OneUI/Android10 OTA too buggy? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Judging by the numerous complaints of issues with the new A10 updates, it looks like OneUI with Android 10 is NOT ready to replace Android9, yet it's rolling out as OTA upgrades. I predict it won't be long before people regret this new update and want to roll back to A9. I have a U1 variant and haven't gotten a prompt to update yet. It seem like a good time to fire up adb and disable the packages that are responsible for updates.
Anybody love the new OneUI w/A10 they got on their N9 via OTA? What's good about it?

I haven't had any issues and know a few others that haven't as well, but we are a small amoint of people, so yeah.
I really don't feel a difference between Android 9 and 10 with the exception of how dark mode is implemented now. That's honestly it for me. Battery life for me on the Note 8 and 9 have always been meh, but so has every other phone for me with the small exception of the Xperia Z Ultra and LG Optimus something big. Whatever the big one was.
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I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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butchieboy said:
I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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Google did state that Android 10 would be a significant improvement over Android Pie. Whether that is the case or not we have yet to be certain. But it is safe to say that Android Pie for the Note 9 will not be receiving any security patches now. As Samsung will only be releasing patches for Android 10 for the Note 9 from now on.

That is what I meant. 10 patches not Pie
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On 10 and loving it. Miss a few good lock options. Battery life has been great while gaming compared to 9. I read a lot of posts here and have not run across any issues yet.

This is what I am waiting for, more news of good or bad experiences with A10. I am very happy on A9 (I have U1 variant) and I dont want to click update yet because I like it how it is. I hate that they stop security patches tho. Dark mode means squat, I have themes that work for that. I also use good lock features alot. I guess I will keep postponing the update till I see more threads about it. The silence is weird, normally there are pages of complaints after a new version comes out.
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Iv been on 10 for awhile now, and i have noticed its a little sluggish. Flashed in odin, then i performed a factory reset and it is still sluggish. Hoping for an update soon

Yeah, comparing A10 to A9 (stock) is a different comparison than OneUI A10 to OneUI A9 (Samsung's) ... and that is because one of the major differences with stock Android is that A10 finally integrated dark mode.... But Samsung did that with OneUI on A9, sooo... I have OneUI with Android 9, everything is dark, it all looks good, and I like it. Also, nothing seems buggy.
It doesn't look like there is any reason at all to upgrade to OneUI w/A10, unless I like to take my chances and see if Samsung bugged up a rushed release.
I actually really, really, hate white apps. So if OneUI with A10 integrates dark mode into apps much better than it does with A9, then I would consider the upgrade, for Google apps like gmail, maps, docs, etc.

Good points from all. It's not that Android 10 is bad, it just doesnt seem much different then Android 9. For me the gestures were horrible. I'm sure peeps like them but just not for me.
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Android 10 OTA has been great for me - getting better battery life and everything smooth and fluid. No problems whatsoever, and I just did the upgrade OTA, no clean wipe or anything like that (thankfully). Did use Galaxy Labs App Optimiser and I do believe apps open noticeably faster afterwards.
P.S. Still using navigation gestures as I was on 9 and notice little difference.

How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?

Someone can tell me how is the volume on Android 10 compared to Android 9? Is it louder or similar?

gruuvin said:
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher

I am in San Francisco, with unlocked US Note 9, and have not received A10 update.
Has anyone on here in the bay area received it?
If needed, point me to another thread for this question.

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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9

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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?

I've had A10 for a few days now, and besides one small glitch (commas and periods are doubled when I press the icons, and sometimes the space doubles also using the space bar), I've had no issues with it.

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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
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I mean to say that I am running stock A9/OneUI with fullscreen gestures built into the OS (not from a third-party app), and from what people are describing about the fullscreen gestures in A10/OneUI, they are not any different. And yes, my fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps--no software buttons.

Ive found that A10 and UI2, cannot handle gestures and fullscreen mode any where near as well as A9 UI1.
Ive tried A10 twice now and both times, from a full wipe, the fullscreen/immersive mode messes up the A10 gestures. Whereas A9 can run fullscreen (no buttons, no taskbar, full immersive for all apps) and use gestures without any issue, and with just one swipe.
You try using proper fullscreen/immersive on A10 with gestures, and it takes two swipes to do anything, and Edge Panel Apps just gets ruined, as you cannot swipe open any more. There must be some conflict in Fullscreen/Immersive mode.
I use bxactions to toggle Fullscreen/Immersive from the Bixby button.

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PIE update - Mate 10 Pro - LIST OF PROBLEMS / ISSUE'S

Like the Subject title reads, can we start a list of all the known errors discovered in the Android Pie update, for the Mate 10 series phones?
:highfive:This will be a great thread to see if it is worth upgrading to Pie, for us still stuck on Oreo.
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
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I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
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Apparantly the new Gallery App is also not that great:
"The new photo gallery is a crap ,, whats the point of creating a new allbum called all photos ??
I miss the old one ,,,
And the worst thing is the new signal bars on the left with notifications !! What the heck is huawei thinking ?? We don't have a notch ,, this new emui is bs update"
As mentioned, Nova also buggy:
"So far, nova launcher is buggy, especially animations, and the previously working google cam port stopped working"
&
"Nova working fine here with the exception of recents and gestures. "
And also uses more RAM than on EMUI 8 / Oreo:
"EMUI 9 is soooo ram hungry. Dropping below a gig here from light use and everything is refreshing. "
Well dont know about ram. Its same for me as before
atm while doing nothing its sitting at 3gb just like in oreo.
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
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No it's not just you
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Maybe that's the reason, I hope that they will fix it soon :fingers-crossed:
I think in oreo there was like 1 second delay when pressing on screen and then trying to press navbar. it woudnt allow you to do that right away.
I'm getting the strong impression the Pie update, for the Mate 10 series, needs some more fine tuning. Maybe, with some updates it'll get better.
Let's get those bugs listed guys! :highfive:
Don't see a difference with the "super macro" mode in new camera software
MATE 10. The recent apps screen is ****, if you hit the one app that's halfway hidden on the side you just get dumped back to where you were without opening that app.
The camera app in my mate 10 eats up literally 600MB of RAM wtf? Also RAM usage in general is higher almost than EMUI 8 on the Mate 10, where I had 2.2GB free most of the timein 8.0, now the usual is 1.8GB, so that's 400MB more of RAM used for EMUI 9.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
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Yup, I also had this problem - it does bug me, typing a message and kept clicking home. I changed the nav bar to be hidden and use gestures now (swipe up for home, swipe left / right for back, swipe up and hold for task manager). This works for me!
Couple of other things I've noticed - takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
Ran a AnTuTu benchmark - previously it was around 200,000 - its now reporting about 160,000 but apart from the gmail delay (above) the phone still feels snappy! I then saw the performance setting (under battery) and switched this on to re-benchmark - got around 210,000 this time.
I've switched performance mode back off for now.
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takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
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It should have been obvious I guess! When I switch the performance mode on clearing these notifications is much quicker - this is the only thing I have really noticed in terms of speed with / without performance mode in the first couple of days.
Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
No more force LTE Only option, although you have tweak it before the update using System Editor. Hmmm...
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
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Somehow the files from their site dont work.
I downloaded from alternative site and it worked w/o issues.

Status bar and lockscreen notifications

So I just got my Mi 9 after deciding to move over from my Samsung galaxy S8. I don't understand what the hell is going on with the notifications it's really putting me off this phone after using for 2 days. From the lockscreen I can't see any notifications. Status bar just shows the time. I've checked "show icons for incoming notifications" in the notifications and status bar settings. However it only shows the icons for a few seconds before showing the clock again. Pretty inconvenient that I have to unlock and swipe the status bar down just to see my notifications.
I find it ridiculous that all these manufactures are making funny notches and cutout around the screen to increase screen-to-body ratio and increase size but fail to use all that space extra space to not only enhance user experience but to show important information that I could see easily on my previous smaller screen devices.
Am I missing something or is this how Xiaomi intend their users to view notifications?
Yes, that is the way to show notifications. I come from Mi 8 and it was the same. I'm really waiting for a update soon, because this mistake again is unacceptable.
Hoxitoel said:
Yes, that is the way to show notifications. I come from Mi 8 and it was the same. I'm really waiting for a update soon, because this mistake again is unacceptable.
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Bump. I read the problem was solved in a recent OTA but it's not for me. My notifications disappear after a second. It's very frustrating
Any update here? This Feature/Bug ist unacceptable!
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Any update here? This Feature/Bug ist unacceptable!
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Yes, it seems to be solved since version 17 of stable ROM together with the toggle to disable the artificial rouding of the notch but for some reason this update was not pushed OTA to everyone.
I'm stuck on version 15. Maybe they found bugs and pulled it or it's only available for some other chanels (on EEA here)...
Do you have a screenshot of the fix? I am on version 15 too. Cant wait for fix...
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Any update here? This Feature/Bug ist unacceptable!
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Yes, it seems to be solved since version 17 of stable ROM together with the toggle to disable the artificial rouding of the notch but for some reason this update was not pushed OTA to everyone.
I'm stuck on version 15. Maybe they found bugs and pulled it or it's only available for some other chanels (on EEA here)...
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Do you have a screenshot of the fix? I am on version 15 too. Cant wait for fix...
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I am on EEA 17, it's not fixed there. It's only fixed in global betas, which we can't get without unlocking bootloader.
Only disabling the notch extra rounding is there, but no notification icons, which is indeed stupid.
Maybe for some guys a quick help:
Search for Notch Notifications for MIUI.
That way notifications get shown under the clock...
New problem after it was fixed by Xiaomi
If u hide the notch, the notifications cut off right before the notch even tho there isn't a notch preventing them
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New problem after it was fixed by Xiaomi
If u hide the notch, the notifications cut off right before the notch even tho there isn't a notch preventing them
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Its like that now on Android, it only shows 5 icons. On my Mi A2 running Android One, it would cut even if there is no notch. Worse, it does that even on the system icons at the right.
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Its like that now on Android, it only shows 5 icons. On my Mi A2 running Android One, it would cut even if there is no notch. Worse, it does that even on the system icons at the right.
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Ow thanks for that insightful comment. Huh, didn't realise that's the case. Wondering how i didn't notice this when I had OnePlus 5T where I used Oxygen OS, some AOSP based and some Lineage OS based ROMs on pie but somehow didn't take notice. Maybe the status bar was shorter on it causing smaller icons so more fit in that width. Or maybe because this one has curve in corners unlike 5T which reduces usable space
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Android 10 - Beta 1 - OnePlus 7 and OnePlus 7 Pro

From the Oneplus site
Hey everyone,
We are very excited to announce that we are ready to roll out the very first Open Beta build based on Android 10 for the OnePlus 7 Series.
Changelog
System
Upgraded to Android 10
Brand new UI design
Enhanced location permissions for privacy
New customization feature in the Settings allowing you to choose icon shapes to be displayed in the Quick Settings
Full Screen Gestures
Added inward swipes from the left or right edge of the screen to go back
Added a bottom navigation bar to allow switching left or right for recent apps
Game Space
New Game Space feature now joins all your favorite games in one place for easier access and better gaming experience
Smart display
Supported intelligent info based on specific times, locations and events for Ambient Display (Settings - Display - Ambient Display - Smart Display)
Message
Now possible to block spam by keywords for Message (Messages - Spam - Settings -Blocking settings)
Known Issues
Application compatibility issues
Low probability of system lag and stability issues
Please note: This instruction is only for OnePlus 7/7 Pro, and please make sure the battery level is above 30% and minimum 3GB of available storage space.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...-for-the-oneplus-7-and-oneplus-7-pro.1099154/
The point of this thread was what exactly? To copy and paste the same exact thing from OnePlus Forums even though everyone knew that the Open Beta dropped yesterday?
TheKnux said:
The point of this thread was what exactly? To copy and paste the same exact thing from OnePlus Forums even though everyone knew that the Open Beta dropped yesterday?
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Well, I didn't see a thread here related to Beta-1 being available and unless everyone on XDA also reads the OnePlus community forums, it's probable there are people out there who don't know Beta-1 has been released. I also figured this could be a place to discuss bug findings and fixes/workarounds in a forum where, in my opinion, the technical skills of the average poster is higher and that we would see better problem reporting and solutions rather than posts on how to revert back or about when will Q stable be released.
Now, regarding your post, what was your point in posting your comment?
Nic2112 said:
Well, I didn't see a thread here related to Beta-1 being available and unless everyone on XDA also reads the OnePlus community forums, it's probable there are people out there who don't know Beta-1 has been released. I also figured this could be a place to discuss bug findings and fixes/workarounds in a forum where, in my opinion, the technical skills of the average poster is higher and that we would see better problem reporting and solutions rather than posts on how to revert back or about when will Q stable be released.
Now, regarding your post, what was your point in posting your comment?
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I was just curious. It makes more sense when you put it that way. I just figured @funkwizard is gonna make a post about it soon since he's usually the one that makes official posts about things related to OnePlus. There are already a few other bug posts about the beta so I just don't see a point in having multiple posts about the same thing cause then it just confusing and certain people like to ask the same thing on multiple threads instead of searching and then people have to answer the same questions people ask when they post the same thing all the time.
Navigation bars keeps resetting. And getting network locked message on TMobile to international phone
TheKnux said:
The point of this thread was what exactly? To copy and paste the same exact thing from OnePlus Forums even though everyone knew that the Open Beta dropped yesterday?
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Dropped what? Nothing dropped as far as I know. Open Beta is still there
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Dropped what? Nothing dropped as far as I know. Open Beta is still there
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Dropped. Meaning as landed, released, came out, etc. ??*
Stating it's for the 7 series is not technically correct as 7 pro 5G is once again left out and not considered or taken seriously
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Navigation bars keeps resetting. And getting network locked message on TMobile to international phone
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I get that when I try Nova or Lawnchair launchers, it will always revert back to the 3 buttons. I also got stuck while playing Fallout yesterday. I had the gestures turned on and could not get out of the game. Swipe up (home) or swipe up and hold (recent) wouldn't work. I was able to finally go back to the launcher by going nuts tapping randomly on the screen but that was as interesting bug... stuck in a game.
RSA still hasn't bothered updating their token app for Android Q, it still thinks my phone has no network connectivity (cell or WIFI)
Android 10 Encryption :/
Is there a workaround to acces the "/" partition when magisk won't work? Or acces an android q encrypted internal storage?
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I get that when I try Nova or Lawnchair launchers, it will always revert back to the 3 buttons. I also got stuck while playing Fallout yesterday. I had the gestures turned on and could not get out of the game. Swipe up (home) or swipe up and hold (recent) wouldn't work. I was able to finally go back to the launcher by going nuts tapping randomly on the screen but that was as interesting bug... stuck in a game.
RSA still hasn't bothered updating their token app for Android Q, it still thinks my phone has no network connectivity (cell or WIFI)
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Ok I was using lawnchair.. I'll just wait a few days ...
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Ok I was using lawnchair.. I'll just wait a few days ...
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You can switch back to gestures after setting a new launcher but I'm not sure how stable that it, the OS might want to revert back a few minutes later.
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You can switch back to gestures after setting a new launcher but I'm not sure how stable that it, the OS might want to revert back a few minutes later.
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Yeah that's what it was doing to me. But the network lock (no signal) was the killer
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I get that when I try Nova or Lawnchair launchers, it will always revert back to the 3 buttons. I also got stuck while playing Fallout yesterday. I had the gestures turned on and could not get out of the game. Swipe up (home) or swipe up and hold (recent) wouldn't work. I was able to finally go back to the launcher by going nuts tapping randomly on the screen but that was as interesting bug... stuck in a game.
RSA still hasn't bothered updating their token app for Android Q, it still thinks my phone has no network connectivity (cell or WIFI)
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I believe this has something to do with how the phone handles other launchers. When you are in another app for some time and then go back to home screen, the launcher gets opened which resets the buttons.
Already reported to OnePlus. I think others have also reported this to OnePlus.
If you want to consistently reproduce this issue, Just change the default launcher to OnePlus launcher and back to Nova, you will see the navbars reset
Battery life seems much better than DP5 for me. It has only been 24 hours of course so it's not long enough but I lost 6% battery for 3 hours at work while on DP5 it was closer to 20% for 3 hours of light use.
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You can switch back to gestures after setting a new launcher but I'm not sure how stable that it, the OS might want to revert back a few minutes later.
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Interestingly the gestures now rotate with the phone meaning to exit you must swipe on the horizontal edge.
Does anybody know why we don't get the dark mode? Pixel has it but why don't we? I don't mean the bad "forced" dark mode in developer options.
Zocker1304 said:
Interestingly the gestures now rotate with the phone meaning to exit you must swipe on the horizontal edge.
Does anybody know why we don't get the dark mode? Pixel has it but why don't we? I don't mean the bad "forced" dark mode in developer options.
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Use force dark ui in dev settings. Although I don't recommend because apps like Facebook and suck don't have dark mode and text will be unreadable
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Use force dark ui in dev settings. Although I don't recommend because apps like Facebook and suck don't have dark mode and text will be unreadable
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While I had override force dark on my ambient display became completely gray? I'm guessing it's just a system wide color inverter
Unfortunately the navbar will keep switching back on reboot/launcher change until OP fixes it. "Officially" the gesture navigation should only work with the stock launcher (since elements of the navigation are in the launcher itself), thus changing launchers will kill it (even though it is clear that the navigation works just fine without using the stock launcher). The reset is most likely caused by leftover code that checks if the launcher can provide the navigation gestures + recents, and if it can't, it disables the gestures (then proceeds to load recents + nav gestures from the fallback launcher, which is the stock one, but the reset still happens).
As for when the home gesture doesn't work. Try opening and closing the notification drawer, that usually fixes the nav gesture issues for me.
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Interestingly the gestures now rotate with the phone meaning to exit you must swipe on the horizontal edge.
Does anybody know why we don't get the dark mode? Pixel has it but why don't we? I don't mean the bad "forced" dark mode in developer options.
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I have the Android 10 beta on my op7 pro and I have dark mode
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Android 10 gestures

Hello!
Just updated to Android 10 and switched to the new gesture navigation and I love it. The inconvenience is that they seem to work only with the stock launcher which is terrible. Any workaround this issue ?
Well, i got Android 10 update yesterday (not beta but official live version). I use Nova launcher prime. Somehow gestures work - at least back button, to the home screen button and last used apps button all work. Double tap to open Bixby works too for me in Nova. I did Android upgrade, without phone reset.
NB! Nova launcher states in settings, that gestures don't work...but like i said, they work for me.
Such a shame that Samsung still makes a crappy launcher with no special features.
I guess we'll have to wait for updates, the pixel 4 got an update that made gestures work with 3rd party launchers.
I'm the same (Nova Prime), and my gestures are just as they were pre-upgrade - which I'm kind of happy about. But I just don't quite understand why! I didn't think launcher would affect it.
I'm sure that after Android 10 goes final you'll see a lot of apps update. I can understand a developer not wanting to spend a lot of time developing an app for beta compatibility. Even Samsung waits on their own apps while in beta, e.g. Good Lock.
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I'm sure that after Android 10 goes final you'll see a lot of apps update. I can understand a developer not wanting to spend a lot of time developing an app for beta compatibility. Even Samsung waits on their own apps while in beta, e.g. Good Lock.
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Erm...don't know if you are aware but the beta program is over,the final software is available via OTA update, I am not running a beta version of the software .
And Samsung just implemented Android 10's gesture navigation, which is available since September.

Question Third party launchers on S21 Ultra (Exynos)

Hello everybody.
I noticed there are some issues trying to use third party launchers such as NOVA or SmartLauncher.
Or, at least, that's what happens to me with the One UI 3.1.
I've been using NOVA since my first NEXUS and since then, moving to S7 up to the Note 10, even after choosing to be part of the Beta Testing Program, I've never had problems.
Now there are some laggy and crash issues. With both of the launchers aforementioned.
I don't know if this is due to the choice of using gestures instead on the buttons in the navigation bar (it doesn't look like, considering I tried to change) but it causes strange "movements" everytime I go back home: like the launcher restarts itself, if you know what I mean.
That never happened on my last device (the Note 10) with One UI 2.5: that's the reason why I'm seriously thinking it could be a problem of compatibility with the latest stock UI version.
Anybody with the same problem? Same issues? Or this "monster" behaves like it should?
Thank you
Best
IMPORTANT EDIT: I tried again and yes, it is gesture related. Deactivating the gesture navigation bar, everything went back to normal.
Yup, same issue. Flashes white after the next immediate touch action, blocking whatever that action was. Doesn't affect the stock launcher. I reported it to Samsung through their members app. Had to switch off of gesture navigation because of it. Dunno if the other gesture navigation is broken but I'm on buttons again.
I'm using good lock one hand operation + and FNG to compensate so left and right are still back. Swipe up is home and swipe up hold is recents.
Well the issue is with Google's gesture implementation. I am facing the issue with gestures too and contacted Nova launcher support and they have blamed google for it.
Its true, disabling gestures, everything works fine. I hope someone will find a solution to this.
I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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Maybe it's only affecting launchers with the Google feed
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
I've been using Apex Launcher Classic for years without issue and icon packs to customize (Desaturate pack is current favorite)
Works just fine with UI 3.1
I don't use the Gesture mode
blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
I distinctly remember there being similar issues with my s10+ at launch, so hopefully be fixed in the future
mtm1401 said:
I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
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The last point is true however the first two aren't for me. No issues with widgets or Task changer.
The white icon label lettering irritates me though but it's not not all the trouble comes with 3rd party launchers.
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
Best
Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Download nova companion
maxito71 said:
Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
Best
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Shape? Round, square... -far- less worse than Google or Apple designs
It's a pain sorting through them but there are good ones in there that most will like... for free.
If you're willing to take the performance and stability hit to have the "shape" well every rose has it's thorns.
2 back to back forced reloads taught me religion
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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With navigation gestures or buttons?
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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Me too! No problems until now!
I have been using nova launcher on my s21 ultra, since i got the phone ( with no gestures, only buttons ).
And i thought i was having a nice experience.
A few days ago i messed up my phone, debloated the wrong apps and had to factory reset. Since i was going with a fresh install i decided to use OneUI + some goodlock modules.
Boy.. i was wrong about the nova experience. Now i know how fluid and responsive the phone is supposed to be.
Anyway, apart from that, this is the official info from NOVA:
Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include:
• Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
• Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
• Animations not being as fluid as expected
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
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Install Hexed from the Play Store. Personalize a theme and in preferences check Navigation Bar Height and set it to 0. In regular Android settings make sure it's set to use the NavBar buttons and not the gestures. Install any third party gestures app that you like. Set up your third party gestures app then restart the phone. Then you'll have fully working third party gestures and everything will work like it used to. This is the only way I have found that fully fixes the gesture issues.

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