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Hey Guys!
I need your help to decide which device to buy. I was concidering to buy the Mi5s ("new is always better") but since im waiting for the Black/Gray version of it i got a bit unsecure if its really worth waiting for it since the Mi5 Pro sounds great too and seems to have more development in the forums (at the moment)!
I'm just using the phone for messaging, music, watching videos, and social media apps and it's very important for me that everyhing is smooth and there are no stutters or lag in the daylie use.
I dont take much pictures/videos or play games with it. (So i dont really care if it has OIS or not)
Is there a significant batterytime difference?
Is the ceramic back of the Mi5 Pro easy to break/scratch? (I've seen a bend test with the normal Mi5 and it scares me )
Any other pros and cons?
Thanks guys!
For daily use, both phones are equally smooth, you won't see a difference, I don't think you'll see any even in heavy games. The main difference is looks, fingerprint, camera, and price. Imho you should go with the cheaper one
PS the development is better on the mi5, only because it came out half a year ago.
According to GSMArena review, the audio output on the Mi5s is noisy. In fact, the noise floor is higher than on an old Xperia M2, and there it made listening to quiet music passages unbearable because of the hissing. The performance is also not really higher than that of the Mi5 and battery performance seems to be worse, too. That and the lack of IOS made the Mi5s unattractive for me.
Do not forget MI5S lacks the gorilla glass protection on the front. It has better body strength as it has a metal uni body but no gorilla glass.
Mi5 pro if you want good roms now ...mi5s just lunched with no kerenl sources so it will take time for development for mi5s (if kerenl source releases soon :d )
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the HTC U Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the HTC U Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I just got my black HTC U Ultra and I am loving it so far. Of course I am still in the honeymoon phase with the ultra, so here are my first thoughts:
This is a great phone for people that like phablets and don't want to use phones with different aspect ratios, like the S8 and the LG G6.
The display is amazing and I prefer it to AMOLED displays. The camera is better than the one found in the HTC 10 and the second display is very useful to me. I love how notifications appear in the second display.
Audio quality is excellent and battery life is very good, despite the relatively small battery installed.
The design is great and the black model doesn't show any fingerprints.
The only thing I don't like is that the bottom speaker on the left side is. I would prefer to have it on the bottom right.
Overall I am happy with the Ultra and I don't understand the bad reviews. This device deserves more.
Hi all,
I had my M8 for a little over 3 years and loved it but decided I wanted a new phone and at first was drawn to the Pixel XL but there was something that just didn't feel right about it to me really not sure what it was but it was there. Also I really don't like AMOLED screens despite what the majority seem to feel so that was another thing that drew me to the U Ultra. I manged to get an awesome deal on a 2 day old Black U Ultra although I think I would of still got one even if I had to pay full price to me HTC just build awesome phones and this one doesn't disappoint on build quality either. The screen really is just beautiful and no sign of light bleeding anywhere and I use mine of full brightness nearly all of the time and with very dark based wallpapers to. I am finding the 2nd display to be really useful and a good addition and also don't get all the negative reviews and general hate that so many are giving for this phone. I chose this over any of the other so called flagship phones and have no regrets at all and seriously don't get all the fuss made about only having a Snapdragon 821 as I really think the differences between it and the 835 are going to be so slight as not to not really be worth worrying about. Same goes for the battery size non issue IMO as I'm sure everyone would be complaining about how much heavier the phone would be with a larger battery and the fact it has fast charging sort of negates this issue to IMO plus it easily lasts me a day anyway.
Marc
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I just got my black HTC U Ultra and I am loving it so far. Of course I am still in the honeymoon phase with the ultra, so here are my first thoughts:
This is a great phone for people that like phablets and don't want to use phones with different aspect ratios, like the S8 and the LG G6.
The display is amazing and I prefer it to AMOLED displays. The camera is better than the one found in the HTC 10 and the second display is very useful to me. I love how notifications appear in the second display.
Audio quality is excellent and battery life is very good, despite the relatively small battery installed.
The design is great and the black model doesn't show any fingerprints.
The only thing I don't like is that the bottom speaker on the left side is. I would prefer to have it on the bottom right.
Overall I am happy with the Ultra and I don't understand the bad reviews. This device deserves more.
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I was going to leave a review.. but youve said everything I wanted too.. so.. Yes its awesome and why the hate is beyond me, but you know... strange how everyone bashes the U Ultra for its so-called waste of space... yet funny how no-one bashes the ugly looking Google Pixel / Pixel XL for its huge frame and big "wasted" bezel chins .. or the iPhone for their chins / bezels, sounds childish doesnt it......... thats because it is, but its the fashion
My only complaint is, no not the USB headphones, but that, at this price, HTC didnt include a £1 ( $2 ) USB-C - 3.5 mm adaptor in the box.
Im afraid, at the moment.. HTC and the U Ultra are "in Vogue" to hate on and bash, but no doubt, it'll be Huaweis turn next year
I do love my U Ultra
After 2 months of use, i can say this is one of the best smartphone this year. Im changing phones like socks, the last one was oneplus 3t,and i can say htc u beats him in all parameters. The battery life is better than oneplus 3450 ma battery, the camera at the top only i iPhone 7s beats him(and i had it to) sense is the best android launcher and os ever, the only bad thing is the down bottoms that are to close to the edge and it is hard to get used to it. Overall 9/10 points to htc u ultra!
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Greetings everyone.
I thought I'd share my $.02 with you regarding the Ultra. This past year I've owned a 1+2, a Nexus 6, a 1+3T and now this. I honestly don't get the negative reviews. It's super fast, the built quality is great, the screen is awesome, the battery lasts a day (or about 4,5 sot) which is the same as the 1+3T used to. The second screen is quite useful and I don't give a rat's ass if it was originally seen on an LG. The sound is very good although it could do with stereo speakers while IMHO the Sense UI is light years ahead that of Samsung or LG.
I also bought it for 400 euros which is a bargain considering 1+3Ts are going over here for 470 brand new even at this moment.
My only complaint is that you can't charge and use the headphones at the same time, but what the heck. I'd also like to see more custom ROMs for this great device.
Anyone having second thoughts or being troubled by reviews, don't be mistaken: the U ultra is one hell of a phablet with certain features you won't find elsewhere. Just look for the right price.
I kinda love mine as well. I've never had a HTC before but I am pretty sure this wont be the last one
Hi people
thank you all , your comments was useful , i have question
which is better ? HTC u ultra , j7 pro , mi a1
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Hallo people. I have now Htc u ultra 128GB and i wanna share you pros and cons.
pros:
build quality (without cases)
speakers
cameras
screen colors
speed
fast charge time (15%-100% 1h:30m)
no heating
high Memory storage
cons:
it is so big
battery life is weak for me
htc has no my own Georgian language (but in 8.0 update they say will be)
it is little heavy
i had early time Oneplus 3T and battery life was just amazing. htc u ultra 3000 mAh is so bad if you are a gamer, or using 4G, or often taking pictures and videos. should be 3500 mAh. i am everyday charging my phone. but Oneplus 3T has metal body and it was heating so much, then was lagg
Can anyone share how is the sound quality/loudness through headphones?
Especially loudness.
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Can anyone share how is the sound quality/loudness through headphones?
Especially loudness.
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I'm quite impressed by the quality of the sound through the supplied headphones. Granted, they aren't studio monitors or $300 Sennheiser's, but if you run the app to tune the sound to your ears, they are pretty good. I haven't tried them at full volume, but just to the limit where Android gives you the pop up about loud music. All in all, 4/5.
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I've only had my U Ultra for just over a day, and I'm quite impressed with it. This isn't my first HTC (first was the Amaze 4G), and aside from the disappointing m8 that I had, HTC keeps making underrated flagships. I'm surprised how little fanfare this phone has gotten, despite having the best camera I've used in a smartphone (even using an iPhone 6S for a time). When Oreo does come to us, then this should be an even better phone!
bulletproofdroid said:
I'm quite impressed by the quality of the sound through the supplied headphones. Granted, they aren't studio monitors or $300 Sennheiser's, but if you run the app to tune the sound to your ears, they are pretty good. I haven't tried them at full volume, but just to the limit where Android gives you the pop up about loud music. All in all, 4/5.
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I've only had my U Ultra for just over a day, and I'm quite impressed with it. This isn't my first HTC (first was the Amaze 4G), and aside from the disappointing m8 that I had, HTC keeps making underrated flagships. I'm surprised how little fanfare this phone has gotten, despite having the best camera I've used in a smartphone (even using an iPhone 6S for a time). When Oreo does come to us, then this should be an even better phone!
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You used the stock camera app?
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You used the stock camera app?
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Yes, so far. I've just played around in the settings, and haven't really taken any pics, aside from just playing around. In the next few days, I plan on putting the camera through some rigorous tests. I'm kind of eager to see how shooting in RAW on a phone is...
Hey guys, I owned the pocophone f1 and liked it a lot but since it had a severe touch input issue I had to refund it and stick with my RN3.
The past couple of weeks fixes started to emerge for the touchscreen with lots of positive feedback about them which made pocophone f1 a viable choice again.
But in the meantime, I was looking at the mi8.
Although it's very compelling I have some questions in my mind before I end up getting it or not.
Your answers will help determine which phone I pick in the end.
1) Is the battery of the mi8 enough for day to day usage?
Using my device mainly for browsing and chatting.
2) Is it safe unlocking the bootloader and flashing let's say HavocOS?
I read it had rollback protection and you could screw up your phone, can this happen easily?
3) Is the development good enough? I saw LOS16 is not official which is never a good sign, same for twrp, two kernels available, and 5-6 roms.
The RN3 that I use is from 2016 and has 5 kernels, well over 10 roms, overall good development strength.
Do you think the mi8's development strength will increase over time?
4) Does the stereo speaker mod work on custom roms or in miui only? I really won't stay on miui long no matter what device I have.
If it doesn't work is the single bottom firing speaker loud? Does it have good quality?
5) Is 64gb of storage limiting? The lack of micro sd may force me to get the 128gb version. What about the lack of headphone jack, does that annoy you?
6) Does the device thermal throttle to the point that annoys you?
Is there any mod for that?
Feel free to answer anything you want, and add anything I missed if you see something important not mentioned.
Thanks to anyone involved in this.
I will reply to what I know I can answer to : battery life is absolutely superb and pretty much unbelievable, anywhere from 7 to 9 hours with extra high usage (8 hours screen on time with plenty of browsing, YouTube, messenger, and one of the most battery consuming games imo, fate grand order and on mobile data enabled 100%).
It's easily a one and a half to two days phone for average to high usage and for high usage it's around one day to one day and a quarter / half.
The single speaker is pretty loud and very clear, I enjoy how it sounds.
For me at least I'd say the 128 is the best buy since that's what I got and I couldn't see myself surviving with less but then again I'm a hoarder : I keep all the photos, videos, games, apps and most of the games I have are pretty big too.
And the screen is incredibly gorgeous and a joy to use too
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I will reply to what I know I can answer to : battery life is absolutely superb and pretty much unbelievable, anywhere from 7 to 9 hours with extra high usage (8 hours screen on time with plenty of browsing, YouTube, messenger, and one of the most battery consuming games imo, fate grand order and on mobile data enabled 100%).
It's easily a one and a half to two days phone for average to high usage and for high usage it's around one day to one day and a quarter / half.
The single speaker is pretty loud and very clear, I enjoy how it sounds.
For me at least I'd say the 128 is the best buy since that's what I got and I couldn't see myself surviving with less but then again I'm a hoarder : I keep all the photos, videos, games, apps and most of the games I have are pretty big too.
And the screen is incredibly gorgeous and a joy to use too
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1) Battery life is good enough for a full day without worrying how much you use the phone
2)You'll always have to pay attention, no matter the device you buy. Read carefully and you'll be fine
3)I tried 3 early roms, now I'm back on Miui. They were overall pretty good, ready to be used on daily basis despite being published days before. I would say that you'll have good alternatives to Miui.
4)Don't know, I'm satisfied with the speaker, but I hardly use it to listen music. It's enough for me to listen audiobooks when I'm under the shower tough, and it's way better than my 24 inch philips monitor speakers. Btw the bluetooth is dope and super stable, I can go around the house with my bluetooth earphones while the phone is charging in my room. I think it's relevant if you're interested in music quality.
5)I went for 128GB. Better safe than sorry. It's not something you can fix later.
6)The phone is cold even when I play for a long time, and even if is charging. I may have read somewhere that after multiple benchmark tests one after the other the scores may go down, but it's an unrealistic scenario in normal usage.
Agorina, if you are a flashaholic, then the clear choice is the Pocophone. Having to wait 15-30 days to unlock the bootloader was a torture (Luckily i flashed Global Dev Rom in the meanwile and it was a night and day difference on many aspects).
Coming from an S8, i couldn't imagine my self going back to an IPS display.
Headphone jack is not an issue, the type c to 3.5mm is always attached on my earphones, so it doesn't really bother me.
I personally have the 64GB and untill now i am satisfied (totally depentant on your personal needs).
I haven't noticed a thermal throttle, but i only play light games (no PUBG).
i am currently on a custom ROM (Havoc OS), custom kernel (Sphinx btw made from a fellow Greek dev) and have dual speaker mod running.
Long story short : If you base your selection solely on the rom and general tweak availability then the Poco is a clear winner. Also, if you are tight on your budget, then the Poco is a good pick.
In any other case, i think Mi 8 is the winner.
Now we're really making progress.
Thanks guys, I really appreciated your comments!
This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.
Three months is a long time. I was getting impatient and got it after 30 days. I'll say I agree with the speaker being easy to cover, that being said you can just turn the phone upside down.
1) just turn device upside down.
2) weird thing indeed
3) pretty okay for the price, not best display ever, but not uncomfortable to me..
4)there's a choice here, if you make it too wide, you make it hard to use with a single hand...
5) pretty great here, I don't know what you call "medium use", but here I'm getting all day long (lasting around 25% in the end of it) with 7 hours of screen on... I consider it as hard use. It is not great compared to what, exactly?
6)never used it, can't opine...
7)I used to be a vanilla guy, miui stock is just awful for me. But, xiaomi.eu rom is pretty great, I believe you could give it a try. It is just what miui should be...
Cheers
I wasn't pleased too when i went from Galaxy s8 to one plus 5t about the display but you will get used to it believe me , it's a good display you will not notice any pixel after some time , almost every phone nowadays comes in FHD+ except high end Samsung , besides it's 6'4 inch it's really big
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And you're completely wrong about the battery life maybe you have a faulty unit because the battery is amazing I'm getting 7 to 9 SOT
In my opinion:
1) Agree with you, but although I always (almost) use headphones it doesnt bother me. But, you can flip the phone to avoid this scenario...
2) Never noticed.
3) It is really not an ultra sharp display, but it is far from S3, which was ~300ppi, K20 is ~400ppi. Amoled pentile will hardly give an sharp display on FHD+ displays.
4) You are a long time whitout upgrading, thin phones are a trend since 2018. Last decent 16:9 phone was Huawei Mate 10.
5) Luckily you didnt buy other phones as this one have a great battery life on today standards.
6) It is necessary some time to get used and increase accuracy on gestures.
7) Having had mainly Samsungs, LGs, Motos, Huaweis and Xiaomis, I think MIUI is on par with EMUI (Huawei) and better than Samsung/LG/Moto.
Edit: Item 5. According to GSMArena, battery on K20 stands ~45% longer than Note5 for video playback. ~15% more for talking time, and ~25% more for browsing.
I don't know if the K20 Pro is different from the Mi 9T Pro but i can't agree on the unsharp display. Maybe with a magnifying glass but it is as sharp as any other phone i had before including my P30. Same for the battery life, i can easily hit 10 hours SOT in a day without having to charge it. Tried gestures, works well for me. The thin display isn't as good for videos, yes but overall it's quite nice to use/ handle. Also i'm okay with MIUI. It looks pretty nice and got some good customization options and it's certainly better than EMUI. But i can agree on it being a bit weird to use if you're used to stock Android.
Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?
Turbine1991 said:
This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.
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hmmm no way its comparable , fyi i still have mine retired S3 , a sammy user since galaxy S , size wise k20 pro its pretty standard , note series i is always consider a bigger size phone , similar one perhaps might be mi max ? battery seem good so far , sorry but older sammy phones model, battery life always fail me , gestures , never use , maybe i am old school , miui does take a while to get used to , just throw in a poco launcher ,never like miui messy home screen , and the price you paid for a sd855 , not sure what country you are from , a samsung comes with exynos chipset most of the time , cant expect top quality hardware in all aspect ?
1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant
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1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant
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+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.
I gotta say that I think the battery life is absolutely insane (I came from a jailbroken iPhone X, but had tons of Xiaomis etc before). I charge it every evening but sometimes I just dont, because I got 60+ % and it jsut doesnt feel right.
I use the MIUI 11 ROM from xiaomi.eu, and I really loved MIUI since MIUI 6/7. I enjoyed some extra features(really great dark mode, always on display, dual apps, ...) and the visual look of it. As far as I know there are already quite a lot of roms with stock android for the phone.
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+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.
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You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.
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You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.
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My main issues are
Data Harvesting - on a worse scale than Google
Ads - which are convoluted to turn off, though it's supposed to be easier in MIUI 11
Bloatware - There is an immense amount of bloat, most of which cannot be removed. Compare the running services of a freshly booted phone running MIUI with, say, an AOSP ROM and see the vast increase MIUI is running, the majority if which you have no idea what or why.
It was developed to be, and still is to some degree, an iOS clone.
There were others and if I were to revert back to MIUI I'd remember what they were.
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Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?
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Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.
The screen doesn't seem pixelated to me. Perhaps you're used to higher resolution displays. I've upgraded from the OnePlus 5 and haven't seen a reduction in image quality.
Gestures work fine for me. I didn't need an adjustment period, they were pretty intuitive and back works pretty much every time (with no accidental back swipes), while recents works like 9/10 times.
I don't have a problem with covering the speaker. When watching YouTube I grip the phone by the middle section with one hand, I don't hold it with both hands like when you play games.
Battery life isn't extraordinary, but it's decent compared to my OnePlus 5.
You can debloat most MIUI ROMs using the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool.
Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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xiaomi.eu is the way to go
Okay, real talk
point 5 is straight up trolling?
I have to charge mine like once in 2 days and you're talking about not great battery life - what the hell
A full charge gets me like 11 sometimes even 12 hours SoT with medium/normal usage (youtube, spotify, browsing, mails etc. - basically everything except games).
Do you game all day long or what?
what battery life do you expect anyway? Theres not many devices which can even last that long as the K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro does (with somewhat similar pefomance obviously)
NZ Razer said:
Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.
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OP must have a defective unit (battery, display). There is no way the display is 'poor' quality, compared to my 6T its much sharper and vivid. Battery life is also one of the best I have seen (less than 2% discharge overnight) I have been playing games on Dolphin, PPSSPP, etc and a full charge can easily last 4+ hours, and that's using emulators which are extreme battery hogs. Xiaomi have been pretty transparent about how and when they collect our data by giving us optout options nearly everywhere, which is something I cant say about other shady companies out there who are in the same line of business. Besides, data harvesting and adds can easily be tackled by debloating/flashing EU rom, where the 1st done doesn't even need root.
Finally coming from OOS the MIUI can be a pain to use but now I am beginning to like the features that it offers, for example, full-screen mode and gestures which I never thought would make my life so much easier. All in all this phone has been a wonderful upgrade for me and I couldn't be any happier.
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Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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whats weird is many of mine country already gotten android 10 update , i didnt received any
I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
prakharayush31 said:
I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
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Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
bilal.fanatic said:
Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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Robbo.5000 said:
First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
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yes dude I agree with you K30 Pro came with reasonably small price increase, but it's not available in India. If it was launched here I would definitely go for K30 Pro, that is why I was considering this K20 Pro. Well thanks for the help bro I got my answer. Going to get this phone on upcoming sales with exchange and bank offers.
bilal.fanatic said:
Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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yeah 6.4 is sufficient for me, and now I have decided, I am gonna buy this phone in exchange of my very old Moto G turbo. Thanks a lot bro for giving advice about this device
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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worth considering you points bro that you told, but I think it's gonna a huge upgrade for me as I will be switching from my Samsung Galaxy S7. May be screen quality will not be that good compared to samsung, but I currently I use my device on 720p to reduce battery drain.:good:
bro can you tell how are the pictures captured with google camera mod is? (compared to stock camera)
mauam said:
Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
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thanks for the help bro.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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What you are talking about are phones from 2025. The K20P/Mi 9T Pro is an amazing phone. The screen is actually quite large, but not oversized (the phone's dimensions are about as equal to the OnePlus 3). The bezels are thin enough to not be annoying, but not too thin for you to accidentally press the screen while holding it (looking at you, Samsung phones with edge display. Even though there's a rejection algorithm in place to solve this).
The battery life is decent with 4Ah, but we already see that the next-gen phones have a capacity of 4.5Ah to 5Ah. 4Ah is still enough to last a day, the problem I face with MIUI is that idle drain is a lot.
The 1080x2340 screen is pretty good, especially in terms of PPI (I mean, you shouldn't complain if you compare this to your desktop monitor, laptop, or television). Color space is also pretty good with D3 color space when you use the "warm" preset.
The main rear camera is superior (IMX586) and gcam modders are busy with unlocking the full potential of the sensor by modifying the driver.
The only thing you are correct about is the support from Xiaomi (or should I say, Xiaomeme), with not only lack of updates, but lack of security updates. The latest MIUI 12 EEA v12.0.2.0 rom came with a 1-month outdated security patch. It's a shame to see that they simply don't care about their flagship phones, or they have too many devices and rom variants to maintain, so they rather focus on the China beta roms and push completed changes over to stable Global, EEA, CN, RU and IN.
If you have no issues with MIUI (MIUI 12 is actually pretty good, I prefer it over stock android, because of the split notifications), I'd suggest staying on it till Xiaomi decides to end the support and then switch to a custom rom.
Go for it, good phone overall no notch and cheap.