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I don't have the time to constantly be looking for new roms to make my phone run properly. My phone is always freezing up due to the stupid Touchwiz UI and I absolutely hate it. I am sick and tired of my phone freezing up and lagging constantly and having to do factory reset and reinstalling all my apps fresh.
So I was wondering, what can I do to fix this problem in a easier manner? I was thinking about rooting the phone, saving all my app data, unrooting, resetting the phone, rooting again, uninstall bloatware, reinstalling apps with their data, and unrooting.
Here are my concerns though. I want to be able to reset the phone using the orignal factory reset. I don't have time or care to install new roms on my phone as I want to keep my warranty and I want to be able to sell my phone in the future.
So what are my options here? What can I do and what are my steps to start doing them?
I am on AT&T Note 3 with kitkat 4.4.2 with my build number ending in NC2.
Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.
joshlete said:
Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.
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Simple answer is root with towelroot, and when you want to do a complete factory reset, flash stock NC2 using the guide in this thread.
I think your original question about what options you have is a little more complicated...rooting your phone technically voids your warranty, but if you're referring to the KNOX warranty flag then towelroot doesn't trip that flag. Reflashing stock NC2 with Odin will unroot your phone automatically so no worries there either. What I'm getting at is flashing roms isn't going to void your warranty any more than rooting with towelroot will, on the other hand uninstalling system apps can cause lots of problems, so you may find it easier to flash a near-stock rom that has the bloatware already removed.
But if you're set on not flashing anything, then I'd suggest using titanium backup to freeze any apps you don't want instead of uninstalling them. If you uninstall the wrong app you could end up having to do a factory reset anyway just to get your phone working again. Freezing system apps can cause problems too but it's generally easier to unfreeze an app than try and find and reinstall a system apk. And as tempting as it is don't uninstall My Magazine you'll get FC all over the place and your email won't work properly
So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.
The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock
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So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.
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Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.
I'm on the same boat as you OP. When time comes for a new phone, my next phone will never be another Samsung phone again. I will only consider phones that are close to stock. Most likely Motorola X or Sony Z3 Compact or similar.
TouchWiz is so disappointing. It's slow and creates lags even for just checking what time it is.
Fortunately I have some time so unlike OP, I tried debloating stock rom, tried at least 5 custom roms. Most of the custom roms have either too much theme customization (really not my taste) or something else doesn't work (NFC payment or deep sleep or some other thing). And they all claim super duper fast and rock stable, but those are hyperboles. The only time I experienced one rom being faster than the other was with Galaxy S5 port rom, but that was most likely due to the fact that standby mode is disabled because we have no way to update the firmware. In other words, uses more battery but still lasts a day. Also, I never seen the battery last exceptionally longer than the stock rom, so don't trust the super long lasting battery claims.
The easiest way to get your phone run smoothly is to factory reset it, and then only install select apps that you really need and know that it won't be a resource hog reporting your every move.
Oh, and last year's Moto X (dual core) feels faster than a quad core Note3 for everyday task in my hands. I wish we had a google experience rom for n900a.
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The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock
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Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
RErick said:
Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.
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Most useless post of the year goes to......
joshlete said:
Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
Most useless post of the year goes to......
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UR Droid is probably the closest to stock...Knox removed, sd card write permissions fixed, etc. are the only mods...that said carl's made a ton of flashable zips too so if you did want to start making mods yourself chances are you won't have any problems while running his rom
FireKat is one you've probably run across. That is a stock rom all of the mods/optimizations/etc mega makes are from other stock builds. There's no theming or anything like that it's more like "TouchWiz optimized"...again nothing extraneous added if you want to add tethering, call recording, etc you'll have to do it yourself. FireKat is geared towards speed and battery life but it's rock solid with no known issues. All of the rom updates you see are for performance improvements as opposed to the majority of the aosp-hybrid or heavily themed roms where updates are for bug fixes.
Both devs are really helpful and responsive definitely check out their threads though since I'm not up to date with both roms. I have flashed both of them at some point and both are significant improvements over stock...of course no one can tell you what roms you'll like or should flash but I'd be pretty surprised if you have a better experience on stock than either of these roms.
I've been running a stock rooted 4.4.2 for months and it was not laggy at all.
In the application manager settings I turned off all bloatware apps that I did not use. I froze (with titanium backup) all bloatware that could not be turned off in settings and also froze anything that says "knox" in the title. I used xposed installer to install many modules that allowed me to tweak my stock rom... including greenify to auto hibernate apps, smart booster to manage ram, boot manager, and also Wanam xposed for ui customizing...
My phone has run extremely well.
I just made the jump to 4.4.4 and got it rooted (thanks to @muniz_ri and a few others).... exact same setup again... stock rooted... turn off and freeze un-needed apps... xposed modules... and again it is running nice and smooth.
I also use nova launcher prime because it feels more responsive and does more things that I want (like a home screen that will autorotate to landscape mode).
Wow, that's a lot to have for being stock .
The only way to get rid most of your concerns is to root your phone. Then you can delete all other useless apps that you don't need and slow your phone down a bit.
But installing a new Rom is the best way to have a peace in mind I think. Dynamic KitKat is one of the best roms for our phone. I've been using it for months and there is nothing I can say how much I like it. Sometimes I experience lag, but that is to be expected because of Android's ability to do multitasks.
Just my 2 cents.
I finally decided to take advantage of having a Nexus 6 and flash a factory image. I downloaded Wug's NRT and commenced to flashing. I also wanted to disable forced encryption and Wug's NRT has an option to apply this during the flashing process. It appears to go through the process but when the phone boots back up, I'm still on the same build as when I started. What am I doing wrong?
Phone - Nexus 6, bought directly from Motorola
Carrier - Verizon
Toolkit - Wug's NRT 2.0.5
Build - LMY47D
Android version - 5.1
Goal - flash LMY47Z to get to 5.1.1 and no forced encryption
NRT says it can talk to my phone in all modes, has all the files it needs, etc. I've got to be missing something; just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance!
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I finally decided to take advantage of having a Nexus 6 and flash a factory image. I downloaded Wug's NRT and commenced to flashing. I also wanted to disable forced encryption and Wug's NRT has an option to apply this during the flashing process. It appears to go through the process but when the phone boots back up, I'm still on the same build as when I started. What am I doing wrong?
Phone - Nexus 6, bought directly from Motorola
Carrier - Verizon
Toolkit - Wug's NRT 2.0.5
Build - LMY47D
Android version - 5.1
Goal - flash LMY47Z to get to 5.1.1 and no forced encryption
NRT says it can talk to my phone in all modes, has all the files it needs, etc. I've got to be missing something; just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance!
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what are you doing wrong? well thats an easy one, youre a first time flasher, what are you doing using a root toolkit? did you learn anything from it? did you learn how to flash the factory image the right way? no. that's your issue. it takes less than 5 minutes to flash a factory img the right way.
if you know how to do things properly, then its alright to use a toolkit. if you have no idea jow to do things right, a toolkit wont show you how.
Does NRT tell you it was successful? Usually there are quite a lot of messages...
To get a grip on what simms22's taking about, check out the faq thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-frequently-questions-t3106029
Didgeridoohan said:
Does NRT tell you it was successful? Usually there are quite a lot of messages...
To get a grip on what simms22's taking about, check out the faq thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-frequently-questions-t3106029
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right, thats what i was trying to say
Thanks for the replies, guys. I was able to figure it out. I didn't have the bootloader unlocked. I know, noob mistake. I've got LMY47Z and no encryption now. Sure hope this fixes the jank I've been experiencing, which was the whole purpose of this little experiment.
But to answer your question, I used a tool because it automates the commands and makes the experience easier. Yes, I ran into trouble at first but I figured it out. In my defense, I did read that thread before posting that recommended issuing commands rather than using a tool. I was already vested in NRT so I figured I'd see it through.
Guess the joke is on me. Not only did my efforts NOT fix the lag and stutter I'm experiencing, but the internal storage was reported at 32GB rather than 64GB. So I ran through the tool again but this time I chose the "post-flash factory reset" option which wipes the user cache. The storage is now correct, I'm on LMY47Z, and no encryption. I only installed the Google apps and still had the lag.
This is a replacement device from Motorola (first one developed battery issues). I might do that again. At least I figured out what was wrong with the flashing process. Thanks again everyone!
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Guess the joke is on me. Not only did my efforts NOT fix the lag and stutter I'm experiencing, but the internal storage was reported at 32GB rather than 64GB. So I ran through the tool again but this time I chose the "post-flash factory reset" option which wipes the user cache. The storage is now correct, I'm on LMY47Z, and no encryption. I only installed the Google apps and still had the lag.
This is a replacement device from Motorola (first one developed battery issues). I might do that again. At least I figured out what was wrong with the flashing process. Thanks again everyone!
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personally, the way that google sets up the cpu makes me unhappy. it does lag a bit at times. what i always do, and have done with every nexus, is unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and supersu. then when i boot up, i adjust the cpu my own way. only then does any remnant of lag disappear. i set up my cpu to have all cores online all the time(as of 5.1, google did this as well), i disable mpdecision(hate that google sh*t), and i use ondemand/dwadline
Lucky Armpit said:
Guess the joke is on me. Not only did my efforts NOT fix the lag and stutter I'm experiencing, but the internal storage was reported at 32GB rather than 64GB. So I ran through the tool again but this time I chose the "post-flash factory reset" option which wipes the user cache. The storage is now correct, I'm on LMY47Z, and no encryption. I only installed the Google apps and still had the lag.
This is a replacement device from Motorola (first one developed battery issues). I might do that again. At least I figured out what was wrong with the flashing process. Thanks again everyone!
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To fix your storage issue, either factory reset or fastboot format userdata.
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To fix your storage issue, either factory reset or fastboot format userdata.
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or just format the cache.
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personally, the way that google sets up the cpu makes me unhappy. it does lag a bit at times. what i always do, and have done with every nexus, is unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and supersu. then when i boot up, i adjust the cpu my own way. only then does any remnant of lag disappear. i set up my cpu to have all cores online all the time(as of 5.1, google did this as well), i disable mpdecision(hate that google sh*t), and i use ondemand/dwadline
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Well, the joke's on me x 2, actually. There's all around UI lag (which isn't terrible, but it seems that it's worse than my original Nexus 6), with the biggest hesitation in the Messenger app. Reading the reviews of Messenger shows that I am not alone. That was definitely a smack-my-forehead moment as I didn't realize until then is that Messenger is the worst culprit. So I probably could have saved myself a lot of frustration, but it was a good exercise to go through. I know what to do (and what not to do) next time around.
You have some excellent suggestions, thank you very much! As far as the tuning you mentioned (cores, mpdecision), is that achieved with something like Kernel Tuner from the Play Store once I'm rooted?
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To fix your storage issue, either factory reset or fastboot format userdata.
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or just format the cache.
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Sorry, didn't see this until after I replied. I formatted the userdata and that fixed the storage issues. I'm back to 64GB. Thanks!
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Well, the joke's on me x 2, actually. There's all around UI lag (which isn't terrible, but it seems that it's worse than my original Nexus 6), with the biggest hesitation in the Messenger app. Reading the reviews of Messenger shows that I am not alone. That was definitely a smack-my-forehead moment as I didn't realize until then is that Messenger is the worst culprit. So I probably could have saved myself a lot of frustration, but it was a good exercise to go through. I know what to do (and what not to do) next time around.
You have some excellent suggestions, thank you very much! As far as the tuning you mentioned (cores, mpdecision), is that achieved with something like Kernel Tuner from the Play Store once I'm rooted?
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yea, any kernel/cpu control app should do. some have more features, some have less, but it would only matter if the kernel included those features. good luck
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yea, any kernel/cpu control app should do. some have more features, some have less, but it would only matter if the kernel included those features. good luck
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Personally, I think the elementalX kernel tuner is the best. Trickster won't keep all of my settings stick after boot (like disabled mp-decision). When I had the elementalX app that worked great...that was a couple.months ago but when I wiped my phone the app wasn't available anymore lol I think the dev had to remove it from play. That was 4 bucks out the window and no working kernel tuner app... Haha
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Personally, I think the elementalX kernel tuner is the best. Trickster won't keep all of my settings stick after boot (like disabled mp-decision). When I had the elementalX app that worked great...that was a couple.months ago but when I wiped my phone the app wasn't available anymore lol I think the dev had to remove it from play. That was 4 bucks out the window and no working kernel tuner app... Haha
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i still have the old elementalx app, and im still using it as my cpu control app :angel:
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Hello friends...
First, thank you for your efforts. We certainly appreciate them out here (I sure do).
I have a question about this ROM. First some background on my current Nexus 6 setup ...
Recently, I installed a pre-rooted Stock ROM from developer 'danvhd'. The exact version and features are mentioned at the top of this article: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-instal...-1-1-lollipop-lmy47z-firmware-nexus-6-1503624).
So that is my current ROM and configuration: LMY47Z; Stock; Rooted; Unencrypted.
(Q1) If I now update to this LMY48I ROM (provided by 'fhem' - thank you), will I essentially end up with the same configuration as above (i.e.stock, root unencrypted), except that StageFright and other fixes/enhancements will be included? Just double checking.
(Q2) Looking at the instructions provided by 'fhem', it looks like I need to (1) first backup my 'Data & settings', then (2) wipe everything twice, then (3) install this new ROM, and finally, (4) restore my 'Data & settings' from backup. Is this sequence correct? I don't want to lose my application, data and settings. (P.S. I'll be using TWRP for all of this).
Thank you in advance!
nyceyes said:
Hello friends...
First, thank you for your efforts. We certainly appreciate them out here (I sure do).
I have a question about this ROM. First some background on my current Nexus 6 setup ...
Recently, I installed a pre-rooted Stock ROM from developer 'danvhd'. The exact version and features are mentioned at the top of this article: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-instal...-1-1-lollipop-lmy47z-firmware-nexus-6-1503624).
So that is my current ROM and configuration: LMY47Z; Stock; Rooted; Unencrypted.
(Q1) If I now update to this LMY48I ROM (provided by 'fhem' - thank you), will I essentially end up with the same configuration as above (i.e.stock, root unencrypted), except that StageFright and other fixes/enhancements will be included? Just double checking.
(Q2) Looking at the instructions provided by 'fhem', it looks like I need to (1) first backup my 'Data & settings', then (2) wipe everything twice, then (3) install this new ROM, and finally, (4) restore my 'Data & settings' from backup. Is this sequence correct? I don't want to lose my application, data and settings. (P.S. I'll be using TWRP for all of this).
Thank you in advance!
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Sounds like you got it right. I would not restore data until after I updated all the Goolge apps from the play store after your first. FYI. This rom is deodexed not sure what you running now. I would also update your bootloader. I'm currently using 71.11 from M preview MPZ79M. It is backward compatible. Hope this helps let us know how you make out. Good luck.
Thank you! I don't know which bootloader I'm running. I never explicitly updated that and, assuming that the installation of TWRP or my use of Nexus Root Toolkit (NRT) didn't somehow update it in the past, it's probably whatever came with the phone? I'm guessing.
I'll report back my update results. Fingers crossed. XxX. Thanks again.
Hi @fhem... Just to report back that I successfully upgraded my phone to your ROM, using the procedure I outlined above, with a little tweak to allow Google Play and stock apps to update on first boot (per your advice). As you mentioned, that part took a little coaxing (I even had to reboot once), but it eventually updates. After that, I re-entered recovery (again all of this is done via TWRP), and restored my DATA backup. It all worked flawlessly. Now, the little StageFright checker app from our friends at 'Lookout', reports that there is no vulnerability.
My phone works on Sprint (via Ting MVNO), so others can know.
Thank you again very much for this ROM.
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Hi @fhem... Just to report back that I successfully upgraded my phone to your ROM, using the procedure I outlined above, with a little tweak to allow Google Play and stock apps to update on first boot (per your advice). As you mentioned, that part took a little coaxing (I even had to reboot once), but it eventually updates. After that, I re-entered recovery (again all of this is done via TWRP), and restored my DATA backup. It all worked flawlessly. Now, the little StageFright checker app from our friends at 'Lookout', reports that there is no vulnerability.
My phone works on Sprint (via Ting MVNO), so others can know.
Thank you again very much for this ROM.
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Im glad it worked for you. Thanks for letting us know. Enjoy
You're welcome. When I get to a browser, I'll find the little Thanks button and click it. I actually typed all of this on Tapatalk via my upgraded phone. LOL
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You're welcome. When I get to a browser, I'll find the little Thanks button and click it. I actually typed all of this on Tapatalk via my upgraded phone. LOL
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np the thx button is always appreciated ---- enjoy,
Why is data wipe necessary?
Hi, I just downloaded the ROM and installed as described. What I did differently: I did not wipe data. The result seems to be perfectly fine from what I can tell. Is there a reason why data wipe is described as part of the procedure? Might there be something wrong now without me noticing it?
Thanks
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Hi, I just downloaded the ROM and installed as described. What I did differently: I did not wipe data. The result seems to be perfectly fine from what I can tell. Is there a reason why data wipe is described as part of the procedure? Might there be something wrong now without me noticing it?
Thanks
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If all works Ok should be good to go. I always wipe just to eliminate potential issues caused by dirty flash. I personally prefer clean flashes when I'm installing/testing --- easier to chase down problems if you start clean. You should be good no worries.
abseitsderwege said:
Hi, I just downloaded the ROM and installed as described. What I did differently: I did not wipe data. The result seems to be perfectly fine from what I can tell. Is there a reason why data wipe is described as part of the procedure? Might there be something wrong now without me noticing it?
Thanks
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Data wipes are only usually necessary when changing rom bases. As this is stock and you are coming from stock should be no problem. If was coming from like AOSP I would probably wipe data.
Still vulnerability?
Hi, after installing this ROM Stagefright Detector by Zimperium stills reports vulnerability CVE-2015-3864 whereas the lookout mobile security detector reports nothing. What's going on?
Anybody with an idea?
abseitsderwege said:
Hi, after installing this ROM Stagefright Detector by Zimperium stills reports vulnerability CVE-2015-3864 whereas the lookout mobile security detector reports nothing. What's going on?
Anybody with an idea?
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Did you update your Zimperium. Original was borked. 2nd version showed not vulnerable. It is all besides the point as they found a another vulnerable point not patched that won't be out till next security update. Remove the tin foil hat and rest assured no one is currently exploiting the vulnerability and other security measures in Android make most hacks inoperable. Those that are decrypting their devices are putting themselves at more risk than this exploit.
Question... I noticed (after upgrading to this ROM) that Advanced Task killer (or any of the alternatives) can no longer see tasks to kill. Now I don't use it much actually, and I also don't have any auto-kill stuff setup. So it's not a big deal. I simply have it installed only for when it's necessary to kill a non-responsive app (which happens rarely). Anyway, is the nature of this deodexed ROM such that you can't see running tasks in tasks killers? Just curious to understand why I can't see them anymore. No big deal. Thanks.
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Question... I noticed (after upgrading to this ROM) that Advanced Task killer (or any of the alternatives) can no longer see tasks to kill. Now I don't use it much actually, and I also don't have any auto-kill stuff setup. So it's not a big deal. I simply have it installed only for when it's necessary to kill a non-responsive app (which happens rarely). Anyway, is the nature of this deodexed ROM such that you can't see running tasks in tasks killers? Just curious to understand why I can't see them anymore. No big deal. Thanks.
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Those old apps no longer work with latest updates.
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Those old apps no longer work with latest updates.
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Ah, okay. Thank you.
The title pretty much says it all... I want to go back to TouchWiz but still want root, my app data and xposed. How do I go about doing this? Your help is much appreciated!
Those are two completely different operating systems and moving data between them will prove impossible.
you will definitely not get to keep Xposed. your app data might be salvageable with some kind of app like Titanium Backup, but i wouldnt count on it. you can root again once you have installed TouchWiz. very easy.
so, this is part of the process with rooting and flashing new ROMs. i have clean-flashed and completely set up my system at least 400 times over the years. you should really consider a clean flash of whatever TouchWiz ROM you want and set it up from scratch. i really dont know how else you can do it.
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Those are two completely different operating systems and moving data between them will prove impossible.
you will definitely not get to keep Xposed. your app data might be salvageable with some kind of app like Titanium Backup, but i wouldnt count on it. you can root again once you have installed TouchWiz. very easy.
so, this is part of the process with rooting and flashing new ROMs. i have clean-flashed and completely set up my system at least 400 times over the years. you should really consider a clean flash of whatever TouchWiz ROM you want and set it up from scratch. i really dont know how else you can do it.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured most of what you said would apply but allow me to clarify a few things...
If I do a clean install of Touch Wiz and root, will I lose my in-app purchases, game progress, etc?
Is there no way to get xposed on TouchWiz? I thought it was device specific, not ROM specific.
Could you also please direct me to the correct resources for going ahead with the process? I don't want to mess anything up. Thank you!
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured most of what you said would apply but allow me to clarify a few things...
If I do a clean install of Touch Wiz and root, will I lose my in-app purchases, game progress, etc?
Is there no way to get xposed on TouchWiz? I thought it was device specific, not ROM specific.
Could you also please direct me to the correct resources for going ahead with the process? I don't want to mess anything up. Thank you!
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any purchases you have made through the play store will still be valid. in-game purchases will probably depend on the game itself, but i am willing to bet progress and payments are both saved online. i would check with google or other users to verify before taking any action.
i am not sure about game progress, but i would think some of them save progress online so you can play on multiple devices. probably depends on the game, itself.
you can get xposed for touchwiz, but the ROM has to be deodexed. i have had some trouble installing xposed myself on touchwiz, so i usually find a close-to-stock ROM that already has it installed. there was a special version of xposed for touchwiz last time i was looking a couple months ago and i could not get it to work, but i did find a debloated, deodexed stock rom that had it already installed.
before i throw resources at you, are you planning on restoring to stock and then building the ROM the way you want it? or are you going to start with a custom touchwiz ROM and work from there?
I'm not an expert modder by any means (though eager to learn).
Basically, I have had a lot of issues with Cyanogenmod and want to go back to what's intended but I prefer being a power user and having root access and have certain xposed modules I'm really used to. I don't want ANY bloat either. If there is a custom yet STABLE rom for my phone then great! Otherwise I don't mind getting stock, deleting bloat, and installing xposed.
I have no idea what deodexing is...
Thanks again!
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I'm not an expert modder by any means (though eager to learn).
Basically, I have had a lot of issues with Cyanogenmod and want to go back to what's intended but I prefer being a power user and having root access and have certain xposed modules I'm really used to. I don't want ANY bloat either. If there is a custom yet STABLE rom for my phone then great! Otherwise I don't mind getting stock, deleting bloat, and installing xposed.
I have no idea what deodexing is...
Thanks again!
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Another question...
Which cyanogenmod did you install? I know of one stable CM 13 (marshmallow) and one stable CM 12.1 (lollipop). If you're willing to give it another try I'll bet it'll be worth your while. Touchwiz, in and of itself, is bloat and I will probably never encourage it for anyone who actually uses their device.
Either way, I'd be happy to help with suggestions. What do you mostly use your phone for, and what about your experience with it do you care bout most?
Is there 13 for my phone? I've only seen 12.1
I'd love to move on to marshmallow
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Is there 13 for my phone? I've only seen 12.1
I'd love to move on to marshmallow
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-t3336468
Try this one.
Download ROM & gapps and put on root of internal storage
From recovery make a backup, then wipe system, data, cache, dalvik cache
Flash ROM and gapps in recovery
Wipe cache & dalvik cache before booting
Reboot and enjoy
Give the ROM a day or two to "settle in" before passing judgement on it. Might be laggy for a day
WaxysDargle said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-t3336468
Try this one.
Download ROM & gapps and put on root of internal storage
From recovery make a backup, then wipe system, data, cache, dalvik cache
Flash ROM and gapps in recovery
Wipe cache & dalvik cache before booting
Reboot and enjoy
Give the ROM a day or two to "settle in" before passing judgement on it. Might be laggy for a day
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I'll try it out later this weekend and let you know how it went. Thank you!!
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I'll try it out later this weekend and let you know how it went. Thank you!!
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Also if you want S-pen features download "CM Spenadd-on" and "note buddy" and then a good notepad app (I use handraw).
OK, so I've installed it, restored my app data with Titanium and so far I'm impressed. It feels good to go to a stable ROM instead of nightlies...
BIG issue though...
Cell standby shows like 25-30% battery usage. My battery drains a lot and I'm using amplify and greenify... :/
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OK, so I've installed it, restored my app data with Titanium and so far I'm impressed. It feels good to go to a stable ROM instead of nightlies...
BIG issue though...
Cell standby shows like 25-30% battery usage. My battery drains a lot and I'm using amplify and greenify... :/
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That happens to some people. I wouldn't even bother with it.
Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-slimremix-rom-v1-x-t3156059
This is my failsafe ROM. Fastest ROM I've ever used. Battery life is good enough for me. Love it. Only bug I've found is that you have to toggle Bluetooth every once and a while when pairing. Always works.
Hi, I've been using my Moto G Titan (dual-sim) for about 4 years now, mostly with custom rom the whole time (CM 12.1 back then). I upgraded to a Moto G3 TE (and used custom roms from xda here) over a year ago. So then on this phone (titan) I updated the firmware and ROM and passed it on to my wife. I put on Viper OS 7.1.2 on it and initially it was working great. Over time though it increasingly slowed down and clearing the cache and such didn't seem to help (my wife didn't really complain much because she never liked using smart phones anyway and she just thought it *has* to be a poor user experience). I also had my phone (Moto G3 TE) stolen about a month ago, so while I'm waiting to get a new phone my wife and I are sharing this phone (Titan) with two different accounts. Talk about sloooooooooow! So now I realize I REALLY need a different rom. Or is it possible the RAM or something is just old and no longer working right?
I've read on here that many people suggest downgrading to stock lollipop or something like that. Others suggest a custom Marshmallow rom. I honestly don't care too much what I downgrade to as long as the most common apps (gmail, facebook, whatsapp - ones for keeping in touch and getting work done, that sort of thing) are working. Oh, and pinterest, that's the one thing my wife loves. I would like to keep an OS version that allows me to used mixed storage (mixed between adopted/portable) if possible, because that helps me with the low amount of internal memory. But I can give that up if necessary, because above all I want it to be smooth, because this lag is ridiculous! Sometimes a phone call comes in and it's ringing but it takes so long for the screen that shows I can accept/reject the call to pop up that by then the caller has already hung up (like over 10 seconds sometimes)! So yeah, I really want a rom that's responsive again and can do those most basic apps.
My questions is: if I'm on ViperOS 7.1.2 and if lollipop or marshmallow (whether stock or custom) is best - then how do I downgrade to those? I have TWRP and root and all that on here already and I'd love it if I could just do it by TWRP since that'd be the easiest for me. But I'll do whatever I need to as long as I can truly understand the step-by-step directions and not brick this phone. (Since right now it's the ONLY phone my wife and I have to work with until I get a new one in another month or two... and even still I'd like my wife to be able to use this one more easily.) I read somewhere that if I have a newer firmware maybe I can't return directly to an older OS? Any information on how to switch OS without messing up my phone would help a lot!
So, please give me a suggestion as to which OS gives you great responsiveness/speed (doesn't lag you down for phone calls especially, but no lag on any other basic programs would also be great). And regarding the OS you suggest, please tell me what steps I need to take to switch/downgrade to it and/or anything else I need to do to keep it going fast. I found this post, but to be honest, it's just not very clear to me what I'd actually have to *do*: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/opinion-best-rom-experience-t3546088 So if you could give me a clear step-by-step guide (or point me to one or more threads/posts that I'd link the processes together), that'd be SUPER helpful! Thanks in advance for any help any of you can offer!
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Hi, I've been using my Moto G Titan (dual-sim) for about 4 years now, mostly with custom rom the whole time (CM 12.1 back then). I upgraded to a Moto G3 TE (and used custom roms from xda here) over a year ago. So then on this phone (titan) I updated the firmware and ROM and passed it on to my wife. I put on Viper OS 7.1.2 on it and initially it was working great. Over time though it increasingly slowed down and clearing the cache and such didn't seem to help (my wife didn't really complain much because she never liked using smart phones anyway and she just thought it *has* to be a poor user experience). I also had my phone (Moto G3 TE) stolen about a month ago, so while I'm waiting to get a new phone my wife and I are sharing this phone (Titan) with two different accounts. Talk about sloooooooooow! So now I realize I REALLY need a different rom. Or is it possible the RAM or something is just old and no longer working right?
I've read on here that many people suggest downgrading to stock lollipop or something like that. Others suggest a custom Marshmallow rom. I honestly don't care too much what I downgrade to as long as the most common apps (gmail, facebook, whatsapp - ones for keeping in touch and getting work done, that sort of thing) are working. Oh, and pinterest, that's the one thing my wife loves. I would like to keep an OS version that allows me to used mixed storage (mixed between adopted/portable) if possible, because that helps me with the low amount of internal memory. But I can give that up if necessary, because above all I want it to be smooth, because this lag is ridiculous! Sometimes a phone call comes in and it's ringing but it takes so long for the screen that shows I can accept/reject the call to pop up that by then the caller has already hung up (like over 10 seconds sometimes)! So yeah, I really want a rom that's responsive again and can do those most basic apps.
My questions is: if I'm on ViperOS 7.1.2 and if lollipop or marshmallow (whether stock or custom) is best - then how do I downgrade to those? I have TWRP and root and all that on here already and I'd love it if I could just do it by TWRP since that'd be the easiest for me. But I'll do whatever I need to as long as I can truly understand the step-by-step directions and not brick this phone. (Since right now it's the ONLY phone my wife and I have to work with until I get a new one in another month or two... and even still I'd like my wife to be able to use this one more easily.) I read somewhere that if I have a newer firmware maybe I can't return directly to an older OS? Any information on how to switch OS without messing up my phone would help a lot!
So, please give me a suggestion as to which OS gives you great responsiveness/speed (doesn't lag you down for phone calls especially, but no lag on any other basic programs would also be great). And regarding the OS you suggest, please tell me what steps I need to take to switch/downgrade to it and/or anything else I need to do to keep it going fast. I found this post, but to be honest, it's just not very clear to me what I'd actually have to *do*: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/opinion-best-rom-experience-t3546088 So if you could give me a clear step-by-step guide (or point me to one or more threads/posts that I'd link the processes together), that'd be SUPER helpful! Thanks in advance for any help any of you can offer!
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As you are currently running android nougat. I suggest you Cosmic Os 7.1.2 AOSP based.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-cosmic-os-t3576987
I've been using it over more than 2-3 months as my daily driver. It doesn't lag and 300+ RAM is always free with no apps open in background.
Still if you want to downgrade to marshmallow or lollipop, you'll have to do it using a PC or laptop.
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As you are currently running android nougat. I suggest you Cosmic Os 7.1.2 AOSP based.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-cosmic-os-t3576987
I've been using it over more than 2-3 months as my daily driver. It doesn't lag and 300+ RAM is always free with no apps open in background.
Still if you want to downgrade to marshmallow or lollipop, you'll have to do it using a PC or laptop.
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OK, that sounds like a good start! Thanks for your suggestion! I'll wait for a few more responses and info before I decide what route to try first. If I do want to downgrade, what method do I use from PC or laptop? I've used the quickboot/adb shell commands with no trouble before, but only because I've seen step-by-step guides that tell me *what* to put in the adb shell, etc. So, can you help give me a guide on how I'd downgrade or point me to one that has a downgrade that's really fast?
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OK, that sounds like a good start! Thanks for your suggestion! I'll wait for a few more responses and info before I decide what route to try first. If I do want to downgrade, what method do I use from PC or laptop? I've used the quickboot/adb shell commands with no trouble before, but only because I've seen step-by-step guides that tell me *what* to put in the adb shell, etc. So, can you help give me a guide on how I'd downgrade or point me to one that has a downgrade that's really fast?
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I don't recommend downgrading to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they lack RAM management and heat up the phone while gaming plus Ui is not that good. Android Nougat has better RAM management with fluid performance and battery backup is good as well.
Here's Stock Marshmallow TWRP backup thread and it's detailed enough so that you won't brick your phone
Take a Nandroid backup before.
First, what's the model of your Titan and country?
I think it's not a good idea to downgrade to older stock as it might lead to device getting bricked .... luckily I have never faced such as an issue as I always stick to custom ROMs for my Titan ....I request you to look up Titan downgrade brick stories and get a better idea about how to avoid it ....
Also have you tried using Aex 5.6 on your phone with evolution kernel? it used to work brilliantly on mine before I jumped on to renans los 16 pie builds
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I don't recommend downgrading to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they lack RAM management and heat up the phone while gaming plus Ui is not that good. Android Nougat has better RAM management with fluid performance and battery backup is good as well.
Here's Stock Marshmallow TWRP backup thread and it's detailed enough so that you won't brick your phone
Take a Nandroid backup before.
First, what's the model of your Titan and country?
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Thanks for the extra advice. You didn't actually include the link for the thread though. Were you just waiting for my model # (below)? But yes, I'm used to doing the Nandroid backups through TWRP so that's no challenge for me.
It's an XT1068. I bought it from Amazon US but I'm living in Madagascar and have used it here most the time I've had it. It's also worked for me in South Africa and USA though too.
Anyway, I'll appreciate the link to the stock marshmallow twrp backup thread, in case that's the route I decide to go! I won't be doing any gaming on it though (wife's phone) and just need it to work well enough for phone calls, messages, and other important aspects of life. And yeah, I like the newer UI, but if it's too slow, I can't do much with it! So I'll have to think about the other suggestions people have given here and also weigh it in with the possibility of downgrading to marshmallow with that detailed step-by-step so I won't brick my phone.
clockstoper said:
I think it's not a good idea to downgrade to older stock as it might lead to device getting bricked .... luckily I have never faced such as an issue as I always stick to custom ROMs for my Titan ....I request you to look up Titan downgrade brick stories and get a better idea about how to avoid it ....
Also have you tried using Aex 5.6 on your phone with evolution kernel? it used to work brilliantly on mine before I jumped on to renans los 16 pie builds
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Thanks also for your advice. I've never been bricked either, but I don't want to start, especially since we're down to 1 phone in my family right now! If someone can tell me that downgrading is definitely way smoother (as I've seen written on a few threads here, but without detailed instructions on how to do it) and if they say I can do it without bricking, then I might take that route. I haven't tried AEX on this phone, though I was using it on my Moto G3 TE before it got stolen. So yeah, that's a good idea if you say it works great. Can you link to a thread for me? Particularly when you say "with evolution kernel"... in the past I don't think I've tried a different kernel for my rom, I've always just followed step-by-steps for flashing a custom rom and gapps, that sort of thing. So if I have to do an extra step for the evolution kernel, please also tell me how or where to find the thread about it. Thanks again for your help!
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Thanks for the extra advice. You didn't actually include the link for the thread though. Were you just waiting for my model # (below)? But yes, I'm used to doing the Nandroid backups through TWRP so that's no challenge for me.
It's an XT1068. I bought it from Amazon US but I'm living in Madagascar and have used it here most the time I've had it. It's also worked for me in South Africa and USA though too.
Anyway, I'll appreciate the link to the stock marshmallow twrp backup thread, in case that's the route I decide to go! I won't be doing any gaming on it though (wife's phone) and just need it to work well enough for phone calls, messages, and other important aspects of life. And yeah, I like the newer UI, but if it's too slow, I can't do much with it! So I'll have to think about the other suggestions people have given here and also weigh it in with the possibility of downgrading to marshmallow with that detailed step-by-step so I won't brick my phone.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/moto-g-indian-xt1068-marshmellow-6-0-t3313148
The links to Aex and evolution kernel for titan
madagascaradam said:
Thanks also for your advice. I've never been bricked either, but I don't want to start, especially since we're down to 1 phone in my family right now! If someone can tell me that downgrading is definitely way smoother (as I've seen written on a few threads here, but without detailed instructions on how to do it) and if they say I can do it without bricking, then I might take that route. I haven't tried AEX on this phone, though I was using it on my Moto G3 TE before it got stolen. So yeah, that's a good idea if you say it works great. Can you link to a thread for me? Particularly when you say "with evolution kernel"... in the past I don't think I've tried a different kernel for my rom, I've always just followed step-by-steps for flashing a custom rom and gapps, that sort of thing. So if I have to do an extra step for the evolution kernel, please also tell me how or where to find the thread about it. Thanks again for your help!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-8-t3829769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/kernel-evolution-kernel-t3514843
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-8-t3829769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/kernel-evolution-kernel-t3514843
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Thanks a lot! How do I use a different kernel than the one that comes with the ROM? Do I flash/install AEX first and *then* follow those directions for the evolution kernel? Or do I do the kernel first and then AEX? And I'm assuming I download the first kernel download link on that page (the one that says Marshmallow/Nougat Roms and "R10")? Basically, I'd really appreciate it if you'd offer more information on what it means to switch kernels and how to do that? Thanks again for your help!
Download Aex then install it first
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Thanks a lot! How do I use a different kernel than the one that comes with the ROM? Do I flash/install AEX first and *then* follow those directions for the evolution kernel? Or do I do the kernel first and then AEX? And I'm assuming I download the first kernel download link on that page (the one that says Marshmallow/Nougat Roms and "R10")? Basically, I'd really appreciate it if you'd offer more information on what it means to switch kernels and how to do that? Thanks again for your help!
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Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....
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Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....
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Great, thanks for the advice! My weekend is busy but I'm going to give it a go on Monday or Tuesday and let you know how it turns out!
clockstoper said:
Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....
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Hey, so I had a busy week and I'm just now getting to this. Do I still need to flash a superuser image in order to get superuser working on this (like for fx explorer root or those sort of things)? I have this superuser package I used last time I installed the ViperOS (that's super slow that I'm replacing now): SR1-SuperSU-v2.82-SR1-20170608224931.zip Do I still need that? I can't seem to find an updated one on here or maybe it's buried because it's too old. Maybe people don't use SuperSU anymore? Just wondering. Thanks for any help! And I'll let you know how the new image goes later today.
Use magisk it's way better
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Hey, so I had a busy week and I'm just now getting to this. Do I still need to flash a superuser image in order to get superuser working on this (like for fx explorer root or those sort of things)? I have this superuser package I used last time I installed the ViperOS (that's super slow that I'm replacing now): SR1-SuperSU-v2.82-SR1-20170608224931.zip Do I still need that? I can't seem to find an updated one on here or maybe it's buried because it's too old. Maybe people don't use SuperSU anymore? Just wondering. Thanks for any help! And I'll let you know how the new image goes later today.
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Plus it has all the modules ....very useful ....
Link magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
clockstoper said:
Plus it has all the modules ....very useful ....
Link magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
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Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.
Glad it worked out
madagascaradam said:
Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.
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The ROM still has some unimplemented stuff system app remover in extensions
As for modules is use viper4android to tweak sound and
Terminal debloater to remove unwanted system apps via terminal
You need to enable it via developer options ...
And about the theme apps you found in system apps remover ,those are simply the colour overlays the system uses for automatically setting system theme based on wallpaper colour, to manually set theme you can try going into system>display >ui theme and try changing stuff there it has the pre-installed colour schemes .......
You will find the option to change the system fonts there too.....
For weather you need to enable the service by going into weather>service ......
Also to keep things smooth use greenify and greenify all the apps that don't need to run in the background .....enable agressive doze there .....
Also go into settings>extensions>system>app ops side scroll to boot up and take away boot permission from any and every app that you don't use immediately after powering your phone .....it helps speed up the phone a lot .
Go to extentions and general tweaks and turn on disable FC notifications too...
Get sd maid free and do cleanup of system cleaner and corpse finder every month end .....
Go to dialer>three dots >settings then enable proximity speakerphone it very good feature ......
Happy it all worked out for yaa ...
I have a question though ,did you do a full format in twrp ?
I mean the format data option where you need to type yes to proceed . That speed up lag on my phone after I moved from stock so next time you might wanna try that before installing a new ROM....
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madagascaradam said:
Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.
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clockstoper said:
The ROM still has some unimplemented stuff system app remover in extensions
As for modules is use viper4android to tweak sound and
Terminal debloater to remove unwanted system apps via terminal
You need to enable it via developer options ...
And about the theme apps you found in system apps remover ,those are simply the colour overlays the system uses for automatically setting system theme based on wallpaper colour, to manually set theme you can try going into system>display >ui theme and try changing stuff there it has the pre-installed colour schemes .......
You will find the option to change the system fonts there too.....
For weather you need to enable the service by going into weather>service ......
Also to keep things smooth use greenify and greenify all the apps that don't need to run in the background .....enable agressive doze there .....
Also go into settings>extensions>system>app ops side scroll to boot up and take away boot permission from any and every app that you don't use immediately after powering your phone .....it helps speed up the phone a lot .
Go to extentions and general tweaks and turn on disable FC notifications too...
Get sd maid free and do cleanup of system cleaner and corpse finder every month end .....
Go to dialer>three dots >settings then enable proximity speakerphone it very good feature ......
Happy it all worked out for yaa ...
I have a question though ,did you do a full format in twrp ?
I mean the format data option where you need to type yes to proceed . That speed up lag on my phone after I moved from stock so next time you might wanna try that before installing a new ROM....
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Thanks for all the extra advice! A lot of that certainly helped. It was actually slowing down again a bit within a few days, but greenify made an immediately noticeable difference, as well as a few of those other things you mentioned.
The weather thing still isn't working even though I have it enabled. Maybe because I'm in Madagascar and most services don't cover weather here?
I couldn't find the dialer either, so I couldn't get to its settings. I'm interested in what the proximity speakerphone does though.
I didn't do any format where I needed to type "yes" to proceed, but when I did wipe I chose every aspect of the storage and wiped all of it (even the memory card). So maybe that was just a simple delete rather than an actual format. I'll keep this in mind though next time I flash a system from start. Though I had the memory card formatted as mixed storage (gave 10 GB of it to the system ["expanded"] and the rest for normal portable use) and the expanded portion reads funny now in the storage settings - as if it had 128 GB and 118 GB were already used. That's strange, but it doesn't seem to affect anything so I'm not worrying about it.
Dialer is the phone app ..
madagascaradam said:
Thanks for all the extra advice! A lot of that certainly helped. It was actually slowing down again a bit within a few days, but greenify made an immediately noticeable difference, as well as a few of those other things you mentioned.
The weather thing still isn't working even though I have it enabled. Maybe because I'm in Madagascar and most services don't cover weather here?
I couldn't find the dialer either, so I couldn't get to its settings. I'm interested in what the proximity speakerphone does though.
I didn't do any format where I needed to type "yes" to proceed, but when I did wipe I chose every aspect of the storage and wiped all of it (even the memory card). So maybe that was just a simple delete rather than an actual format. I'll keep this in mind though next time I flash a system from start. Though I had the memory card formatted as mixed storage (gave 10 GB of it to the system ["expanded"] and the rest for normal portable use) and the expanded portion reads funny now in the storage settings - as if it had 128 GB and 118 GB were already used. That's strange, but it doesn't seem to affect anything so I'm not worrying about it.
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The dialer app is what you use to call a number typing it ,it is the phone app with the telephone icon ,tap the three dots on the top right side there you will find settings ....
About the weather try changing the weather provider to Yahoo ....might work.. .
Also try getting the universal GMS doze module in magisk it stops Google services from slowing the phone ...
I personally don't use gapps at all, I have yalpstore for my app needs. if Google is not that important for you then maybe in the future you might try ROM without it .....
Hope it helps.....