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Most stable and fast nougat based non-miui Rom?

I own my max2 since 1.5 years now. It is unlocked.
I use Mi globe rom which is really stable.
But with updating from miui 8 to 9, i had the feeling, that 9 is slower, than miui8 (I know that miui said it Would be faster, than 8)
Since some days, I use miui 10 now.
Also at Mi globe rom.
But the same here, miui 8 is faster than 10, too.
The newer roms based on the known devs like Lineage on Android 8 and 9 seem to have some bugs, which nobody can fix 100 %.
So this is no option to me.
So of i try another rom, it has to be based on Nougat to use All Features of my device correctly. Maybe on top with a better camera software, that doesnt autofocus permanently like in miui.
Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui rom? The number of roms is that much..... To much to test them all
If there is non of the ones at xda, i Would think about going back to miui8 based Mi globe rom,which i still have a nandroid Image saved
I know that security patches Would be worse then...
Thanks alot

robert980 said:
I own my max2 since 1.5 years now. It is unlocked.
I use Mi globe rom which is really stable.
But with updating from miui 8 to 9, i had the feeling, that 9 is slower, than miui8 (I know that miui said it Would be faster, than 8)
Since some days, I use miui 10 now.
Also at Mi globe rom.
But the same here, miui 8 is faster than 10, too.
The newer roms based on the known devs like Lineage on Android 8 and 9 seem to have some bugs, which nobody can fix 100 %.
So this is no option to me.
So of i try another rom, it has to be based on Nougat to use All Features of my device correctly. Maybe on top with a better camera software, that doesnt autofocus permanently like in miui.
Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui rom? The number of roms is that much..... To much to test them all
If there is non of the ones at xda, i Would think about going back to miui8 based Mi globe rom,which i still have a nandroid Image saved
I know that security patches Would be worse then...
Thanks alot
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why not just upgrade to Pie ROM? ArrowOS looks pretty awesome and stable

jbmc83 said:
why not just upgrade to Pie ROM? ArrowOS looks pretty awesome and stable
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Pie ROMs have bugs.
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robert980 said:
.Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui ROM?
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That's exactly what I want to know.

Imho should the developers first fix all bugs and after this is ready then going to newer Android bases, like from 8 to 9....
Only because a base version is newer, doesnt automatically mean that it is better. And more bug free.
When bugs are in elemental features like doing a phonecall, this is absolutely non accetable to me.
Hope this doesnt sound to hard, because I really appreciate the work of the devs.

Pidus said:
Pie ROMs have bugs.
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really? like what? i just switched to ArrowOS and havent seen anything out of the ordinary. admittedly, only been on it for a day, but so far its stable. also keeping tabs on all the Pie ROM threads (to keep the index thread up to date ) all "bugs" reported by users so far have been due to user error, i.e. using wrong TWRP, dirty flashing, using excessive amounts of mods (substratum, magisk modules, audio enhancements, etc.).

viperOS 3.1.1 + hardrock kernel 20.2 ?

tried the 3 GHz hardrock Kernel?
Maybe a little bit too much, for the hardware

Looking for same...

what is the best rom on android 9 or should i stay on official android 8 miui 10.2.2

phone is slow a lot with the latest update miui 10.2.2.0 and it doesnt gets any updates anymore since January
what is the best rom for android 9 , is it stable bugless and faster than the official android 8

For me the best Havoc-os
Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk

well. After trying almost every roms from mm to pie.
i come to this conclusion.
For pie aosp rom i recommend mokeerom because its quite stable, good backup, and frequent updates, overall great for daily driver.
For miui, i recommended, miroom roms, latest stable, good on battery, latest with loads of miui features.
If you dont care for android versions and security update, i highly recommend, mui 8.1.4.0 global stable rom, its amazingly fast, stable and best of battery.
for aosp, i recommend JDC 7.1 older version.

Those are more of official versions, i have the phone at the moment on the global rom bit jist diacovered apparantly there is miui eu, or miui room, is there much dofference tban the global and chinesse roms?
Mokee os noone discusses about it strange

Kikatdroid said:
For me the best Havoc-os
Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
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havoc on kernel 3 or kernel 4 ? what version ? is it stable

sunilromy said:
well. After trying almost every roms from mm to pie.
i come to this conclusion.
For pie aosp rom i recommend mokeerom because its quite stable, good backup, and frequent updates, overall great for daily driver.
For miui, i recommended, miroom roms, latest stable, good on battery, latest with loads of miui features.
If you dont care for android versions and security update, i highly recommend, mui 8.1.4.0 global stable rom, its amazingly fast, stable and best of battery.
for aosp, i recommend JDC 7.1 older version.
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Those are more of official versions, i have the phone at the moment on the global rom bit jist diacovered apparantly there is miui eu, or miui room, is there much dofference tban the global and chinesse roms?
Mokee os android 9 is on nightly releases ?

mite_jan said:
Those are more of official versions, i have the phone at the moment on the global rom bit jist diacovered apparantly there is miui eu, or miui room, is there much dofference tban the global and chinesse roms?
Mokee os android 9 is on nightly releases ?
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yes.. but works best. try it yourself.

sunilromy said:
yes.. but works best. try it yourself.
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i have one more day to unlock the bootloader and i am probably putting mokee 8.1 (9,0 still nightly)
or lineage os if it comes to a stable release

stable custom ROM with Google pay support

Can anyone recommend a stable custom ROM that has working Google pay functionality for the mi 9

There are a lot of different Roms and as far as i know All of them are able to use gpay now. But if you want a stable Rom you have to use stock or xiaomi.eu stable Release. I think we will never get a stable aosp base for custom Roms. There are people telling this or That custom rom is stable but a lot of users report Bugs for the same Roms. I wasnt able to find any realy (long time) stable custom rom for the mi9

saturday_night said:
There are a lot of different Roms and as far as i know All of them are able to use gpay now. But if you want a stable Rom you have to use stock or xiaomi.eu stable Release. I think we will never get a stable aosp base for custom Roms. There are people telling this or That custom rom is stable but a lot of users report Bugs for the same Roms. I wasnt able to find any realy (long time) stable custom rom for the mi9
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Thank you for replying much appreciated

Wrong thread !!
andrew2401 said:
Can anyone recommend a stable custom ROM that has working Google pay functionality for the mi 9
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andrew2401 said:
Can anyone recommend a stable custom ROM that has working Google pay functionality for the mi 9
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I think derpfest has gpay support. Check it, it's rn the most stable rom I've tested on this device.

Kris Chen said:
Wrong thread !!
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Question Best android 13 rom?

Hey guys I’m thinking of flashing a android 13 custom Rom long term. Which one is the best ?

Android 13?, Do you mean Miui 13?, if A13 then i dont think many have installed them as theres only a couple available, very early days as yet, if you search through questions im sure someone else asked about A13 roms and testing them.

Try Project Elixir 3.0 or EvoX 7.1

I like crdroid

erickjfc said:
I like crdroid
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Up to now crDroid is running under Android 12 and not yet under Android 13.

first, you have to decide between aosp or miui based ROMs

EvoX 7.1 is pretty cool

For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life

TitQuentin said:
For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life
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Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features

BMHater12 said:
Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features
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I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.

cocopipou said:
I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.
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PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build

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PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build
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Thank You for this information.

Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.

Xavind said:
Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.
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not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.

ashufftb said:
not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.
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It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.

Xavind said:
It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.

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I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me

ashufftb said:
i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.
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Work definitely goes into any ROM. I will say this, ANY ROM here is better than stock MIUI and that's a fact

jnsson said:
I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me
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hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?

fxthomas said:
hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?
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Android 12.1 version. AFAIK there is no Android 13 PixelOS version yet

Question I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?

I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?

sgajardoz said:
I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?
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DONT exist nothing like "best" in android, the "best" rom is that one than suit your needs.

sgajardoz said:
I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?
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The last Stock miui 12.5 is the most stable and bug free IME.

I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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he is asking for "best" and "stable" rom not a buggy one xD

tutibreaker said:
he is asking for "best" and "stable" rom not a buggy one xD
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I think you don't know how hard I had to look after a at least working ROM for this phone.
And I'll say, it was a lot. This PE ROM is the best and stablest from the Custom ROMs that ain't Modded MIUI and ain't GSI.
So I keep my comment, PE , right know is the best and stablest Custom ROM for Redmi Note 10s, even though it has some features missing.

XInflict7 said:
I think you don't know how hard I had to look after a at least working ROM for this phone.
And I'll say, it was a lot. This PE ROM is the best and stablest from the Custom ROMs that ain't Modded MIUI and ain't GSI.
So I keep my comment, PE , right know is the best and stablest Custom ROM for Redmi Note 10s, even though it has some features missing.
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having bugs dont means stable :v

tutibreaker said:
having bugs dont means stable :v
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Well, I think you're right. But the system doesn't suddenly closes or gets laggy, it's smooth, and the main features of a phone works flawlessly. At least I brought some info for this phone community, because it lacks a lot.

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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I would give an ETA if I didn't have these assignments overwhelming me. Otherwise, I also am suffering from the bugs I myself have, on which I'm working whenever I can of course. IMS seems like an easy fix as all I think I need is the APK from MIUI 12.5. Otherwise, I suspect BT media will be harder to handle.
Another bug I was reported and could confirm was offline charging just like on all GSI ROMs so yeah, lots to fix, lots to tinker around.

windowz414 said:
I would give an ETA if I didn't have these assignments overwhelming me. Otherwise, I also am suffering from the bugs I myself have, on which I'm working whenever I can of course. IMS seems like an easy fix as all I think I need is the APK from MIUI 12.5. Otherwise, I suspect BT media will be harder to handle.
Another bug I was reported and could confirm was offline charging just like on all GSI ROMs so yeah, lots to fix, lots to tinker around.
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So far I'm enjoying the ROM, and I thank you a lot for providing it! If you need any help i can try my best to do it (I'm using it as my daily drive so some stuff I'll not be able to do).
I have one question about the ROM though, does this ROM is GSI or is a full custom ROM, and what's the difference?
Thanks for the hard work man!

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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XInflict7 said:
Could you please share the link of that pe rom for 10s. I appreciate it man. Been looking for that so long. Thanks
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
download.pixelexperience.org

alpine1502 said:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
download.pixelexperience.org
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Thanks for that man i really appreciate it. But iam on miui 13 Indian varient rom. And it is asking for bootloader ver 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM and it's a global ver. What should I do to install it

Drewtaggart01 said:
Thanks for that man i really appreciate it. But iam on miui 13 Indian varient rom. And it is asking for bootloader ver 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM and it's a global ver. What should I do to install it
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"Your device must be on bootloader version 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM... The current bootloader version can be checked by running the command getprop ro.bootloader in a terminal app or an adb shell from a command prompt (on Windows) or terminal (on Linux or macOS) window."
The Warning sign says "12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM" So I'd recommend you install the global version first, and then de PE ROM, but I think you could do it right away, from your Indian MIUI.
I myself had the Indian MIUI, but I messed a lot with the phone and ended up with the Global MIUI. My path was changed to ARCANE MIUI, LitE MIUI (both custom MIUI) and then back to global and then Pixel Experience since my device bootlooped after I depleted my battery one day.
Complementing the PE ROM again, my battery depleted one day and I just put it to recharge then everything worked as it should. (Traumatized by MIUI bootloops)

XInflict7 said:
"Your device must be on bootloader version 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM... The current bootloader version can be checked by running the command getprop ro.bootloader in a terminal app or an adb shell from a command prompt (on Windows) or terminal (on Linux or macOS) window."
The Warning sign says "12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM" So I'd recommend you install the global version first, and then de PE ROM, but I think you could do it right away, from your Indian MIUI.
I myself had the Indian MIUI, but I messed a lot with the phone and ended up with the Global MIUI. My path was changed to ARCANE MIUI, LitE MIUI (both custom MIUI) and then back to global and then Pixel Experience since my device bootlooped after I depleted my battery one day.
Complementing the PE ROM again, my battery depleted one day and I just put it to recharge then everything worked as it should. (Traumatized by MIUI bootloops)
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Well for now iam on V13.0.3.0 SKLINXM Android 12. Would it be fine if I just install pixel recovery and then just install the pe rom. What's your thoughts on battery life of pe13 rom is it good like miui 13 or so and what are the major bugs.

Drewtaggart01 said:
Well for now iam on V13.0.3.0 SKLINXM Android 12. Would it be fine if I just install pixel recovery and then just install the pe rom. What's your thoughts on battery life of pe13 rom is it good like miui 13 or so and what are the major bugs.
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I'm using it since launch and it's holding down pretty good. The percentage drops "faster" (not a huge thing) apparently, but the phone withstand better on the latest 10%, I've noticed. And overall it lasts a whole day, and a bit of the next day morning (daily use, not gaming or any heavy task). If gaming, or some heavy task as, music, camera, video/photo editing, it drains more, but nothing out of the ordinary.

I will wait for it to be more stable for now or I'll try the final build.1 last thing to ask iam on miui 13.0.3.0 SKLINXM how should I go for installation of pe13 rom on my 10s? Plz let me know.
thanks.

Drewtaggart01 said:
I will wait for it to be more stable for now or I'll try the final build.1 last thing to ask iam on miui 13.0.3.0 SKLINXM how should I go for installation of pe13 rom on my 10s? Plz let me know.
thanks.
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Before I answer your question I'll ask something off topic. Does your phone gets some audio stuttering when listening to music?
Now to the question. First I ask to you, do you have a unlocked bootloader? Are you using any Custom Recovery?

Well i do get some stuttering when I listen songs on speaker.No i haven't unlocked my bootloader yet but i do have permissions of unlock.and iam on stable miui 13 v13.0.3.0 A12 Indian varient rom

Perfect. Before we start I want to say, I'm no professional, I'm just a enthusiastic user LOL.
First thing to do is backup your sensitive data (so much important)
Then unlock your bootloader, you can use the official ways (MI Bootloader Unlocker), no need to seek the MTK tool way, that is used for bricked phones and to avoid the timer.
After that you can use official MiFlash Tool to flash the Global MIUI 13 ROM. JUST REMEMBER TO CHECK in the inferior right side "flash_all" not the "flash_all_lock" otherwise you'll relock your phone after the flashing process (a huge pain).
Then I'd recommend installing a custom Recovery such as TWRP os Orange Fox (googling you'll find how to do, it's a 4 steps process, but you can find guides out there)
Then follow the PE guide on how to install, and you're good to go!