10bit or 8bit display - Sony Xperia 1 II Questions & Answers

hi guys I'm thinking of upgrading from my note 10 plus just a question is the display 10bit like some are saying as ive been on the sony website and its saying the same as it did for the xperia 1from last year 10bit 8bit with 2bit software or something
Just asking as the oneplus 8pro is supposedly 10bit in total
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I don't know, but 4k HDR looks absolutely amazing!

It will be 10bit as it supports bt2020 and over billion colours.
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brockyneo said:
hi guys I'm thinking of upgrading from my note 10 plus just a question is the display 10bit like some are saying as ive been on the sony website and its saying the same as it did for the xperia 1from last year 10bit 8bit with 2bit software or something
Just asking as the oneplus 8pro is supposedly 10bit in total
Thanks
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It is 8+2 bit just like oneplus.

It's really an 8bit display,

I also switched from Note 10 plus to this phone and love it so far! Screen is so crisp and colors are dead accurate in pro mode

Sony adverts it as a 10bit Display (8+2). And yes, the screen is the best part of this device.

Same as last year. It's 8bit with smoothing. It's not like 10bit. It's more like an in between.

So does the phone actually support 1 billion colors or is it like a 16m display?
Really tempted to trade in my note 10 plus for it bit I've also heard that the cameras arnt all that good either ?

Also another question does the display get bright when viewing hdr as ive heard that sony turned down the brightness of the display from the xperia 1 which I thought it wasn't bright enough then
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brockyneo said:
So does the phone actually support 1 billion colors or is it like a 16m display?
Really tempted to trade in my note 10 plus for it bit I've also heard that the cameras arnt all that good either
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Keep the note 10+.
The Xperia is still lacking in alot of areas, battery, display brightness, fixed front camera, little things like that don't add up to $1200.
When it drops to around $800-US then it'll be closer to it's worth.
It's just not worth it, no matter how beautiful it is when the experience is worse.

coilbio said:
Keep the note 10+.
The Xperia is still lacking in alot of areas, battery, display brightness, fixed front camera, little things like that don't add up to $1200.
When it drops to around $800-US then it'll be closer to it's worth.
It's just not worth it, no matter how beautiful it is when the experience is worse.
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Ya I'm debating to stick with the note 10 or it was xperia 1 ll or one plus 8 pro or even the iphone 11 pro max ?

brockyneo said:
Ya I'm debating to stick with the note 10 or it was xperia 1 ll or one plus 8 pro or even the iphone 11 pro max [emoji38]
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I come from Note 10 plus and not looking back. Vanilla Android UI is much nicer than One UI. i also missed flat screen. Camera is for sure better on 1 ii if you think when you take photos. I did side by side comparison of front camera and it's comparable to Note 10. At the end of the day, 1 ii is not for Instagram kind of folks other than this, superb phone
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Well I've ordered it through o2 UK so have 14 days to see if I like it over my note 10 plus :good:
How you finding the display and speakers over your note @mehdi_s82

Well got bothy note 10 plus and xperia and playing some hdr via YouTube and considering people saying the xperia display is dim its getting as bright as my note 10 when playing hdr videos

brockyneo said:
Well I've ordered it through o2 UK so have 14 days to see if I like it over my note 10 plus :good:
How you finding the display and speakers over your note @mehdi_s82
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Have had no problem with the display outdoor at all. It doesn't match super bright note when sunlight hits it but def as bright as OnePlus 8 and way brighter than Pixel. So whoever says its "dim" doesn't have enough data points to compare. Speakers are more clear and sound louder to me since front firing. Overall, so happy that I have a flagship with flat screen. Had Pixel in the past but they always had hardware issues and crappy display.

Thanks just another question the 10 bit display does it work all the time in both standard and creator mode or is it just in creator mode?
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Hi guys does the creator mode need to be selected for the 10 bit color or is it walkways active?
Only asking as I normally have it on standered but will change it if so
Thanks

brockyneo said:
sony Xperia 1 native 8bit support & Rec.2020 full colour space not cover.
But sony upscaled 10bit by x1 chip amazing (hardware smooting)
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Galaxy note 7 12mp camera ??

Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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jasamaha8 said:
The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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See , I figured it had to be something like that . I couldnt imagine theyd be putting a worse camera in a freakin damn near 900 phone.
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Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
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High mega pixels are over rated, for one. Simply not necessary. Just a selling ploy from way back. "Bigger/more is better" Not!
No one prints these out, so simply viewing them on the phone or pc does not require such a HUGE image file. And if you did print them out, at 16MP, they should be poster size. LOL. Many users don't understand this, so they fill their SD cards up quickly with these huge image files and need more SD cards, and larger hard drives. I've wondered for years when the madness would end.
I turn my settings to midway at best. Usually lower, unless I plan to print.
I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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16:9 is cropped 4:3 when it comes to photography.
Yea them sony phones have 21 mega pixel and they suck.. the note 7 has same camera as s7 which is the best camera phone u can buy, the apature is higher therfore no need for more than 12mp, note 4 has 1.3 or 1.4 lens apature I think. Note 7 is 1.7 aperture dual pixel auto focus.. but I don't take a lot of pics, I'm disappointed in the processor.. it's just a s7 with an spend and dual edge screen.. should of had 6gb ram too! BOO!
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This thread does not belong here. It belongs in the Note 7 forum not the Note 4!
This has nothing to do with the note 4 other than you are comparing it to the note 4.
TL;DR Incorrect forum.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-note-7/help
Moved to T-mo Note 7 forum as it compares against Note 4.
From the specs, the resolution of Note 7 camera is lower, but the performance of the camera has improved. Galaxy Note 7 used the same camera sensor as Galaxy S7 edge, and just optimize the camera app operation.
And an FYI, although it is 12 MP, it is also dual pixel so it will get better low light and about double pixels (think 24 mp)
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I had the S7 Edge for a few weeks and the camera is better than the Note 5 I have. The big difference is in low light settings and that is where you really see the difference. The one thing I did not like as much was the aspect ratio. It just doesn't seem right to take the pictures full screen but when viewing them they are not full screen. That is the only thing that I wish was different with the camera but now we just have to crop the pics to use them as backgrounds on widescreen devices. I would rather have the better picture quality over aspect ratio but it would have been nice if we could have had both.
More pixels doesnt equal better photos. For years iphone out shot tons of android phone with 12 and 16 mp and never had to break 8mp to do it
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samsung knows that there doing.
I had the note 3, note 4 edge and s7 edge. The s7 edge has the best camera and the note 7 is suppose to use the same camera.
So there is no doubt that the note 7 camera will be better then the note 4.
and more pixels dont always mean a better picture.
I learn this long time ago. I had big megapixel camera that took flat wash out photos. While my lower pixel cameras took way better photos.
My wife just bought a Sony Camera for $200. The point is its 22MPs...The Note 4 takes better pics and is less and the Note 7 is less than that ans takes even better. ... there's a lot more variables than the number of megapixels
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taken from my 12mp S7 camera
Is there any zoom feature on the Note 7? I've looked at all the you tube videos and haven't been able to find anything.

Thinking of moving from note 8 to p20 pro

I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....
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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
vandal4e said:
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.
Jonathan-H said:
I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery
What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/horrible-touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567
It's this
I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups
I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?
Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..
You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.
i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally

Note 9 The Best

It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.
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It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.
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Yea it is amazing except charging speed not great at all
And camera at night not great like my old p20 pro
But overall note 9 is impressive
For the price I disagree. It's a nice phone my first note but I should have waited for the s10. I only got it for the bogo deal which is actually a rip off with Verizon since I have the old unlimited plan. End up paying 55 a month for the second phone and will end up paying it off soon cuz that will end up costing more if I don't. The 5G S10 looks enticing and might end up upgrading lol
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meesagandu said:
It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.
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Agreed. With the new s10 not having a headphone jack, I don't think I'll be interested in it at all.
Yes P20 pro is better
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Yea it is amazing except charging speed not great at all
And camera at night not great like my old p20 pro
But overall note 9 is impressive
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Yes I agree that P20 pro has better camera compare to Note9.
But P20 pro is a device which is mainly designed for camera
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Yes I agree that P20 pro has better camera compare to Note9.
But P20 pro is a device which is mainly designed for camera
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Yep, also I cannot do a notch screen on my phone. I hate it. I had an LG V10 a while back and that was as far as I was willing to go with a non rectangular screen. I actually really liked the build of that phone.
note 9 is one of these devices that will never happen again in a long time period. but SAMSUNG is at that point where u expect everything so no one appreciate anything. and this is coming from a note9 / oneplus 6 red user and i love using both, so not a fanboy here
software wise, they talk about vanilla android experience with pixels or half a second faster with oneplus or iphones, in the same time i cant see any of these phones have multi window support (i mean real multitasking not 2 apps opened in the same time) for apps ! none have 2 apps in 2 windows running at the same time, none can run 2 Bluetooth devices out of the box, none have the magnificent gallery or edge shortcuts or other samsung addons.
also for the camera:
one of the best hands down, and yes huawei and pixel are better for photos "on auto" but note9 has 4k 60 fps, better sound recording, and unmatched multiple super slow motion recording
now screen wise, hands down the best. design, is awesome notch-less design, battery is great, headphone jack, ip68, dual speakers, DEX and VR and 360 cam and other accessories.
oh and lately i read and hear oh huawei or oneplus is so generous with in box accessories! i mean really ? they have usb2 to usb c dongle or OTG dongle or AKG headphones or quality case u can actually use in the box ??
but again, samsung is doing this for a long time, no one expect less.
I actually came from a pixel 3xl. Lovely phone, good battery and the camera was just insane.
Swapped for my note 9, and I don't regret it at all. It's better phone, the battery is ridiculous - on 4hr sot at 50% - and it's just fun to use without being boring. The camera is good but just no way near the pixel, however the Bluetooth pen and taking photos from afar makes up for it with my daughter!
Saw this yesterday:
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-the-best-displays-924708/
Nice share
galaxys said:
Saw this yesterday:
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-the-best-displays-924708/
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Android authority after testing a lot of devices even they agree that Note 9 has the best Display.
Note 9 the best
I'm so happy I picked up s note 9. I had reservations because the note 10 but now seeing s10 Is going with camera hole in the display that's off the table for me until they can hide it. Imagine if TVs had that hahaha
I just got a Note 9. The first Note I had since original Note. I have used all the Nexus/Pixel devices through the years as my daily driver. I did try a S3 for awhile but couldn't get over all the bloatware. After using the Nexus 6P for 2 years I switched to the Pixel XL 2. What a nightmare that phone was. Between the hardware issues and new bugs with each update I got rid of it for a S9+ What a nice peice of hardware. A couple of weeks ago I had a choice between Pixel XL 3 or iPhone Xs Max. I went with the Max. Couldn't get use to iOS and the Max made me want a bigger screen so I ended up with the Note 9.
What a terrific device. I love Ubuntu on Dex and found a few features of the S Pen to be handy too.
I no longer care about fast buggy updates and quality means everything to me now. I'm
My problems with more 9 are
Camera is average
Battery is not great at night and shutter speed is bad
Fast charging is a joke
Sound form headphone Jack is ugly besides my old nex s
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note 9 is one of these devices that will never happen again in a long time period. But samsung is at that point where u expect everything so no one appreciate anything. And this is coming from a note9 / oneplus 6 red user and i love using both, so not a fanboy here
software wise, they talk about vanilla android experience with pixels or half a second faster with oneplus or iphones, in the same time i cant see any of these phones have multi window support (i mean real multitasking not 2 apps opened in the same time) for apps ! None have 2 apps in 2 windows running at the same time, none can run 2 bluetooth devices out of the box, none have the magnificent gallery or edge shortcuts or other samsung addons.
Also for the camera:
One of the best hands down, and yes huawei and pixel are better for photos "on auto" but note9 has 4k 60 fps, better sound recording, and unmatched multiple super slow motion recording
now screen wise, hands down the best. Design, is awesome notch-less design, battery is great, headphone jack, ip68, dual speakers, dex and vr and 360 cam and other accessories.
Oh and lately i read and hear oh huawei or oneplus is so generous with in box accessories! I mean really ? They have usb2 to usb c dongle or otg dongle or akg headphones or quality case u can actually use in the box ??
But again, samsung is doing this for a long time, no one expect less.
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Note 9
In my opinion, the Note series has always been the best phone on the market for the given period.
I'm new to this Note 9 960f/DS and it is a Beauty and Beast! Luv it...
yungzoe0624 said:
For the price I disagree. It's a nice phone my first note but I should have waited for the s10.
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The same can be said for just about every single phone and its eventual successor.
The Note 9 is the last of its breed - big screen, big battery, no notch, headphone jack, good camera.
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I actually came from a pixel 3xl. Lovely phone, good battery and the camera was just insane.
Swapped for my note 9, and I don't regret it at all. It's better phone, the battery is ridiculous - on 4hr sot at 50% - and it's just fun to use without being boring. The camera is good but just no way near the pixel, however the Bluetooth pen and taking photos from afar makes up for it with my daughter!
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It means that Note 9 is a device which you love the most..
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Sisyphus306 said:
The same can be said for just about every single phone and its eventual successor.
The Note 9 is the last of its breed - big screen, big battery, no notch, headphone jack, good camera.
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Yes If you compare the device with the price then there will be only a few devices which can be sold. Even if you do the comparison also Note 9 is best at that price in my point.
rowihel2012 said:
My problems with more 9 are
Camera is average
Battery is not great at night and shutter speed is bad
Fast charging is a joke
Sound form headphone Jack is ugly besides my old nex s
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I don't think the Note9 camera is AVERAGE. I would say that the camera captures decent pictures with high quality.
And the battery life is good it lasts a day.
But I agree that sound quality is not up to the mark.
And it is here the official Android authority report says that the Best readers choice award and the best Phone of the year is the Note 9. Once again we proved that Note 9 is Best.
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-readers-choice-award-929541/

Am I crazy out Huawei is actually one step ahead now?

Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
vodovodo said:
Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
venki5star said:
You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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I never been with Huawei before. But I do know Megapixel is a gimmick. If the camera software is not good, all these megapixels are nothing but more storage space.
You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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EMUI will trigger a slow descent into madness. It's quite a frustrating experience. The aggressive app management is great for the battery life but a terrible user experience. AOD is frustratingly useless and don't get me started on notifications. A nightmare... The wireless desktop thingy is a cool party trick and the camera can be great. It's not as consistent as the pixel's. I would streer clear if I were you.
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Duncan1982 said:
You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
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I have had a couple of Huawei phones and wouldn't touch one again ever. While EMUI was one factor, the main reason is lack of support in the US. They are a pretty popular phone overseas though.
vodovodo said:
Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
How about we all embrace the fact that smaller companies have been rising to compete with current flagships. Competition is a good thing, without it nobody would create anything new. Take a look at the iPhone vs Android. Granted, the iPhone does compete with Android but nowhere near the same level Android competes with other Android phones.
MinwooChong said:
Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
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Thanks I did, in the same video note 9 outperformed the iPhone max, witch is not the case with my usage and it makes sense since normal day to day use phone ain't always in our hands and standby time is much better on an iphone. These looping battery tests doesn't always make sense
By the way the lense size itself is huge on the mate 20 compared to s10 not only megapixel count
Got the mate 20 pro Thanks, got it for almost 550$ ... Couldn't resist the deal.
software wise it sucks big time. UI and navigation feels like an unfinished iOS clone ! Samsung one UI is much much better
Hardware is freaking awesome so far. Over 3 hours SOT with 68% left, app management is very flexible not that bad and it's blazing fast and smooth, camera is great and much better results than note and iPhone

Love the phone apart from the camera?

So it took me a few weeks, lots of reading and watching reviews to change from Huawei to Sony. I had the p30 pro and it was an awesome phone but due to not having the app store anymore the p40 was out of the question for my new upgrade. So i'm stuck between Samsung and Apple right? Oh but Sony still make phones with awesome features and specs. Anyways, i love the phone, it's amazing! Screen is great, it's light and i can hold it in one hand etc.
My issue lies with the camera, I just can't get any good photos! Always grainy, too dark, too light (i am talking the pro mode as the point to shoot is well, meh)
Did i make the right decision? It almost feels the p30 pro's camera is better and that's an old phone!
I don't want to buy Samsung or Apple but with this one issue, i just might have to.
Any advice please, it would be much appreciated
Well,it's true to feel that way. I have been using mate 20 pro for 2 years, X1 ii is my first Sony phone which I feel camera shooting speed is quite slow compared to Huawei. But it can be rooted while mate 20 pro cannot. But I still enjoy using X1 ii.
Recently got my mate 20 pro rooted.
The same to me. I switched from Galaxy Note 8 and was very disappointed about photos quality. Their are good only in good light conditions. Otherwise it took way to long to take a picture or they are blurry.
It worked much better in my old Note 8.

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