Hi. Was just wondering what other users experiences were with the screen attention function.
I have nothing but praise for the pixel 4xl. Everything works perfectly and even the battery is fine for my use.
The only thing is the screen attention feature. I have it switched to "on" but no matter how long I stare directly at the screen, it will go into standby as if I'd just left it sitting on it's own.
Just curious how others have found this function.
Thanks.
Same here.
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It does not seem to work for me if the phone is lying flat on a surface. It seems to work only if I'm holding the phone up.
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It seems to work fine for me, though it does work differently than Samsung's implementation. Or it feels that way.
Anyways, I have an Xposed module that monitors camera usage and makes it very easy to see what it is doing. For instance, if my timeout is 15 seconds, it opens the camera every 10-11 seconds for less than a second if it sees me looking at it. A couple seconds more if I'm not visible, then the camera closes and the screen dims before turning off. By the time the screen dims, the camera is already off and only touching the screen will prevent it locking. In my hand or on a surface doesn't seem to change anything for me.
Doesn't work very well at all.
for me it often even works really good in my car at the magnetic car mount, even though I'm not really looking on at my phone. also works fine when I use it normally. I set the screen timeout to 2 mins, don't know if that makes a big difference
Screen Attention not working
Restart the phone. It will work fine untill you use camera or any calling app that is using camera. After that Screen Attention feature will not work though the screen attention is on. This seems a bug. Dont know how to report to google.
IqbalKamboj said:
Restart the phone. It will work fine untill you use camera or any calling app that is using camera. After that Screen Attention feature will not work though the screen attention is on. This seems a bug. Dont know how to report to google.
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I don't think this is a widespread problem as I cannot reproduce it. If an app is currently using the camera, Screen Attention cannot and the phone might sleep. As long as the camera is properly not-in-use, Screen Attention works.
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As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
omar302 said:
As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
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I'm guessing that it adjusts the timeout accordingly.
Like if you were to put it down (but face-up) it'll decrease the timeout down to 15 seconds or something like that. Whereas if you're holding the phone normally, it'd be something like one minute.
Probably just smart stay esque feature.
Quick check of camera to see if your looking at the phone. Not like this is a Samsung thing, there are apps in the play store that do this.
Yeah it's screen time out so if you set it for 1 minute the screen will stay on for 1 minute then shut down
Yeah its like smart stay, try waving your hand in front of the phone and not touch the phone, it wont sleep. Dont work very well as sometimes I lie phone down for a sec but as there is no movement it sleeps quickly.
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As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
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Nice. I keep wondering why HTC doesn't advertise some of these features - Samsung keeps touting them but even though HTC has something similar, sometimes better and sometimes not, it isn't mentioned anywhere. They really need to up their marketing efforts.
Nekromantik said:
Yeah its like smart stay, try waving your hand in front of the phone and not touch the phone, it wont sleep. Dont work very well as sometimes I lie phone down for a sec but as there is no movement it sleeps quickly.
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are you sure or are you just trying to get people to wave there hands around like mad men
theres nothing on the web about that its just plain old screen off after how long you set it for:laugh:
jaythenut said:
are you sure or are you just trying to get people to wave there hands around like mad men
theres nothing on the web about that its just plain old screen off after how long you set it for:laugh:
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It is autosleep OR a time. So it's definitely not 1 minute. Will have to try this
I sent the question to HTC & today got this lame answer:
Please note that you can use the sleep mode in order to put the device in standby mode when you are not using the screen for a long time the screen will go in sleep mode " Standby" automatically
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After doing some testing, I have found the following pattern with "Auto sleep":
If the device is held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, you are actually looking at the screen; the display will sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display.
If the device, after use, is put on a table (horizontally), the display will sleep in about 15 seconds.
So it seems that "Auto sleep" uses the gyro sensor, not the Camera.
Sounds similar to Screeble. ...a must-have app IMO.
I think auto sleep uses the camera and the proximity sensor to determine if you're looking at the phone, because for down reason it doesn't work in a completely dark environment like a bedroom at night, even though I was looking at the phone dead on..... It's an interesting feature nonetheless
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Sounds similar to Screeble. ...a must-have app IMO.
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No must-have anymore... with this auto sleep function built in. It's in HTC One X too with the 4.2.2 update.
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ryanaathome said:
I think auto sleep uses the camera and the proximity sensor to determine if you're looking at the phone, because for down reason it doesn't work in a completely dark environment like a bedroom at night, even though I was looking at the phone dead on..... It's an interesting feature nonetheless
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As stated before, it's probably using sensors to increase time-out, not to disable time-out entirely, like smart-stay does, probably using less energy then smart-stay.
webpatrick said:
No must-have anymore... with this auto sleep function built in. It's in HTC One X too with the 4.2.2 update.
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Will give it a try since it is one less app on the phone... I like that I could set up the angle for which it is activated both for portrait and landscape with Screeble. I don't control anything with the sleep function. Also, I get the impression the phone will still shut off at some point...doesn't with Screeble.
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I was intrigued to know the answer myself. Not being able to find the answer, I tried the following on my phone:
I placed the phone horizontally on a table and left it there without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. It took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I placed the phone at an angle (approximately 45 degrees) and left it still without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. Again, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I grabbed the phone and moved it constantly without touching the screen. I keep doing this for over 2 minutes and the screen never timed out. I got bored, so I put the phone down and from that moment, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out. I tried this at different angles and I realized the angle doesn't really matter as long as the phone is in motion.
This made me to conclude the phone uses the the gyroscope when "auto sleep" is selected to determine when to turn off the screen.
I might be wrong but you can try this yourself. I hope it helps!
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I was intrigued to know the answer myself. Not being able to find the answer, I tried the following on my phone:
I placed the phone horizontally on a table and left it there without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. It took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I placed the phone at an angle (approximately 45 degrees) and left it still without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. Again, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I grabbed the phone and moved it constantly without touching the screen. I keep doing this for over 2 minutes and the screen never timed out. I got bored, so I put the phone down and from that moment, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out. I tried this at different angles and I realized the angle doesn't really matter as long as the phone is in motion.
This made me to conclude the phone uses the the gyroscope when "auto sleep" is selected to determine when to turn off the screen.
I might be wrong but you can try this yourself. I hope it helps!
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What rom version are you running? What you explained would explain why the phone does not sleep when I put it down in the car's cupholder, as long as the car is moving the phone would vibrate/shake & hence does not turn off the display. This is with the Android 4.3 updates (leaks & official 3.22 developer edition).
Previously, Android 4.1 & 4.2 roms, if the device was held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, display would sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display. If the device, after use, was put on a table (horizontally), the display would sleep in about 15 seconds.
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What rom version are you running? What you explained would explain why the phone does not sleep when I put it down in the car's cupholder, as long as the car is moving the phone would vibrate/shake & hence does not turn off the display. This is with the Android 4.3 updates (leaks & official 3.22 developer edition).
Previously, Android 4.1 & 4.2 roms, if the device was held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, display would sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display. If the device, after use, was put on a table (horizontally), the display would sleep in about 15 seconds.
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I'm using CleanRom 6 with Android 4.3. Now that you mention it, I realize I hadn't noticed this on 4.1 and 4.2. I use Pandora all the time. I started wondering when my phone would stay up the whole time I was driving. I never had this issue with 4.1 and 4.2. Good to know!
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I'm using CleanRom 6 with Android 4.3. Now that you mention it, I realize I hadn't noticed this on 4.1 and 4.2. I use Pandora all the time. I started wondering when my phone would stay up the whole time I was driving. I never had this issue with 4.1 and 4.2. Good to know!
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Incertcoin (on SVN R111) now has the auto sleep working like before, 1 minute if held upright, or 15 seconds if placed on a table. I think @baadnewz used the "SmartDim.apk" from an older rom that before auto sleep changed .
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Incertcoin (on SVN R111) now has the auto sleep working like before, 1 minute if held upright, or 15 seconds if placed on a table. I think @baadnewz used the "SmartDim.apk" from an older rom that before auto sleep changed .
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yes i used the 4.2.2 base one because i didn't have time to properly debug the current one and fix, but so far using the old one doesn't break anything it just fixes the issue. credits are due to @yxtl he had the issue and stress him enough to make trial and error .
I believe it uses the gyro/motion sensors to adjust the timeout...if I have my HTC One docked in my car with auto sleep enabled, it will never time out the screen, unless I come to a light and stop...but the motion of the car actually on the road is enough to keep it alive.
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I wish HTC provided some kind of documentation for this...
Does anyone else have this issue? It's really driving me crazy to the point where I feel like ditching the Nexus 6. It's not even every call, but it is enough to annoy me. Pull the phone away from my head and the screen wont wake up. All I can do is long hold power to force a reset. It's really annoying. I've tried the proximity fix for 5.1 but it still happens. I can't set "power to end call" because also sometimes the phone doesn't wake the screen when there is an incoming call so I have to press power to wake the screen to see who it is.
Does anyone have any idea how to get around this other than the two solutions above? This has happened on both my devices (Original and RMA) and I just can't take it any more.
I sounds like a faulty proximity sensor. And I've observed intermittent behavior like this on previous phones (but not my N6). You can test this with a number of apps. I've used "Sensor Box for Android", but there are several more. Prox sensor is located near the top LH corner. With the app open and on prox sensor, passing your hand over it should register on the app.
You are so active on this forum that I won't even ask about a screen protector....
The proximity sensor seems to work fine under all tests that I have done. I actually use Tasker to utilise the proximity sensor to set ringer volume based on whether it is activated or not (eg in my pocket, proximity sensor CLOSE, set ringer high).
Its not every call either and multiple Nexus 6 devices have had this issue for me too. Proximity sensor works in every test
That's weird. I've had no issues at all. I assume you have the issue on the stock ROM too.....
I suppose I'll have to test though I don't really want to run stock.
What about disabling Tasker and trying it out.
Happens with or without tasker. It's pretty much always done it since 5.1
There are known issues with the prox being flaky on this device. I just need to find a way to overcome this.
Remember, we need to separate problem solving from the idea of how we want our phone to look and perform. Once you've identified the root cause, you can then decide what steps you want to take to solve it.
*Sigh* Yes I know. But it's so intermittent I won't know if it solves it for a looooong time. It would be quicker to return to stock, sell it and buy something else
I've literally never ran stock on the nexus 6.
Like Camera indicated, I'd try removing the screen protector if you have one and see if it's better.
It's not a protector issue.
Let's assume I've done all the obvious things except flash stock
Edit. I'm going to try and use power button ends call. Just to see of its an active call that causes it.
Hopefully it will happen when I can take a log cat but inise the phone very rarely.
Try this app in the Playstore.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vorlan.screenoncall.free
I had a similar issue where the screen would time out while I was on a call and wouldn't wake when I moved the phone away from my face. I had to hit power button to wake phone and enter pin just to end a call. I make/recieve over 100 calls per day and it was getting old til I found this app. Works perfectly every time.
Thanks but that's not the same issue. Mine will not wake at all. I have to force a reboot to get display
You might give the app a try just to see. It keeps the screen on during a call but the proximity sensor still shuts the screen off unless you are on speaker phone. It may not work, but worth a try to keep your N6!
I've seen the same thing with my N6, display goes black (randomly, not even related to a call) and the only thing I can do is reboot. Haven't wasted any time looking for a solution, 'cause I don't think there is an easy one and there is no way to know if something you try is even going to work! I just reboot and move on.
Just posting to let you know you are not crazy and there is someone else out there with the same problem!!!
I'm not sure what you mean. I've been recommended this app before but I don't like the idea of mybscreen being on.
What do you mean it keeps the screen on but proximity still shuts it off? .
Thanks for confirming
Basically it doesn't let the screen timeout. Proximity sensor still functions like normal.
I would try it and see.
If it helps good, if not no harm. It definitely fixed my issue, even if my issue wasn't exactly what you're experiencing.
Well power button end call didn't help. I don't think it is a proximity sensor issue. Let's hope it happens when I can get a logcat. Unlikely. Maybe a job for tasker.
I had this issue too. I eventually thought it was tied to UV, but then I installed all stock and didnt change anything and it still happened. Maybe a bug in lollipop.
I just picked up an XZ2 for a steal. So far I really like the phone, but one thing has really been nagging me. The lift to wake functionality works pretty well most of the time, but occasionally, it will just stop working completely. It's like the phone goes to sleep and stops recognizing the sensors or something. It doesn't happen after sitting for a long time, either. It actually happens right after I've been using it. Today, the screen timed out and went black and no matter how much I shook the phone, put it in my pocket and took it out, etc., it never worked again until I hit the power button.
Before someone suggests just hitting the power button or fingerprint sensor: You're missing the point. I shouldn't have to. It's bad enough that Sony took tap-to-wake from us and never gave it back. But I expect this feature to work consistently. Really, you should rarely, if ever, have to hit the power button. A similar feature on the iPhone works without fail almost 100% of the time.
I'm just looking to see if anyone else has experienced this. The phone is fresh out of the box, has the latest build (51.1.A.4.225) and was set up manually, not restored from a cloud backup. Has anyone else seen this?
Oh yes, it is one of three really small, miniscule bugs I've got with my XZ2. In my case, the lift to wake only stops working a few times and after I wake the phone manually, it works the way it should work again. But it only happens in those rare times.
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Oh yes, it is one of three really small, miniscule bugs I've got with my XZ2. In my case, the lift to wake only stops working a few times and after I wake the phone manually, it works the way it should work again. But it only happens in those rare times.
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Thanks. Yeah, it's annoying. The inconsistency drives me crazy. It seems to have something to do with the screen timeout.
I wish they would just give us proper tap to wake back.
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This setting doesn't seem to be working for me, and this is one of the biggest features I want enabled. I would think could be a massive battery saver, but also extremely convenient. Reading a long article online, sometimes I'm just staring at the screen, not moving touching the display, and makes so much sense for a Face ID thing to see your eyes focus on the phone to keep it awake. But then I would guess can save battery, as when your done viewing the phone, and put it down, the screen turns off.
Android Q adds support for a Smart Stay-like “Screen Attention” feature
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-smart-stay-screen-attention/
Settings > Display > Screen attention
I enabled this in the settings, then I set my screen time out to 15 seconds, to save battery, but thought this "screen attention" thing will keep the screen on for me, when reading news and stuff , as the face ID thing will scan my eyes keeping the display on. Well it doesn't seem to work, if I just stare at a web page for longer than 15 seconds, the screens turns off.
Huh, wonder if the dwell time is just too short. Samsung's version didn't work well for me with less than 30 seconds.
Works for me. It does say that it uses the front facing camera so maybe it doesn't work in poor lighting.
Screen Attention doesn't seem to work for me? I have my display set to 30 seconds to shut off, but if I read an article on my web browser for 30+ seconds, the screen fades to black and turns off.
I have Motion Sense on, but not everything enabled, but I do have Lift Wake, and Reach to wake, and Tap to wake enabled.
Unless there's some other setting I am missing specifically for Screen Attention to work?
Screen Attention has so far been hit-and-miss for me. It appears to be working most of the time, but I have also had it on when the screen just dims and shuts off as I am reading. No poor lighting issues here. This was observed in daylight.
Works for me without issues... How do you hold your phone. Maybe you need to have a thumb in front of the screen so that soli can see something there?
The feature uses the camera. Mine has worked fine but I'm on 1 minute.
Mine never seem to work besides the first day. It's just easier to set the lock to 1 minute and don't bother with screen attention.
Settings - Display - Screen Attention - enabled
Does this feature even truly work? I have it enabled and I'll be reading a story on a web page and not touch my phone or anything and the screen still fades out and turns off after one minute.
I thought the whole point of this option was the phone will know that you're looking at the screen, and no need to have to slightly tap or move the screen up and down to keep the display from turning off?
It's never seem to work for me I'm a Pixel 4 XL
Zorachus said:
Settings - Display - Screen Attention - enabled
Does this feature even truly work? I have it enabled and I'll be reading a story on a web page and not touch my phone or anything and the screen still fades out and turns off after one minute.
I thought the whole point of this option was the phone will know that you're looking at the screen, and no need to have to slightly tap or move the screen up and down to keep the display from turning off?
It's never seem to work for me I'm a Pixel 4 XL
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There was a thread on this just recently. I read one of the comments that it appears to work when I hand and not on a table. Were you holding your phone?
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To anyone actually having issues with this feature, I have to ask... can your phone's selfie cam see you enough to actually tell there's a face looking at it? If you're barely in-view, it won't be enough as I assume it is using the infrared camera that has a more narrow view. If it can't see you enough, it won't work.
If your timeout is 60s, it will check at seconds 56 through 60; if it can't see you, it dims and turns off if you don't physically touch it. Once it dims, the camera is off and you must touch it to prevent locking.