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[Q] Best Tethering Setup for Low Latency Gaming?

I need to play World of Warcraft on my laptop using my Nexus One's T-Mobile 3G connection. What can I do to reduce lag and optimize my phone for tethering?
I'm currently running the MIUI ROM which I realize is probably not optimal. I'm tethering through USB as it is gives about 50ms lower ping than using WiFi.
In WoW I'm getting 350ms to 400ms ping. However, on speedtest.net my ping is consistently less than 100ms. Is there anything I can do to further reduce my ping in game? I'ld like to get it down below 200ms if possible. I'm quite impressed with the tethering overall, but even lower latency will be awesome...especially for PvP
tyia

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
Try this?
Also, how much bandwidth do you have to be able to waste so much on WoW? XD

That looks interesting, I will give it a try.
haha...it's not a waste. I've so far used 2.8 GB out of Unlimited this month
I normally go well over 2GB each month...without any tethering. I would do that over Edge when I was on ATT up until last month!

Congrats, you fall into the .05% of people who are requiring the carriers to readdress their tethering/unlimited plans for the rest of us who don't play video games through a cell phone internet connection

REGARDLESS cellular packet latency is fairly high, NOWHERE NEAR what a real connection would be. So expect latency.

Playing WoW all day uses very little bandwidth. I used to tether and play and it was much smaller than I expected.
Watching one or two youtube videos is probably as much.

crachel said:
Congrats, you fall into the .05% of people who are requiring the carriers to readdress their tethering/unlimited plans for the rest of us who don't play video games through a cell phone internet connection
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Not really...I use far more data downloading my RSS feeds and ROMs than I do playing WoW. And this is only temporary(visiting parents for holidays)...all my 2+ GB a month data usage in the past has been from zero tethering.
If you want to blame anything for my data usage...blame XDA
Edit: Looking at my bill, about 12 hours of gaming used about 200 MB...but that's all data usage and not just WoW. That's like 16MB an hour. Less than a youtube video an hour.
khaytsus said:
REGARDLESS cellular packet latency is fairly high, NOWHERE NEAR what a real connection would be. So expect latency.
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No...3G latency is not very high. Did you see the speedtest I ran and posted? Edge's latency is around 500ms which is why it feels so much slower than 3G. It's really not the bandwidth difference as much as it is the latency difference.

For an update, the low latency fix gravufo posted helped. It dropped my latency about 100-150 ms which is very impressive.
I also learned that T-Mobile will throttle my data if I go over 5GB per month. However I don't think that will be an issue since I have 2GB more to go and my cycle is almost up.

[Q] Can the Nexus One act as a Wi-Fi hotspot using 802.11n?

Question in the title. Thanks.

From what I understand, the nexus can only send and receive at 2.4ghz rather than 5 ghz which is what gives an n radio its higher range. I don't think this is something software can patch. But I'd love to hear if I'm wrong.
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android01 said:
From what I understand, the nexus can only send and receive at 2.4ghz rather than 5 ghz which is what gives an n radio its higher range. I don't think this is something software can patch. But I'd love to hear if I'm wrong.
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802.11N exists in the 2.4Ghz spectrum, which is exactly how the N1 is able to connect to 802.11N hotspots broadcasting in the 2.4Ghz spectrum, but not to the 5Ghz ones

gravufo said:
802.11N exists in the 2.4Ghz spectrum, which is exactly how the N1 is able to connect to 802.11N hotspots broadcasting in the 2.4Ghz spectrum, but not to the 5Ghz ones
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Exactly. Now, what I want to know, is if I can use Wi-Fi hotspot to connect my laptop to my phone via 802.11n 2.4GHz.

I believe not - phone doesn't have MIMO capabilities required from 802.11n router. On the other hand, I don't see why it could help you in any possible way - it won't speed up the file transfer over the network (which is capped lower than 54Mbps - something around 4MB/s is the fastest achievable transfer rate on USB-SD, and it's not achievable under OS either, only in recovery - so network transfers will be also capped at that maximum or less), and it definitely won't speed up the internet (which is capped at 7.2Mbps).

Jack_R1 said:
I believe not - phone doesn't have MIMO capabilities required from 802.11n router. On the other hand, I don't see why it could help you in any possible way - it won't speed up the file transfer over the network (which is capped lower than 54Mbps - something around 4MB/s is the fastest achievable transfer rate on USB-SD, and it's not achievable under OS either, only in recovery - so network transfers will be also capped at that maximum or less), and it definitely won't speed up the internet (which is capped at 7.2Mbps).
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Thanks. I assumed that the transfer rate of my class 6 SD card was around 49Mbps (6MB/s), but I didn't didn't realize that transfers rates of the NAND flash (via the OS) were lower than 54Mbps (~6.6MB/s)...

efrant said:
Thanks. I assumed that the transfer rate of my class 6 SD card was around 49Mbps (6MB/s), but I didn't didn't realize that transfers rates of the NAND flash (via the OS) were lower than 54Mbps (~6.6MB/s)...
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Every transfer HAS to pass through the NAND flash? There's no way of going directly to the SD card?
That is interesting indeed!

gravufo said:
Every transfer HAS to pass through the NAND flash? There's no way of going directly to the SD card?
That is interesting indeed!
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No, I don't believe it does. However, the transfer rate of an SD card is slower than the onboard flash memory.

efrant said:
No, I don't believe it does. However, the transfer rate of an SD card is slower than the onboard flash memory.
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I'm not quite sure I understand...
You stated that the NAND memory had a speed "lower than 54Mbps (~6.6MB/s)" while your SD card has speeds "around 49Mbps (6MB/s)". Wouldn't a class 10 be technically faster than the NAND memory or does the "through the OS" part have something to do with the speed?
Thanks!

gravufo said:
I'm not quite sure I understand...
You stated that the NAND memory had a speed "lower than 54Mbps (~6.6MB/s)" while your SD card has speeds "around 49Mbps (6MB/s)". Wouldn't a class 10 be technically faster than the NAND memory or does the "through the OS" part have something to do with the speed?
Thanks!
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Jack (not me) said that the transfer rate of the NAND memory is lower than 54Mbps. I would have thought that they would have been much higher, that's why I asked the initial question. (And I made a typo: in my last post, I should have said the MAX speed of my SD card was around 49Mbps). But yes, you are right, a Class 10 card should have a max speed of ~82Mbps although I doubt you would ever realize that in real life.

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Jack (not me) said that the transfer rate of the NAND memory is lower than 54Mbps. I would have thought that they would have been much higher, that's why I asked the initial question. (And I made a typo: in my last post, I should have said the MAX speed of my SD card was around 49Mbps). But yes, you are right, a Class 10 card should have a max speed of ~82Mbps although I doubt you would ever realize that in real life.
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Yeah, I assumed NAND flash was much faster too... it's odd! I do realize class 10 would be useless most of the time, except maybe for extreme 720p recording
Anyways, merci beaucoup pour l'info

[Q] WIFI 802.11ac connection speed

Hello,
can anyone tell me what is the connection speed using 802.11ac ?
i know that on GN with wifi n you cannot exceed 65mbs and i hope HTC doesn't limit the ac to a speed lower than 900mbs.
Thank you!

Damn, you're talking about 900mbps? I've got a connection of only 21 mbps
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802.11ac is only as fast as your router and the speeds you get from your provider, and as far as I know, no provider offers 900mbps connections. I have xfinity 105 mbps package and the wifi on my iphone 5 averages 50 mbps

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802.11ac is only as fast as your router and the speeds you get from your provider, and as far as I know, no provider offers 900mbps connections. I have xfinity 105 mbps package and the wifi on my iphone 5 averages 50 mbps
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this is not entirely true.
google fiber has 1Gb internet solution but this is not what I'm trying to find out.
I want to know the connection speed showed in settings under wifi when you are connected to a 802.11ac router.

433Mbit/sec is the theoretical maximum for the HTC One
Source: https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/311231629559484417/photo/1

VeixES said:
433Mbit/sec is the theoretical maximum for the HTC One
Source: https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/311231629559484417/photo/1
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thank you very much!
its less than I expected but for a phone I think that's enough

sebastian17ro said:
thank you very much!
its less than I expected but for a phone I think that's enough
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Pardon by am I really intrigued by your question Do you by chance have the capacity to peak out the maximum limit of the wifi ac?

Riyal said:
Pardon by am I really intrigued by your question Do you by chance have the capacity to peak out the maximum limit of the wifi ac?
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yes, i can use all the bandwidth from a 802.11ac and the simplest example is file sharing.
also you are not limited to 1 process so you can simultaneously do file sharing, video streaming, download, upload etc.

I am finding that the HTC One refuses to connect to my Asus RT-AC66U router. Unfortunately the AC standard being draft, I suspect its a compatibility issue. It seems to go into authentication, delay, then try again over and over.
In the end I had to connect on my 2.4GHz output instead for now.

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I am finding that the HTC One refuses to connect to my Asus RT-AC66U router. Unfortunately the AC standard being draft, I suspect its a compatibility issue.
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Hope not that's the router u was looking at getting,
Ps if you or any one can post a screen shot showing the connection speed
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I'm finding that my One has a better connection to my VM SuperHub than my blasted PC does! Seems so bloody quick.

here it is:
Source: https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/statu...484417/photo/1

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here it is:
Source: https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/statu...484417/photo/1
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The link is not working.
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Here is my screenshot connected to VM Superhub, 30mb broadband.......

I got the phone working with my Asus RT-AC66U by updating to unofficial Beta firmware .352 on the Asus. I have a 38MB connection with BT Infinity, but I can't get higher than 31Meg with the speedtest on download on the One, but I do see 36.5 from a PC so for some reason I am not quite maxing out.

jonstatt said:
I got the phone working with my Asus RT-AC66U by updating to unofficial Beta firmware .352 on the Asus. I have a 38MB connection with BT Infinity, but I can't get higher than 31Meg with the speedtest on download on the One, but I do see 36.5 from a PC so for some reason I am not quite maxing out.
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you might be limited due to write speed on phone's memory card.
can you transfer trough ftp from your pc to the phone a large file and monitor the transfer speed?
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sebastian17ro said:
you might be limited due to write speed on phone's memory card.
can you transfer trough ftp from your pc to the phone a large file and monitor the transfer speed?
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It's not that,
I an able to hit 40+ on wireless N
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46Mbps has been the max so far,
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Steven_belfast said:
46Mbps has been the max so far
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can you transfer some files from PC to ONE through wifi ac and monitor the transfer speed?
I know the connection speed with the Asus rt-ac66u is 433Mbs (54 MBs) and now I'm curious about the write limitation on internal memory
thanks

sebastian17ro said:
can you transfer some files from PC to ONE through wifi ac and monitor the transfer speed?
I know the connection speed with the Asus rt-ac66u is 433Mbs (54 MBs) and now I'm curious about the write limitation on internal memory
thanks
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I would if I had an ac router.
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5GHz Wifi

I just noticed that my MX isn't seeing my 5GHz wifi.
Is it just my phone that needs to go back or has anyone else had this problem?
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I get my Netgear's 5GHz wifi to appear and can connect to it as well. I'm on the Dev Edition if that helps.
Is there a way for you to check if another device can see the 5GHz wifi?

Check what channel your 5ghz is on. I used wifi analyzer and under channels I noticed only certain ones were checked. I changed my router to one of those and it works great.
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Your 5Ghz will have shorter range than 2.4. Are you fairly close to the router or access point?
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Yeah, my GS3 had no problems seeing and connecting to my 5GHZ network. Seems like it might be a hardware thing.
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My Moto X seems to do extremely well with 5ghz wifi. Way better that my former Samsung GS2. Much better range in particular, though still not as good as 2.4 ghz. However, this phone may have issues with some routers as I have problems with 2.4 ghz wifi and my netgear WNDR3700 as referenced here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433041&highlight=wifi+issues
I should also point out I have very little 5 ghz interference, but many neighboring 2.4 ghz access points. This is on small lots, not in an apartment so its still mostly ok.

Make sure the 5 GHz radio in enabled under Settings > WiFi > Advanced > Wifi frequency band

Yeah, I might have to get my phone changed out. My laptop is connected to 5ghz but my phone won't even see it.
**Edit**
So while looking at Wifi Analyzer, I realized that my phone doesn't support anything below channel 149 on the 5GHZ range. Mine is fancy wireless
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Odd. My phone performs flawlessly on ch 36, and is much, much better than my Galaxy Note... You might have a defective unit or a bad routet.
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I was using channel 36 and had no issues with the rest of my devices. Must just be my phone.
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My phone works on 5, but only if I force it. Otherwise it chooses 2.4. 10 feet from the router
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My phone works on 5, but only if I force it. Otherwise it chooses 2.4. 10 feet from the router
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There is a reason for that.
When your phone scans for a WiFi network, it scans through 11 wireless channels on 2.4Ghz (in the US). When your phone scans for 5Ghz it has more channels to scan through, 13-15 depending on your router.
That combined with already mentioned reasons such as better 2.4Ghz propagation in homes/offices makes it easier for the phone to connect. Whether 2.4Ghz or 5.8Ghz, every gain increase of 3dBm doubles transmit power. In one given spot with your router in another room, your 2.4Ghz signal is typically going to be stronger. It is going to choose the 2.4Ghz because the phone scanned and saw it, and the signal was strong.

grenefroggie said:
There is a reason for that.
When your phone scans for a WiFi network, it scans through 11 wireless channels on 2.4Ghz (in the US). When your phone scans for 5Ghz it has more channels to scan through, 13-15 depending on your router.
That combined with already mentioned reasons such as better 2.4Ghz propagation in homes/offices makes it easier for the phone to connect. Whether 2.4Ghz or 5.8Ghz, every gain increase of 3dBm doubles transmit power. In one given spot with your router in another room, your 2.4Ghz signal is typically going to be stronger. It is going to choose the 2.4Ghz because the phone scanned and saw it, and the signal was strong.
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I'm embarrassed I didn't think of that actually... Thanks for the refresher
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I just removed my password from my g network, the motor x's range is good enough to cover my whole house on n.
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murso74 said:
I'm embarrassed I didn't think of that actually... Thanks for the refresher
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yup. i ended up forgetting my 2.4 bands in favor of the 5. now i'm upset that nothing else in my house uses the 5.

There is also a chance that depending on the cell band and frequency your phone is using it may disable certain wifi channels as they may interfere with each other. I know depending on certain cell/wifi/bt combos various power levels in the phone are reduced, I wouldn't doubt there are other rules in play as well.

Steve-x said:
There is also a chance that depending on the cell band and frequency your phone is using it may disable certain wifi channels as they may interfere with each other. I know depending on certain cell/wifi/bt combos various power levels in the phone are reduced, I wouldn't doubt there are other rules in play as well.
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In the US, 2100Mhz and 2500Mhz are the closest freqs used near a WiFi router. Channel 11 is 2462Mhz, with 3 more channels left before hitting 2.5Ghz. No carrier to my knowledge uses 5Ghz. DFS starts at 5260 to 5700.
However, BT uses 2.4Ghz, though the radio in your router likely has more output power and will force the BT to change the channel it is on.

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In the US, 2100Mhz and 2500Mhz are the closest freqs used near a WiFi router. Channel 11 is 2462Mhz, with 3 more channels left before hitting 2.5Ghz. No carrier to my knowledge uses 5Ghz. DFS starts at 5260 to 5700.
However, BT uses 2.4Ghz, though the radio in your router likely has more output power and will force the BT to change the channel it is on.
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There is way more in play then that. When a radio transmits on 850 Mhz is also transmits a lower power carrier at 1900 Mhz (known as harmonics) They are greatly reduced in power level but if they are right beside the receiver(as the case would be in a cell phone) it can cause problems. With all the possible bands a phone can transmit and receive on there will always be combinations of harmonics that will reduce the performance of other receivers in the phone. It is also possible to have further issues from mixing products but I won't go into that here.

Steve-x said:
There is way more in play then that. When a radio transmits on 850 Mhz is also transmits a lower power carrier at 1900 Mhz (known as harmonics) They are greatly reduced in power level but if they are right beside the receiver(as the case would be in a cell phone) it can cause problems. With all the possible bands a phone can transmit and receive on there will always be combinations of harmonics that will reduce the performance of other receivers in the phone. It is also possible to have further issues from mixing products but I won't go into that here.
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True. I didn't really think to mention harmonics, as most people do not care nor do they understand. There are many things at play, as you said, and I will be the first to say that I do not know all of them, but you raise a good point. I am still not sure if anything running on 1900Mhz would cause issues in the 2.4Ghz band, but I have seen much stranger things happen.

[FIxed]Note 9 vs p20 pro Download speed

I was feeling there was an issue with my Note 9 compared to my Note 8 and P20p Thus i decided to do a speedtest. the phones were at the same place and nothing was using the bandwidth. Surprise. look at the video, and you will see. (N8 and p20 came with the same results).
I would like to ask some of you who already have it to test it against other phones to see if i'm the only one with this issue. I have the latest firmware on it and didn't test it before the update...but this is really not normal. I also feel it's just "slower" in general than the p20p...
check this link for the video

Upload video on Youtube plz

Yeah, as a network engineer I'm not going to touch random files on a Dropbox. At least link a speedtest.net result or the image.
I have my note 9 coming on Friday so I can put some effort into getting the optimal wireless connection (there's so many variables involved, I'm a wireless network engineer working for a wisp so all in my realm of knowledge) and give it a test.
I'd be very surprised if its a downgrade compared to Huawei, Samsung spend a lot of time on their LTE radios, now running on CAT 18, with MIMO, for a theoretical bandwidth of 1.2 gbit/s. Will know for sure Friday!
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Can't find info on the chipset in the S9+, but I can find that they have MU-MIMO and 1024QAM, so it definitely should be quicker if you have a router supporting the above.
https://bgr.com/2018/02/25/samsung-galaxy-s9-specs-galaxy-s9-plus-specs-complete-list/

Zanr Zij said:
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MartyDingo said:
Yeah, as a network engineer I'm not going to touch random files on a Dropbox. At least link a speedtest.net result or the image.
I have my note 9 coming on Friday so I can put some effort into getting the optimal wireless connection (there's so many variables involved, I'm a wireless network engineer working for a wisp so all in my realm of knowledge) and give it a test.
I'd be very surprised if its a downgrade compared to Huawei, Samsung spend a lot of time on their LTE radios, now running on CAT 18, with MIMO, for a theoretical bandwidth of 1.2 gbit/s. Will know for sure Friday!
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Can't find info on the chipset in the S9+, but I can find that they have MU-MIMO and 1024QAM, so it definitely should be quicker if you have a router supporting the above.
https://bgr.com/2018/02/25/samsung-galaxy-s9-specs-galaxy-s9-plus-specs-complete-list/
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Here you go guys. will update the original post also
https://youtu.be/xEOVgHz7dhg
PS : for information i'm on Ubiquiti hardware here.

Strangely i was able to when i cleared cache....

Aha, well, I'm UBWA certified actually
We're bound to see some minor oddities like such before launch, nice to know its not the phone!

not that shocking to be honest shocking would be getting like 2mg dl not still nearly 50 lol

MartyDingo said:
Aha, well, I'm UBWA certified actually
We're bound to see some minor oddities like such before launch, nice to know its not the phone!
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i would interested in your thoughts, post on Friday or weekend in UK thread

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i would interested in your thoughts, post on Friday or weekend in UK thread
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Shall do!
I'll be doing it for my own amusement so definitely happy to share!

Since the test was on WiFi, and not LTE the work Samsung has done on the modem is irelivant.
My question is, are they really on the same network? The results make me think that your Note may be hitting the 2ghz network not the 5ghz network.

boufa said:
Since the test was on WiFi, and not LTE the work Samsung has done on the modem is irelivant.
My question is, are they really on the same network? The results make me think that your Note may be hitting the 2ghz network not the 5ghz network.
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Read the thead mate, it was a cache issue. I was only pointing out Samsungs dedication to connectivity, and I did follow up with somewhat comparable specs for the radio.
It could be a number of things, potentially more sensitive radio in the note 9 that struggles to handle interference, etc, it'd be pretty obvious to be on the wrong network.

MartyDingo said:
Read the thead mate, it was a cache issue. I was only pointing out Samsungs dedication to connectivity, and I did follow up with somewhat comparable specs for the radio.
It could be a number of things, potentially more sensitive radio in the note 9 that struggles to handle interference, etc, it'd be pretty obvious to be on the wrong network.
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Perhaps Mate, you need to clarify... first you wrote "shocking!" in the header of the thread, then in one post you said "Strangely i was able to when i cleared cache...." which didn't mean anything to me, and certainly not that you discovered the problem.
And no... being on a 2ghz network vs 5ghz network can be an invisible decision made by the hardware, and many networks are using the same network name. So it wouldn't necessarily be obvious.
For example, in my house, the network ID is "MyHouse" for both the 5ghz and the 2 ghz networks... the Chromecast is on the 2ghz network, and my phone is hitting the 5 ghz network. They see each other and is seamless.

Dude, I don't know one router that has the same SSID by default for both networks. Someone changing the network should notice the difference then.
BTW, I'm not OP, just someone helping.

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Definitely not an issue!
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/4187326458

Though i would add my results here also, Verizon snapdragon model. Definitely seems like something is going on with your test. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/4188275993

so you guys testing your wifi speed using your isp network is telling us what exactly?
at best you should test locally but even there. if your network equipment is not on pare then again your testing with too many faulty variables and it won't show phones true potential.
ignorant people would state that a phones wifi has issues because upload speeds sucks compared to DL or just both seem slow.
but in fact what sucks is ISP internet package and not the phone. obviously other parameters like specific servers the test is being done on can co tribute to faulty 'online' test results.
so we have a few factors which make tests like these irrelevant:
-****ty internet package subscription
-****ty test server
-****ty home network
for cell data tests, well we need good weather and be near a cell tower.
but again this proves less concerning phone's capabilites as throughput but more towards signal quality.
and the average will be provider's coverage. how many towers they utilise and your signal strength in general in most common locations you visit.
*btw OP dude, do everyone a favor and correct your thread title...

i was tested on 4 devices, Note 8, XZ2, Iphone X and Note 9, so seem XZ2 always faster and winner
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so you guys testing your wifi speed using your isp network is telling us what exactly?
at best you should test locally but even there. if your network equipment is not on pare then again your testing with too many faulty variables and it won't show phones true potential.
ignorant people would state that a phones wifi has issues because upload speeds sucks compared to DL or just both seem slow.
but in fact what sucks is ISP internet package and not the phone. obviously other parameters like specific servers the test is being done on can co tribute to faulty 'online' test results.
so we have a few factors which make tests like these irrelevant:
-****ty internet package subscription
-****ty test server
-****ty home network
for cell data tests, well we need good weather and be near a cell tower.
but again this proves less concerning phone's capabilites as throughput but more towards signal quality.
and the average will be provider's coverage. how many towers they utilise and your signal strength in general in most common locations you visit.
*btw OP dude, do everyone a favor and correct your thread title...
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Sorry dude, but there's so many more factors to be able to throw any of this out. I really hope no one is taking this that seriously.
For one, I have no idea about the noise floor (background EMF noise level) on whichever frequency people have decided to run your AP. (Be it 2.4 or 5ghz, and then which channel, 2.4 ghz only really has three channels, 1,6,11, with the other channels just being overlaps. 5ghz has a lot more but usually everything is on 5180 (channel 36) due to DFS above 5250mhz in mos6 countries. Chances are all of you are suffering from interference.
Then we could talk about MIMO. Each MIMO chain nets you +3db so routers supporting MU-MIMO could see big signal increases just from both devices having multiple MIMO streams going on.
S9+ (and probably the note 9) supports QAM1024, essentially fitting more data over a link at once to the risk of needing a higher signal to noise ratio (this is where noise floors and interference comes heavily into it)
Every situation is unique, I think we should try and explore but please share your enviroment, I.e your router, where you are (apartment, house, city, rural etc) and then we can only start making sense of things.

MartyDingo said:
Sorry dude, but there's so many more factors to be able to throw any of this out. I really hope no one is taking this that seriously.
For one, I have no idea about the noise floor (background EMF noise level) on whichever frequency people have decided to run your AP. (Be it 2.4 or 5ghz, and then which channel, 2.4 ghz only really has three channels, 1,6,11, with the other channels just being overlaps. 5ghz has a lot more but usually everything is on 5180 (channel 36) due to DFS above 5250mhz in mos6 countries. Chances are all of you are suffering from interference.
Then we could talk about MIMO. Each MIMO chain nets you +3db so routers supporting MU-MIMO could see big signal increases just from both devices having multiple MIMO streams going on.
S9+ (and probably the note 9) supports QAM1024, essentially fitting more data over a link at once to the risk of needing a higher signal to noise ratio (this is where noise floors and interference comes heavily into it)
Every situation is unique, I think we should try and explore but please share your enviroment, I.e your router, where you are (apartment, house, city, rural etc) and then we can only start making sense of things.
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but you have to agree that it is folly to report wifi speedtests using home internet and its limitations by the ISP as being a way to gauge a phone's capabilites.

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but you have to agree that it is folly to report wifi speedtests using home internet and its limitations by the ISP as being a way to gauge a phone's capabilites.
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No, I'm not sure I agree.
If you cable into your router and do a speed test, and use that as your comparison point, I don't see the problem with using a home connection to test.
I don't know what limitations you're talking about, in my experience for speed testing you're routed into the DC where your ISP has its presence then either a speed test server within your ISPs DC network or one right next to it in the same DC.
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Now if you're using the router supplied by your ISP, whole different story.