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Hi,
I'm fooling around with my z3c trying to get it to an acceptable rooted state. The route I've taken is I've followed the steps in bilboa1's how-to post, up to step 25. After that i figured I could just as well flash one of the existing pre-rooted images instead of doing the dance with two images (as suggested by someone in post #159 of that thread), and this worked for me, partially. I'm using wajk's SLiM ROM at the moment.
EDIT: Reading through this, I realized I should have tried
What I don't understand is why boot loops occur randomly (-or not) when I'm doing this. I've had varying success with different ROMS:
- Wajk's ROM: Success twice, boot loop once
- My own PRFCreated Rom, based on Nordic Stock from this thread: No success at all, boot loop twice
- My recovery (created with TWRP) of the Wajk installation: Success once, boot loop once.
- @evildog1's image ("23.4.A.1.264 - Unbranded - NORDIC (1288-5411) [...]" from the pre-rooted ROMs thread: boot loop once (perhaps I should have tried more)
Every time I encounter a boot loop I go back into recovery (TWRP), wipe dalvik and cache, power off, wait for a while, flash the rom again, wipe again, power off again, etc, and varying combinations thereof. Sooner or later I will get out of the loop. Not with my home-grown ROM though, which is a pity, because I wanted to have a rooted stock ROM to be able to use Xposed. Wajk's ROM works great but there appears to be a lot of conflict with variuos Xposed modules (which I guess is expected), so I haven't been able to come up with a combination that allows me to choose a dark UI for instance.
I should add that when I say boot loop, I mean the scenario where the phone get's stuck on the boot animation and never finishes. It's not really a 'loop', I guess.
However, it should be obvious from all this that I'm just poking around with no clear understanding of what I'm doing. Why do I get different results from what I believe to be the same procedure? It seems likely that I'm not doing the PRFCReate thing right and that my ROM is corrupt. Or, perhaps I'm not doing the right steps to prepare the phone when flashing a different ROM. Or, perhaps my interpretation of bilboa1's method is dumb. Or perhaps I'm committing a lot of different errors that all result in similar boot loops. Is there perhaps a way to diagnose different boot loop causes?
I'd be grateful for any insight into this that you care to share. Thank you.
EDIT: I decided to give evildog's ROM another go. I finally got it to boot and managed to install Xposed, paying closer attention to what I was actually doing. This is the entire sequence:
Factory reset -> flash ROM -> Wipe Dalvik -> Power off/on -> Boot loop -> wipe Dalvik -> Power off/on -> Booted OK -> flash Xposed zip -> Wipe Dalvik -> Boot loop -> Power off/on -> Wipe Dalvik -> Boot loop -> Power off/on -> Wipe Dalvik -> Booted OK
This is my MO, more or less. In the end things work out but I don't know how or why. Still interested in learning about this.
Hello
I'm using 23.4.A.1.264 - Unbranded - NORDIC on my D5803 and i never got any bootloops. If you flashed D5803 ROMs on D5833, then the problem will occur.
My steps
1. Wipe everything except internal and external Sdcard
2. Flash the ROM on TWRP
3. Boot the phone and it took 10 min to boot for the first time
Thank you. Perhaps I'm not waiting long enough before I get impatient and shut the phone off. And, perhaps, cause problems that weren't there from the start. Your ROM works well once I got through my shutting-of-the-phone-too-early process. I'm using wajk's ROM again now, since I discovered it's actually possible to do some theming after all, using LPthemer.
Next time I flash something I'll wait longer. Mystery solved (I hope)...
I've now installed TWRP (of this flavor : twrp-3.0.2-1-oneplus3t.img ), and supersu after updating firmware to 3.5.3 on the 3t I received yesterday. It installs without problem. I've not touched encryption and I'm very wary of using TWRP at the moment, because it always asks me for the encryption password. When I initialized the phone after this setup, the only password/entry entities I entered were a) a 4-digit pin, and b) 3 fingerprints. They work fine.
When I try to boot to TWRP, I always am prompted for a password immediately. I have no idea what the password is, and have tried my known-to-be-correct PIN , no luck. I have tried hitting cancel, and then only if I agree to mount /system as RO can I enter TWRP without it trying and failing to decrypt everything which corrupts storage.
I've read the entire (TWRP) thread a couple of times, but maybe it was too late at night. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what step I'm missing, or if I'm trying to do something that can't be done because of what was just said above (encryption isn't fully supported by TWRP yet?) , or if I just should know the password and let TWRP decrypt it. Finally, is there a way to just decrypt the phone while booted and is that even called for?
I'd like to use TWRP which seems fine in every other respect (well, I don't yet know if I can make a backup & restore, so that isn't fine), but am held up by the password entry at the start of each session. Many thanks for getting it this far and thanks for any help you might give.
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I've now installed TWRP (of this flavor : twrp-3.0.2-1-oneplus3t.img ), and supersu after updating firmware to 3.5.3 on the 3t I received yesterday. It installs without problem. I've not touched encryption and I'm very wary of using TWRP at the moment, because it always asks me for the encryption password. When I initialized the phone after this setup, the only password/entry entities I entered were a) a 4-digit pin, and b) 3 fingerprints. They work fine.
When I try to boot to TWRP, I always am prompted for a password immediately. I have no idea what the password is, and have tried my known-to-be-correct PIN , no luck. I have tried hitting cancel, and then only if I agree to mount /system as RO can I enter TWRP without it trying and failing to decrypt everything which corrupts storage.
I've read the entire (TWRP) thread a couple of times, but maybe it was too late at night. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what step I'm missing, or if I'm trying to do something that can't be done because of what was just said above (encryption isn't fully supported by TWRP yet?) , or if I just should know the password and let TWRP decrypt it. Finally, is there a way to just decrypt the phone while booted and is that even called for?
I'd like to use TWRP which seems fine in every other respect (well, I don't yet know if I can make a backup & restore, so that isn't fine), but am held up by the password entry at the start of each session. Many thanks for getting it this far and thanks for any help you might give.
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I would start over. Get the stock recovery and flash it. Then factory reset the phone. Do not put a pin or a fingerprint at all after you have booted to the phone. Go straight to the bootloader and do the twrp flashing instructions. after you have flashed and i believe if you want to be decrypted you format data than flash supersu again. Boot into system and then back to twrp and see if that worked. I remember doing this on my nexus 6p but not sure if the kernel has to support the decryption. remember when you do a back up of your phone never never never back it up with pin or passwords or fingerprint. You wont be able to restore succesfully from my experince with the nexus 6p. make sure you back everything up before doing this and i am not responsible for any problems occured. and make sure you are on the latest update from oneplus. hope this helped
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I would start over. Get the stock recovery and flash it. Then factory reset the phone. Do not put a pin or a fingerprint at all after you have booted to the phone. Go straight to the bootloader and do the twrp flashing instructions. after you have flashed and i believe if you want to be decrypted you format data than flash supersu again. Boot into system and then back to twrp and see if that worked. I remember doing this on my nexus 6p but not sure if the kernel has to support the decryption. remember when you do a back up of your phone never never never back it up with pin or passwords or fingerprint. You wont be able to restore succesfully from my experince with the nexus 6p. make sure you back everything up before doing this and i am not responsible for any problems occured. and make sure you are on the latest update from oneplus. hope this helped
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That's exactly how I did it the first time, without password, without setting up phone, and when it got to TWRP (the first time), I was presented with the password prompt. When I hit cancel it went by it, but then said it was decrypting (which I didn't want), and corrupted my storage.
When I reinstalled 3.5.3, I did the same thing again, and that time was not corrupted so I was able to install supersu. At this point I've entered some fingerprints and a pin. TWRP says it supports encryption so I'm wondering about where the password comes from.
Thanks for your quick response. I'm still awaiting some reply over in the TWRP forum as well.
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That's exactly how I did it the first time, without password, without setting up phone, and when it got to TWRP (the first time), I was presented with the password prompt. When I hit cancel it went by it, but then said it was decrypting (which I didn't want), and corrupted my storage.
When I reinstalled 3.5.3, I did the same thing again, and that time was not corrupted so I was able to install supersu. At this point I've entered some fingerprints and a pin. TWRP says it supports encryption so I'm wondering about where the password comes from.
Thanks for your quick response. I'm still awaiting some reply over in the TWRP forum as well.
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Are you sure you had 3.5.3 the first time you did it?
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Are you sure you had 3.5.3 the first time you did it?
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Yes, it was the first thing I did. After receiving the 3t, I skipped over all the prompts (to avoid entering accounts, waiting for sw upds and to not enter passwords) and went to software updates and allowed the 3.5.3 update to occur.
Then I did the things described above.
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In the interests of my trying to understand everything I'm reading about 6.x and encryption. I'm getting the drift that phones with 6.x + are encrypted as a matter of course. Is that the case (or how do I tell if it is)? If it is by default encrypted, then is there a default password before you have entered any specific pin or swipe pattern , etc?
Another question: When TWRP asks for a password, what exactly does it want to do? Does it want to decrypt the data for it's own operations (so just a twrp-level decryption) or does it actually want to completely decrypt partitions? If so, why? Is that the only way TWRP can work these days with default encrypted platforms?
Thanks.
hachamacha said:
Yes, it was the first thing I did. After receiving the 3t, I skipped over all the prompts (to avoid entering accounts, waiting for sw upds and to not enter passwords) and went to software updates and allowed the 3.5.3 update to occur.
Then I did the things described above.
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In the interests of my trying to understand everything I'm reading about 6.x and encryption. I'm getting the drift that phones with 6.x + are encrypted as a matter of course. Is that the case (or how do I tell if it is)? If it is by default encrypted, then is there a default password before you have entered any specific pin or swipe pattern , etc?
Another question: When TWRP asks for a password, what exactly does it want to do? Does it want to decrypt the data for it's own operations (so just a twrp-level decryption) or does it actually want to completely decrypt partitions? If so, why? Is that the only way TWRP can work these days with default encrypted platforms?
Thanks.
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Flash stock recovery, install stock 3.5.3 zip, flash TWRP beta 3 and then SR4. I went through same problem and this got me in(would accept my phone password. )
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Flash stock recovery, install stock 3.5.3 zip, flash TWRP beta 3 and then SR4. I went through same problem and this got me in(would accept my phone password. )
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Is that the TWRP beta 3 from the TWRP thread? I thought I saw it mentioned in there. Thanks.
I've done the rest once so will give beta 3 a shot before I resign myself to putting the whole thing back together. Not that big a deal I suppose. I finally realized (after reading quite a bit) that 6.x + comes encrypted and that all versions of TWRP don't handle it right, so I suppose there's no easy way around it. (I'm wondering about this link I happened upon: https://www.androidexplained.com/oneplus-3-fix-twrp-restore-unlock-bug/ )
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Is that the TWRP beta 3 from the TWRP thread? I thought I saw it mentioned in there. Thanks.
I've done the rest once so will give beta 3 a shot before I resign myself to putting the whole thing back together. Not that big a deal I suppose. I finally realized (after reading quite a bit) that 6.x + comes encrypted and that all versions of TWRP don't handle it right, so I suppose there's no easy way around it. (I'm wondering about this link I happened upon: https://www.androidexplained.com/oneplus-3-fix-twrp-restore-unlock-bug/ )
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Yes page 9 or 10 OP gives me a link
The solution for me:
I received this reply in the TWRP thread in Development from the OP:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcadduono
try setting a non-pin password on boot in your OS, like, an actual password, this should convince 3.5.3 to rewrite your crypto key in working format
then see if that new password works on twrp
if it does, you can probably set it back to pin and the pin might start working in twrp
if it doesn't, let me know
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Yes, that completely fixed the entire mess and thanks to everyone else for their suggestions. Funny that I never had noticed the word "password" in the security settings, so I tried pin.
Now I've got an encrypted 3t with working TWRP, makes backups, tried a restore and f2fs, no real changes from stock aside from adding TWRP, picking a password, etc.
This seems to happen when you've got the fingerprint method enabled with PIN or password for that matter.
My experience:
I update from Oxygen 4.1.6 to 4.1.7 with TWRP and something went wrong because the phone stuck in bootload for more then half hour.
I've reboot and it appeared 'Encryption Unsuccessful' and it locked my phone. I tried to go to TWRP and it required the password that was 'default_password' but after it not allowed me to mount data and it seemed that there weren't any data in my phone.
I couldn't wipe, format or install other rom because I received error like 'unable to mount X'.
I've solved downloading the Oxygen Recovery and with a USB OTG, flashing it on my phone (with 'mount image' in TWRP).
I rebooted in Oxygen Recovery and it also asked me the password. I've just pushed 'Forgot password' and it formatted my phone.
The phone rebooted without problems (and without any data :\)
Hope to be useful for someone else in my same situation
You can get back in, without loosing any Data.
Go to TWRP
Choose Advanced
Select Terminal
Type this commands:
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block//bootdevice/by-name/misc
reboot
Use Android again
I encountered this problem after I updated TWRP to version 3.2.1-0.
I regularly update my rom with TWRP and had never been prompted to enter a pin/password before. My lock screen pin was not accepted.
Seems this issue is a bug in a number of TWRP versions. I fixed it by flashing back to version 3.1.1-2. You can download and flash from a list of historical TWRP versions in Android by downloading the official TWRP app, so I didn't need to mess around sideloading it. Rebooted into TWRP, straight in, no problems.
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I encountered this problem after I updated TWRP to version 3.2.1-0.
I regularly update my rom with TWRP and had never been prompted to enter a pin/password before. My lock screen pin was not accepted.
Seems this issue is a bug in a number of TWRP versions. I fixed it by flashing back to version 3.1.1-2. You can download and flash from a list of historical TWRP versions in Android by downloading the official TWRP app, so I didn't need to mess around sideloading it. Rebooted into TWRP, straight in, no problems.
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Same problem on one of my 3Ts, the other is working with the Oreo based TWRP.
Oreo based Red Wolf Recovery is working: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/oneplus-3--3t-cross-device-development/recovery-red-wolf-recovery-project-t3805416
These things are weird:
1. Why does one 3T work, but not the other 3T ?
2. Why does (Oreo based) Red Wolf Recovery work?
3. Why is OOS Beta 29 able to decrypt Data perfectly?
I assume it's a decryption related bug in Oreo based TWRP.
im stuck not able to get twrp to see any of my storage and i cant get into twrp twice in a row, so if i fastboot and flash twrp thru adb and then boot into twrp, it asks me for the password, if i hit cancel it just shows 0 storage. ive tried to go to adb sideload but it just sits there. I have the backup i made thru twrp before trying to update.
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im stuck not able to get twrp to see any of my storage and i cant get into twrp twice in a row, so if i fastboot and flash twrp thru adb and then boot into twrp, it asks me for the password, if i hit cancel it just shows 0 storage. ive tried to go to adb sideload but it just sits there. I have the backup i made thru twrp before trying to update.
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What exactly is it you're trying to do? What TWRP are you using? What ROM?
You sound surprised that you can't see your Storage when you haven't entered a Password to Decrypt? That is, after all, what it's supposed to do. What security have you set up on your phone? Did you have Boot time security?
With so little useful information to go on it's hard to help. I'd recommend trying Red Wolf Recovery in any case. It's magic at solving many issues.
Sorry lol what happen was I was updating to latest stable oos, and had standard encryption set up. I wipes caches, and flashed latest rom, then magisk and again twrp (which I should not have) and then my phone had a quick reset. From there it was locked with twrp, neither my pin or default_pw worked so I just formated my phone, after copying data and important things to PC. Everything is good now just had to waste my own time.
For those of you facing twrp encryption when you set a password on the phone, remove your lock screen password and twrp will no longer be encrypted.
raeee1 said:
For those of you facing twrp encryption when you set a password on the phone, remove your lock screen password and twrp will no longer be encrypted.
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Not so. I removed the password and TWRP still asks for a password.
hachamacha said:
The solution for me:
I received this reply in the TWRP thread in Development from the OP:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcadduono
try setting a non-pin password on boot in your OS, like, an actual password, this should convince 3.5.3 to rewrite your crypto key in working format
then see if that new password works on twrp
if it does, you can probably set it back to pin and the pin might start working in twrp
if it doesn't, let me know
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Yes, that completely fixed the entire mess and thanks to everyone else for their suggestions. Funny that I never had noticed the word "password" in the security settings, so I tried pin.
Now I've got an encrypted 3t with working TWRP, makes backups, tried a restore and f2fs, no real changes from stock aside from adding TWRP, picking a password, etc.
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This did not work for me.
I am currently stuck for 45+ minutes at the google reboot splashscreen (4 colorful spinning dots that eventually should turn into the word android once reboot is complete).
I followed an update procedure that I have used many times (last done November 16), although some of the files involved are somewhat old.
Starting from November 16 update for Marshmallow:
1 - Fastboot-Flashed that March 2017 factory image for Marshmallow (yes, there is still a Marshmallow... I dont' want Nougat yet). Flashed all partitions except data and recovery.
2 - Reboot directly into TWRP (I believe it is TWRP 3.0.2... I haven'te changed it recently)
3 - In TWRP: Flash superuser BETA-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550 i
4 - In TWRP: Clear space from app/system by deleting foreign language directories (to make room for xposed)
5 - IN TWRP: Flash xposed xposed-v79-sdk23-arm
6 - In TWRP - initiate reboot to system.
7 - As system rebooted, I entered my PIN.
That's where I am now. Note I never saw a screen for "optimizing apps" that was expected. I
Note I never rebooted to android system, so I'm not sure which step caused the problem (it was a method I developed to update quicker although in retrospect rebooting each step to check would be smarter).
I have some ideas of what to do eventually: (retry my flash one step at a time)
BUT, I don't know how to do anything with a phone that is stuck on the splashscreen:
* It does not respond to key combination on/volume-down (which normally goes to fastboot)
* When plugged into pc, it does not respond to fastboot devices
* There is no battery pull option on this phone.
What to do next to get control of my phone... let the battery run out on the splash screen?
Hmmm. Weird. Just held power-on and vol-down and it took me briefly to a different screen (android?) and then promprted for PIN, then back to splashscreen.
I kept pressing that combo and eventually did get into fastboot.
Now I'll flash again.
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I kept pressing that combo and eventually did get into fastboot.
Now I'll flash again.
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Hello. Not sure what caused your problem. Also, i don't use Xposed...
Just a heads up... Your SuperSU is really really old. Just use this one:
https://download.chainfire.eu/1021/SuperSU/SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip
Good luck...
The version of SuperSU he used likely was the cause of the bootloop.
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Hello. Not sure what caused your problem. Also, i don't use Xposed...
Just a heads up... Your SuperSU is really really old. Just use this one:
https://download.chainfire.eu/1021/SuperSU/SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip
Good luck...
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I reflashed the system and then flashed newer files:
SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip
xposed-v87-sdk23-arm
(with a reboot between flashing SU and flashing xposed).
Everything booted up fine.
Problem solved.
Thanks for the help!
Aren't you supposed to fastboot boot, not flash the su with marshmallow?
I thought I had finally reached nirvana with this device thanks to the help of so many here. I had TWRP, root, defeated encryption, and a nicely running Android. I was even able to make TWRP backups of /data and /boot (to be precise, at one point - not sure when it was but I think after initial Android setup - I was able to make a much more complete TWRP backup with many partitions never shown again but that disappeared at some point).
So I went on with my transition from my old Note3 phone to this device. I spent all day yesterday moving TiBackups of user apps, copying across data, making more limited TWRP backups (of data and boot the only options - except if I mounted system_root, which allowed me to include /system but that did not actually work either), polishing settings, and thinking I had it made! Throughout all of this I had no problems or signs of problems other than some apps not working on the new device and having to be replaced with alternatives which I completely expected.
At cocktail hour I decided to do a reboot to see the "finished product" of all this effort. When I did, the device tried to boot into Android: I saw the thinq logo but no boot animation, just the thinq logo for a very long time - followed by a screen blank and bootloop. I was able to enter TWRP and things looked "normal" from there. I kept trying to boot into system with no progress. I tried wiping /data, I tried restoring the backups I had made. Nothing changed - still bootlooping.
From within TWRP I can use adb shell to look around. I can see familiar stuff from my installed apps in /data/data and /data/app - including from one of the very last apps I installed (from Play not via TiBackup). I know this was not in any TWRP backup I had taken or restored. So this makes me think that my attempts to restore /data from backups or even wiping /data from TWRP have had no effect despite no errors showing. I wanted to see what was in /system so I mounted system and now in adb shell I can see familiar stuff in there too - including busybox installed into xbin. I can also mount vendor and in /vendor/etc I can see the fstab.judypn with encryptable for /data.
One thing I do NOT see is the result of one of the last things I did/tested. I installed Termux, installed the dropbear package, and copied the resulting dbclient binary to /data/local. After doing this I actually invoked /data/local/dbclient with success. Now, I do not see anything in /data/data/com.termux/files/usr related to dropbear nor do I see the dbclient in /data/local.
When I tried to power off from TWRP, the device never fully turned off. The animation showing the power level remained showing all the time but it was just a circle with lightening bolt but no actual power level showing. Removing power cable made no difference. Finally, I left the device in TWRP and powered on. At least I could blank the screen and prevent the battery from running dry.
All of this is with slot A current as reported by TWRP. I cannot seem to enter fastboot mode (I was previously able to do this from a power off condition by holding volume up and inserting USB). Of course, I am not able to achieve a real powered-off condition. Thankfully, I am still able to enter engineering mode and see the device in QFIL. But I have not tried anything here as of now. I can switch to slot b and get into download mode by holding power up and inserting USB. All attempts to use other TWRP boot options (save recovery and "power off") just put me into bootloop again.
I am stumped as to what is happening, how to "fix" this, or what to do.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Same thing happened to me. Yesterday.
I was going through my system programs, and nuked several of the extra Google Play items (Movies, Music, etc.). Same thing. Boot to V40 ThinkQ screen. Sat there for a while. Then reboot.
Nothing I did brought the old girl back to life. So I started over with kdz and redid everything again. Pain in the ass, but it's working again. Interestingly enough, loading the full kdz didn't relock the bootloader. I used both Refurbish and Partition DL on two separate attempts. Bootloader stayed unlocked throughout, and is still unlocked.
Had a devil of a time getting system to mount. Tried over and over again to get Magisk installed.
What finally worked was rebooting into recovery after pushing the .magisk file, and only then installing Magisk.
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NGOwner said:
Same thing happened to me. Yesterday.
I was going through my system programs, and nuked several of the extra Google Play items (Movies, Music, etc.). Same thing. Boot to V40 ThinkQ screen. Sat there for a while. Then reboot.
Nothing I did brought the old girl back to life. So I started over with kdz and redid everything again. Pain in the ass, but it's working again. Interestingly enough, loading the full kdz didn't relock the bootloader. I used both Refurbish and Partition DL on two separate attempts. Bootloader stayed unlocked throughout, and is still unlocked.
Had a devil of a time getting system to mount. Tried over and over again to get Magisk installed.
What finally worked was rebooting into recovery after pushing the .magisk file, and only then installing Magisk.
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Well, they say misery loves company and I do feel a bit better just knowing I am not alone here.
Since I could enter download mode, I too decided to try re-flashing the .kdz using LGUP's partition dl and specifically NOT checking boot_a, laf_a or boot_b as described here <https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82206107&postcount=115>. I was not fast enough to get into TWRP on the automatic reboot and saw that I was brought to a bootable system and an Android start page with the boot loader still locked and TWRP still there.
So did the partition dl again and managed to catch TWRP. I mounted vendor but when I tried to push the fstab I got something I have not seen before "remote could not create file: Read-only file system" and 0 files pushed. To be sure, I used adb shell and cat'ed /vendor/etc/fstab.judypn and it contains force encrypt. So I know things are not quite right.
Trying again from the partition dl. And this time I managed the push. I think I missed re-doing the ramdisk and rebooting into recovery. I made sure to do that this time and now I can proceed. I seem to have managed to get back to a bootable Android with TWRP, Magisk, and defeated encryption once again.
So I wonder if I should try to restore anything from a backup or just redo all of yesterday's efforts (like the movie Groundhog Day)?
Can I ask which device and firmware you are using? Thanks
I would not use any backups aside from the backups in your google account. Redo all of yesterday's efforts (except the one thing that caused the reboot loop ... whatever that was!).
You said your bootloader was relocked after LGUP? Or did you mistype there?
Odd. Mine wasn't, not once. Despite multiple LGUP loads.
I've got a crossflashed Sprint LM-V405UA to US specs 20E.
And yes, misery does love company!
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I would not use any backups aside from the backups in your google account. Redo all of yesterday's efforts (except the one thing that caused the reboot loop ... whatever that was!).
You said your bootloader was relocked after LGUP? Or did you mistype there?
Odd. Mine wasn't, not once. Despite multiple LGUP loads.
I've got a crossflashed Sprint LM-V405UA to US specs 20E.
And yes, misery does love company!
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No, you are correct - I mistyped. My bootloader has remained unlocked (this time I got it right)
Nor sure it matters any, but mine if a 405QA with 20E.
I have read some recently (while searching for this bootloop problem) that LG seems to have long had a problem with bootloops on their devices. Not sure I saw anything specifically about the V40 though. Seems that in the past they were "fixed" with software updates. I do not expect any updates beyond 20E and wonder if 20a (which I think I had earlier) would be any different/better.
I have had great luck with Nandroid and TWRP backups in the past. They have really saved me (most often from myself but also from apps/mods gone wild). Indeed, I used TWRP restore yesterday with the previous night's auto-made backup on my Note 3. It seems that in doing something - maybe the TiBackup of all user apps/data - the phone got messed up and even reboots would not fix it. The TWRP restore certainly did!
I am new to the whole Magisk "systemless" root as I have always used SuperSu before. As I understand it (which is limited for sure) the idea here is to NOT modify system in any way. But I also note that this does not seem to preclude me from modifying things in system using my file manager, for example. And I did some of this sort of thing. If you are nuking pre-installed apps, that would be changing system as well, no? I wonder if that is the activity that caused this?
I am a bit hesitant to re-live yesterday. At least not until I have some idea of what I did that caused this. Not sure what I will do.
Thanks for all the help.
PS - given that I had TWRP backup (of at least /data) and how often I rely upon these in everyday life, I decided to at least try restoring and see what happened. Hard to imagine ending up worse that I was earlier this morning. I did the restore and rebooted to system. I was shocked, quite frankly, to see the system come right up and have many of my previously installed apps visible and working. I did find that I had to re-enable the modules in EdXposed (even though they showed as enabled already) since they were not working) and that brought them back to life.
So I guess I can move forward from here being careful, taking TWRP backups even more often, and rebooting more often to see what, if anything, kills this again.
NGOwner said:
Same thing happened to me. Yesterday.
I was going through my system programs, and nuked several of the extra Google Play items (Movies, Music, etc.). Same thing. Boot to V40 ThinkQ screen. Sat there for a while. Then reboot.
Nothing I did brought the old girl back to life. So I started over with kdz and redid everything again. Pain in the ass, but it's working again. Interestingly enough, loading the full kdz didn't relock the bootloader. I used both Refurbish and Partition DL on two separate attempts. Bootloader stayed unlocked throughout, and is still unlocked.
Had a devil of a time getting system to mount. Tried over and over again to get Magisk installed.
What finally worked was rebooting into recovery after pushing the .magisk file, and only then installing Magisk.
[NG]Owner
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Well, this happened to me once again. I saw no reason why it should not do so. So I have been re-introducing apps from my TiBackup slowly and in under a strict protocol in an effort to (a) limit the damage done to my work and (b) try to isolate the culprit(s). I decided, since I found that I could restore TWRP backups of /data after re-doing the most of the TWRP install and defeat encryption process, that I would install apps slowly and execute them and in small groups. After each group I would do a reboot to see if that worked. If that worked, I would go into TWRP, run a backup, and name the backup of /data with something to id the app group that was added and seemed fine.
I started working backwards by the first letter of the app name. I first did U-Z and found that worked fine. Took a backup and went on to S-T. After this group it was bootloop time! So I put humpty-dumpty back together, restored the /data backup from U-Z, and this time installed only those apps starting with T. After this a no-problem reboot and a backup of /data and I will continue to plod on with those apps starting with S (and so on).
Horribly tedious. I can see no other way to proceed unless someone has a better idea.
PS - So I re-installed apps starting with S and basically had no problems. Hmmm. But I do recall that when testing execution of some of these apps the first time around, I decided to install busybox (Stericson), AdAway, and Afwall+ out of sequence. Before I did this I decided to check a bit more. I found that there is a Magisk busybox module and even though I have always used Stericson without troubles, I thought it best to use the Magisk module for this. I also found that Magisk has a setting for systemless hosts which could be affected by AdAway. So I enabled that before doing anything with AdAway. I also checked to see if AfWall+ might have any issues and found none. So I guess it is possible that using Stericson busybox or failing to use systemless hosts could have been an issue. I may never know for sure but at least so far I am fine after installing apps that I previously installed and had a bootloop. So FYI.
Alright, I'm a total idiot. I went and did this again, following the mantra: If it aint broke, you're not trying hard enough.
Setting all that aside, I went and tried to do some more debloating of my v40 (used this guide, that I was linked to from here), and wound up in "this fresh hell" again. Dammit! Crap.
So apparently there is a system application that is crucial to the boot of the phone that I uninstalled.
There is a fix to this, but it comes at a cost. Get into TWRP. Navigate to advanced, select Fix Recovery Reboot. Your phone will boot normally now. But you will lose root. And (so far) any attempt to reinstall Magisk to re-obtain root will result in the same bootloop again.
So here's where I need some help:
1) So if I wanted to reinstall my system partition to get back to stock from a KDZ, but still keep my installed apps, etc., how do I do that?
2) How do I get my Slot B to work correctly? It has only bootlooped there. Since I got my phone. Once I get my phone back to operational state with root, how do I make sure that Slot B works (so I have a backup I can fall back on if (when) I bork something else?
[NG]Owner
Hello everyone, how do you do?
I've got this phone that was running perfectly the stock rom, but I have that addiction to customize every phone I land my hands into (I guess some of you either haha).
But
This time something horrible happened, and I just can't back this phone to work. I'll tell what did I've done and I'm hopping you to help me (just paid a lot to fix the broken screen, don't want to buy a new board...)
Here we go: yesterday, several times I've tried to unlock the phone, and figure out that the fastboot command to do that have changed to fastboot oem unlock (at least in this phone), and had no need to copy that code into Motorola's page. After unlock, tried to install TWRP Recovery, several times, and finnaly got one that worked here. Okay. Ready to go. Also had difficulty to find a ROM that is compatible with this phone (I wanted some with Android 9, or 8.1, at least). I was capable to install the Lineage OS 15 Unnoficial for Nicklaus, but got stuck in Lineage OS Logo Screen. Fine. Downloaded the Lineage OS 14 Unnoficial (Android 7.1), flashed, and everything went fine! The ROM was installed, configured, but... My phone has the OnScreen Buttons for Navigation... And this ROM doesn't appear to get this to work... Every time I went to settings page and tried to enable this feature, the Settings Application stucks and phone restarts. So, at this point, I thought that the ROM was with some code problem, whatever, decided to download another. And (that was a HUGE MISTAKE). Downloaded the DotOS ROM here.
After flash, the ROM loaded up fine. Settings, ok, system, ok. But, the same problem with the Navigation Buttons. What? Again? Yes. Tried to enable via settings, but I realized that some configurations of Lineage OS installation is still there - forgot to wipe data before flashing ROM... But at this time (I guess it was 2AM) I had no patience to reboot, wipe, boot, configure, and decided to factory reset using the option in Settings menu. The DotOS shows me a logo saying "Wiping data". The phone reboots. And reboots. And reboots. But, the TWRP stills working, and tried many, many times to flash all sort of ROMs with no success at all.
I was going insane, you know, WHY I CAN'T FLASH THE ROM I'VE JUST FLASHED MINUTES AGO?? Got a clue: somehow when wiping data, DotOS bugged my /data partition (in TWRP, when wiping data, got an error in this partition, and cant fix it using TWRP fix menu). Tried a lot of tutorials over the internet to fix that partition, with no success. And, unfortunately, at that point my /system and /cache partition got broken too.
But, I had my secret weapon: THE STOCK ROM. Yes. Everytime all went wrong, is quite simple: just install the factory's ROM, and you will be fine. Right? Wrong. Really don't know why, I was not able to flash some images of the ROM (boot, recovery, system also). Thought I've downloaded the wrong Stock ROM. Tried another. And another. No success. What the hell? At this point my mind was not lucid enough, and decided to STUPIDLY FORMAT PARTITIONS BY MY SELF. Reboot Bootloader. Connect Cable. Fastboot.
fastboot devices -> OK
fastboot erase boot -> OK
fastboot erase userdata -> OK
fastboot erase system -> OK
That's it! Fixed! Now is just reboot, and... Reboot. Reboot. Reboot. Reboot.
Ok, Vol Down + Power. Nothing. Ok, Vol Up + Power. Nothing. Ok, Vol Up + Vol Down + Power, Vol Power + Dow Up, Fingerprint + Screen + Two Punches + Power. Nothing.
Stuck in boot loop. My worse nightmare. Thinked: okay, lets remove the battery, and... Remember I've just fixed the broken screen? Yeah. Out of lucky, the assistance tried THREE TIMES to change my screen, because the screen's provider at first provided a screen with ghost touches, at second a screen that had light glitches. At third, a correct screen. Don't want to loose my warranty, you know. If this third screen has some problem either? The assistance put that tag over the screw, you know. Can't take my battery off. But I really don't know if removing the battery will really help, because I've erased my boot partition. I hate me. My wife too (but she hated before). Now, got this tutorial: Ultimate Guide for [Bootloop Recovery] Noob Friendly, that is a little outdated, and can't help me. But gave me some hope: So, my phone isn't bricked yet! I can fix it!
But I really don't know how.
I hope someone helps me, and that this topic can be useful for any one who got stuck in Boot Loop from here to eternity.
Regards,
Fernando Garcia (sorry for my bad english, I only speak JavaScript)
fernandocg30 said:
Hello everyone, how do you do?
I've got this phone that was running perfectly the stock rom, but I have that addiction to customize every phone I land my hands into (I guess some of you either haha).
But
This time something horrible happened, and I just can't back this phone to work. I'll tell what did I've done and I'm hopping you to help me (just paid a lot to fix the broken screen, don't want to buy a new board...)
Here we go: yesterday, several times I've tried to unlock the phone, and figure out that the fastboot command to do that have changed to fastboot oem unlock (at least in this phone), and had no need to copy that code into Motorola's page. After unlock, tried to install TWRP Recovery, several times, and finnaly got one that worked here. Okay. Ready to go. Also had difficulty to find a ROM that is compatible with this phone (I wanted some with Android 9, or 8.1, at least). I was capable to install the Lineage OS 15 Unnoficial for Nicklaus, but got stuck in Lineage OS Logo Screen. Fine. Downloaded the Lineage OS 14 Unnoficial (Android 7.1), flashed, and everything went fine! The ROM was installed, configured, but... My phone has the OnScreen Buttons for Navigation... And this ROM doesn't appear to get this to work... Every time I went to settings page and tried to enable this feature, the Settings Application stucks and phone restarts. So, at this point, I thought that the ROM was with some code problem, whatever, decided to download another. And (that was a HUGE MISTAKE). Downloaded the DotOS ROM here.
After flash, the ROM loaded up fine. Settings, ok, system, ok. But, the same problem with the Navigation Buttons. What? Again? Yes. Tried to enable via settings, but I realized that some configurations of Lineage OS installation is still there - forgot to wipe data before flashing ROM... But at this time (I guess it was 2AM) I had no patience to reboot, wipe, boot, configure, and decided to factory reset using the option in Settings menu. The DotOS shows me a logo saying "Wiping data". The phone reboots. And reboots. And reboots. But, the TWRP stills working, and tried many, many times to flash all sort of ROMs with no success at all.
I was going insane, you know, WHY I CAN'T FLASH THE ROM I'VE JUST FLASHED MINUTES AGO?? Got a clue: somehow when wiping data, DotOS bugged my /data partition (in TWRP, when wiping data, got an error in this partition, and cant fix it using TWRP fix menu). Tried a lot of tutorials over the internet to fix that partition, with no success. And, unfortunately, at that point my /system and /cache partition got broken too.
But, I had my secret weapon: THE STOCK ROM. Yes. Everytime all went wrong, is quite simple: just install the factory's ROM, and you will be fine. Right? Wrong. Really don't know why, I was not able to flash some images of the ROM (boot, recovery, system also). Thought I've downloaded the wrong Stock ROM. Tried another. And another. No success. What the hell? At this point my mind was not lucid enough, and decided to STUPIDLY FORMAT PARTITIONS BY MY SELF. Reboot Bootloader. Connect Cable. Fastboot.
fastboot devices -> OK
fastboot erase boot -> OK
fastboot erase userdata -> OK
fastboot erase system -> OK
That's it! Fixed! Now is just reboot, and... Reboot. Reboot. Reboot. Reboot.
Ok, Vol Down + Power. Nothing. Ok, Vol Up + Power. Nothing. Ok, Vol Up + Vol Down + Power, Vol Power + Dow Up, Fingerprint + Screen + Two Punches + Power. Nothing.
Stuck in boot loop. My worse nightmare. Thinked: okay, lets remove the battery, and... Remember I've just fixed the broken screen? Yeah. Out of lucky, the assistance tried THREE TIMES to change my screen, because the screen's provider at first provided a screen with ghost touches, at second a screen that had light glitches. At third, a correct screen. Don't want to loose my warranty, you know. If this third screen has some problem either? The assistance put that tag over the screw, you know. Can't take my battery off. But I really don't know if removing the battery will really help, because I've erased my boot partition. I hate me. My wife too (but she hated before). Now, got this tutorial: Ultimate Guide for [Bootloop Recovery] Noob Friendly, that is a little outdated, and can't help me. But gave me some hope: So, my phone isn't bricked yet! I can fix it!
But I really don't know how.
I hope someone helps me, and that this topic can be useful for any one who got stuck in Boot Loop from here to eternity.
Regards,
Fernando Garcia (sorry for my bad english, I only speak JavaScript)
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Hey, download the stock rom for your from here:
https://motostockrom.com/motorola-moto-e4-plus-xt1773
And follow this process to flash the rom on to your phone:https://androidmtk.com/flash-stock-rom-using-smart-phone-flash-tool
Warning for this phone flashing process:
In SP flash tool, "do not" select 'format all+ download'(the phone will be bricked). Only select 'Download only'.
Secondly deselect preloader after adding scatter file(flashing it will also brick the device).
This all warnings are already given in the flash guide, i just want you to give proper attention while doing it.