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Thinking of moving from note 8 to p20 pro

I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....

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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.

camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away

vandal4e said:
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it

esiemi said:
had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Neo_Sk8eR said:
Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.

Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.

Jonathan-H said:
I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery

What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/horrible-touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567
It's this

I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups

I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?

Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..

You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.

i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally

MI 8 or Poco

Camera and battery life are key areas for me
Which would you choose

Camera wise the Mi 8 is better however the poco's battery life should be longer and Poco's receiving L1 support

Mi8, because of camera and display. There should be no issues with the battery life since MIUI is heavily blocking background applications.
If you need a headphone jack, just go for Pocophone.

poco doesnt have nfc also

my mi 8 speaker is very muted, battery life is ok,
camera is ok and gets great with gcam port.
If you are looking in other options, I would recommend S9 Plus if you would spend some extra cash.

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Camera and battery life are key areas for me
Which would you choose
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Mi8
First get LTE bands practically everywhere while Poco is mostly a 3G phone fior many countries.
Mi8 has a much better display, is not made of plastic, is better looking period, has a much better camera. In fact the mi* camera is stellar.
I get 9 hours SOT using the Global Beta 9.3.7 Rom
The Mi8 has only one speaker ( its biggest drawback) However, it is loud and sounds good, and thanks to convolution reverb it will sound like stereo.

Redmi K20 Pro Or Oneplus 7 ?

Hi everyone,
I want to buy a smartphone - but stuck between Op 7 or K20 pro ? Can't make my mind - which one should I buy ?
Any suggestion/ advice will be highly appreciated.

They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.

touch of jobo said:
They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.
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Thanks mate for your detailed comparison .
I don't use face-unlock and selfies like you. So it 'll not be any issue for me. Though I don't like Pop-Up camera. But I really like stereo speakers.
BTW, how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
OP7 has almost no development - unlike the K 20 Pro.
But I really don't like the bootloader unlocking procedure of Xiaomi. It's really annoying (really)to me.
Would you throw some lights on the multi-media experiences of K20 Pro - 3.5 mm audio quality, watching video/movie experience etc.? Really it's very important to me.
Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
Thank you once again for your reply.

K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.

I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.

Micheal86 said:
[...]how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
[...]Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
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I am probably not the best judge. I don't have an OP7, have only used this device (European 9Tpro) for under 2 weeks now and my previous phone was almost 5 years old. To me, watching video on the notch-less OLED and listening through simple wired earphones is very good.
Battery life is good. In normal day to day use when I'm not traveling, I can charge it every 2 days. In heavy use it will still last a full day easy. I have everything on all the time (wifi, sync, location, bluetooth, ambient display).
I plan to keep mine stock and locked for at least the first month, but yes from what I read on these forums, unlocking and flashing is more cumbersome and has more pitfalls than I'm used to from HTC devices.

My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))

U should also check the asus rog 2 if u are not bothered by large bezels

Anonda said:
I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.
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Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?

lrcquest said:
My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))
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Excellent comparison. :good:
Really appreciate .
Totally agree with you - OP7 is a minor upgrade from 6T. And Miui is eyecandy and has more customisations.
BTW, the same question I want to ask you - Are satisfied by switching from OP7 to Redmi K20 Pro ?

Rhoban said:
K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.
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Thanks for sharing the most important feature - audio quality of K20 Pro.
What's your feedback about the headphone audio quality of K20 Pro?
Is it really awesome or average ?
I like to use rooted device. And that's why I don't like Xiaomi for their bootloader unlocking policy.
Appreciate your ADB/Fastboot procedure for deblauting.
BTW, I had some bad experiences with RN7 Pro - MTP incompatibility. My Windows PC can't recognized RN7 Pro and can't install the drivers. And finally I'd to sale RN7 Pro due to this issue. Is there any MTP/ Driver issue with K20 Pro ?

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if op7 has no notch i would have gotten it to try this oxygen os ,coming from pocophone which is mine spare phone now ,glad i dont to face with a notch all day , to me op7 just look like a 6t , by the way i have no issue connecting mine pc (win 7) to k20 pro

Yes, i really am enjoying the k20 pro. Yesterday, the android 10 OTA was received. So that also is covered.
And miui 11 is on the way by end of the year.
Btw, if u are looking for Op7T for the 90hz display, K20PRO can also reach around 80hz thru mods. Both are 1080 oled panels.
On a related note, asus rog 2 has got some Insane specs for a sweet price (128/8 ) Rs 38k.

K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....

Micheal86 said:
Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?
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Just the display looking small, because my previous device is Mi Max 2..
all others are great,

maddy143ded said:
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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Max 2000 drop it seems.

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Max 2000 drop it seems.
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Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..

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K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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It doesn't bother me much. I bought it for Rs. 25999 during the alpha sale.

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Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..
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probably mi 9 pro is out , they wants to clear stocks , anyway their mi series doesnt hold the price well

Should I buy this phone ?

So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?

manus31 said:
So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?
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If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).

valthunder said:
If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).
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Yes, Ideally this would be true but I think the next gen of high end SD chips are gonna be more expensive and power hungry due to uneeded 5g. a lot of mid range well priced phones from Xaoimi will be having mid range chips like 765.
I actually think there is a good case to skip the next gen of chips because they are mainly for 5g which most users in the world dont need

I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.

aladin6 said:
I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?

manus31 said:
What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I did upgrade from Huawei p20 pro

manus31 said:
What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I just was with Poco F1. And it was a very good experience with it and said that I will no longer get other than Xiaomi ?

Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:

Duncan1982 said:
Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:
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Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?

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Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?
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They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.

Duncan1982 said:
They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.

manus31 said:
Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.
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ColorOS runs just fine in terms of performance, it's just a bit disorganized, Cameras they are perfectly fine in good light, but I'd say they do struggle and the Samsung made GW1 64mgp sensor isn't great, but the price you can let the cam be the way it is, it's not shockingly poor, it's just average and the price point for everything else made it a great purchase for me.
Here is a pic in low light, (Curtains closed, no natural light) Stock Camera (using nighscape)

manus31 said:
What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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Duncan1982 said:
They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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The camera is great people just don't know how to shoot proper pictures

Made with 64mp mode
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Made with 64mp mode
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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS

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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS
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OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app

natedogg20050 said:
OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app
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Huawei are very good for low light so I would never expect the X2 pro to compare.What about updates ?
I believe the phone will receive support for Android 10 and 11. Updates every two months with security patch and a big update soon to colorOS 7,
Have you received timely updates as yet ?

Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.

ngagephone said:
Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.
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Thanks for the input,I looked at many reviews and comparisons over the last while and have concluded that the X2 pro is the best and most interesting deal out there.I am now bored with my 6T and wanted a change so this morning on Christmas I have just ordered my X2 pro 12/256 model in blue from Amazon Spain to receive it next week.
In regards to camera,most if not all the reviews I have looked at are positive. Ive seen that they have improved camera quality in recent updates also , particularly with low light shots.
I think people who do criticise are only nitpicking generally that a particular color may not be exactly the same as it is real life or stupid little things like that. The camera from what I've seen is excellent for the price including everything else.
Excited to use a phone with 12gb ram also,as I've only ever had 6 at most,90hz should be fun too and the little features of ColorOs.
Merry Christmas everyone.

I still cannot decide between OnePlus 7T and Realme X2 Pro. Coming from a really clean Moto G4+ experience and being kind of a power user (not gaming wise but regarding usage time & used features), I'm a little afraid that Color OS maybe couldn't deliver my wished quality. And video OIS and night capabilities of the 7T camera seems to be much better considering many YouTube comparisons.
On the other hand Realme offers super fast charging, interesting software features (three finger screenshot crop and all this nice little things) for a much lower price tag.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro), all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Rh phone is great, but MIUI sucks. Waiting a Pixel feeling ROM...

REALLY considering the upgrade from my F1 to the F2 pro now that there are custom roms available..
The price just needs to creep down a bit more..

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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro), all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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I love this phone more than my girlfriend
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rodrigomferd said:
Rh phone is great, but MIUI sucks. Waiting a Pixel feeling ROM...
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So many ROMs out try it buddy

I firkin love this phone.

My feelings
I have switched from oneplus 3T to poco F2 pro after I broke the screen on op. Unfortunately MIUI was an unpleasant surprise. The system had a lot of bloatware and I consider it as a trash. Fortunately after some time ROM development started. Now after a few months the phone is a bit more usable. Next thing is that the phone is very heavy and it is not comfortable to use it. And what about camera? I use gcam as on my old op3t and quality of images is much worse than on op3t (not comparing resolution but overal image quality and colours). Another thing is a huge price loss. I have bought this phone right after premiere. My friend bought this phone 1.5 months later for 3/5 of this price. I only talk about official stores in my country, not AliExpress etc. It is unbelievable for me as other phones (OnePlus/Samsung) doesn't lose their price after that small period of time. All in all I think I made a mistake by buying this phone. I feel disappointed. I won't give Xiaomi another chance.

I find this device fantastic, especially for the incredibly low price I got it.. 300€ so ~350$ or ~270£
The only thing I don't like is that it's a "Poco" and not a real Xiaomi / Redmi, I don't like the Poco launcher which prevents removing the app drawer
Otherwise everything is excellent on the device, the best battery life I have had to date, a very good quality screen with no holes, it's quite rare now !
The sound, although not stereo, is clear and powerful
The design is quite successful, with the lens a little too prominent and the notification LED which has a slightly strange location, but the whole exudes quality and gives a good impression

Finally got it so here are some first impressions
I'm not amazed by the display , considering it's quite a step up from my F1 i tought it would be stunning but for now it's not really the case.
The size is just right i think ; it is a bit more bulky in the hand but since both screen and battery are bigger it's not a huge price to pay imho.
The speed is a difficult one ; i only worked very briefly with it , both on stock miui and CRdroid , so far i have to say it feels a little bit more snappy then the F1 but there is not a big difference here.
Battery is always a point ; it does charge quickly on the QC charger ( multiport blitzwolf , recommended ! ) and the drain so far is managable.
I was hoping on a noticeable improvement in energy usage considering the bigger cell and the led display , maybe that is something to come
So far i'm not "blow away" by my upgrade from the F1 to the F2 , it is a nice phone and hopefully it will grow on me a bit more over time

Coming from Galaxy S9, I got this phone at crazy good deal for 350 euros.
Two main reasons why I got it were pop-up camera for uninterrupted display and very good battery life.
In my experience I charge every second day, could push to three days but I never let it go under 30%.
SOT is around 8-9 hours in 48hr period.
Camera is average, but big suprise is super macro camera that is very fun to take pictures with which made me start use camera more frequently than usual. Ultra-wide camera is also great. Tried using GCam and it takes more or less same pictures.
MIUI is all right, nothing special really. There were some bugs here or there but most of them were solved by manually updating Poco Launcher.
One thing that annoys me is that Android 11 brought slight standby drain which can be neutralized by signing out from Mi Account on settings and turning off Wi-Fi overnight.
Second thing that annoys me is that, at the time, gesture navigation isn't available with 3rd party launchers, so I'm stuck with Poco Launcher for the time being.
It's nice upgrade over Galaxy S9, maybe the software isn't as polished as One UI, but battery life is three times better and most specs are banging for 350 euros. I don't regret buying it.
Still on the edge about rooting it and installing custom ROM because I will lose warranty though