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Hi, I've had my wizard for about 6 months, and I've used 3-4 different roms. The one I'm currently using is:
Rom 2.24.10.2
Extrom 2.25.11.102
It's from the summiter rom with the installer, I've been using it for about two weeks.
For some reason, once I switched to this rom, I've have really terrible life, and for some reason, whenever it's left alone, for a long period of time, it won't wake up from a sleep state. For example, last night I had charged it to 100%, used it for about a 10 minute conversation, then went to sleep and left it on my desk, right by my bed. This was at about 1am. When I woke up at 9am, it was asleep, flashing a red led, and wouldn't wake up. I had to remove the battery and put it back on to get it to reset. What's more, when I got it restarted it 1) Gave me the very low battery warning, as the battery was showing 4% and 2) Started to perform a backup, which means it screwed up before 4am, as that's when I have it set to backup.
Any ideas? I'm about to flash to a new rom I guess, but I'm getting tired of installing and reinstalling everything. I'm not using any new software, I'm using the same programs I've been running for months.
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MSigler said:
Any ideas? I'm about to flash to a new rom I guess, but I'm getting tired of installing and reinstalling everything. I'm not using any new software, I'm using the same programs I've been running for months.
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Use Sprite Backup - it will most probably able to restore your backup made under a different ROM version in Device Upgrade mode. Please see the Backup Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) for more info.
I have the same thing happening and I almost want to go back to my Treo. I love this phone but I need to figure out this problem. As far as I can tell, the screen back light goes off but the phone stays on. This kills the battery over night. A quick glance at the phone in passing and it *looks* like the screen is off, but it's not. I have checked all the settings and they say the phone should power off after 2 min. Sometimes it does, and somtimes it dosen't. Under the power settings I have it set to turn off device if not used for 2 minutes.
I'm on ROM 2.17.7.2 WWE if that helps anyone.
-Steve
MSigler said:
Hi, I've had my wizard for about 6 months, and I've used 3-4 different roms. The one I'm currently using is:
Rom 2.24.10.2
Extrom 2.25.11.102
It's from the summiter rom with the installer, I've been using it for about two weeks.
For some reason, once I switched to this rom, I've have really terrible life, and for some reason, whenever it's left alone, for a long period of time, it won't wake up from a sleep state. For example, last night I had charged it to 100%, used it for about a 10 minute conversation, then went to sleep and left it on my desk, right by my bed. This was at about 1am. When I woke up at 9am, it was asleep, flashing a red led, and wouldn't wake up. I had to remove the battery and put it back on to get it to reset. What's more, when I got it restarted it 1) Gave me the very low battery warning, as the battery was showing 4% and 2) Started to perform a backup, which means it screwed up before 4am, as that's when I have it set to backup.
Any ideas? I'm about to flash to a new rom I guess, but I'm getting tired of installing and reinstalling everything. I'm not using any new software, I'm using the same programs I've been running for months.
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Menneisyys said:
Use Sprite Backup - it will most probably able to restore your backup made under a different ROM version in Device Upgrade mode. Please see the Backup Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) for more info.
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Yeah, I know it's possible, but I've also tried it before and had it lock my phone and I had to manually put it in bootloader and redo the ROM install. I'd rather not take a chance again.
svennn said:
I have the same thing happening and I almost want to go back to my Treo. I love this phone but I need to figure out this problem. As far as I can tell, the screen back light goes off but the phone stays on. This kills the battery over night. A quick glance at the phone in passing and it *looks* like the screen is off, but it's not. I have checked all the settings and they say the phone should power off after 2 min. Sometimes it does, and somtimes it dosen't. Under the power settings I have it set to turn off device if not used for 2 minutes.
I'm on ROM 2.17.7.2 WWE if that helps anyone.
-Steve
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Yeah, that's what it seems like, the screen will go off, but something is draining the battery really rapidly.
For me, it is only the back light going off. The screen is still on. Turn it at the right angle and you can see it is still on. A quick glance and it looks to be off. That is what kills the battery over night for me. I just can't stop it from happening.
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Yeah, that's what it seems like, the screen will go off, but something is draining the battery really rapidly.
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svennn said:
For me, it is only the back light going off. The screen is still on. Turn it at the right angle and you can see it is still on. A quick glance and it looks to be off. That is what kills the battery over night for me. I just can't stop it from happening.
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You should be able to change that under the battery settings.
I tried that. Under advanced I have it set to turn off if not used for 2 min.
I think it may have something to do with Mortplayer. That is the one app I use almost daily that turns off the back light but keeps running.
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You should be able to change that under the battery settings.
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svennn said:
I tried that. Under advanced I have it set to turn off if not used for 2 min.
I think it may have something to do with Mortplayer. That is the one app I use almost daily that turns off the back light but keeps running.
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Strange. My screen is going completely off, but the battery is going down like I've got Wifi and bluetooth on and I'm watching a movie.
I've found my Nook Color three times awake when it shouldn't be... At least two of those times I had unplugged it from the charger and hadn't opened it up at all, just basically unplugged it and took it with me to work. The third time I'm not sure, but seems like it just happened in the middle of the day for no reason.
I've also found my wifes NC doing this, except hers I found the battery was dead.
Anyone else seeing this happen?
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I've found my Nook Color three times awake when it shouldn't be... At least two of those times I had unplugged it from the charger and hadn't opened it up at all, just basically unplugged it and took it with me to work. The third time I'm not sure, but seems like it just happened in the middle of the day for no reason.
I've also found my wifes NC doing this, except hers I found the battery was dead.
Anyone else seeing this happen?
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Yes, I had the same problem which caused mine to completely run down the battery this past weekend and as luck would have it I did not have my charger with me for the entire weekend.
But I had seen it on before when taking it out of my bag after traveling and knew that it was being caused by the fact that I had changed the wifi sleep in "spare parts" from Android default to Never.
Not sure if that is what is causing this issue for you, but you may want to take a look and see what your current wifi sleep setting are.
I changed it back and have not had that problem for that past couple of days.
I've had this happen a few times. My defense against this is to manually lock it before putting it down, or into a bag.
romeyp said:
Not sure if that is what is causing this issue for you, but you may want to take a look and see what your current wifi sleep setting are.
I changed it back and have not had that problem for that past couple of days.
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Good point, I need to look... I don't think i changed the wifi sleep policy, but could be. My other idea is that maybe Setting Profiles is hanging it, but... Dunno.
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I've had this happen a few times. My defense against this is to manually lock it before putting it down, or into a bag.
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Yeah, this seems to be a workaround.. Open the cover (mine lives in its cover), unplug, unlock, then turn off the screen. Seems good then. Just seems like that initial screen on when power is unplugged makes it stay awake sometimes.
I've also noticed something, although unrelated to this I think... When plugged in the device is always awake, even with the screen off. The Uptime widget has a "Wake on" or "Wake Percent" widget as well, and it's awake the entire time it's plugged in. Ah well.
Well I finally realized what was causing my Nook to wake up in the middle of the night sometimes and not go back to sleep; Titanium Backup! I had scheduled it to back up Wed/Sun at 3am, and sure enough the last two times it woke up and subsequently died overnight was at that time.
There is a preference to change the behavior of sleep during operations called WakeLocks Mode, so I've tried the "CPU Awake" vs "Screen awake" option just to see what happens.
So hopefully that helps, and at least I know what the deal is now. If the options in Ti Backup won't fix the issue I'll ask the developer, he might be able to to do something.
EDIT: Yep, this did fix the problem. No waking up to dead Nook Colors in the house anymore now.
Has anyone been able to get the stay awake option in development to work and stay checked thru a reboot. Have used stay awake app from market but it always resets the screen timeout when I unplug to ten min or none
If you download the load monitor app, it has a feature that will keep the phone awake.
Its not that I want stay awake all the time only when on the charger. It worked that way on original stock it would stay checked thru a reboot. In the car on charge like to have it on all time and go back to timeout setting when unplugged. After rebooting need to reset would be nice to set and forget
Download stayawake it will allow you to keep awake on charging only .. it works great for me
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Not trying to go against what you're trying to do as it can be useful but it's not suggested. You will burn your screen faster that way
If you're already aware then don't mind me
I've tried search for an answer, but I can't seem to find a thread specifically for this device & issue.
My wife got a Kindle Fire HD 7 on launch day. She's been really disappointed with standby battery life. As is today - she loses 2-3% per hour in stand-by. Is that normal with these devices? If she turns wifi off during sleep it appears like it uses almost no battery.
I have a Nexus 7 - with Wifi policy set to Always on - I lose maybe 5-7% per day.
Now here's the kicker - she's worked with Kindle support and they sent her a new unit. Unfortunately she's seeing the same behavior. She's fully stock, no root, doesn't want to modify. I'm cursing amazon for gimping the battery stats in ICS. At least I can see on my Nexus who/what is using power.
I've had her try resetting the device and just leaving it not setup (no apps, just clean) does the same thing. Maybe I set her expectations too high, but I've owned a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus and the Nexus 7 - they use no where near the amount of power in stand-by. Heck my galaxy nexus was a 95% after 4 hours of standby; her fire was at 90% with absolutely no use - and I actually used my phone a bit whereas the kindle was just sitting in the living room.
Of note: the kindle itself does not appear to get 'hot' when in standby.
Did I set her expectations too high for a 7" tablet? Or is there something more going on here? The only thing I haven't tried is having her deauthorize her kindle and connect to my account (to see if it's some weird 'sync' related issue).
Sorry if I ranted a bit - I pride myself on figuring this kind of stuff out by lurking on forums - this one has me stumped!
That is not normal. I had lots of issues trying to figure out the KFHD battery drain issues and have been cautious on what to install. However if you do have location services turned on, it will drain the battery like no tomorrow. Once I turned it to off, I noticed my device will finally achieve deep sleep. Also check any apps that auto update data. The stock email is fine but things like hootsuite will keep it awake if you let it auto check for messages. I also noticed certain widgets such as Pandora may keep it from going to deep sleep even if I never ran the app. I found the KFHD to be very finicky. I went over to Nexus 7, I don't want a device that requires babysitting.
What is the best way to tell if the kindle is in deep sleep ?
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That is not normal. I had lots of issues trying to figure out the KFHD battery drain issues and have been cautious on what to install. However if you do have location services turned on, it will drain the battery like no tomorrow. Once I turned it to off, I noticed my device will finally achieve deep sleep. Also check any apps that auto update data. The stock email is fine but things like hootsuite will keep it awake if you let it auto check for messages. I also noticed certain widgets such as Pandora may keep it from going to deep sleep even if I never ran the app. I found the KFHD to be very finicky. I went over to Nexus 7, I don't want a device that requires babysitting.
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Yeah - location services are off. Just did another factory restore and signed in with my Amazon account (nothing configured beyond sign in) to see if it still does the same thing. My nexus uses less power web browsing than the kfhd in stand by
diazlaz said:
What is the best way to tell if the kindle is in deep sleep ?
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I use cpuspy app, it only works on rooted devices.
Also OP, make sure your wife manually turns off the screen when the device is not in use. I noticed the battery drains rather fast if you let it time out in that 5 min. Also use auto brightness. Otherwise I'm not sure what else to tell you. Once I found my culprits, the battery life was much better.
On a side note, don't use any apps that modify wifi settings. That will break whatever hidden setting that Amazon has programmed and you can't get it back without a rest. Unlike the first edition KF, wifi will stay on, at least for exchange emails.
alkemist80 said:
I use cpuspy app, it only works on rooted devices.
Also OP, make sure your wife manually turns off the screen when the device is not in use. I noticed the battery drains rather fast if you let it time out in that 5 min. Also use auto brightness. Otherwise I'm not sure what else to tell you. Once I found my culprits, the battery life was much better.
On a side note, don't use any apps that modify wifi settings. That will break whatever hidden setting that Amazon has programmed and you can't get it back without a rest. Unlike the first edition KF, wifi will stay on, at least for exchange emails.
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Yeah she's button OCD - so no problem there. She's used manual brightness set at like 30%.
I specifically did a factory reset last night on the 'old' device - signed in to my account (to remove her account as the 'cause'), charged up to 100%, unplugged and let set overnight (10 hours on the nose) - screen was off the whole time. Lost 33% battery! Gosh I wish I had a full battery stats Now she's looking at the new Nook.
amazon kindle fire
my kindel fire will not charge screen will not come on but the green power button still lights up when you push it. how do i fix it?
BIG-DADDY74 said:
my kindel fire will not charge screen will not come on but the green power button still lights up when you push it. how do i fix it?
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Are you using the Kindle Fire HD?
Lucky you!!
My kindle fire hd 7, drains the battery even when its completely turned off (shut down).
Last night the battery goes from 29% to 9% in 15 hours while the tablet was turned off.
Hey guys --
I did a search and while there is much discussion of deep sleep problems, there is no clear way I could easily find to identify the cause.
I have CM7.20, the MiRaGe latest build on my NC, with the settings listed in my thread (see the sig). Recently I noticed that it is not entering into deep sleep, indicated by losing ~20% battery while it is asleep overnight in about 8 hrs. Battery results tell me it's "WiFi" taking like 30% of the battery, which seems quite odd, since I had it set to turn off WiFi while the screen off unless connected to the charger.
Any clues on how to identify the problem with deep sleep?
As for usage, I am using my NC 99% of the time with the following apps:
Moon+ Reader (probably 70% of time)
YouVersion Bible app (most of the rest of the time)
Dolphin Browser HD (maybe 2% of the time)
Enhanced Email and MailDroid - very occasionally but they are checking mail on 15 min intervals when wifi is on.
I have a ton of other apps installed but I almost never use them except for these.
Any help on how to determine what is causing the NC to not go into deep sleep will be immensely helpful. I have a 2-week Euro business trip coming up next month and I would really like to solve this before then.
Thanks!
Better Battery Stats might help. Try turning off sync before bed and see if you still lose 20%. If so, it's definitely some app that's the culprit. Grab something that will tell you what program is using data and how much/how often and you should be able to isolate it pretty quick.
mr72 said:
Hey guys --
I did a search and while there is much discussion of deep sleep problems, there is no clear way I could easily find to identify the cause.
I have CM7.20, the MiRaGe latest build on my NC, with the settings listed in my thread (see the sig). Recently I noticed that it is not entering into deep sleep, indicated by losing ~20% battery while it is asleep overnight in about 8 hrs. Battery results tell me it's "WiFi" taking like 30% of the battery, which seems quite odd, since I had it set to turn off WiFi while the screen off unless connected to the charger.
Any clues on how to identify the problem with deep sleep?
As for usage, I am using my NC 99% of the time with the following apps:
Moon+ Reader (probably 70% of time)
YouVersion Bible app (most of the rest of the time)
Dolphin Browser HD (maybe 2% of the time)
Enhanced Email and MailDroid - very occasionally but they are checking mail on 15 min intervals when wifi is on.
I have a ton of other apps installed but I almost never use them except for these.
Any help on how to determine what is causing the NC to not go into deep sleep will be immensely helpful. I have a 2-week Euro business trip coming up next month and I would really like to solve this before then.
Thanks!
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Better Battery Stats might help. Try turning off sync before bed and see if you still lose 20%. If so, it's definitely some app that's the culprit. Grab something that will tell you what program is using data and how much/how often and you should be able to isolate it pretty quick.
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OK, but it should be turning off wifi, and therefore sync for ALL apps, when it is asleep. Can an app override this setting? That's my guess, is some app is doing this. How can I ID that?
mr72 said:
OK, but it should be turning off wifi, and therefore sync for ALL apps, when it is asleep. Can an app override this setting? That's my guess, is some app is doing this. How can I ID that?
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Like envygreen said use that app to track wakelocks. Even if wifi is off, some app may be applying a wakelock to try to sync.
leapinlar said:
Like envygreen said use that app to track wakelocks. Even if wifi is off, some app may be applying a wakelock to try to sync.
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Alright, I'm on it
So last night I finished charging it and read for a couple of minutes, then put it to sleep to see how it went overnight.
My Wi-Fi sleep policy is set to turn off wifi when the display is off.
When I got up this morning I checked it and it had lost over 10% battery over night, and I checked BetterBatteryStats and I think it is going into deep sleep but maybe not shutting off wifi.
I have attached the screenshots from BetterBatteryStats, and I think I need help interpreting them and finding the cause.
ok, so here I am replying to my own thread... If I am reading this right it seems to be looking like my wifi is on the entire time, not only when the screen is on. Is this the right way to read this? In this case, it looks like "Wi-Fi sleep policy" being set to "When screen turns off" is not actually working... right?
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ok, so here I am replying to my own thread... If I am reading this right it seems to be looking like my wifi is on the entire time, not only when the screen is on. Is this the right way to read this? In this case, it looks like "Wi-Fi sleep policy" being set to "When screen turns off" is not actually working... right?
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It sure looks that way to me too. It says wifi on 8 hours. Did you try toggling the setting a few times? Also you are on Mirage and he may have done something in his tinkering that messed that setting up.
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It sure looks that way to me too. It says wifi on 8 hours. Did you try toggling the setting a few times? Also you are on Mirage and he may have done something in his tinkering that messed that setting up.
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yeah I did toggle the setting on and off, and in fact before I had it set to "On during sleep if plugged" for a long time, recently changed it, thinking maybe this was the cause.
But it does appear that maybe this is what is killing the battery. There doesn't appear to be any network activity when the screen is off, just looks like the wifi radio is powered up.
Any advice?
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yeah I did toggle the setting on and off, and in fact before I had it set to "On during sleep if plugged" for a long time, recently changed it, thinking maybe this was the cause.
But it does appear that maybe this is what is killing the battery. There doesn't appear to be any network activity when the screen is off, just looks like the wifi radio is powered up.
Any advice?
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Switch to CM7.2 stable?
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Switch to CM7.2 stable?
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Hmm. that seems like an extreme step, but maybe ... wonder how much of the snappiness I will lose.
EDIT: OK I switched to CM7.2 stable. Nice I didn't seem to lose any settings. Let's see how it goes. Thanks for the advice, I'll report back here if it still does the same thing.
Also uninstalled beautiful widgets... figured maybe that could be causing an issue.
Oh, and I probably had a SOD kernel patch applied... perhaps that was the problem too
guess I should change only one variable at a time for a good test, but in reality I just want to get it fixed and not really diagnose it.
I was having a similar problem...what I did was run the V6 supercharger script, granted i am running CM9 atm but it took care of any problems I had with battery life and wifi signal.
Question: does having WiFi on keep the phone from going into deep sleep at all?
I have found that my phone is not going into deep sleep. I checked what is holding wake locks, and the time with wake locks is way less than the time the phone has the screen off, so it appears it is not deep sleeping, even though there are not wake locks.
I have an extended battery, so I get good battery life, but always interested in improving it. But I also have this thought that if I have to turn everything off, and only synch when I turn the screen on, that is not ideal either.
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Question: does having WiFi on keep the phone from going into deep sleep at all?
I have found that my phone is not going into deep sleep. I checked what is holding wake locks, and the time with wake locks is way less than the time the phone has the screen off, so it appears it is not deep sleeping, even though there are not wake locks.
I have an extended battery, so I get good battery life, but always interested in improving it. But I also have this thought that if I have to turn everything off, and only synch when I turn the screen on, that is not ideal either.
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Get CpuSpy free on play store. It will tell you exactly how much deep sleep you are getting.
Having wifi on all the time should not prevent deep sleep. Only when things use it does it come out of deep sleep.
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Get CpuSpy free on play store. It will tell you exactly how much deep sleep you are getting.
Having wifi on all the time should not prevent deep sleep. Only when things use it does it come out of deep sleep.
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I have CPUSpy Free, and that is how I know I am not getting deep sleep. My challenge now is to identify why.
OK, so it seems that CM7.20 stable definitely fixes things. I didn't flash the SOD fix, so maybe the SOD fix was preventing deep sleep before, or maybe something else in the kang build was preventing deep sleep with wifi on when the screen is on.
However the better battery stats still seems to say my wifi is never actually going off. I am not sure I am interpreting the results correctly. It looks like the wifi is on all the time even though it's set to turn off when the screen is off. But I can let the NC sit on my night stand overnight and lose only a couple of % where it was like 10+% before. I still think my problem was due to some app that updated and not the ROM because the problem started weeks after I last updated the ROM.