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Due to insufficient optimization of the Kernel
within OxygenOS, battery discharges much faster.
OnePlus need to improve the optimization
related to the battery discharge in everyday use of the phone.
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Well described here,
one of the important reasons:
Stock OnePlus configuration forces display-related processes to use the Gold cluster(formerly known as big cores) exclusively.
This configuration brings a huge power regression since it makes every frame dispatch to wake up and use Gold cores.
This kernel resets this profile to use the configuration Google recommends, which is to use the Silver cluster(formerly known as LITTLE cores)
exclusively instead. No performance penalty was noticed with this change while massively improving battery life.
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Original link: arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series running OxygenOS
- Optimized power configuration -
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Related to battery drain:
Generally Android 9 situation was much better.
When we got Android 10, the situation started to get worse.
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Submitted to OnePlus:
[Submitted] Insufficient Kernel optimization within OxygenOS (Battery drain)

I have to power off the phone every night. Otherwise the battery consumption becomes massive. Kernel time skyrockets.

Filiprino said:
I have to power off the phone every night. Otherwise the battery consumption becomes massive. Kernel time skyrockets.
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What is your phone model?
Do you use Official stock ROM or Custom ROM?
P.S.
I mostly have 5 hours of Screen usage.
If I use the phone normally, the battery lasts for at least 24 hours.

laikexpert said:
What is your phone model?
Do you use Official stock ROM or custom ROM?
P.S.
I mostly have 5 hours of Screen usage.
If I use the phone normally, the battery lasts for at least 24 hours.
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OnePlus 7 Pro. Official stock ROM. No root, no TWRP. Bootloader locked.
Powering off every night I can achieve 8 hours of screen usage, from 100% to 0%. If I don't do that, the phone lasts 6 hours at most. Kernel wakelocks start to consume much time, and it's not related to a particular app. I have attached two screenshots of Battery Historian. One with moderated consumption and the other with kernel wakelocks going through the roof.

Filiprino said:
OnePlus 7 Pro. Official stock ROM. No root, no TWRP. Bootloader locked.
Powering off every night I can achieve 8 hours of screen usage, from 100% to 0%. If I don't do that, the phone lasts 6 hours at most. Kernel wakelocks start to consume much time, and it's not related to a particular app. I have attached two screenshots of Battery Historian. One with moderated consumption and the other with kernel wakelocks going through the roof.
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It's the same with me.
OnePlus 7 Pro.
Official stock ROM. No root, no TWRP. Bootloader locked.
P.S.
The image could not be loaded.
(I can't see any of your 2 screenshots.)
I tried with Opera and with Edge browser.

OB16 - Arter R58 - F2FS
I am getting between 1-1.5%/hr idle drain and 13%/hr active drain. OOS has good battery life.
Check your apps.

skymera said:
OB16 - Arter R58 - F2FS
I am getting between 1-1.5%/hr idle drain and 13%/hr active drain. OOS has good battery life.
Check your apps.
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More like check your kernel. Also, those are horrible drains, 13% per hour screen on and 1.5% screen off. Stock kernel is very poor for battery life on the 7pro. If anyone here is using stock firmware+kernel with no root or no magisk modifications, do a bug report to Oneplus on their site. With how poor the 7pro's battery life is, not enough people actually report it to oneplus themselves. Yknow, the people that can fix it for good.
On my device, OOS 10.3.2, Arter r54, EXT4, I average between 6 to 8 hours of SOT, and my idle drain is sub 1% - I could let it sit idle for weeks on end and still have battery life left over. I don't drain to zero, though - I'm usually plugging it in around 10-15% at the end of the day with moderate-heavy use. Good battery life can be achieved, but the fact you have to root your phone, debloat, and use a custom kernel to achieve it is awful.
I use 10.3.2 because 10.3.3 had much higher drain, as did the latest Arter. I use EXT4 mostly because I forgot to format to f2fs before setting up my phone, though truth be told I don't notice it at all.

Ruvaldak said:
Stock kernel is very poor for battery life on the 7pro. If anyone here is using stock firmware+kernel with no root or no magisk modifications, do a bug report to Oneplus on their site. With how poor the 7pro's battery life is, not enough people actually report it to oneplus
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I make bug report on official link:
[Submitted] Insufficient Kernel optimization within OxygenOS (Battery drain)
I send to OnePlus
device log and screenshot.

Ruvaldak said:
More like check your kernel. Also, those are horrible drains, 13% per hour screen on and 1.5% screen off. Stock kernel is very poor for battery life on the 7pro. If anyone here is using stock firmware+kernel with no root or no magisk modifications, do a bug report to Oneplus on their site. With how poor the 7pro's battery life is, not enough people actually report it to oneplus themselves. Yknow, the people that can fix it for good.
On my device, OOS 10.3.2, Arter r54, EXT4, I average between 6 to 8 hours of SOT, and my idle drain is sub 1% - I could let it sit idle for weeks on end and still have battery life left over. I don't drain to zero, though - I'm usually plugging it in around 10-15% at the end of the day with moderate-heavy use. Good battery life can be achieved, but the fact you have to root your phone, debloat, and use a custom kernel to achieve it is awful.
I use 10.3.2 because 10.3.3 had much higher drain, as did the latest Arter. I use EXT4 mostly because I forgot to format to f2fs before setting up my phone, though truth be told I don't notice it at all.
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Good battery life is subjective. I get 2 days out of a single charge which is more than enough.
My idle drain was sub 1% but has risen since I've installed more apps - and I'm also using the 'optimised charging' feature in OB16.

skymera said:
Good battery life is subjective. I get 2 days out of a single charge which is more than enough.
My idle drain was sub 1% but has risen since I've installed more apps - and I'm also using the 'optimised charging' feature in OB16.
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My GF gets "good battery life" out of her oneplus 8 - easily 2 days out of a full charge, but she hardly uses it during the day, so it idles more often than not, while my phone gets used quite often throughout the day.
When I mention poor battery life, I'm talking about Screen On Time while doing everyday tasks such as news, browsing reddit, texting. I don't play games, netflix, etc. Only the occasional video. Obviously SOT would be lower if you're playing Fortnite or some **** all day. But that's within reason. On the stock kernel, on tbe latest stable or OB, battery life is very poor for most people that actively use there phones. Something is draining the battery more than it should, as the same everyday tasks I mention barely get me 5 hours of SOT, whereas on my setup, I can get close to 9 hours some days.

Well described here, one of the important reasons
Insufficient Kernel optimization within OxygenOS (Battery drain):
Stock OnePlus configuration forces display-related processes to use the Gold cluster(formerly known as big cores) exclusively.
This configuration brings a huge power regression since it makes every frame dispatch to wake up and use Gold cores.
This kernel resets this profile to use the configuration Google recommends, which is to use the Silver cluster(formerly known as LITTLE cores)
exclusively instead. No performance penalty was noticed with this change while massively improving battery life.
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original link: arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series running OxygenOS
- Optimized power configuration -

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1.25%/hr with screen off.
16.58%/hr with screen on.
vs.
0.59%/hr with screen off.
10.12%/hr with screen on.
I have all apps frozen with SuperFreeze. So no rogue app consumption. Just bad kernel optimization. Kernel wakelocks are not used by apps.
Battery Historian shows that PowerManagerService.Display and PowerManager.SuspendLockout are the culprits of kernel wakelock abuse.
Kernel wakelocks go from 27h to 319h. Meanwhile userspace wakelocks remain at around 20-25 minutes.
skymera83115535 said:
OB16 - Arter R58 - F2FS
I am getting between 1-1.5%/hr idle drain and 13%/hr active drain. OOS has good battery life.
Check your apps.
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laikexpert said:
It's the same with me.
OnePlus 7 Pro.
Official stock ROM. No root, no TWRP. Bootloader locked.
P.S.
The image could not be loaded.
(I can't see any of your 2 screenshots.)
I tried with Opera and with Edge browser.
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Filiprino said:
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Your screenshots are now seen normally.
They are now loading normally.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83112289&postcount=4
Filiprino said:
Just bad kernel optimization.
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I totally agree with you.
OnePlus need to optimize the kernel
that comes with OxygenOS.

We have made a note of this and our developer team is currently working on this.
We will keep you posted regarding the further updates.
We appreciate your support and patience in this regard.
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More than a month has passed,
there is still no response from OnePlus.
[Submitted] Insufficient Kernel optimization within OxygenOS (Battery drain)
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/insufficient-kernel-optimization-within-oxygenos-battery-drain.1259689/

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[PROBLEM] High Battery Drain and Lockscreen

Hello,
Recently I noticed that my battery is drained faster than usual, even when I put it untouched overnight, it drains about 30% of battery
First, I thought, that it was kernel (I flashed Hydracore v1.1std), but when I came back to kernel, which I used (Notecore 14.1 std) battery drain still was present.
I discharged battery and charged with AC charger when phone was off, lifetime was increased little bit, but nothing important.
I checked in task manager (es task manager) and there is no unusual tasks or autorun entries...
I cleared cache and dalvik cache from CWM
I checked also cpuspy and my phone does go to deepsleep
also in battery statistics, most battery consumption is as usual order (screen consumes more than 50%) but, drain rate is increased greatly when screen is on (for example when I am using navigation) in comparison as it was before.
I bought phone 3 month ago, so battery itself should be fin
Today I also noticed that screen is not locking after specified time...and I can not figure out which application is preventing it...
currently I am on Hydracorev2.b std kernel and XXLRK stock firmware
First of all notecore is a performance based rom and second did u wiped battery stats wen u charged ur phn completely in switch off mode???
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install betterbatterystats and put your phone in airplane mode for a day. Check the BBS after and see any kind of apps or wakelocks that might be causing your battery drain issue.
also,it might be noteworthy to tell you this but your kernel is not optimized for battery life and is instead more on performance (which equates to higher CPU speed consumption and which in turns, drains much battery juice after).
Switch to a more battery saving kernel like SpeedMod... it is developed and mainly optimized to get more juice out of your phone.
Thanks gays for helpful advices
I know, that notecore is good for performance and speedmod for battery life, but as I mentioned battery drain was higher as usual (I am on notecore kernel from v3)
If I wipe battery stats will it help?
I will try betterbatterystats and write results
It will help wipe battery stats
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I was running Hydra v1 on LiquidSmooth V2 (beta2) N7000 and using the Beast Kernel. Dropped about 1% per minute while using phone and also about 30% over night.
I then flashed the HydraCore v1 which made a major improvement in performance and battery drain. I loaded HydraCore v2.1 (beta) today and the battery was already a bit better, but I then noticed that the default setting for Latitude was to automatically share my location. I disabled that and so far the battery drain has been less. Will be checking if this caused my issue.
Nyven said:
I was running Hydra v1 on LiquidSmooth V2 (beta2) N7000 and using the Beast Kernel. Dropped about 1% per minute while using phone and also about 30% over night.
I then flashed the HydraCore v1 which made a major improvement in performance and battery drain. I loaded HydraCore v2.1 (beta) today and the battery was already a bit better, but I then noticed that the default setting for Latitude was to automatically share my location. I disabled that and so far the battery drain has been less. Will be checking if this caused my issue.
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I will update to Hydra 2.1
for now, drain is less than before, I wiped battery stats
here is partial wakelock screen:
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I think this is normal?
I switched to speedmod K3-13
and now, I have deeplsleep issue, and according BBT, this is kernel wakelock multipdp, which drained 97% of my battery (about45% in 7 hours)
I think I found problem:
It's Google Maps Location update service
Code:
com.google.android.location
I found in BetterBatteryStats Alarms over 450 wakeups in 7 hours and almost no deepsleap
But I completely disabled location updates (do not update setting) in Google Maps settings....
any ideas?
Do you have some other apps that connect to the internet as well? facebook, flipboard, instant messaging apps,Accuweather /Clock Widgets... etc... ? You need to individually note all the apps you have on your phone... and one by one check if one or two have some background syncs enabled, turn them off or set it to never.
letters_to_cleo said:
Do you have some other apps that connect to the internet as well? facebook, flipboard, instant messaging apps,Accuweather /Clock Widgets... etc... ? You need to individually note all the apps you have on your phone... and one by one check if one or two have some background syncs enabled, turn them off or set it to never.
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Thanks for advice,
Yes, I have all af them :| I have disabled location now in all related (FB, Accuweather)
When data connection is on (as it was previous) it consumes a lot of battery power because there is a lot of wakeups and phone is not going in deepsleep (even when in most of applications, sync time is 1 hour (except mail clients)
Now, I have disabled data and after 40 minutes of idle time, battery is still at 100% and most of the time in deepsleep
I will check at morning battery stats and drain level,
If it is OK, I will turn data on and will observe power consumption
But, as I mentioned week age, everything was fine with turned on location services and data
I guess best option would be to flash the rom, but I want to find out what causes problem to avoid it further
giokiborg said:
Thanks for advice,
Yes, I have all af them :| I have disabled location now in all related (FB, Accuweather)
When data connection is on (as it was previous) it consumes a lot of battery power because there is a lot of wakeups and phone is not going in deepsleep (even when in most of applications, sync time is 1 hour (except mail clients)
Now, I have disabled data and after 40 minutes of idle time, battery is still at 100% and most of the time in deepsleep
I will check at morning battery stats and drain level,
If it is OK, I will turn data on and will observe power consumption
But, as I mentioned week age, everything was fine with turned on location services and data
I guess best option would be to flash the rom, but I want to find out what causes problem to avoid it further
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you can give it a shot first to observe for a couple of days to let it settle down everything.
And in case you don't know.. your apps are constantly being updated by Google itself. (when you turn data on and access Google Play for example). Some updates on some apps might have triggered this issue. Flashing Roms are just one side to the story. The other side is one big grey matter.
letters_to_cleo said:
you can give it a shot first to observe for a couple of days to let it settle down everything.
And in case you don't know.. your apps are constantly being updated by Google itself. (when you turn data on and access Google Play for example). Some updates on some apps might have triggered this issue. Flashing Roms are just one side to the story. The other side is one big grey matter.
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Yeah,
I know this things, at least as user...
Today I turned data, and battery life is greatly improved, it is about 68% at this time, no heavy use, but I had problems with Idle time too...
I also did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26044845&postcount=9
I don't know what helped, but it is better now...
giokiborg said:
Yeah,
I know this things, at least as user...
Today I turned data, and battery life is greatly improved, it is about 68% at this time, no heavy use, but I had problems with Idle time too...
I also did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26044845&postcount=9
I don't know what helped, but it is better now...
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See? , sometimes it's good to weed things out. The method of elimination usually does the trick. It's at the bottom of my signature as well... :highfive:

Question Asus zenfone 8 , I purchased a new Asus zenfone 8 dual SIM 2weeks ago . But the battery life is just shocking. Had anyone have any thoughts on this ?

Hi all
Just wondering if anyone who has an Asus zenfone 8 are having trouble with the battery life ?
Thank you
Kmoussa said:
Just wondering if anyone who has an Asus zenfone 8 are having trouble with the battery life ?
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I'm not sure about everyone. I heard from some people on stock about 6-7 hours SoT, but i don't know how. 5-6 sound much real)
dron39 said:
I'm not sure about everyone. I heard from some people on stock about 6-7 hours SoT, but i don't know how. 5-6 sound much real)
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5-6 sounds about right . That's very disappointing considering it's a 4000amh battery . I would have expected slot more hours.
I find the battery life ok but in need of some tweaks (hopefully) on AOD, 2t2w, wakelocks, cpu governors and so on.
Hopefuly they'll put the effort into it.
In my usage, i shut off the 2nd sim when i don't need it, aod, 2t2w/fingerprint is on (w/out the aod icon), reception set on 3g w/ occasional 4g, 120hz (not that much of an impact) but i restrict some of the apps that pool lots of resources and (with a few exceptions) i have most of the battery optimizations on (adaptive bat, managed auto-start aps, bg app mgmt, w/ bat draining apps off.
On an average day outdoors, spotify streams on very high most of the time to BT (aptx hd), some occasional pics/videos, plenty of instagram, some browsing and some youtube. I usually go to sleep w/ 20-30% left. Charging is done w/ shed charging and ultra steady charging during sched charging.
It is my opinion that the screen on very high brightness just eats through battery (I mostly avoid extended usage in direct sunlight).
While excluding the 120hz refresh rate, second battery hogs after the screen would be the 2t2w, aod and the general standby opptimizations.
I hope they'll address some of these but otherwise I pretty much love the tiny guy - there had to be a comproomise for the specs and pricepoint.
Kmoussa said:
5-6 sounds about right . That's very disappointing considering it's a 4000amh battery . I would have expected slot more hours.
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I think 5-6hrs with moderate usage is alright
First of all it has an 888 and flagship socs in general are known to have an higher battery consumption plus the higher refresh rate (and depends if you use 5g all the time or if you get a better reception in your area and other usage)
You can optimise some stuff in Asus autostart manager,disable aod (which consumes quite a bit of battery) and some other stuff and get slightly better battery life though
But Asus might optimise battery further with otas though
I got a root. After that, I changed the minimum frequencies of the processor (they are high in the drain, no matter what mode we choose). Chosen by a conservative governor. Removed all Google software. I set the refresh rate to 60 Hz. Disabled AOD. Sim one is 3g, the other is 2g. But I still get the same 5-6 hours. I have a suspicion that the reason for the fast discharge is the radio module.
a7lanov said:
I have a suspicion that the reason for the fast discharge is the radio module.
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By the way, what SAR level ZF8 has?
I have good signal 4G and 3G where my previous Note20 Ultra (865+) was often switching to 2G.
dron39 said:
By the way, what SAR level ZF8 has?
I have good signal 4G and 3G where my previous Note20 Ultra (865+) was often switching to 2G.
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SAR value (head): 1,412 W/kg, SAR value (body): 1,582 W/kg (source)
I've attached the official SAR test report of the Zenfone 8, if anybody's interested.
Had mine a full day and the battery is appalling! Come from a p30 with bigger screen, smaller battery and less efficient soc and the ZenFone is draining about 40% faster. Came on here to ask the exact same question!!
Its strange, ZF8 has 4000 mah battery and battery is pretty poor. Seems asus lags behind in optimizing their software
Has there been any software update from Asus that improves the battery life? I've been reading that the battery is a big issue. I'm split between getting this phone or the Pixel 5. I'm currently using a s21U and have been using big screen phones the last few users but I'm ready to switch to a more compact phone, it's rare to find one nowadays. The market has more demand for big screen phones nowadays unfortunately and the current compact Android phone choices are very limited...
So, having used a few days now it has suddenly got much better. I'm off charge since 7am and am writing at 4pm and I'm at 80%. Not massive usage - 1 hour screen time with a little Pokémon go in between which seems pretty decent to me. I've disabled 5g, have screen on auto refresh rate and running latest firmware. I do wonder if low signal strength causes disproportionate power drain, the office saw me down to 30% by mid day work virtually no usage at all.
So I have Zenfone 8 since June and battery life is OK, I can get through a day. Saying that I am a pretty heavy user as I had to charge my pixel 3 twice in a day, while now when my father is using it, battery lasts for 2 days with 4-5h screen on time.
Here is my accubattery estimates. They have gone from 6h 10min to 6h 48m in the last week, so maybe the adaptive battery is affecting this.
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My personal record, after two weeks of using this
phone! Honestly, I'm not happy. I was expecting more, when it comes to battery life.
My personal record after 1 Week!
sen_ci said:
My personal record after 1 Week!
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How? What is your settings?
My basic settings:
5G disabled
Systemmode dynamic
Refresh rate set at 90Hz
Adaptive Battery enabled
Background management enabled
Adaptive brightness enabled
AoD disabled
Double tap to wake disabled
Face unlock disabled
Fingerprint enabled
Auto sync disabled
sen_ci said:
My basic settings:
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Everything the same except AOD (only for night 8 hours) and auto-sync. Maybe auto-sync is the reason? It's setting in Accounts or some different auto-sync?
sen_ci said:
My basic settings:
5G disabled
Systemmode dynamic
Refresh rate set at 90Hz
Adaptive Battery enabled
Background management enabled
Adaptive brightness enabled
AoD disabled
Double tap to wake disabled
Face unlock disabled
Fingerprint enabled
Auto sync disabled
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Thanks for your reply! Really appreciate it! Do you use two sim cards?
@dron39 just in accounts
@Harthouse no i use only one sim card

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Please post how much freedom and autonomy does your phone let you enjoy and your app usage time with the help of battery usage screenshots
Not bad, efficient SOC bundled with a 5000 mAh power-pack and 6.43 inch AMOLED display. SOT = 60 hours 12 min
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The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
To figure out the culprit behind such phantom battery drains I find installing GSam Battery Monitor helpful.
Install it and let it run for a few charge discharge cycles and post screenshots to see actual usage vs standby drain
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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Looks like you brought it from 17% - 25% overnight drain down to 1% after optimizing your device? Try GSam
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I have this device since August 27th, after setting it up, I started optimizing it, restricted background use for a lot of apps, well, everything that could be disabled or restricted, I only gave free pass to apps I consider important, but, the reults were really bad, 17% of overnight drain! Long story short, the optimization must be done very carefully, trying to stop all kind of things might prove negative, by trial and error, I now get a good battery life, now it barely consumes 1% in 8-9 hrs idling at night, aod off, wifi on, gps on, so, try to optimize your device carefully
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I get around 20 hrs of backup with moderate gaming about 1 hour... Lots of fb youtube.. and also decent standby..
I use dark mode turning of individual apps..(coz it's glitchy).
I use automatic brightness..
auto brightness always on dark mode, sometimes I go two to three days without charging if I don't use much.
When gaming and watching youtube, browsing the web I usually put my phone on charge at around 50-40% battery life late at night and take it off charge either before I go to sleep or when I wake up. I've been VERY happy with my battery life on this device, I've never had any smartphone last this long in my life and it plays the PS2 (AetherSX2 app) games I want to as well, such a great cheap device.
For today my phone has been on for 26 hours and it's at 66% but I didn't use it that much, I played maybe one DB legends match, caught a few pokemon in pokemon go and watched some youtube vids.
I'm on global 12.5.15
edit: 30 minutes later and I am on 65% battery down from 66%
edit: so this morning about 10 hours after my previous edit I put my phone on charge at 51% battery life.
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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was there an issue with earlier versions of MIUI or something? coz I've only gotten my phone for about two months now and I've never been happier with a phone's battery life
Guys I recently got a Redmi Note 11 and so far battery life has been great, but Cell Standby is draining the most battery. Why? Even though its always connected to Wifi and I'm using only 1 sim card. Never had this issue with my other android phones.
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Guys I recently got a Redmi Note 11 and so far battery life has been great, but Cell Standby is draining the most battery. Why? Even though its always connected to Wifi and I'm using only 1 sim card. Never had this issue with my other android phones.
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this isn't for the redmi note 11
See attached. Guess those processes are what cause not great idle battery usage for the 10s (maybe ALL mtk g95 devices? ).
Anyone with an idea if
* those can be killed without affecting anything else?
* what exactly is "vendor.mediatek.hardware.pq" doing?
And since its named "pq" is this related to the oversharpening issues?
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this isn't for the redmi note 11
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I couldn't find a thread specifically for Note 11 so I posted here. Its MIUI, its the same whether its 10S or 11, hence I asked.
kenshinta said:
See attached. Guess those processes are what cause not great idle battery usage for the 10s (maybe ALL mtk g95 devices? ).
Anyone with an idea if
* those can be killed without affecting anything else?
* what exactly is "vendor.mediatek.hardware.pq" doing?
And since its named "pq" is this related to the oversharpening issues?
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yeah so basically you can kill pq by deleting one file in /vendor/etc/init, but doing that will result in broken color mode stuff, meaning no reading mode, no saturated mode etc.
So, I had to reformat my 10s after it began acting funny (lots of random reboots, weird behaviour.. )
(PS: never let your phone run down to zero - I've read this somewhere that it causes corruption somewhere and I think this is what happened to mine)
Great timing miui 13 global is available, so now have the reason to upgrade from 12.5
and now... the pq process I saw running all the time eating CPU is gone or at least running sane now, as shown in the screenshot.
Ongoing monitoring of battery but this is a great start, and a great reason to jump to miui 13.
I charge between 20%-80% that means i get 60% of alloted use and i get 5-6 hours SOT on light usage , browsing chrome and watching YouTube(10% charge per 60 minutes basically), when i do heavy activities like emulating ps 2 games (Aethersx2) it drains from 80% to 20% in around 2hours.
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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I get 1-2% overnight drain

Question MIUI 13. Is battery really any better?

Xiaomi claims that battery life has improved by around 10% for the Mi 11 on MIUI 13. I really like the phone but the battery is one of its weaker points, so I was wondering if the battery life really does improve by 10% like they claim or whether it actually gets worse with the update. I still have not received the global release so I cannot judge for myself.
I received the EEA miui 13 update (mi pilot) and I must say battery life increased after enabled "Suspend Execution for cached apps" option from developer options. Other than I can't say anything because immediately enabled this option when I installed the update but I saw others complain about the battery who received (probably they don't have knowledge about this trick). So I'm pretty satified with the battery life on this update.
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I received the EEA miui 13 update (mi pilot) and I must say battery life increased after enabled "Suspend Execution for cached apps" option from developer options. Other than I can't say anything because immediately enabled this option when I installed the update but I saw others complain about the battery who received (probably they don't have knowledge about this trick). So I'm pretty satified with the battery life on this update.
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What exactly does "Suspend Execution for cached apps" mean? Also, could you give me a ballpark percentage of the battery improvement?
based on source code comments:“Freeze apps when cached and unfreeze them once removed from the cache or killed. Frozen apps will not use any CPU cycles, reducing power consumption for misbehaving processes which might attempt to run while cached,”
For my usage the idle drain is better.. Battery drained 4-5% overnight (8hrs of sleep) instead of 8-10%. The SOT also better 12-13% instead of 16-17% per hour. In the other hand the new rom has new bugs but the battery life increased with this setting at least.
With last MIUI 13 battery life is clearly 10% worse for me. I have even did a factory reset and flashed again the full rom in recovery, and no improvement.
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based on source code comments:“Freeze apps when cached and unfreeze them once removed from the cache or killed. Frozen apps will not use any CPU cycles, reducing power consumption for misbehaving processes which might attempt to run while cached,”
For my usage the idle drain is better.. Battery drained 4-5% overnight (8hrs of sleep) instead of 8-10%. The SOT also better 12-13% instead of 16-17% per hour. In the other hand the new rom has new bugs but the battery life increased with this setting at least.
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wow if those numbers apply to me i'd call that a significant improvement, 50% less consumption in idle and 30% less in SOT really is worth it. Just to confirm though, i don't quite understand what enabling suspend execution for cached apps actually does practically speaking in a day to day usage experience.
M.Walaa said:
wow if those numbers apply to me i'd call that a significant improvement, 50% less consumption in idle and 30% less in SOT really is worth it. Just to confirm though, i don't quite understand what enabling suspend execution for cached apps actually does practically speaking in a day to day usage experience.
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Well, by those source code comments above, I would say that it completely freezes the background apps that are cached in RAM. So Viber, Whatsapp and stuff like that can't work/sync in the background, hence the lesser battery drain.
@nerve1004 is there any whitelist possibility? Do you get notifications from messaging apps in the background?
@b0nebreaker Messaging apps and notifications don't afftected. I think the process recognize apps automatically. I never miss a single notification since it's enabled. I updated just because of this new android feature. Xiaomi enabled to switch on from dev options fortunately.
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@b0nebreaker Messaging apps and notifications don't afftected. I think the process recognize apps automatically. I never miss a single notification since it's enabled. I updated just because of this new android feature. Xiaomi enabled to switch on from dev options fortunately.
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Interesting. I found that option in Evolution-X (Android 11) on my phone, I'll try it
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Interesting. I found that option in Evolution-X (Android 11) on my phone, I'll try it
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On A11 some apps interrupted so be aware.
battery life worse by 10-15% after update... and yes "suspend execution..." is enabled
Battery life is just excellent in EEA MIUI 13 13.0.4, clean flash. Better than Xiaomi.eu for me
Since MIUI 13 update, charging speed is randomly slow, i need to reboot it. Damn, never had such an awful smartphone
Has anybody managed to fix the battery drain?
I have to charge the phone 3x during the day, the drain is faster on standby than during use...
I don't know what's wrong on your side but you needs to check your settings. My battery life still decent. I disabled 5G and debloated digital wellbeing and facebook stuffs and I use facebook from browser. Screen is on FHD+ @ 60hz that's all I did.
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We don't even have 5G, also [email protected], max SOT time I get is 2-3 Hours...
Screen and Android system are two top battery users, so nothing out of ordinary...
Before MIUI 13, I would get 5 Hours of SOT
If I were you I would do a clean flash with miflash and don't restore anything from backup. Once it helped a lot for me when 12.5 arrived. Anyway 12.5 was worse and enhanced even worse in battery life for my usage.
I would say battery life it is okay. Nothing compared to 12.5 where with my same usage I would do 9%/h. Unluckily there is this android system battery drain bug.

Question Battery life on my Redmi Note 10 Pro became unexplainably crappy

My phone was purchased a little over a year ago. At first it probably needed a full recharge maybe once per two days, so I doubt it went through more than 200 charge cycles.
The screen on time when new regularly surpassed 12 hours with browsing and some YouTube. I suppose it became a bit worse as time went by, but the current SOT is terrible and also unpredictable. Again, it's mostly browsing on Chrome and YouTube, and it can be between 7 hours SOT to 10 maybe. The MIUI was updated to 13.0.15 I think a couple of months ago, and perhaps it became this bad after the update.
Does anyone else have this? The battery usage breakdown also doesn't make much sense. Chrome is often at the top but it counts as if only a small fraction of its usage was CPU foreground. Android System is often third-fourth, and the Cell Standby can be about 5%, but the drainage when not using the phone is sometimes a few percents every hour.
I revoked almost all of the system apps and also removed "Modify System Settings" for all of them as suggested somewhere, but that doesn't help.
Any solution?
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My phone was purchased a little over a year ago. At first it probably needed a full recharge maybe once per two days, so I doubt it went through more than 200 charge cycles.
The screen on time when new regularly surpassed 12 hours with browsing and some YouTube. I suppose it became a bit worse as time went by, but the current SOT is terrible and also unpredictable. Again, it's mostly browsing on Chrome and YouTube, and it can be between 7 hours SOT to 10 maybe. The MIUI was updated to 13.0.15 I think a couple of months ago, and perhaps it became this bad after the update.
Does anyone else have this? The battery usage breakdown also doesn't make much sense. Chrome is often at the top but it counts as if only a small fraction of its usage was CPU foreground. Android System is often third-fourth, and the Cell Standby can be about 5%, but the drainage when not using the phone is sometimes a few percents every hour.
I revoked almost all of the system apps and also removed "Modify System Settings" for all of them as suggested somewhere, but that doesn't help.
Any solution?
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use the dialer and tip *#*#6485#*#*
MF_02: should be the full battery cycle
MF_05: remain capacity in mAh
MF_06: designed capacity in mAh
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use the dialer and tip *#*#6485#*#*
MF_02: should be the full battery cycle
MF_05: remain capacity in mAh
MF_06: designed capacity in mAh
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I have MF_00, 01, 03 and 04 but not those suggested values.
Also, it seems this phone uses a lithium-polymer battery and according to online resources that material is rated for about 300 recharge cycles. Does to mean it's actually expected to degrade significantly after just over a year? I will note there's a battery health status (MB_06) simply saying Good.
Had the same problem, but I bought mine two months ago with global MI 13. Didn't use phone much but Chrome was always on top of the list with minimum to no usage at all. When I disabled Chrome with mi tools, battery was good again. Try debloating with mi tools if you don't have root, should do the trick.
Midvyk said:
Had the same problem, but I bought mine two months ago with global MI 13. Didn't use phone much but Chrome was always on top of the list with minimum to no usage at all. When I disabled Chrome with mi tools, battery was good again. Try debloating with mi tools if you don't have root, should do the trick.
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The question is whether it's actually because of Chrome or that there's something inaccurate with the battery readings? I prefer not to disable Chrome.
What SOT do you have with full charges?
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The question is whether it's actually because of Chrome or that there's something inaccurate ...
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To know that. Disable Chrome temporary and use another browser that time.
There could be a good chance that background use of Chrome is because of installed bloatware.
Elinx said:
To know that. Disable Chrome temporary and use another browser that time.
There could be a good chance that background use of Chrome is because of installed bloatware.
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Are there any examples of removing Xiaomi bloatware actually improving battery life?
I know you can't remove Security as it bricks the software and this seems like it might be the one thing that actually uses background battery, but the app is revoked on my phone anyway if that actually does anything.
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Are there any examples of removing Xiaomi bloatware actually improving battery life?
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I know there is a list of removeable Miui bloatware, but because I choose for a custom rom, I don't know of explicit examples.
In the past, with another Xiaomi phone I have done this and I know that this minimized the ads then, but can't remember the BB improvement.
I depends what the bloatware apps tries to do and how.
If they use network connections or cause wakelocks that prevent deep sleep etc. removing them should improve battery life.
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I know there is a list of removeable Miui bloatware, but because I choose for a custom rom, I don't know of explicit examples.
In the past, with another Xiaomi phone I have done this and I know that this minimized the ads then, but can't remember the BB improvement.
I depends what the bloatware apps tries to do and how.
If they use network connections or cause wakelocks that prevent deep sleep etc. removing them should improve battery life.
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I don't have any ads on anything other than regular ads in some third party apps.
Does the debloating method delete or just disable the apps?
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I don't have any ads on anything other than regular ads in some third party apps.
Does the debloating method delete or just disable the apps?
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You better read the threat about debloating
Without root you can only remove this app for a user.
So in theory the app is gone for you, but it will be still there and is easy to install again.
You need adb for this and can remove/install apps the easy way with a script or manually for every app.
Personally I think you must be conservative with removing system apps to prevent malfunction.
TLxda-d said:
The question is whether it's actually because of Chrome or that there's something inaccurate with the battery readings? I prefer not to disable Chrome.
What SOT do you have with full charges?
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SOT was good, 1st few charges (using from 20-85%) i got between 7h and 8h. I never go to 0 and 100% if i can help it.
Elinx said:
You better read the threat about debloating
Without root you can only remove this app for a user.
So in theory the app is gone for you, but it will be still there and is easy to install again.
You need adb for this and can remove/install apps the easy way with a script or manually for every app.
Personally I think you must be conservative with removing system apps to prevent malfunction.
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Perhaps I'll try later. Thanks.
Midvyk said:
SOT was good, 1st few charges (using from 20-85%) i got between 7h and 8h. I never go to 0 and 100% if i can help it.
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On what kind of usage? Because as I said, for light usage I got around 12 hours SOT at first.
EDIT: Ah, you referred to 85% to 20%, that could be around 12 hours for the entire battery.
Something similar happened to me this night. Bought the phone a couple of months ago, currently on miui 13 eea, rooted, sleepy kernel with limited cpu freq. With light usage the minimum SoT i got was 12 hours. However this night battery went from 15 % to 3% and the phone was totally inactive. This is the first time i see this issue. Dont know the cause.
TommasoClancione said:
Something similar happened to me this night. Bought the phone a couple of months ago, currently on miui 13 eea, rooted, sleepy kernel with limited cpu freq. With light usage the minimum SoT i got was 12 hours. However this night battery went from 15 % to 3% and the phone was totally inactive. This is the first time i see this issue. Dont know the cause.
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Just this night it seems my phone has lost almost 20% on its own. The breakdown is like this:
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And "other", whatever that refers to, is at another 31%.
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Just this night it seems my phone has lost almost 20% on its own. The breakdown is like this:
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And "other", whatever that refers to, is at another 31%.
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For me "phone idle" was about 20% of the usage. However this night everything was fine.
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For me "phone idle" was about 20% of the usage. However this night everything was fine.
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It seems the issue might be a bit better now, as so far the phone has been off the charger for about 5 hours and I have around 92% charge left over 50+ minutes of SOT.
I did "uninstall" through ADB a bunch of built in apps and software as suggested in some bloatware lists, although not everything (and some that weren't suggested in all cases but were supposedly related to mi account stuff), although another thing I did was unlog the mi account from the phone. I think I might have logged it in about a month ago when I wanted to change something with my mi router, and although nothing is set to backup to their cloud perhaps it did work in the background in some ways which heavily drained the battery?
I'll see when the battery is close to 0 what is the actual SOT.
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It seems the issue might be a bit better now, as so far the phone has been off the charger for about 5 hours and I have around 92% charge left over 50+ minutes of SOT.
I did "uninstall" through ADB a bunch of built in apps and software as suggested in some bloatware lists, although not everything (and some that weren't suggested in all cases but were supposedly related to mi account stuff), although another thing I did was unlog the mi account from the phone. I think I might have logged it in about a month ago when I wanted to change something with my mi router, and although nothing is set to backup to their cloud perhaps it did work in the background in some ways which heavily drained the battery?
I'll see when the battery is close to 0 what is the actual SOT.
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Honestly i don't really know. For example the past night i left my phone on and everything went fine, no drain or strange issues. I always use the battery saver mode and i disabled most of the miui apps with luck patcher, except security, clock and some basic apps
TommasoClancione said:
Honestly i don't really know. For example the past night i left my phone on and everything went fine, no drain or strange issues. I always use the battery saver mode and i disabled most of the miui apps with luck patcher, except security, clock and some basic apps
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Listen, the change in battery drain after the debloating I did (or just the logging out of the mi account, I don't know) is incredible! As I mentioned, it used to drain almost 20% over a 7-8 hour night with the battery breakdown I pasted above, and now it's 2% to 3% and looks like this:
Makes me wonder what it was doing in the background when all of the optional battery-draining features were supposedly disabled.
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Listen, the change in battery drain after the debloating I did (or just the logging out of the mi account, I don't know) is incredible! As I mentioned, it used to drain almost 20% over a 7-8 hour night with the battery breakdown I pasted above, and now it's 2% to 3% and looks like this:
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Makes me wonder what it was doing in the background when all of the optional battery-draining features were supposedly disabled.
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Seems really good.

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