OLIVE and OLIVE_EEA differences? - Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers

Hello!
I recently bought a Redmi 8, it came with a Global ROM that I updated to MIUI 11.0.7.0 which shows up as the latest version. I'm in EU, and the code name shows up as OLIVE_EEA in the Hidden Settings app.
What are the differences between the OLIVE and OLIVE_EEA variants?
Is this device compatible with regular olive roms, recoveries and other tools?

Global and Eu roms are almost similar. They both are shipped with google apps. They are more privacy friendly. No bloatware. Eu roms are less updated whereas global are updated more frequently. You will notice the current eu rom is still on an older version than global if u install.

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Questions about K20 Pro from China

I wanted to buy K20 Pro 8/256 version since they didn't release it here in Europe. But i have some question regarding ROM. I wanted to buy it on aliexpress for example here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33025436528.html there are versions with Chinese rom and Global rom, so what i want to ask:
1. If i understand correctly it's a chinese market version with installed Global (indian) rom, is that right?
2. Does this Indian Global rom receive OTA updates?
3. From what I've read there is chinese ROM for this phone (english+chinese), Indian one and Global/EU one (? see next question)
4. But these are also 2 versions of the phone itself, Chinese and Indian? Or did I hear wrong? I heard its better to buy Indian one, but where can I find it?
5. Is it possible to install Mi 9T Pro Global EU rom on this phone? Is it even out yet?
6. I know that the bootloader will be unlocked, so the only way to relock it is to install Chinese rom, am i right? (I mean i heard that banking apps don't like unlocked phones)
7. I heard about Xiaomi.eu but I'm not really a fan of fan-made roms. I mean most of my past phones were working on stock roms since i didn't really feel the need to change it. But if there might be some problems with Indian ROM, maybe is it worth to check it out?
Thanks in advance
ma_ko said:
I wanted to buy K20 Pro 8/256 version since they didn't release it here in Europe. But i have some question regarding ROM. I wanted to buy it on aliexpress for example here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33025436528.html there are versions with Chinese rom and Global rom, so what i want to ask:
1. If i understand correctly it's a chinese market version with installed Global (indian) rom, is that right?
2. Does this Indian Global rom receive OTA updates?
3. From what I've read there is chinese ROM for this phone (english+chinese), Indian one and Global/EU one (? see next question)
4. But these are also 2 versions of the phone itself, Chinese and Indian? Or did I hear wrong? I heard its better to buy Indian one, but where can I find it?
5. Is it possible to install Mi 9T Pro Global EU rom on this phone? Is it even out yet?
6. I know that the bootloader will be unlocked, so the only way to relock it is to install Chinese rom, am i right? (I mean i heard that banking apps don't like unlocked phones)
7. I heard about Xiaomi.eu but I'm not really a fan of fan-made roms. I mean most of my past phones were working on stock roms since i didn't really feel the need to change it. But if there might be some problems with Indian ROM, maybe is it worth to check it out?
Thanks in advance
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The Indian version is missing NFC hardware. The Chinese model also has a couple more LTE bands unlocked, but none that you'll care about in Europe. So as far as hardware is concerned, the Chinese model is better. It is the Indian ROM that is better, but it does have the NFC chip software disabled, so you'll lose NFC functionality with the Indian ROM on a Chinese phone.
Originally, the Chinese phones sold with a global ROM had fake global ROMs installed. Once the Indian variant was released they started to install the official Indian ROM. Now that the official EEA ROM is available, some sellers may start to install that instead of the Indian ROM. In theory, if they are installing untouched official ROMs, then they should have OTA working.
Yes the Mi 9T Pro ROM is now available.
Yes you will hard brick the phone if you try to lock the bootloader with an official ROM that is not the same region as the phone.
You should be able to overcome issues with banking apps, etc. by flashing Magisk and installing appropriate Magisk modules.
Xiaomi.eu is a little bit more than a fan made ROM. It is a community developed ROM, but it has been going almost as long as MIUI itself. They have worked in collaboration with Xiaomi through the years, helping Xiaomi to globalise some of their apps, with Xiaomi reciprocating by helping occasionally with the Xiaomi.eu ROMs. The ROMs themselves take official Chinese MIUI source code as its base, the team then add many languages to make it global, remove all bloatware and adware and as much unneeded, Chinese centric MIUI apps as possible, then add some of there own customisation and tweaks.

Mi 9t pro versions

I am slightly confused by all the different versions of the Mi 9t pro. As of now, MIUI Global 10.3.2. is installed on my phone. Apparently, there are different global versions (global and EEA global).
Two questions:
1. Is it necessary to differentiate between the global and EEA global firmware or can both versions be used/flashed interchangeably? For example, in the LOS 17 thread, only one global firmware has been uploaded/linked.
2. Has Android 10 been released for the Global version? From what I have read so far, it seems that Android 10 has not been released for the global version.
flel said:
I am slightly confused by all the different versions of the Mi 9t pro. As of now, MIUI Global 10.3.2. is installed on my phone. Apparently, there are different global versions (global and EEA global).
Two questions:
1. Is it necessary to differentiate between the global and EEA global firmware or can both versions be used/flashed interchangeably? For example, in the LOS 17 thread, only one global firmware has been uploaded/linked.
2. Has Android 10 been released for the Global version? From what I have read so far, it seems that Android 10 has not been released for the global version.
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Wrong thread
EpickBroVlad said:
Wrong thread
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Suggestions?
flel said:
I am slightly confused by all the different versions of the Mi 9t pro. As of now, MIUI Global 10.3.2. is installed on my phone. Apparently, there are different global versions (global and EEA global).
Two questions:
1. Is it necessary to differentiate between the global and EEA global firmware or can both versions be used/flashed interchangeably? For example, in the LOS 17 thread, only one global firmware has been uploaded/linked.
2. Has Android 10 been released for the Global version? From what I have read so far, it seems that Android 10 has not been released for the global version.
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What causes confusion is people referring to any non Chinese version as a global version. Before the European and global versions of the phone arrived most people referred to the Indian ROM as global.
They are all global ROMs, in the wider sense that they all have multiple language options, which is the main reason they all get called global.
However, it is best to think of them in terms of the phone they are made for, in order to avoid confusion. So only referring to the EEA ROM as either a EEA, EU or European version, don't term it as a global version as that should only refer to the version of MIUI for the global phone.
Any MIUI version for the K20/9T Pro can be flashed on any phone. However the bootloader can only be locked with the correct version of MIUI for the phone. Trying to lock it with a different region ROM will brick the phone.
Although LOS17 recommends keeping the correct firmware and vendor for your phone, it isn't strictly necessary. Many users with EEA and global phones have flashed the Chinese firmware and vendor files without any additional issues in LOS. If you wanted to install LOS on a global phone you 'should' be OK flashing EEA MIUI 11 firmware and vendor files before flashing LOS.
AFAIK the global version of MIUI 11 has not yet been released. I can't imagine it being too far behind the EEA version as the 2 are almost identical.

EU VS MI

what are the difference between MI9T PRO EU(QFKEUXM) and MI9T PRO MI(PFJMIXM)??
Are two of them supports BAND28?
haharoldkini said:
what are the difference between MI9T PRO EU(QFKEUXM) and MI9T PRO MI(PFJMIXM)??
Are two of them supports BAND28?
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So far I know they are 100% identical and only the Miui Rom and support is a lil bit different.
1. Global ROM is the official worldwide ROM for all countries except China (and India?)
2. The Global ROM has also a Beta Program
3. The Global ROM receives updates every 1 to 2 months
1. EEA ROM was specifically designed for EU countries
2. During the first setup, you can disable all ads inside Mi Apps globally, whereas in the Global ROM, you need to do that in the Apps themselves
3. The EEA ROM doesn't have a Beta program
4. Updates seem to be slower
Source
Kollachi said:
So far I know they are 100% identical and only the Miui Rom and support is a lil bit different.
1. Global ROM is the official worldwide ROM for all countries except China (and India?)
2. The Global ROM has also a Beta Program
3. The Global ROM receives updates every 1 to 2 months
1. EEA ROM was specifically designed for EU countries
2. During the first setup, you can disable all ads inside Mi Apps globally, whereas in the Global ROM, you need to do that in the Apps themselves
3. The EEA ROM doesn't have a Beta program
4. Updates seem to be slower
Source
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Good info. Just to add that Xiaomi have since stopped the beta program, since that linked post, for all regions except China. Now it's only possible to get Chinese beta ROMs.
AFAIK, the only difference is around the strict EU regulations around the ads and data gathering. Though it sounds like Xiaomi are introducing the same easier, centralised, one click controls around these, within the core MIUI 11 functionality, so this would minimise even this difference between EEA and global, going forward.

Question Mi 11 Ultra - Which Version to buy (EEA or Global)?

Hi,
I am planning to buy the Mi 11 Ultra but I am not sure which version to get.
Since my provider (Telekom Germany) uses a 4G frequency the Chinese version does not support I could only take the global hardware version.
But as far as I have read on this forum an remember from my Mi 9 back in the days there are two different firmware versions. The normal Global and the EEA (European) version.
On my Mi 9, I remember that the Global firmware got updates faster and had a few more features than the EEA one.
Since I use some banking apps which require a passed Safetynet check I would like to avoid unlocking the bootloader to switch to the global firmware.
Has anyone already some information on which version to get and if there are differences when it comes to 5G Dynamic Spectrum Sharing support? Either I could easily order the EEA one directly from Xiaomi Germany once it is available or would have to import the Global version.
Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations.
pwnageforever said:
Hi,
I am planning to buy the Mi 11 Ultra but I am not sure which version to get.
Since my provider (Telekom Germany) uses a 4G frequency the Chinese version does not support I could only take the global hardware version.
But as far as I have read on this forum an remember from my Mi 9 back in the days there are two different firmware versions. The normal Global and the EEA (European) version.
On my Mi 9, I remember that the Global firmware got updates faster and had a few more features than the EEA one.
Since I use some banking apps which require a passed Safetynet check I would like to avoid unlocking the bootloader to switch to the global firmware.
Has anyone already some information on which version to get and if there are differences when it comes to 5G Dynamic Spectrum Sharing support? Either I could easily order the EEA one directly from Xiaomi Germany once it is available or would have to import the Global version.
Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations.
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Simply, there is no EEA version of mi 11 ultra as stock, EEA firmware is not official firmware to be released out of the box and it extracted from Chinese version.
I had your thoughts as well until someone corrected me.
hassanaliyeh said:
Simply, there is no EEA version of mi 11 ultra as stock, EEA firmware is not official firmware to be released out of the box and it extracted from Chinese version.
I had your thoughts as well until someone corrected me.
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No, I think you are confusing EEA with EU.
EEA is an official ROM, but does appear to just be a later global version.
This is the official firmware list: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/star/
Europe is the EEA version.
hassanaliyeh said:
Simply, there is no EEA version of mi 11 ultra as stock, EEA firmware is not official firmware to be released out of the box and it extracted from Chinese version.
I had your thoughts as well until someone corrected me.
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Are you sure you do not mix up the xiaomi.eu ROM (which is a rather unofficial firmware based on the official China ROM) with the official EEA firmware, which is also listed on the official firmware list for the Mi 11 Ultra here in the forum?
pwnageforever said:
Since my provider (Telekom Germany) uses a 4G frequency the Chinese version does not support I could only take the global hardware version.
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I'm on Vodafone Germany with a CN Mi11U which is working nice and fine, not sure which 4G bands Telekom uses, though.
If I look at the specs the CN version actually supports more bands than the EU version with the exception of B32 and B66 which is EU only....
s3axel said:
I'm on Vodafone Germany with a CN Mi11U which is working nice and fine, not sure which 4G bands Telekom uses, though.
If I look at the specs the CN version actually supports more bands than the EU version with the exception of B32 and B66 which is EU only....
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The CN Version should in general also work fine for Telekom Germany even though they plan to use B32 to increase the download speed in some areas.
But I am also not really sure how the 5G Dynamic Spectrum Sharing (DSS) compatibility of the CN Version is since it lacks some 5G frequencies (like 900Mhz) used as anchor bands for 5G by the German Telekom. Especially since my coverage at home is 5G with 900Mhz as anchor band I do not want to risk getting the CN version.
Hi, so Antoine got an answer ? Xiaomi finally released the 11 Ultra in Europe with EEA firmware, so witch one to buy of GLOBAL or Europe model ? What's the difference between these two models ?
EEA is likely to be at standard price, whereas Global can be picked up for a lot less (when it's in stock)
pwnageforever said:
Hi,
I am planning to buy the Mi 11 Ultra but I am not sure which version to get.
Since my provider (Telekom Germany) uses a 4G frequency the Chinese version does not support I could only take the global hardware version.
But as far as I have read on this forum an remember from my Mi 9 back in the days there are two different firmware versions. The normal Global and the EEA (European) version.
On my Mi 9, I remember that the Global firmware got updates faster and had a few more features than the EEA one.
Since I use some banking apps which require a passed Safetynet check I would like to avoid unlocking the bootloader to switch to the global firmware.
Has anyone already some information on which version to get and if there are differences when it comes to 5G Dynamic Spectrum Sharing support? Either I could easily order the EEA one directly from Xiaomi Germany once it is available or would have to import the Global version.
Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations.
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Since the hardware is the same on all of them, why not order Chinese model, which will cost less, imiort it and unlock it 9unless it is unlocked already and flash it with either the EEA or Global rom?
Bryandu13 said:
Hi, so Antoine got an answer ? Xiaomi finally released the 11 Ultra in Europe with EEA firmware, so witch one to buy of GLOBAL or Europe model ? What's the difference between these two models ?
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I tried global rom and eea rom and eu rom on my device.
1)eea rom: I did not like photo quality and colours of eea rom.Especially in reverse light, white shadows in dark areas. Because good camera is a must this is not an option for me. So decided to choose between global or eu
2) I tried eu rom, i liked double tap to wake,sleep, ram usage indicator,call recording etc but did not like call sound quality(worse than global rom), bluetooth sound quality (worse than global rom), randomly freeze clicking some applications(worse than global rom etc.) , swipe to turn off etc. It is clean but extremely clean, i could not find some basic stuff like clockwatch etc
3)I tried global rom, i liked its smoothness (better than eu),i liked Camera(better than eea, same with eu), i liked bluetotoh sound quality(better than eu), i disliked no recording calls option, double tap to wake on home screen not working
As a result i decided to use global rom because camera quality,bluetooth audio quality, call sound quality,smoothness are crucial things for me.
I turned of all updates because any of the devices bought before with xiaomi brand was messed up by software updates, elder mi phone,robot vacuum cleaner etc
muraxz said:
because camera quality
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Why are you still using stock camera?
muraxz said:
double tap to wake on home screen not working
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Is there a reason you need to use the default launcher? If it's about gestures, then with root you can use a mod for fixing issues on 3rd party launcher

Question Best ROM for my device

Hello everyone
I have a simple question out of curiosity. I have a global version of a Mi 11 Ultra that cane with a preinstalled MIUI 12.0.1.0 global ROM (RKAMIXM). After unlocking the bootloader I firstly installed xiaomi eu of which I was very disappointed and then moved to the official EEA firmware on MIUI 12.5.3.0 (RKAEUXM) which is my current Daily driver. I would like to know since my device came with a different global rom if the use of the EEA firmware may create a compatibility issue in terms of internet bands and connection speed and in that case if you recommend to move back to original global (which now is available in version 12.5.2.0)
xNAPx said:
Hello everyone
I have a simple question out of curiosity. I have a global version of a Mi 11 Ultra that cane with a preinstalled MIUI 12.0.1.0 global ROM (RKAMIXM). After unlocking the bootloader I firstly installed xiaomi eu of which I was very disappointed and then moved to the official EEA firmware on MIUI 12.5.3.0 (RKAEUXM) which is my current Daily driver. I would like to know since my device came with a different global rom if the use of the EEA firmware may create a compatibility issue in terms of internet bands and connection speed and in that case if you recommend to move back to original global (which now is available in version 12.5.2.0)
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The EEA and Global rom is virtually the same. The reason you can't flash the EEA and then flash the Global is because of anti-rollback code in the flash-all.bat file of the roms. Remove that (usually lines 4-11 in Notepad++) and all roms, regardless of version are flashable. So you can actually try and see which one you like best.
Are you sure I have to do this? Because I flashed EEA 12.5.3.0 over Xiaomi EU 12.5.7.0 without doing that. Did anybody tried both EEA 12.5.3.0 and the new global 12.5.2.0 and tell me the difference?
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Are you sure I have to do this? Because I flashed EEA 12.5.3.0 over Xiaomi EU 12.5.7.0 without doing that. Did anybody tried both EEA 12.5.3.0 and the new global 12.5.2.0 and tell me the difference? There's literally no difference Between the EEA and Global rom. The MiFlash tool usually gives someone an error code because of the anti-roll back section in the <flash-all.bat> file when a downgrade is attempted. If it was successful for you, Congratulations! However, it wasn't successful for me and the rom wouldn't successfully complete the install until I edited the script.
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xNAPx said:
Are you sure I have to do this? Because I flashed EEA 12.5.3.0 over Xiaomi EU 12.5.7.0 without doing that. Did anybody tried both EEA 12.5.3.0 and the new global 12.5.2.0 and tell me the difference?
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There's literally no difference Between the EEA and Global rom. The MiFlash tool usually gives someone an error code because of the anti-roll back section in the <flash-all.bat> file when a downgrade is attempted. If it was successful for you, Congratulations! However, it wasn't successful for me and the rom wouldn't successfully complete the install until I edited the script.
Why then the two versions? Which version do you use? I am curious to try the global and see if there is any improvement over the EEA I am using now (especially for 5g speed), even though the one I am using now is blazing fast, but on the global changelog it says performance is 20 times faster (now this might be true already for the EEA version I'm using now)
xNAPx said:
Why then the two versions? Which version do you use? I am curious to try the global and see if there is any improvement over the EEA I am using now (especially for 5g speed), even though the one I am using now is blazing fast, but on the global changelog it says performance is 20 times faster (now this might be true already for the EEA version I'm using now)
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The reason there are two versions is that they use different radio bands in Europe vs in other areas for example, so the radio bands may be slightly different. Adverts for that region may also be different. I am on T-Mobile here in the US and am running the Xiaomi.eu rom, which is based on the CN rom with Google services baked in and all Chinese bloat removed. This rom (weekly) has many more features that the EEA and Global rom doesn't. Such as the ability too use the rear display for video, which you the EEA and Global doesn't have as yet.
Well I am more interested in the efficiency of the 5g here in uk and what woukd be the best rom. I feel like my stock global was slightly better than this EEA I have now. I might format and flash it to check it out. It's just annoying every time you have to flash you loose all of your data and progress. Still on my current rom I am doing some debloating testing for idle battery improvements
Like I said, it's basically the same with some minor changes specific to the region.
I think I have to try it out myself if I want to be sure
xNAPx said:
I think I have to try it out myself if I want to be sure
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EEA 12.5.6, I expect to come next week or the following to global

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