopefully xiaomi will take care of this soon.

lvnatic said:
I don't know why everyone is so butthurt about this post, I'm legitimately curious why this is happening. I'm not bashing the devs at all, maybe 10 year old children that can't even comprehend a text should stick to their telegram groups.
Thanks to everyone who posted something actually useful, it seems the official device tree hasn't been released it, hopefully xiaomi will take care of this soon.
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At the moment there is a bit of inactivity whilst many devs are waiting for android 10 sources to be released by Xiaomi. I'm guessing most devs don't want to waste time working on fixing Pie ROMs when they know everyone will abandon them once stable 10 ROMs arrive.
Give it a month or so and you'll see done movement again.

Robbo.5000 said:
At the moment there is a bit of inactivity whilst many devs are waiting for android 10 sources to be released by Xiaomi. I'm guessing most devs don't want to waste time working on fixing Pie ROMs when they know everyone will abandon them once stable 10 ROMs arrive.
Give it a month or so and you'll see done movement again.
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Good point, I haven't considered that. This phone is very popular and I was really curious why there are so few custom ROMs, maybe we will get more goodies on android 10.

lvnatic said:
I don't know why everyone is so butthurt about this post, I'm legitimately curious why this is happening. I'm not bashing the devs at all, maybe 10 year old children that can't even comprehend a text should stick to their telegram groups.
Thanks to everyone who posted something actually useful, it seems the official device tree hasn't been released it, hopefully xiaomi will take care of this soon.
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because you too stupid too make comparerison with your stupid redmi note 5 over 2019 k20 pro/Mi 9T pro device dumb ass..they way you said (dev support so bad) make you look so stupid..thats all..and 1 more thing..you can say dev support so slow..not dev support so bad since they not work for you kiddo..

xNovaLeader said:
because you too stupid too make comparerison with your stupid redmi note 5 over 2019 k20 pro/Mi 9T pro device dumb ass..they way you said (dev support so bad) make you look so stupid..thats all..and 1 more thing..you can say dev support so slow..not dev support so bad since they not work for you kiddo..
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Really don't need this kind of rage, take it easy. I believe op was just asking. Just a curiosity... Despite your concerns about the words he used to start the talk. I believe it is pretty easy to understand he was not demanding anything from the good guys, the devs, or even trying to complaining about it.
Seems that there's no way to have a civilized conversation about it without getting someone any hassle, saying "why don't you develop? Douchebag".... Not first time I saw this. Weird thing indeed...

From the Moderator oka1
This conversation is going nowhere productive.... They rarely do.
Remember, everyone posts their work for free, if you do not like their work, I suggest you make your own ROM and show us your skills .......... Which likely, are non-existent with the exception of running your mouth.
.........As Such ..... THIS THREAD IS CLOSED
~~~ Oka1

[ROM] [Work in Progress] [Mantis] LineageOS 14.1 for Fire TV Stick 4K

Hi community!
There is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM being mainly developed by @Rortiz2 and @diegocr: https://github.com/LOSMantis
Current ROM Status:
- Not Stable
Not Working:
- Sound
- OMX
- Maybe more...
Developers out there that would like to join development are welcome!...
Notice: This is a WIP ROM. It needs to be compile from the source (build steps could be adapted from the Nexus Player https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/fugu/build) if someone wants to try it out. Ready to flash builds would maybe be available when the ROM is more stable. Please do not ask for ETA, it is being developed in the spare time of the developers!

michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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'I believe @diegocr and @Rotiz2 were working on it some and couldn't get the sound to work. Not sure if actively though...

This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...

Sus_i said:
FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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Yes, but full of bloatware, with some blocking mechanisms or black listed apps, no Google Play Store...
We are not allowed to change the home app easily, to use the standard Android settings without Amazon home app, not install already purchased apps on the Google Play Store and so on...

With root you can disable remove the "bloatware", although personally i dont think there is much i dont use. The fireOS TV is fairly smooth and easy to navigate. The android TV version is worse (IMO, I have a NVidea). You can disable the NIMH app, although i have yet to find any app it is blocking. The play store for androidTV is horrible. LauncherX is fairly easy to install. As with tank and sloan, i would expect issues with roms.

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Rortiz2 said:
Can you and other people (that did this aswell) stop creating threads like this?
We're working on mantis yes but this takes its time...
For now all is working except OMX and Audio so it's not worth to release anything.
We will create the ROM thread when it's enough usable.
Just wait...
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Hi Rortiz2,
Why are you so mad about this thread? We did not ask for a working ROM or any release dates and we appreciate all your time and dedication to the project...
As I wrote in the subject, this is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM... Have seen so many threads like this in other forums here on XDA where the ROM only boots but nothing works...
I have created this thread to allow other devs to join the project (if nobody talks about it, than nobody knows that a project already exists and can not help).
But if you would like to do this project alone, just tell me an I will delete this thread...
Best regards,
Michael

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I got really excited when I saw this thread. I cannot wait for stock Android for the Firestick 4K. I will 100% donate to the dev's who get this working!!

Rortiz2 said:
It's ok, leave the thread here. If somebody wants to help there's no problem.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.

AngryManMLS said:
Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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+1 for a test build, I've got a bricked 4k that boots both the hacked bootloader and TWRP, but whatever image I install has no display...
So I would like to try anything else even if stuff is broken on it (just to see if I can get a display).
thx.

michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.

Pretoriano80 said:
It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
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I totally understand and respect that. I did bring up having some kind of developer/user test build done just in case that could help further along getting said bugs fixed by getting catlogs that might help narrow down what is causing the issues. But if the devs feel that doing that would only slow things down (or even not help at all) then I respect that decision.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
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That's the nature of things when it comes to Lineage OS ROMs (and AOSP in general). Sometimes devs are able to get the ROMs to have nearly all the functionality of the device working... and sometimes not. But I generally prefer Lineage myself due to the overall experience being faster since LOS tends to not have all the bloat that stock ROMs sometimes have - especially Amazon devices which feel so bloated down with garbage I will never use.

Pretoriano80 said:
It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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Hi Pretoriano80,
As I already replied to one of the devs, I never asked for a release date or ROM for flashing. The title also is marked as WIP (Work in Progress), that means that the ROM is in development and not ready for use...
I have seen that you already made a great job with the custom kernel. Thanks! Would you also like to help this project as it seems it also can use your kernel? Kernel dev with ROM devs would be the best team!
Thanks again to all devs that work hard for releasing new stuff for the Amazon devices...

How's the progress so far?

Looks like nothing much: https://github.com/LOSMantis/android_vendor_amazon_mantis
Too bad !!

dead project ?

I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)

Ungeskriptet said:
I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
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it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.

robin994 said:
it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
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LineageOS 16 won't ever be able to happen for the Mantis version because it doesn't support treble, the most it could do is LOS 14.1 since it's a legacy device.