H, since I updated from miui 10 to miui 11 and even now that I have miui 12 I have noticed that the battery doesn't last as long as before. I state that since I purchased the phone (July 2019) I have always charged the battery in the best way trying to never go below 20% and trying not to go beyond 80% so I don't think a battery can lose more than 30% of its real capacity in less than a year of life. Starting to investigate I found that the battery does not charge at its real capacity i.e. 3300 mAh but at around 2200/2300 mAh. To verify all this I have carried out several tests and the easiest way to verify it is to look at the battery characteristics through the AIDA64 app (screenshot below). From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. A reply to what I wrote can be found by looking at some system files that are located in /sys/class/power_supply/battery. In particular, looking at the file called charge_full (screenshot below) you can see how the value of the file is much lower than the real battery capacity. I hope someone more competent than I can understand how to solve this hateful problem and I also invite you to check the value to try to better understand the cause of this problem.
I'm using miuimix 12.0.2 stable and the capacity is not 3300, either.
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And sorry i don't know how to post a picture, mine is 2943.
I know that batteries won't be forever and are always decreasing during the year but I think Xiaomi do a good job. I have some devices from 4 years ago and they reduced their batteries just a little. In the case of Mi 9 I have it since March 2019 and my battery still being the same. I charge it from 10-25% to 100% just some times I charge it until 80-90%, maybe every month I let it to 0% I wait for a while and charge it again to 100%.
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From the photo you posted it doesn't seem that your battery is fully charged .. we have done other research and we have discovered that most likely Xiaomi has inserted in the kernel a sort of programmed obsolescence on the battery.
Can you disclose some of the research you done on the kernel it seems interesting. I have checked with Aida64 my battery before and it never charges to 3300 even if you leave the phone plugged in the value will keep increasing but once you plug it out it drops...still getting about 5 hrs sot so not bad...I wonder if you change that value in the full charger screen you posted what will happen?
"From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. "
Actually it's better for battery life longterm to keep the device in the middle - never 0, never 100
I've certainly lost no battery life in the year + I've had the Mi 9
You are doing a good job of using the phone in the 20 to 80% range. But do you charge it at the lowest possible temperature? Temperature is a battery's worst enemy. Wireless charging is a joke. It's a glued heater in the battery.
I for instance, almost all the times charge it in front a mini fan. With this I can charge it 5ºC below normal temp charge.
And like @cezikos said, use quickcharge only on emergencies. Use at max a 1.5Amps charger. Quick charge is a marketing thing. The chemistry of the batteries are almost the same in this 10 years.
Mi mi9 have one year and the battery is 100%.
The important thing that you should precise is a type of charger that you are using. Do you use Quick Charge? If Yes, then battery capacity will be dramatically degrated. I use 5V 0.5-1.5A charger, it depends how fast I need to charge the Phone.
The next thing is a battery temperature, not Only while charging the Phone but also when you are using it. I`m using CPU Monitor and it's overlay to see the battery temp, you can also configure alerts when battery is starting to overheat.
Heavy Gaming decreases the life of the battery, there are a lot of variables that you have to cobsider, not only "programmed obsolescence"
I had the same problem. Hopefully the battery could make 3 hours of screen, the strange thing was that suddenly it began to last very little, and I was with that problem for a couple of weeks, so I decided to calibrate the battery hoping to have some results and now the battery lasted again approximately 7 hours of screen. Try to make the battery run out from 100% to 0%. The system will not let you start because it calculates that it has no battery, so what I did was leave it in recovery mode and with the screen always active, until it turns off completely, then with a 5V 1A charger. With the phone turned off, charge it until it reaches 100%. I did it three times and the battery was back to the way it was before. You could try to do the same and I hope you can solve that problem.
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I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
Battery on my Mi9 (mildly used in one year) lost 500 mAh.
Confirmed, with this trick, in doing it ONE time, I have the phone running well again, more than 8h screen on.
0.5 discharge in sleep.
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I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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Thanks! I just don't know how to clean the battery status...
You will need root.
Then are several apps that can do it. Like l speed or adiutor.
And now again confirming, in one month the phone is completely lost regarding battery again, just 3h SOT from 80 to 20. There's some pretty **** up code regarding battery in xiaomi android.
I have no problems at all using it since release.
newest xiaomi eu.
I also have problems with battery drain...
Hello guys, just want to share with you a little trick that just helped me get better SoT. First of all, I just want to mention that I'm on the newest xiaomi.eu rom (20.8.13) and that AccuBattery is showing that my battery is at 2500mAh estimated capacity. (That might be different in reality, because it's only after one charging, so don't believe it that much). Lately I noticed a significant drain while the phone was idle (screen turned off). It was draining like 1-2% every hour and I could barely get over 5h SoT. So I investigated a little bit, and found a solution on reddit. The thing was that I had many apps on autostart. If you want to check them and turn it off then open Settings > type 'autostart' in the search bar > open it > 3 dots > show system apps > turn off every unnecessary app that you think don't need that option. I turned off every app, except: Gmail, GPay, Google Photos, Clock, Calendar, Bank app, Weather app and the app called 'safety system addon' - it might be called different because I'm not on english language on my phone. I left them on just in case to have notifications/synchronization, though i don't know if it's necessary. After that there was almost 0% idle drain over the day. Now I'm on 5h4m SoT and still have 25% of battery left. The result might be even better, cause I did this trick just today while my phone was on 90-85%.
Give it guys a try, hope it will improve your daily experience with Mi 9.
P.S. Let me know guys If I could turn off the before mentioned apps and still get notifications and sync from them.
Mine reports 2800mah, debloated with Szaki tool all autostart apps disabled also did factory reset after miui12 update.
Really sad how bad miui12 has turned for me. Im having way worse battery life compared to miui11 the idle is mostly the same its just the battery doesn't last as it used to last with miui11.
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I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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I can confirm this. AIDA64 said my battery was at 2550mah capacity when fully charged. I followed this procedure and now after being fully charged, it says 3125 mah, which is much better.
I'm curious about the screen on time now. Me happy. Thanks!
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Ok so this is what i noticed has been happening with my phone...
I wake up in the morning and i unplug my phone from charger at 100% battery life...
after about 1-2 hours of no use (outside of occasional check of time) and no programs running i notice that 25% of life has diminished...
i have turned 3g off and done most of the kaiser tweak settings that help with battery life. for the rest of teh day i can use the phone and battery life runs normally but it seems the first 25 to 30% drops real fast without use
is everyone experiencing this? is it normal?
KP
The problem lies in your first sentence. "I wake up in the morning and unplug my battery." You are charging your battery too much thus killing it's battery life. I only charge my phone in the day while I'm at work. That way I can unhook it when it's fully charge. I would go on ebay and type in OEM battery Kaiser. You can pick one up for 15-30 dollars new.
From what I understand. Leaving your battery in the charger when it is fully charged should not damage the battery as long as its not there for an excessive amount of time but i might be wrong. Either way i have no way of charging the phone during the day as im on the go most of the time so this would mean even if i get a new battery it wont matter because it wile eventually do the same as i have only used this phone for about 3 or 4 months now. any other possibilities or solutions?
or should i just take it as it is and just buy a new battery maybe a bigger seido?
I thought Lithium ion batteries have overcharge protection. I charge mine overnight which I am sure a lot of others do also with no negative effects.
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I thought Lithium ion batteries have overcharge protection. I charge mine overnight which I am sure a lot of others do also with no negative effects.
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I do... Maybe I shouldn't?
I would hope it has Overcharge Protection!!!
With NiCad Batteries if you overcharged them you would kill the life of the batteries.
And while all batteries do this LiIon are least tolerant. If you overcharge a LiIon battery, that is without Overcharge protection, the LiIon Battery with BURST INTO FLAMES! Thus the problem with the Sony Batteries that caused all those Laptop battery recalls.
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You are charging your battery too much thus killing it's battery life.
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Thats total BS with lithium batteries.
To the OP: Try running down your battery completely once, until the phone switches off by itself, then recharge fully. If you never do it and always recharge before the battery is empty the battery's power meter can lose its calibration over time and display weird things.
If it doesn't help, and you can notice a drop in overall life time you might need a new battery.
I have the exact same "problem" with my Tytn II.
Is slows down evenly though. (So the first 5 % of battery vanishes in minutes basically while the last 5 % can last for an hour, when it's half full % will last somehwere in between these two extremes).
Personally I've just interpreted this as poor measuring done by the hardware and/or software. (Ie I don't think the battery performs better the less full it gets as the meter in Windows would have me think)
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Thats total BS with lithium batteries.
To the OP: Try running down your battery completely once, until the phone switches off by itself, then recharge fully. If you never do it and always recharge before the battery is empty the battery's power meter can lose its calibration over time and display weird things.
If it doesn't help, and you can notice a drop in overall life time you might need a new battery.[/QUOTE
thanks ill try it out as soon as i get a chance...
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may seem a daft point but after draining the battery, dont charge with the phone turned back on. gives a fuller charge cos its not being used and makes it quicker to charge, lol
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may seem a daft point but after draining the battery, dont charge with the phone turned back on. gives a fuller charge cos its not being used and makes it quicker to charge, lol
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Hmm...I don't see how turning my phone off to charge would increase the charging rate dramatically. My phone in standby mode uses 1% every 2 hours.
depends highly on roms and especially on radios.
with a crappy rom, battery could drop as fast as 10% per hour.
with a decent rom, battery drops in standby mode at a rate about 2% per hour.
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may seem a daft point but after draining the battery, dont charge with the phone turned back on. gives a fuller charge cos its not being used and makes it quicker to charge, lol
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If the phone is on but on standby that barely changes a thing. If it's on, with display illuminated then yes it might take you an extra 20 minutes to charge.. no big deal either.
*UPDATE*
ok so i drained my battery last night completely(turned on navizon, tt7, and skyfire) which took me about at most 2 hours.
Put it in for a charge
woke up at 9 and checked to see and it was 100%
I have push mail set to update every hour and i also run pocket sportscenter autoupdates which updates every 10 to 15 minutes
I used the phone for 5 minutes of calls
5 minutes of web surfing
a few text messages
and the occasional time check
at 6:30 pm battery life was at an amazing 90%
i was thrilled.
i continued to surf the web heavily from 730 to 8
a few more text messages
at 9 battery was at 67%
so i gotta believe that draining the battery helped recalibrate it...
i guess every 2 or 3 months i got to drain it out and give a full charge
thanks for the help guys
really appreciate it
I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
I don't know what others are telling you about conditioning a LiIon battery but you don't have to. LiIon batteries don't suffer from what NiCad do. Some do suggest wearing the battery down to nil and then charging it up again. However, this is pretty bad for the battery and should not be done more than once every 30 cycles. With every LiIon battery I've ever owned I've either trickle charged it or charged it when it wasn't too low and they've all lasted over 3 years. I've never conditioned one.
Anyway, my advice to you is to see how long your battery lasts in standby. Mine could probably last 3 days or more if I don't bother it too much (with sync, wifi and all that good stuff). I find the worst contender for battery drain is the display. The only problem I see with your stats there is that I've played Asphalt5 for around an hour and a half which is quite heavy on juice and it only drains roughly 10%-15%. Then again you're browsing the web so maybe probably worse.
Oh, and when charging your phone, don't use the USB hooked up to a computer as it doesn't stop charging when it's full. Use the wall charger to charge.
no need to worry more
just get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
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I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
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I found that charging it whenever it was convenient instead of when it was low would result in a charge that lasted ~24 hours.
I've noticed significant increase in battery life since I started waiting for the 15% charge warning, plugging it in till it was full and then unplugging it. I get 2-3 days of use this way.
I also set my email to only sync between 6 AM and 11 PM. I believe this helps a lot as well.
since we are about this topic, check this out
How to spot fake battery vs. OEM battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7953322
so if I'm listening to music during the day at work should I have my phone plugged into the wall charger or just let the battery run down?
Last night I took the charger off at midnight when it was full and when I woke up it had only dropped 5%. After reading my emails quickly it was at 93%.
it works fine either way
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769208
I find leaving the brightness on automatic uses up loads of battery. Setting it to lowest seems to make the phone last 24hrs+
I also found that having beautiful widgets clock/weather installed used up a lot of battery for some reason.
I don't use weather because it has to sync every so often to update it which to me is a waste...I'll just look outside. I also leave brightness on the lowest setting wherever I am as the screen is already very bright (why waste battery?).
My experiences with my SGS have taught me to be conservative with its battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, you eat power like crazy. The best bet is to just top her off whenever the need arises. Personally, I have found that I'm fine just topping her off in the car when I'm driving, so that I start my work day at high 90's, and especially once I've got my morning browsing out of the way, I don't eat a big chunk of battery at any other time.
But yes, if you find you are running low, you can happily just take a half hour to charge from a USB port to give you an extra boost. Alternatively, spare batteries and so forth do the same thing, although it can be annoying if you don't have a charger that will do the phone and a spare battery at once.
im experimenting with apndroid now to turn of 3g then i dont specifacly need it. It comes with an on/off widget. Looks promising so far. 40% at 2300 hour and then i have used wifi a bit, played angry birds and talked for about 2 hours in total.
Hi,
Using my N6 everyday since mid-2015, I'm considering replacing the battery with some ez30 models available on Amazon/Ebay.
Before doing that, I have a few questions :
- I often read bad reviews about batteries purchased on Internet. Is there a good and reliable place to buy one ?
- How to correctly measure the mAh remaining of my battery ?
- I installed AccuBattery telling me my battery is 91% capacity => 2932mAh out of 3220mAh. Is that reliable data after + 1,5 year of every day use ? I can't believe my battery is still that good today ^^
Thank you in advance
Hello,
Well, I bought my Nexus 6 in March 2015 and it still holding strong.
I also measured the battery with AccuBattery and it says the health is at 89% or 2872 out of 3220 mAh.
I read on some places that normally, batteries lose about 10% per year of its capacity, so I think the data is reliable.
With Android 7.1.1 stock + Franco kernel + encryption disabled and f2fs, I get 4h30 to 5h30 screen on-time, which I believe is on pair with many of the phones out there.
https://www.amazon.com/Cameron-Sino-Rechargeble-Battery-Google/dp/B01DNNJ5HE
Got above battery installed a week ago, I'll measure this battery and post my findings.
Most batteries can go on a long time as long they don't go bad(mine did).
seahorsepip said:
https://www.amazon.com/Cameron-Sino-Rechargeble-Battery-Google/dp/B01DNNJ5HE
Got above battery installed a week ago, I'll measure this battery and post my findings.
Most batteries can go on a long time as long they don't go bad(mine did).
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Any findings to post yet?
Better than the OEM?
Curious if this is a good replacement as it's 3 times the price of an eBay "OEM"...
Hi there I just got my N6 phone back from a repair, they should of replace the battery but I don't think they have, after one full charge from phone being at 5% charged over night using the same app as you guys my battery health is at 48% 1,545mAh estimated capacity ..... design capacity is 3,220mAh before I sent it away it said my battery health was 60% ....do I have to give it a few more charges before I get a more accurate reading or would you say this is a genuine reading.
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Hi there I just got my N6 phone back from a repair, they should of replace the battery but I don't think they have, after one full charge from phone being at 5% charged over night using the same app as you guys my battery health is at 48% 1,545mAh estimated capacity ..... design capacity is 3,220mAh before I sent it away it said my battery health was 60% ....do I have to give it a few more charges before I get a more accurate reading or would you say this is a genuine reading.
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UPDATE: Had to send my phone back a second time when it came back after the first charge I checked the battery health and it was 102% and the battery lasting all day and a half, so it seems they didn't replace the battery the first time.
i think this reading is so wrong, how can this be. still using original battery , never replaced.
updated screenshot after battery reset using bootloader logs reset then drained the battery to 0 let it shutdown then charge back to 100%.
does that mean i need a new battery ? @ktmom
fueled said:
updated screenshot after battery reset using bootloader logs reset then drained the battery to 0 let it shutdown then charge back to 100%.
does that mean i need a new battery ? @ktmom
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Dunno about those stats. They're based on a small amount of data. My experience is based more on actual performance.
If resetting the bootloader logs improved the performance of the android reporting, if the device use time is deteriorating, and you deal with unexpected shutdowns, then I'd expect the battery to be the root cause.
I pushed my battery beyond those points and also experience problems turning the device off and on. The screen would go dark as though the device was off, but wouldn't respond to the charger. Long pressing the power button would shutdown the device. At its worst, plugging in the charger with the device off would not bring up the basic battery charging animation nor turn on the LED.
The original designed use for the LED was to indicate charging when the device is off. I would have to plug into a low power (computer) USB port for an hour or so, then unplugging and plugging back in would trigger the LED and the device off charging animation. At that point using the factory charger would work again. The drain time was abysmal at this point [emoji6]
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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Dunno about those stats. They're based on a small amount of data. My experience is based more on actual performance.
If resetting the bootloader logs improved the performance of the android reporting, if the device use time is deteriorating, and you deal with unexpected shutdowns, then I'd expect the battery to be the root cause.
I pushed my battery beyond those points and also experience problems turning the device off and on. The screen would go dark as though the device was off, but wouldn't respond to the charger. Long pressing the power button would shutdown the device. At its worst, plugging in the charger with the device off would not bring up the basic battery charging animation nor turn on the LED.
The original designed use for the LED was to indicate charging when the device is off. I would have to plug into a low power (computer) USB port for an hour or so, then unplugging and plugging back in would trigger the LED and the device off charging animation. At that point using the factory charger would work again. The drain time was abysmal at this point [emoji6]
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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the performance actually is not bad. infact its smooth , but when the battery falls below 50 or 40% the phone will start giving me random shutdown.
but today i did something I would call extensive draining. after the bootloader logs reset, i let it drain to 0 then it shutdown, then i again reset the bootloader logs then it started and show me 10% battery so i let it drain again , then again same process repeated it showed me 8% twice. then after 4 times of doing this draining process i finally got it to 0% where it refused start and show me empty battery icon. then i connected the charger for 1 minute then started the phone and it showed me 1% and charging. and from that point i let it charge full 100%. now iam testing it. if it still shuts down then my battery is dying.
and why replacement batteries have 3025mah ? whereas the one that came inside the phone has 3220mah.
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the performance actually is not bad. infact its smooth , but when the battery falls below 50 or 40% the phone will start giving me random shutdown.
but today i did something I would call extensive draining. after the bootloader logs reset, i let it drain to 0 then it shutdown, then i again reset the bootloader logs then it started and show me 10% battery so i let it drain again , then again same process repeated it showed me 8% twice. then after 4 times of doing this draining process i finally got it to 0% where it refused start and show me empty battery icon. then i connected the charger for 1 minute then started the phone and it showed me 1% and charging. and from that point i let it charge full 100%. now iam testing it. if it still shuts down then my battery is dying.
and why replacement batteries have 3025mah ? whereas the one that came inside the phone has 3220mah.
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The shutdowns at or near 40-50% I feel are early warning signs. I totally understand why you did it, I would have done the same, but charging from full dead to fully charged is actually harder on the battery. It's ideal to charge only a percentage at a time. That said, I charge when it's convenient, without regard for care for the battery. I often leave the phone on a low current charger such as when I'm traveling. I got about 2.5 years on the original battery and bought a spare last month figuring it'll need to be replaced before I replaced the phone.
My only guess why there is a variance in replacement battery capacity is that the ability to be used as a replacement (size/wiring) is the criteria rather than the capacity.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
Hi guys
My Redmi has experiencing a bit odd behaviour every time I charge his battery
I always do full charging cycles, from 0 to 100%, and than use it till it full drains.
I usually charge it with the phone off
The last couple of times a strange thing happened: I fully charge it from 0, with the phone off, but when I turn the phone on the battery level shows something in the 70% level, the last time it was 77% only., This time I connected it back to the charger, and it went to 100%
I already installed a battery calibrator, but this keeps happening now
I use the original Xiaomi charger, or a Sony charger.
My Redmi is running the stock Marshmallow ROM - that's another funny thing, my phone simply has no updates to Noughat or ahead, I'm in Portugal those updates should have already arrived
So, any suggestion from you?
Regards
Antonio
Most probably your device has fake MIUI vendor ROM. I am guessing this because there's no update you got on your phone.
Redmi 4X has been updated already to MIUI 10 based on nougat 7.1.2.
I would recommend you to backup your all data on phone and clean flash latest stable update and restore back everything.
metelhammer said:
Most probably your device has fake MIUI vendor ROM. I am guessing this because there's no update you got on your phone.
Redmi 4X has been updated already to MIUI 10 based on nougat 7.1.2.
I would recommend you to backup your all data on phone and clean flash latest stable update and restore back everything.
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Thanks
I'm not very worried about using latest ROM's on my phone, the charging issue is the the thing that annoys me the most, I'll think about updating my phone if and when the other problem gets a solution.
Does anybody has a say on this matter?
You should try to keep your battery level above 50%. Lithium batteries need charge to keep their effectiveness.
Only do 0-100% maybe once a month. When you do, charge the phone when off to 100%. Boot phone, if it is below 100% at startup charge more until it reaches 100%, then restart. Continue this until you get stable 100% or consistently close to it.
Battery calibration apps are trash, don't even bother with it.
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Thanks
I'm not very worried about using latest ROM's on my phone, the charging issue is the the thing that annoys me the most, I'll think about updating my phone if and when the other problem gets a solution.
Does anybody has a say on this matter?
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Okay here is my thought on your situation.
I charge my phone upto or around 90% to 95% and recharge it when it falls down to around 20% to 25%, due to my daily routine and usage i do get around 20% battery remaining almost everyday and in very rae case it goes below 10% till now for me it never went shutdown due to battery gone full zero.
I have Redmi 1S and i charge like this and i still do get around 2.5 hours of screen on time on it which is great considering it is 4 years old device. and i am still using same original battery came in the box which now shows some ageing signs since it has little bulge on it and sometimes phone shuts downs it self and after turning on it looses 10% to 15% of its charge.
it is recommended to keep some battery % left in phone for good battery health.
over time battery does loose its capacity.
you should consider changing how you charge your phone dont let it charge fully or let it drain fully. when battery drained out completely it does takes some time to hold some charge and when you charge you phone fully the battery does goes back to 99% and goes again to 100% since it is already on charge, this keep happening until stop charging which affects battery capacity and the charge it can hold.
i think in you case this issue happening due to the how you charge your phone.
metelhammer said:
Okay here is my thought on your situation.
I charge my phone upto or around 90% to 95% and recharge it when it falls down to around 20% to 25%, due to my daily routine and usage i do get around 20% battery remaining almost everyday and in very rae case it goes below 10% till now for me it never went shutdown due to battery gone full zero.
I have Redmi 1S and i charge like this and i still do get around 2.5 hours of screen on time on it which is great considering it is 4 years old device. and i am still using same original battery came in the box which now shows some ageing signs since it has little bulge on it and sometimes phone shuts downs it self and after turning on it looses 10% to 15% of its charge.
it is recommended to keep some battery % left in phone for good battery health.
over time battery does loose its capacity.
you should consider changing how you charge your phone dont let it charge fully or let it drain fully. when battery drained out completely it does takes some time to hold some charge and when you charge you phone fully the battery does goes back to 99% and goes again to 100% since it is already on charge, this keep happening until stop charging which affects battery capacity and the charge it can hold.
i think in you case this issue happening due to the how you charge your phone.
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Thanks for your input
That doesn't make much sense to me since I charge it almost every time with the phone off, so once its 100% the charging process stops, and there's no way the battery should start draining because the phone is off - and even if it was on, it shouldn't loose 25% at once . If it was hardware problem, with the battery getting worn, I would never have the chance to drain it to zero slowly (it would shut down at 10% or so) or get an 100% charge level - and once I turn the phone on, he does go to 100% without any problem, so the battery seems to be ok
I do the same process with my 5 years old Sony Z1, once I charge it 100% I turn it off, and once I turn the phone on again, the battery charging level shows 100%, even If I do it a month after last charging. This old guy's battery is showing first signs of age, nowadays I get half the time I used to, but not that dramatic thing of not be able to do a phone call with 10% battery level.
So, same charger, same process, why my Xiaomi is behaving differently than he used to?
Why the charge level indicates 100% and once I turn the phone on, it shows 70 something %, and than charges without any hesitation to 100% ?
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Thanks for your input
That doesn't make much sense to me since I charge it almost every time with the phone off, so once its 100% the charging process stops, and there's no way the battery should start draining because the phone is off - and even if it was on, it shouldn't loose 25% at once . If it was hardware problem, with the battery getting worn, I would never have the chance to drain it to zero slowly (it would shut down at 10% or so) or get an 100% charge level - and once I turn the phone on, he does go to 100% without any problem, so the battery seems to be ok
I do the same process with my 5 years old Sony Z1, once I charge it 100% I turn it off, and once I turn the phone on again, the battery charging level shows 100%, even If I do it a month after last charging. This old guy's battery is showing first signs of age, nowadays I get half the time I used to, but not that dramatic thing of not be able to do a phone call with 10% battery level.
So, same charger, same process, why my Xiaomi is behaving differently than he used to?
Why the charge level indicates 100% and once I turn the phone on, it shows 70 something %, and than charges without any hesitation to 100% ?
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The I am not sure why is that happening suddenly using same process.
I know you've said not interested in flashing ROM just yet but maybe consider changing ROM to official Global/china stable MIUI 8 or latest MIUI 10.
Possible reason for this hardware/battery or software issue.
Maybe get device checked at official xiaomi service center or contact them on customer care support. They should help you the best.
I'm trying to do the update route, but I'm not very confident on my tech skills - and the downloads are failing all the time.
What's the best/easiest way to update my 4x?
antonioduarte said:
I'm trying to do the update route, but I'm not very confident on my tech skills - and the downloads are failing all the time.
What's the best/easiest way to update my 4x?
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This post should help...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78915706&postcount=2156
Xiaomi Warrior said:
This post should help...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78915706&postcount=2156
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Hi
Thanks for your reply, I ended up finding there's a MIUI tool available on playstore with ready updates for most phones, so I just downloaded the updated ROM directly to my phone and installed it.
It even kept all my apps and files, I did some backups in the process but never had to use them
Thank you all guys
have you tried
1) power off the phone and then after few seconds power on
2) charge using a different charger + different cable when your battery level drops below 50%, just to check if the phone still charges to 76-77% or if it charges to 100%.
3) if the above fails you need try factory reset or flash latest MIUI rom
Hi guys,
I keep having weird battery behaviour which led me to believe, that the battery is not properly calibrated:
When charged to 100%, the phone usually stays at 100% for a few hours depending on usage. Around 40% however it keeps dropping 1% every 2-3 seconds until after a few minutes it is drained completely and switches off.
Did anyone else notice that kind of behaviour? (Some guys on Reddit are facing the same issues)
And does anyone know a fix except waiting for a custom rom?
Thanks and all the best.
Jay
Mr. Jay Milestone said:
Hi guys,
I keep having weird battery behaviour which led me to believe, that the battery is not properly calibrated:
When charged to 100%, the phone usually stays at 100% for a few hours depending on usage. Around 40% however it keeps dropping 1% every 2-3 seconds until after a few minutes it is drained completely and switches off.
Did anyone else notice that kind of behaviour? (Some guys on Reddit are facing the same issues)
And does anyone know a fix except waiting for a custom rom?
Thanks and all the best.
Jay
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Same here, I didn't notice the battery after 40% but the phone stays at 100% for a really long time, I played Honkai Impact at max setting and it still manages to stay at 100% for an hour, mb it's software issue, I'm on 12.5.7 Global btw.
I didn't experienced that kind of issue. 12.5.13.0 EEA here.
you have to calibrate the battery.
- discharge the battery until the phone turns off
- with a slow charger (10 / 25w) charge the mobile OFF
- once it reaches 100% (1-2 hrs) wait another 2 hours.
- Power up and test.
This method usually solves this problem, it is important to use a slow charger and only use the 120w one when it is really necessary. It seems that some batteries have not been properly calibrated
austick said:
you have to calibrate the battery.
- discharge the battery until the phone turns off
- with a slow charger (10 / 25w) charge the mobile OFF
- once it reaches 100% (1-2 hrs) wait another 2 hours.
- Power up and test.
This method usually solves this problem, it is important to use a slow charger and only use the 120w one when it is really necessary. It seems that some batteries have not been properly calibrated
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Thanks, I'll try to do that with a slow charger.
After it reached 100% still keep the phone on charge for the next two hours or just wait two hours to power up?
Mr. Jay Milestone said:
Thanks, I'll try to do that with a slow charger.
After it reached 100% still keep the phone on charge for the next two hours or just wait two hours to power up?
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Still keep the phone on charge min 2 hours or more (ex. When you sleep) next you can turn on
austick said:
you have to calibrate the battery.
- discharge the battery until the phone turns off
- with a slow charger (10 / 25w) charge the mobile OFF
- once it reaches 100% (1-2 hrs) wait another 2 hours.
- Power up and test.
This method usually solves this problem, it is important to use a slow charger and only use the 120w one when it is really necessary. It seems that some batteries have not been properly calibrated
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It does fix something, now my phone can stay till 1% without turning at 3% like before, thanks.
sushuguru said:
It does fix something, now my phone can stay till 1% without turning at 3% like before, thanks.
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For me viper4android it's much better if you use wired headphones. I tried to use Dolby but it's not the same.
I'm on 12.5.13.0 EEA, same problem. Phone stay at 100% for hours, then when power dropped to 35-30% weird thing happened, it keeps dropping 1% every 2-3 seconds until after a few minutes it is drained completely and switches off.
Then it takes 5-10 minutes to start again
I will try to calibrate the battery tonight
Hi, I was facing a similar issue.
I have used 3 chargers. 120W (stock), 10W (samsung), 65W (Anker). I was worried about my battery life, so decided to ditch the 120W charger which was also not giving me a good enough battery life, considering its a 5000 mah phone.
Im not paid by anker or something, but I saw a major difference between SOT compared with stock and samsung charger as well. I dont know why this is working out so well, but im getting 7+Hrs SOT easily, on heavy usage. AndI have been getting consistent results from the past week since i switched to anker. I genuinely dont know why or how this is working. But if it works, it works.
Im assuming due to the 120W quick charge, the battery calibration gets messed up. But idk how to explain the longer duration of SOT on the anker charger.
Ps. I dont use 5G
nousernamesorry said:
Hi, I was facing a similar issue.
I have used 3 chargers. 120W (stock), 10W (samsung), 65W (Anker). I was worried about my battery life, so decided to ditch the 120W charger which was also not giving me a good enough battery life, considering its a 5000 mah phone.
Im not paid by anker or something, but I saw a major difference between SOT compared with stock and samsung charger as well. I dont know why this is working out so well, but im getting 7+Hrs SOT easily, on heavy usage. AndI have been getting consistent results from the past week since i switched to anker. I genuinely dont know why or how this is working. But if it works, it works.
Im assuming due to the 120W quick charge, the battery calibration gets messed up. But idk how to explain the longer duration of SOT on the anker charger.
Ps. I dont use 5G
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yes, I don't think you are very far from the problem. I also think that charging the mobile at 120w spoils the calibration of the battery so I use it only at specific times. I use a standard 15w charger (approx 2hrs)
3 days later It looks like calibration sorted my issues. Now battery behaves as is should.
So calibration is very recommended if battery plays up
I recently purchased this cell phone, and I am experiencing this problem. I have disabled almost everything, and uninstalled blotware. Should I calibrate the battery to improve battery drain?
Vixito said:
I recently purchased this cell phone, and I am experiencing this problem. I have disabled almost everything, and uninstalled blotware. Should I calibrate the battery to improve battery drain?
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Please read my reply in this thread, that will extend the battery drastically.
im facing this problem with this phone as well but also something else: after the battery drops to 18-20% it then discharges very very quickly to a point where in a matter of 5-10 minutes of use it's down to 0%. is this normal or is it another one of those side effects that their trashy fraudulent scamming xiaomi battery measurement causes?
will another rom fix these issues or are we stuck with them in this phone i rapidly regret getting?
I'm also facing the same issue, below 25% to 0% it drains like a liquid, I attached the screen record
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I'm also facing the same issue, below 25% to 0% it drains like a liquid, I attached the screen record
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mine got fixed (at least for now) by calibrating the battery (leave it to discharge and turn off - try to turn on again until it wont - charge to 100% with phone off) i'll see how long this lasts and update
Ya i did it for now it is fixed might be a temporary fix. I'll post here if it happens again
Same problem at first month, 100 - 99 became shorter and shorter while charging cycle increasing.