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I was just wondering with all the talent an experience the developers on this site have. If they could build a program similar to siri on iphone 4 s. Our phones can already do some of what siri can do on the iphone 4s. It would just be nice to see a good developer make it more similar to siri .we can hold down the search button and make a few commands but I would like to be able set appointment by voice and also get a response back when asking about weather etc.
Try downloading Speaktoit Assistant from the Android Market. She's very similar to Siri, you can even name her Siri. She does weather, Google, texting, most of the things Siri does. This is probably your best bet at this point in time.
have you tried iris?
Thanks for the feed back. Im going to give that a try. I don't want to copy the iphone 4s and name it siri I was just wanting something to do the same thing. Hopefully a developer sees this and helps the android fans. Are phones can be greater than any iphone.
Try Eva, I found it to be powerful but I am having trouble with the Bluetooth features. If you have a Bionic and you decide to give Eva a try, could you ping me so I can see if you experience the same bluetooth issues? I use a bluetooth headset where it works perfectly but I have an after market bluetooth product for the car which works perfectly with my Blackberry but not so good with the Bionic. And I have a bluetooth station in my home for my cells phones so the regular phones in the home ring and it too has issues with the Bioinic. I have not been able to figure out if it is a Motorola/Bionic issue, a personal issue with a corrupted file or a developer issue so I would appreciate your reach out to eliminate one of the above.
just read what these people have suggested, there are already many Android spin-offs and alternatives to Siri, the most ironic and one I know of being 'Iris' = 'siri' backwards.... from what I have read and heard the dev's of the app are putting a lot of time and effort into great future improvement in the effectiveness and functionality of said application.
The cool thing about android is you have choice...interesting thing....One of the things the co creator of apple hates about the iphone is Siri:
“I used to ask Siri, ‘What are the five biggest lakes in California?’ and it would come back with the answer. Now it just misses. It gives me real estate listings. I used to ask, ‘What are the prime numbers greater than 87?’ and it would answer. Now instead of getting prime numbers, I get listings for prime rib, or prime real estate.”
anyways
I use 2 different apps:
Voice actions +
Dragon go
Voice action is awesome for doing tasks on your phone like getting weather, adding calendar entries, directions, dictating, etc. you can ask things like "do I need to wear a sweater today" or "am I busy today?"
Dragon Go is awesome for asking all around questions such as "Who played in the movie Money Ball" or "what are the best steak houses with in 5 miles from me" or "how many scales does a fish have"
I have it set so that there is no default so I can hold my magnifying glass and choose based on preference.
Happy androiding
Edit: Please note that these have been available before apple launched Siri, and that Siri was an app for the iPhone before apple bought the company.
Thanks everyone for replying. Iphone don't have s#*% on android with the community it has supporting it.
I have just tested out "Iris" with a few easy questions pertaining to my location. I was quite impressed by the app when it could answer:
1. What is the current population of Cleveland, OH?
2. What is the current temperature of Cleveland, OH?
3. What is the root of 64?
Two questions it could not yet answer:
1. What time is it in California? (It gave me my local time)
2. Where is the nearest grocery store? (It gave me one in Kansas)
All in all it seems to be a very solid app and it's only in alpha.
Just wanted to add that I tried all the top rated app's that we're suggested and found that (speaktoit) works the best . This app is almost flawless. Thanks again for all the responses. With out them I would be envious of iphone 4 s.by the way I used speaktoit to post this for me.
This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Yeah I should be good now!!
Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Familiar with root and such with my n7 which really turned me onto the android world. The screen is a little bigger than the iphone, however the nexus 5 may be worth the wait.
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Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
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I just read an article about this but I can't remember where. Was an apple issue with phone numbers still being associated with imessage
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Turn on Imessge
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Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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1eli said:
Turn on Imessge
Edit; sorry pressed enter too fast on the app
Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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came here to say this. When my gf's mom switched she had the same issues and Apple didn't even want to help her. She kept telling them her msgs won't come through because they are going to imsg and now she has a galaxy. Apple basically told her it's an android phone and blew her off.
When my gf updated I turned imsg off before had and she hasn't had a single issue. May be a PITA but either get apple customer service to turn that feature off in your acct or get an iOS device on wifi and enable/disable it.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I built that system in 2005. Comparing any Android device to any WP7.5, WP8 or ios4+ device in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I build that system in 2005. Comparing any WP7.5, WP8 or ios device to android in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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I agree.
I'm not trying to be a **** but like... that explanation, that issue, that situation won't make my phone any faster. I understand there are reasons for this problem. But the problem is not fixed.
Come to think of it look at Windows Phones man. WP7.5 and 8 are pretty much the most fluid operating systems I've ever tried, regardless of device. You can find low, mid and high end WP devices. And they are all fluid, responsive and don't drop frames or stutter when scrolling vertically. Not always for the super low end models but you get my point. And I've tried the low end ones in the store as well. If there's one thing MS got right in the smartphone world, it's definitely the fluidity. I'm sorry but if MS can do it, Google could do it as well. But let's face it, you know as well as I do that companies won't change unless people stop buying. And most people don't seem to mind the lack of fluidity and if they do they are using iphones.
And another issue is the lack of...quality play store apps - even the popular ones with 10m+ downloads. Because that dev environment is not as restricted as ios, you see a lot of popular apps like the NOTORIOUS Facebook that takes us back to our windows 95 days where smooth scrolling was a rare phenomenon. In fact I can most likely count on one hand, the amount of times in a day that I have scrolled vertically in FB app without any lag/frame drop/stuttering. People want to say that this is not Google's fault. How is it not their fault if they ALLOWED these poorly done ios ports to make it on the Google Play Store by not posing that many restrictions.
You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
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I don't do Facebook anymore, but when I did, I used friendcaster... It was very very smooth and had more features.
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scorpion667 said:
I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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I'm not kidding when I say I really don't notice but that is probably just because I don't care that much. Scrolling animation I do care about, but I just don't really notice that bad of scrolling animation for much. I mean I hate facebook but I don't use that. And chrome just launched recently so I'm actually pretty impressed with its fluidity at this stage in the development.
But for all that stuff I still think it goes back to my original post. I really don't know how many phones are running windows operating system but I don't feel like it is a lot. They also don't get android apps do they? aren't they getting windows base apps so they don't have to deal with all the issues that come with letting people create apps.
To the issue of google not moderating their app's in google play the way apple does. Apple has one or 5 phones with standard hardware. You will see apps that run perfectly on one android phone but not another. I don't believe google would be able to set criteria that would make all android apps work perfectly on all thousand of devices with thousands of different softwares on them. I'm not saying android are better, as much as I'm saying apple has it so easy. Google can't even control all the software phone companies overlay on their android OS or what hardware they use.
Finally, Ill take the bad with good. I prefer an open app market where someone can create something like better battery stats just because they felt like it and not have to jump through a million hoops. Turns out i has become extremely useful. And if the app sucks let it die. Don't use it. Capitalism lol.
But clearly no one can argue that apple products are not smoother and won't always be smoother than android products. Arguments can be made for nexus and other phones that are built purely for the android OS, but the apps being developed are being developed to work on all android products not just stock android Nexus's so they still will get lag from certain things.
Windows phone is different, closer to iOS. Remember Microsoft forces any manufacturer who makes a wp device to use a specific CPU, specific ram, etc. The OS is written for one device configuration, and just the screen tech can change. Same as Apple basically. I remember when all windows phones were forced to use the Qualcomm 1ghz snapdragon which let's the OS be perfectly optimized to the hardware.
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I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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I actually find the inverse to be true. The vast majority of android users I know all started out on iOS, myself included... However few iOS users I know have ever tried Android... Perhaps for a day or two then reverted.
The plane fact is that Google/Android does not control the manufacturers desire for hardware, wherein, both wp and apple have a strict doctrine for hardware specs... Even with Windows phones, many have very similar specs or types of hardware technologies that wp7 are specifically designed for. Look what happened when wp7 launched... Nothing was supported, app wise, from previous os versions... This speaks to how much wp is compartmentalized, even though it appears to have a variety of device choices.
This is the trade off that we Android users accept, a truly vast array of device types, having virtually any pick and combination of hardware we want, with an endless supply of new devices, but this leads to fragmentation... Jb really targeted this issue and has done amazing things to close the software compatibility issues between devices from both ends of the spectrum... And I believe it will only get better with each new android version.
Personally, I'll take a little stutter hear and there ( haven't seen a touch of it with the moto x btw) than be told what hardware and what software I can have...
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Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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iOS suckssss. Its boring. There's no customizability. The hardware is nice though, but android manufacturers are now starting to also make some really nice hardware as well.
Only way I'd take iPhone is if I could flash KitKat on it.
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Nothing would make me want an iPhone. Not now not ever. That thing is insanely pointless, and has crappy software with random bugs. Not even the hardware is good and it costs a fortune.
I'd guess making expensive apps so all the rich and upper middle class people would buy them.. Cause rich people constantly know nothing about technology and populate themselves with iDevices just because they think it's good because it's expensive and popular.
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1) Android
2) redesign
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When google buys apple.
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When google buys apple.
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If that happens, hope they sell beats.
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I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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justinisloco said:
See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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The default app switching is the biggest part keeping me where I belong. I know I switched to am iPhone for a week and it was the worst.
This Whole thread, by the way, is not to convince me to keep my phone. I love this phone, but just was curious what would make you hardcore android fans switch.
Edit -as far as the bloat, its not bloat I'm talking about, I meant specifically the text app
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Hmm, to be honest, an iPhone with 5" screen and widgets/launchers would probably be enough for me to make the switch. Although the OS would still be very "limited" compared to Android, I don't think I would be too bothered about it. It simply just works better and smoother than Android does or will. People can post benchmarks all they want, or videos comparing app opening times which in reality don't mean that much, but the fact is, the overall experience is a lot smoother on iOS. Even Nexus 5 still lags and stutters when scrolling which is pretty amazing considering the hardware that is inside.
Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
In my country where many people are switching to android, they still don't use Hangout. It all depends on the messing service that is used by all and that's WhatsApp here.
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Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
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I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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Well, that's how Google handles the Nexus phones, but that's far more control than they have exerted on manufacturer skinned phones. Samsung already doesn't like that they need to include all of the Google apps (apart from the play store) alongside their own, I think that enforcing that they be the default would cause an issue. Especially with Samsung's market share of Android phones.
what would make me want an iphone...hmm...maybe if it wasnt an iphone...that is all.
They'd have to become fully open source for me to even think about it and even then.. Na shock treatment is the only way. ;P Females tend to prefer iphones more than males i think. At least more females that I know use them vs males who i know and they will NOT switch.. My wife, ex now had to have one so i bought her one when we were together. Wasn't impressed with anything but the camera and now Android is just as good in that department.. Android rules!! \m/ Been with Android since the G1.. I have so much love and respect for open source and the customization of Android blows apple off the map.. We can tweak our devices 100% with root, custom roms, kernels and themes.. Aosp is just too great imo.
There are so many apps im sure you can find something that will get the job done..
A great story buy one cool guy... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgofunq3OE
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justinisloco said:
Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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The ability to obtain root access through means other than exploits that Apple patches as fast as they can. If that were possible, along with some more customization, I might consider it. And a price drop. Way too expensive.
Nothing...ever. Even if it was free. Lol
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Hello all. Had the N6 for a couple of weeks now and love this phone like I loved my last Nexus (the N1).
Only problem I've got is that my progeny like the simplicity of their iOS devices. I work away from home for long periods so I like to message them when possible. I picked up an ipad a couple of years ago for this purpose but really dislike the whole fiasco of keep track of two devices that have completely incompatible OSs.
The wife doesn't want me to set up a Google+ profile for the kids either so I'm looking for a solution that would allow me to message them from my N6 to their imessage accounts...
I found http://imessageonandroid.com/ but I'm leery of the need to side load what I would think should just be on the play store if it's so wonderful. I don't see any justification for side loading on their site either.
Anyone ever used it or know of another solution that I can seek out that doesn't involve the young one's creating more online accounts?
Thanks in advance.
If they have a gmail account you could use hangouts. You don't need to make a G+ to go with it and hangouts seems to be good for most people.
You won't find an iMessage solution. You will need to stick with something else that is cross platform. A few are Hangouts, Telegram, Whatsapp (You might need a telephone # for this one), and plenty of others.
Both my 3 and my 5 year olds, both with iPads, call me through hangouts almost nightly. They haven't grasped the whole messaging feature yet, but I work nights so its how I say goodnight to them sometimes. I'd say hangouts is your best, most full featured option.
My better half also enjoys iOS with her iPhone 6, she, however, hates hangouts and will only download it on her phone if I ask her to for a quick video chat.
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Both my 3 and my 5 year olds, both with iPads, call me through hangouts almost nightly. They haven't grasped the whole messaging feature yet, but I work nights so its how I say goodnight to them sometimes. I'd say hangouts is your best, most full featured option.
My better half also enjoys iOS with her iPhone 6, she, however, hates hangouts and will only download it on her phone if I ask her to for a quick video chat.
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Ditto except my big two use their iPods, my little two use the Nabi Jr and Galaxy Tab 3. My wife with an iPhone 6 won't even download it.
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There's always Skype, kik and other third party messengers available as well.
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Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
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welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
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HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
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HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
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Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
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Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
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crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
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crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
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right??? yeah, i tried a couple jewelry stores, clothing stores, grocery, hardware, tons of places in the mall of america (for a very long time, this was the largest mall on the planet) and it was hit n miss at very best. I eventually found a place that would let me withdraw the cash with a very small penalty. I went to doing that every so often to avoid the hassle LoL
1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
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1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
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Awesome! I changed animations and it indeed improved the performance. Regarding Google Pay, it's good but not perfect. Vivid Navigator looks promising but needs a PC to hide the Navigation Bar, so I'll need to check later at home
Regarding EasyJoin, I am using AirDroid and it seems to work well... For now!
luismix said:
Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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richierich said:
"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...g_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
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Simply great! this tool makes multitasking way more natural!
The only missing piece now is Apple Pay... They have a way better system than Android (you even need to dial your PIN number in the machine to complete the payment, while with Apple that was not needed).
Thanks, man!
Ok, so the passbook thing seems to be implemented into Samsung and Google pay. The similar gestures are coming with one ui 2. For iosish recents download nice lock and task changer off APK mirror
Just checked Vivid Navigation... Simply awesome. It replicates indeed the iPhone gestures and goes even beyond. Great suggestion, man!!