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Flashed 15 different times today, stock OOS 7.0. camera works fine on stock, even with magisk installed. As soon as I flash any custom kernel the camera app gets unknown error. Tried clearing cache, etc everything. Only stock kernel works. What gives?
You might want to read the kernel threads for help. Seems like if it was a kernel issue like you claim then someone else might have noticed it. Sounds like user error to me
954wrecker said:
You might want to read the kernel threads for help. Seems like if it was a kernel issue like you claim then someone else might have noticed it. Sounds like user error to me
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Thanks brain.
Magisk is the reason for those errors, im using custom kernel since android 7.0 with system less superSU only, I already tried three different custom kernels here and they didn't gave me any camera errors
J4DedPrez said:
Thanks brain.
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Wow, smartass answer for someone who can't flash a kernel without breaking the camera.
Actually, the answer is the solution you need, search and read.
exaflare said:
Magisk is the reason for those errors, im using custom kernel since android 7.0 with system less superSU only, I already tried three different custom kernels here and they didn't gave me any camera errors
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Thank you friend, sometimes being nice and giving the simple solution is the simplest method.
Migdilu said:
Wow, smartass answer for someone who can't flash a kernel without breaking the camera.
Actually, the answer is the solution you need, search and read.
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Typical XDA user... It's a real shame kids these days act the way they do
J4DedPrez said:
Typical XDA user... It's a real shame kids these days act the way they do
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What it's a shame is that there are people who don't know how to read.
Magisk does work with custom kernels, but the order you flash them in is important. Magisk alters certain files in the /boot partition, which is also where the kernel is located. You should flash Magisk first over a clean ROM prior to flashing any custom kernels, or else you may run into issues. If an update for Magisk is pushed, you should also install it in the following order:
1) Dirty flash ROM (or stock kernel)
2) Flash Magisk
3) Flash custom kernel
I'm currently using Magisk v11.6 with Franco's r16 on OOS 4.1.0 without a problem.
Don't mean to be rude, but did you flash the compatible kernel; and not using adb sideload problems; on TWRP 3.0.4-1?
If you did, well then Magisk seems to be a problem for you.
And do post logs next time of you encounter a problem until and unless you are sure you everybody can reproduce that problem with the steps mentioned (which should be though)
If you're still in Android 7.0 (like me), do not use the latest custom kernel release, it will break your camera (Unknown Error). I think it's because the dev has rebased their kernel to the new Android 7.1.1.
Currently, I'm still on FredomOS 2.5 (OOS 4.0.3) and its combined with BluSpark v.72 (last release before the 7.1.1 rebase).
I don't want to use the latest OOS update since it's still full of annoying bugs.
In my opinion only people who understand what they are doing with this kind of stuff should get the oneplus 3 or 3t as it isn't very noob friendly and takes someone that is some what an advanced user or at least knows a little about flashing ROMs and kernels etc..... Or at least is willing to search around and read before they complain to everyone that they can't figure it out. If you want a phone that is simple and noob use friendly then go to Samsung or Apple. not oneplus as phone from this company are aimed at the intermediate up to power user that understands how to solve irregular problems. I've had none of these issues even when I was using my oneplus x. I use the unofficial RR with ex kernel and no problems with camera or anything and great battery life. Bottom line is (in my opinion anyways) oneplus phones are for the more technically savvy so if you aren't some one like that expect to run in to difficulties and have to do some deep research in certain cases. But this is a great community here at xda and we are all willing to help as much as we can but patience is a must.
Anova's Origin said:
Magisk does work with custom kernels, but the order you flash them in is important. Magisk alters certain files in the /boot partition, which is also where the kernel is located. You should flash Magisk first over a clean ROM prior to flashing any custom kernels, or else you may run into issues. If an update for Magisk is pushed, you should also install it in the following order:
1) Dirty flash ROM (or stock kernel)
2) Flash Magisk
3) Flash custom kernel
I'm currently using Magisk v11.6 with Franco's r16 on OOS 4.1.0 without a problem.
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Same exact order as you, even flashed fresh ROM and kernel only. Can't explain it at all. For now, I'm on stock with no custom kernel but have magisk.
mrinmaydhar said:
Don't mean to be rude, but did you flash the compatible kernel; and not using adb sideload problems; on TWRP 3.0.4-1?
If you did, well then Magisk seems to be a problem for you.
And do post logs next time of you encounter a problem until and unless you are sure you everybody can reproduce that problem with the steps mentioned (which should be though)
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No sideload, using most recent TWRP, and yes, I will have logs to post tomorrow. As a quick flasher I never really bother for the logs, but this time I'm getting down to the bottom of this. I'll have logs tomorrow
motherninja said:
If you're still in Android 7.0 (like me), do not use the latest custom kernel release, it will break your camera (Unknown Error). I think it's because the dev has rebased their kernel to the new Android 7.1.1.
Currently, I'm still on FredomOS 2.5 (OOS 4.0.3) and its combined with BluSpark v.72 (last release before the 7.1.1 rebase).
I don't want to use the latest OOS update since it's still full of annoying bugs.
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This is exactly the issue. Thank you
se7ensde said:
In my opinion only people who understand what they are doing with this kind of stuff should get the oneplus 3 or 3t as it isn't very noob friendly and takes someone that is some what an advanced user or at least knows a little about flashing ROMs and kernels etc..... Or at least is willing to search around and read before they complain to everyone that they can't figure it out. If you want a phone that is simple and noob use friendly then go to Samsung or Apple. not oneplus as phone from this company are aimed at the intermediate up to power user that understands how to solve irregular problems. I've had none of these issues even when I was using my oneplus x. I use the unofficial RR with ex kernel and no problems with camera or anything and great battery life. Bottom line is (in my opinion anyways) oneplus phones are for the more technically savvy so if you aren't some one like that expect to run in to difficulties and have to do some deep research in certain cases. But this is a great community here at xda and we are all willing to help as much as we can but patience is a must.
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:good:
Flashing kernels made for 7.1.1 on 7.0 FW.
954wrecker said:
You might want to read the kernel threads for help. Seems like if it was a kernel issue like you claim then someone else might have noticed it. Sounds like user error to me
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Normal, helpful, response(don't be discouraged by some).
J4DedPrez said:
Thanks brain.
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Douche response.
Migdilu said:
Wow, smartass answer for someone who can't flash a kernel without breaking the camera.
Actually, the answer is the solution you need, search and read.
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Obvious observation.
J4DedPrez said:
Thank you friend, sometimes being nice and giving the simple solution is the simplest method.
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Hypocrisy.
Hi all !
This discussion might be related with my issue explained here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/camera-flashlight-youtube-t3886260
but only thing is I never flashed custom kernels, issue appears after a official update !
Any opinion, ideas ?
Thanks
Which ROM should I install if I want the most amount of settings and ways to customize things?
Some additional thoughts...
Does one even need a custom ROM these days, or can most things be changed using "Xposed installer"?
Are there any drawbacks using a custom ROM?
1. RR is a good choice IMO.
2. More features to play with. Themes. More updates.
3. Xposed doesn't exist on Nougat.
4. Nope except not be able to use full stock features. Stability? It depends on the ROMs and the maturity of the Android version.
Primokorn said:
1. RR is a good choice IMO.
2. More features to play with. Themes. More updates.
3. Xposed doesn't exist on Nougat.
4. Nope except not be able to use full stock features. Stability? It depends on the ROMs and the maturity of the Android version.
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Thank you for a good response.
What are some of the stock features, just to get an idea?
white-k said:
Thank you for a good response.
What are some of the stock features, just to get an idea?
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Oxygen OS apps (but you can get a port version for Camera and Gallery)
Dark UI (but you can flash a ROM supporting Substratum)
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I don't remember OOS well and since I have a preference for custom ROMs over stock firmware I can't give you many reasons to stay on OOS. If you want to have the latest Android version, some day you will have flash a custom ROM.
Primokorn said:
Oxygen OS apps (but you can get a port version for Camera and Gallery)
Dark UI (but you can flash a ROM supporting Substratum)
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I don't remember OOS well and since I have a preference for custom ROMs over stock firmware I can't give you many reasons to stay on OOS. If you want to have the latest Android version, some day you will have flash a custom ROM.
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Thank you.
I've spent ten minutes trying to figure out which one is the official (or best) version of Resurrection Remix. Can you point me in the right way?
The one in your signature says it has a pirate-icon if you install pirate stuff. And while I may not do that, I still don't like the idea of that.
So which RR would you recommend?
white-k said:
Thank you.
I've spent ten minutes trying to figure out which one is the official (or best) version of Resurrection Remix. Can you point me in the right way?
The one in your signature says it has a pirate-icon if you install pirate stuff. And while I may not do that, I still don't like the idea of that.
So which RR would you recommend?
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Checkout:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...pment/rom-kernel-resurrectionremix-n-t3524715
or
https://plus.google.com/+varund7726
white-k said:
Thank you.
I've spent ten minutes trying to figure out which one is the official (or best) version of Resurrection Remix. Can you point me in the right way?
The one in your signature says it has a pirate-icon if you install pirate stuff. And while I may not do that, I still don't like the idea of that.
So which RR would you recommend?
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Both versions have this anti piracy measure I think.
I recommend the unofficial builds since I'm using them ?
It has extra features such as delta updates, signature spoofing support,... and the dev is always available to help and answer our questions.
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Both versions have this anti piracy measure I think.
I recommend the unofficial builds since I'm using them
It has extra features such as delta updates, signature spoofing support,... and the dev is always available to help and answer our questions.
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How many unofficial versions are there ?
SlyUK said:
How many unofficial versions are there ?
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idk...
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idk...
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Fair enough. But you recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...ent/rom-resurrection-remix-5-8-0-oms-t3527344
SlyUK said:
Fair enough. But you recommend this one:
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You could have just flashed the ROM days ago, and have decided yourself; instead of waiting for others to dictate what you will or will not like. And just because someone recommends it, doesn't mean you will even like it.
redpoint73 said:
You could have just flashed the ROM days ago, and have decided yourself; instead of waiting for others to dictate what you will or will not like. And just because someone recommends it, doesn't mean you will even like it.
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Agreed.
Agreed nicesoni ash has the best build in my opinion and the dev is great and very supportive of the rom and it's users. And there are lots of unofficial builds for nicesonis rom but you only need to install the latest one.
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Download https://mega.nz/#!UKYHRKwY!6va1U5-mrWL52W4QUeOiMpLu-MgNL_AnPF96vmm89Bc
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Download Mokee ROM (MK 90.0-nightly-xxxxxx)
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=clover&type=
Download Official Mokee TWRP
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eNjbSsE3igYsvB4QIHjPGOcgV6RKZrnI/view
Download ROM lastest Havoc-OS-vxxxxxxxx-clover-Official
https://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/project/havoc-os/clover/
Flash Official Mokee TWRP
Reboot into new recovery
Flash Mookee ROM
Reboot and setup os.
---> forceencrypt on /data
TWRP (change /data partition from EXT4 to F2FS)
-Wipe--->Advanced Wipe--->select Data Partition---->Repair or change File System--->Change File System--->select F2FS
-wipe all ( Dalvik + Data + Cache + System )
-Settings General= Use rm -rf instread of formatting
Reboot into recovery
Flash Havoc-OS-v2.x-2019xxxx
Since I am running Havoc on my mobile I flashed it right away on my mi pad the moment I got it. Now the rom is running for three days without any bugs and very smooth so far. Thanks :good:
Rom is still running smooth. Got an update notification today. Any changelog available?
Thanks for supporting this device.
I just a bit surprised that so little is going on here within the mi pad forum. ?
Best ROM for mi pad 4 plus?
Droid_1 said:
Rom is still running smooth. Got an update notification today. Any changelog available?
Thanks for supporting this device.
I just a bit surprised that so little is going on here within the mi pad forum. ?
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Hi, I'm really interested in purchasing this tablet (I am a big fan of redmi phones). I was a bit reluctant with the lack of a true global ROM being available and there was nothing on xda last time I checked. But it appears someone has been quite busy developing for this. Have you only tried the havoc ROM? Is everything still running OK for you? If so, I'm thinking I will make the purchase. Any other feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
shaun_prawn said:
Hi, I'm really interested in purchasing this tablet (I am a big fan of redmi phones). I was a bit reluctant with the lack of a true global ROM being available and there was nothing on xda last time I checked. But it appears someone has been quite busy developing for this. Have you only tried the havoc ROM? Is everything still running OK for you? If so, I'm thinking I will make the purchase. Any other feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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In the beginning I had the global Rom running which also was smooth, but since I am using Havoc on all my other devices I switched also on my Mi Pad. The rom runs stable. Had no problems, random reboots or other stuff like that. Rom runs fast and I hope the community for the device will grow, because the device has an awesome price performance ratio! :laugh::good:
Awesome! Thanks!
Droid_1 said:
In the beginning I had the global Rom running which also was smooth, but since I am using Havoc on all my other devices I switched also on my Mi Pad. The rom runs stable. Had no problems, random reboots or other stuff like that. Rom runs fast and I hope the community for the device will grow, because the device has an awesome price performance ratio! :laugh::good:
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Thanks for the quick response. I think I will be purchasing soon, just waiting for a deal on the 128gb version. I can get the 64gb for a decent price atm, so very tempted to grab that instead.
I recently got the redmi note 6 Pro, I have only unlocked bootloader not long ago. Couldn't decide on which ROM to try first, but I have had a couple people recommend the havoc ROM, so I think I will go with that. Then I can have the same on the tablet when I get it.
I really hope to see a bigger community for this tablet too. Thanks again.
shaun_prawn said:
Hi, I'm really interested in purchasing this tablet (I am a big fan of redmi phones). I was a bit reluctant with the lack of a true global ROM being available and there was nothing on xda last time I checked. But it appears someone has been quite busy developing for this. Have you only tried the havoc ROM? Is everything still running OK for you? If so, I'm thinking I will make the purchase. Any other feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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@tom.android
Is there anything special to consider for updating?
Is dirty flashing the rom possible?
Droid_1 said:
@tom.android
Is there anything special to consider for updating?
Is dirty flashing the rom possible?
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Yes you can do (dirty flashing) with no problems.
Hi, as this is my first time flashing anything, I want to be sure I am doing everything right. I have Mi Pad 4 Plus, already unlocked. To use adb and fastboot I need dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip right? Then to flash recovery, I rename the file from your link and do: fastboot.exe flash recovery recovery.img -> fastboot.exe boot recovery.img. Should I also flash new firmware osdn.net/projects/xiaomifirmwareupdater/storage/Stable/V10/clover/? Should I do it like normal ROM flashing using recovery? I was thinking of using Mokee or HavocOS, in case I would prefer to stay with Mokee, your instructions are good, I just do not flash Havoc over Mokee? I am still not decided which one I should install. Also in future if a new version of ROM comes out ,as my partition would be already changed, I would not need to repeat these steps? Also do ''forceencrypt on /data'' means that I should 'encrypt device using screen lock password' in Android OS? I am not quire sure I understand this step. Also where do I exactly 'Settings General= Use rm -rf instead of formatting'? Browsing though old root/flash tutorials I noticed some of them mention tools like: no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0.zip/Universal DM-Verity and ForceEncrypt Disabler/Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt. Are they still needed in any case? I want to flash open gapps and magisk root. Sorry if it seems stupid, I just could not find anything step by step that is actual, some older guides recommend supersu and as I understand it is a thing of a past now.
tom.android said:
Yes you can do (dirty flashing) with no problems.
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Running the rom for months without any bugs ?flashing updates worked flawlessly. @tom.android thanks for the work
Hi everyone.
I have a OnePlus 3T (obviously) running the original, stock, OxygenOS version 9.0.6
I decided to move on to Android 10, using one of the available custom roms.
My question is, what roms do you recommend? in my previous phones, my go-to rom was Cyanogenmod, which I understand has turned to LineageOS. I looked at Lineage but I understood that the android 10 version of it for the oneplus 3t is experimental, so i'd rather something that is "official".
So, which roms do you recommend, and why?
Thanks in advance
Here you have a list of all ANdroid 10 roms for OP3/3T.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...o-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139?nocache=1
Each of them can be described as "stable". The main question is which features you value. I like minimalist and very battery friendly roms. Customizing is not so important for me.
Master_TC said:
Here you have a list of all ANdroid 10 roms for OP3/3T.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...o-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139?nocache=1
Each of them can be described as "stable". The main question is which features you value. I like minimalist and very battery friendly roms. Customizing is not so important for me.
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Thank you!
I remember an old "rule" about roms, and i'm not sure if this is still true, but it's "you can't have them all".
So i'd say I prefer customizing and,like you said, something that is battery friendly. Which rom do you use?
Pingas12 said:
Thank you!
I remember an old "rule" about roms, and i'm not sure if this is still true, but it's "you can't have them all".
So i'd say I prefer customizing and,like you said, something that is battery friendly. Which rom do you use?
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Yes the old rule is still current.
I use Official crDroid 6.3. It has very good battery life, the most needed customizings and is very stable.
Atention. Android Auto don't work any ROM.
Master_TC said:
Yes the old rule is still current.
I use Official crDroid 6.3. It has very good battery life, the most needed customizings and is very stable.
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Ok, i'll check it out. Thanks!
migui7 said:
Atention. Android Auto don't work any ROM.
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Really? I don't use android auto actually, but still it's good to know. Thanks!
What rom do you use?
Pingas12 said:
Ok, i'll check it out. Thanks!
Really? I don't use android auto actually, but still it's good to know. Thanks!
What rom do you use?
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I return to stock Android 9. I wont change ROM until android Auto work on custom ROM of Android 10.
migui7 said:
Atention. Android Auto don't work any ROM.
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Do you know why? Or maybe where I can read more about this? I use android auto continuously and this will be really important for me.
distante said:
Do you know why? Or maybe where I can read more about this? I use android auto continuously and this will be really important for me.
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Already I haven't OP3T, but I was using LOS 17.1 and I could use Android Auto. However, I couldn't use my bank app.
I recomend you that you search and read on others ROMs.
I'd like to revive this thread and extend it to Android 11 ROMs. I see there are five in the list that's linked to in the first answer of this thread. Can anyone recommend one, from personal experience? After a terrible time on Lineage 17.1 this summer, I fell back to the official 9.0.6, and I don't want to go through that again with Android 11.
It's annoying to be coming up on a year without support on my OP3t when I'm running Android 10 with the September 2020 security patch on my 2013 Nexus 5. I bought this phone in 2017 because I thought it would continue to be useful long after OnePlus stopped official support, but it hasn't worked out that way.
Any wisdom out there? I don't want to buy a Pixel 5 and throw the 3t in a drawer.
Hello everyone,
Do you know if for the pixel 7, currently it is possible to have the combination of a custom rom + the stock camera in some way not too complicated?
Thanks, I read you!
danicosas said:
Hello everyone,
Do you know if for the pixel 7, currently it is possible to have the combination of a custom rom + the stock camera in some way not too complicated?
Thanks, I read you!
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U can download stock camera app in Google play
lol
hungragezone said:
U can download stock camera app in Google play
lol
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Oh really? That easy? hahaha
Installing the stock camera of Xiaomi on a Xiaomi phone with custom rom is much more complicated.
And would it be 100% compatible with the custom ROM?
Finally, what custom ROM do you recommend for the pixel 7?
Thank you !
danicosas said:
Oh really? That easy? hahaha
Installing the stock camera of Xiaomi on a Xiaomi phone with custom rom is much more complicated.
And would it be 100% compatible with the custom ROM?
Finally, what custom ROM do you recommend for the pixel 7?
Thank you !
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pixel phone has pure android, most roms are aosp based so same android but with more or less customization or features
danicosas said:
Oh really? That easy? hahaha
Installing the stock camera of Xiaomi on a Xiaomi phone with custom rom is much more complicated.
And would it be 100% compatible with the custom ROM?
Finally, what custom ROM do you recommend for the pixel 7?
Thank you !
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I understand that, I'm Xiaomi user for along time
Almost Any things in stock android of pixel can be downloaded from play store
I only try crdroid with p7, great rom, alot of custom feature, great battery life. But it still has some small bug that affect daily use experience.
So I fall back to stock and wait for crdroid become official for p7 like p7 pro
tutibreaker said:
pixel phone has pure android, most roms are aosp based so same android but with more or less customization or features
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My question is because I have just had 4 Xiaomis in a row.
In all of them, the first thing I did was unlock them and install the Xiaomi.eu rom.
With this rom it had much less bloatware, a little more privacy (services blocked in the background), native call recording, and some more features. All this without sacrificing camera stock.
I thought that with the Pixel you could do something similar with a rom like Lineage or another similar one.
hungragezone said:
I understand that, I'm Xiaomi user for along time
Almost Any things in stock android of pixel can be downloaded from play store
I only try crdroid with p7, great rom, alot of custom feature, great battery life. But it still has some small bug that affect daily use experience.
So I fall back to stock and wait for crdroid become official for p7 like p7 pro
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Ah perfect, this can give me a bit of clues where to go
danicosas said:
My question is because I have just had 4 Xiaomis in a row.
In all of them, the first thing I did was unlock them and install the Xiaomi.eu rom.
With this rom it had much less bloatware, a little more privacy (services blocked in the background), native call recording, and some more features. All this without sacrificing camera stock.
I thought that with the Pixel you could do something similar with a rom like Lineage or another similar one.
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well forget all about the memeui right now, pixel phone is another, bugless and better world
hungragezone said:
U can download stock camera app in Google play
lol
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I don't know about Pixel, but it is not that simple in general. Some apps rely on certain frameworks or modules which are present in the Stock ROM but not in custom ROMs.
TheMystic said:
I don't know about Pixel, but it is not that simple in general. Some apps rely on certain frameworks or modules which are present in the Stock ROM but not in custom ROMs.
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But it's true with pixel !
I finally installed the lineage rom for the p7 and installed the camera app from the play store. everything is going perfectly. Thanks to all for the help !
danicosas said:
I finally installed the lineage rom for the p7 and installed the camera app from the play store. everything is going perfectly. Thanks to all for the help !
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Thanks!
I Plan to do this on m Pixel when I get it soon!
How is the quality?
danicosas said:
I finally installed the lineage rom for the p7 and installed the camera app from the play store. everything is going perfectly. Thanks to all for the help !
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is this then the current cam version? because from other phones of course you just and really old gcam version in gplay.
does it have all the new features like cinema mode etc.?
that would be a surprise to me, if it is almost the same feature level like on stock.