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Hi guys,
im thinking to buy the phone and as i use my phone in english my questions are:
1) once i load the google apps on the redmi k20 pro there are problems with notifications in chinese rom or others issues that are not there with global version?
2) can i uninstall ALL chinese based application without root etc?
3) Overall you consider it usable globally the Chinese rom if english is the user main language ? (i know about missing b20 i don't care)
thanks.
1. I have no issues with notifications. The problem with miui is that you have to spend time customizing the notifications as some don't even show up on the lockscreen for example by default. Once you customized it to your liking it's pretty alright.
2. I've removed almost all the bloat I can just by uninstalling them. The only ones leftover are the Chinese MI apps like wallet, ai, appstore. Everything seems to be fully in English for me.
3. Yes it's considered a usable ROM to use in English. I would say the appstore is a little annoying because any links to apps won't open in play store but will open in the appstore by default.
There's also a custom version of Miui provided on xiaomi.eu that has everything in English and is pretty good as it removes even system apps that aren't needed. You'll need an unlocked bootloader for that though
When you use the Chinese Rom will you receive all official updates from Redmi via OTA no matter where you are located in the world ?
manus31 said:
When you use the Chinese Rom will you receive all official updates from Redmi via OTA no matter where you are located in the world ?
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Yes, i live in indonesia. And ive received 2 ota updates so far
hi i'm going to buy a 8/128 red magic 3 from official website. im from italy and most probably it will ship with global rom
i really like the chinese rom especcially theme engine and gestures.
if i buy a global rm3 i want to have chinese rom with working tpwr root and pico gapps ( i read there are some problems with gmail and screen freezes)
any tutorial without brick the devices
what must i do?
i dont want to waste money
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hi i'm going to buy a 8/128 red magic 3 from official website. im from italy and most probably it will ship with global rom
i really like the chinese rom especcially theme engine and gestures.
if i buy a global rm3 i want to have chinese rom with working tpwr root and pico gapps ( i read there are some problems with gmail and screen freezes)
any tutorial without brick the devices
what must i do?
i dont want to waste money
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Hi,
It is really easy to from the Global ROM to the Chinese ROM or to go from Chinese ROM to Global ROM.
You should pay attention to some things :
- the Chinese ROM offers several languages (probably italian) but only a rare and few items are translated ; you mostly will have english settings and apps ;
- the Chinese ROM comes with a lot of useless crappy apps taht you can uninstall easily for most of them ;
- the themes aren't that great in the Theme Store... and the best ones are paid ones ;
- it is difficult to change the default launcher in the Chinses ROM...
It is really a pain to decide which ROM to use.
My advice is pretty simple : wait a bit and get yourself a OnePlus 7 or a OnePlus 7 Pro when it's price will have lowered a little...
This device is brilliant from the HW point of view.
But the software is so crippled you will only get mad at it...
I use it now only as a dedicated GPS. All other stuff : I do it on a device that has real software support (Rooted Mate 20x with Resurrection Remix installed).
Regards.
So I have bought a Mi 9T Pro Global ROM version and I am a bit lost on the whole official ROM versions
My current understanding of the ROMs:
Chinese version - Stock from Xiaomi, has an English mode but also has ads
Global version - ???
EU version - Custom ROM but aims to be as close to stock but without bloat and for EU userbase
EEA version - ???
Russian version - ???
India version - ???
Could anyone help me understand just what all this means and what I should ideally aim to stick with as someone living in the UK and wanting the best experience possible (No ads)
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So I have bought a Mi 9T Pro Global ROM version and I am a bit lost on the whole official ROM versions
My current understanding of the ROMs:
Chinese version - Stock from Xiaomi, has an English mode but also has ads
Global version - ???
EU version - Custom ROM but aims to be as close to stock but without bloat and for EU userbase
EEA version - ???
Russian version - ???
India version - ???
Could anyone help me understand just what all this means and what I should ideally aim to stick with as someone living in the UK and wanting the best experience possible (No ads)
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All the same structure same base miui thing just little differences
as i know china come with call recorder w/o NFC
Eu come without call recorder but with NFC
Rest i didnt test yet but i guess with some with some without
xiaomi.eu roms work in Europe and the US, as a replacement for global roms with more features (See some here https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/9-11-14.53327/)
xiaomi.eu roms also come with TWRP pre-installed and OTA updates
Chinese ROMs come with features like call recording that may not be entirely legal in other countries, as well as ads, tracking, and a few other things
Chinese and Indian ROMs typically come on the k20 pro, which lacks the bands that the mi 9t pro has (notably bands 4 for US and 20 for EU)
EEA Rom is the stock rom for Europe, while EU rom is the xiaomi.eu modified ROM for Europe (and Global)
Global ROM is the stock for international, but xiaomi.eu ROMs work perfectly on Global as well (See https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/bt6z7b/miui_global_rom_vs_eea_rom/)
Russian runs Global but with modifications for GPS, Privacy, and Language
Living in the UK, I'd suggest using a stable Xiaomi.eu rom with Magisk, which will give you root, no bloatware and ads, optimised GPS and battery, and OTA stable updates. I'm rather new as well so check this out for info on it, it could help! (https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/help/twrp-procedure-check-t4004531)
While all of the roms run MIUI, their stability, update frequency, bloatware, bands, and language can differ slightly.
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xiaomi.eu roms work....differ slightly.
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Thanks for the knowledge! Been interesting learning about them all. What I will most likely do once my device arrives is to wait for the bootloader unlock and test the EEA and if I dislike it, jump to xiaomi.eu
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Thanks...xiaomi.eu
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Good plan! Personally reason why I'm jumping straight to xiaomi.eu:
I don't think I'll DISLIKE Global, necessarily
But xiaomi.eu comes with TWRP preinstalled and root, and maintains Magisk even through OTA updates (Global/EEA removes TWRP and Magisk each time you update)
Just figured I'd share
If it's not Chinese MIUI, then Xiaomi label it as Global MIUI, as they all come with a full set of global language options.
Each version is then slightly modified for the region it is intended for. For EEA and Russia, I believe the modifications are more around complying with regulations, such as data protection, etc., rather than functional changes. For India, for this phone at least, the have replaced the stock launcher with the Poco Launcher, which has an app drawer (not sure if this is still true with MIUI 11), I guess this was in response to the popularity of the Poco F1 in India and the fact that this phone could be considered its successor there.
Xiaomi.eu are a collection of independent, volunteer developers, who make custom versions of MIUI. They've been around almost as long as Xiaomi themselves, from the days when MIUI was itself only a custom ROM, which only came in a Chinese version. The original aim was to add additional language translations. Now they add a full set of global languages, remove all ads, bloatware and non-essential apps, and add their own tweaks and customisations.
When it comes to EU, things get confusing. When it comes to naming MIUI versions, Xiaomi use 2 letter codes to distinguish the regions and use EU for Europe. Therefore you'll see people interchangeably use EU and EEA when talking about official European MIUI, this unfortunately leads to confusion as to whether people are referring to official MIUI or the unofficial xiaomi.eu ROMs
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If it's not Chinese MIUI, then Xiaomi label...
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Very informative! Thank you!
Hey,
So after being impressed for almost a year with the mi 10 ultra, I got myself the 11 Ultra yesterday. Bought in the Netherlands.
Immediately there was an update to 12.5.3 and installed and transfered everything.
After reading here I really thought I was gonna get the same hassle (bugs) and the need to install the EU custom ROM.
But after about 24 hours of use I noticed.
0 bugs
0 annoyances
The phone doesn't really get hot. Except maybe when I play league of legends on 120fps and 2k screen.
No notification bugs, battery seems decent. Camera amazing..
Anyone else just having a great experience? I don't think I see the need to flash the custom ROM.
I know the list of featured if the custom ROM seems long but I haven't noticed anything different from my 10 ultra custom EU rom.
hi this is how much i understand worth taking global eee rom mi 11 ultra or maybe better take mi 11pro?
I would take the mi 11 ultra over any phone.. and the global rom is pretty good
Original 12.5.3 EEA has some problems:
date on the rear display is shown as mm/dd even if the locale setting is dd/mm.
The date is correct in all the other parts of the UI (ex the lock screen)
Bluetooth smart unlock works only with Mi Bands. Doesn't work even with Mi Watch Lite and Xiaomi Handset Basic that I own.
Of course it doesn't work with any no-Xiaomi-made bluetooth devices (quite annoying indeed)
The Google dialer (the Xiaomi dialer is no longer available) has no call recording function.
Can't hide folders from the Gallery using the .nomedia file.
I got the mi 11 ultra 3 days ago and I'm on 12.0.5 . No new updates found .. even if I change my region to India for example no luck !
I'm in Germany. Any suggestions?
Basilio1982 said:
I got the mi 11 ultra 3 days ago and I'm on 12.0.5 . No new updates found .. even if I change my region to India for example no luck !
I'm in Germany. Any suggestions?
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RKAEUXM
danitaro said:
I would take the mi 11 ultra over any phone.. and the global rom is pretty good
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Why exactly? The camera of my previous phone was somehow better for me. The clouds and the ai of the camera application was way better.
I am talking about the Huawei mate 20 pro.
Afg Playa said:
Why exactly? The camera of my previous phone was somehow better for me. The clouds and the ai of the camera application was way better.
I am talking about the Huawei mate 20 pro.
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Love making selfies with the main camera using the little screen. Selfies look amazing like a whole different league from front facing selfies.
Also regular pictures I love how the look. So colorful.
The phone feels snappy fast and I haven't noticed any bugs. I have the feeling it works better than the custom EU rom i had on my.mi 10 ultra.
The only thing maybe is that the battery drains a bit faster but maybe it will still learn to work better and I do play a lot of league of legends wild rift at 2k so I guess it's normal
Basilio1982 said:
RKAEUXM
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You could try this:
✔ Mein Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra bekommt nicht die neueste Software angeboten
Hallo, welchen Sicherheitspatchstand habt ihr mit der Original in Deutschland gekauften Version? Welchen Softwarestand habt ihr?
www.android-hilfe.de
Hey, i wanted to change from Global 12.5.7 to EEA, but it didn't work, even fastboot didn't take.
Is there a guide how to do it?
Basilio1982 said:
I got the mi 11 ultra 3 days ago and I'm on 12.0.5 . No new updates found .. even if I change my region to India for example no luck !
I'm in Germany. Any suggestions?
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Mate I think you don't understand how XIAOMI Roms work. This isn't a Samsung device
Basilio1982 said:
I got the mi 11 ultra 3 days ago and I'm on 12.0.5 . No new updates found .. even if I change my region to India for example no luck !
I'm in Germany. Any suggestions?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you can load the fastboot EEA (European version). Just download the Xiaomi MiFlash tool. There are plenty of YouTube videos describing the process. There is also the Xiaomi.EU rom, which is the China rom, minus the Chinese bloat and Google services added in. That is a TWRP install and that is also link on their website.
I don't recommend to install the Xiaomi eu rom as it is not optimized for mi 11 ultra, apps load slower and since it is based on chinese rom it has chinese themes (if you like ur writings in chinese go for it), battery life is more or less the same, if you need to root I still suggest unlock your bootloader, if coming from standard global, unlocking your bootloader will allow you to update to the EEA firmware which is already based on the 12.5.3
xNAPx said:
I don't recommend to install the Xiaomi eu rom as it is not optimized for mi 11 ultra, apps load slower and since it is based on chinese rom it has chinese themes (if you like ur writings in chinese go for it), battery life is more or less the same, if you need to root I still suggest unlock your bootloader, if coming from standard global, unlocking your bootloader will allow you to update to the EEA firmware which is already based on the 12.5.3
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It is optimized as it virtually the same rom as the China rom, minus the bloat and Google services added in. There are features not available in the EEA rom that are in the China rom or the EU rom, such as, video recording using the rear display on 21.6.9 or the ability to record your calls, which is also not available on the EEA rom. These features are not available on the global rom either. So if you are a vlogger/content creator, the Xiaomi.eu rom is probably your best option.
Basilio1982 said:
I got the mi 11 ultra 3 days ago and I'm on 12.0.5 . No new updates found .. even if I change my region to India for example no luck !
I'm in Germany. Any suggestions?
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Hi there,
Unlock Bootloader and go to EEA 12.5.3 or higher. 12.0.XX is a pretty basic Android 11 ROM but many people like it. EEA visually looks better and so far no issues.
I had for a moment Android 12 Beta 1 installed but has returned to 12.5.3 because camera apps was missing.
Regards
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I don't recommend to install the Xiaomi eu rom as it is not optimized for mi 11 ultra, apps load slower and since it is based on chinese rom it has chinese themes (if you like ur writings in chinese go for it), battery life is more or less the same, if you need to root I still suggest unlock your bootloader, if coming from standard global, unlocking your bootloader will allow you to update to the EEA firmware which is already based on the 12.5.3
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There's an awfully lot less crap installed on Eu ROM by default and mine hasn't had Chinese writing in it since...... Ever
Not a single Character
speedtripler said:
There's an awfully lot less crap installed on Eu ROM by default and mine hasn't had Chinese writing in it since...... Ever
Not a single Character
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Same here on both 10 and 11 Ultra, no Chinese. Also, how is it not optimised for the 11 ultra when it is based on the stock Chinese 11 Ultra ROM? App loading time can be many of many reasons including your own apps you install from your own selection.
I have used the stock Chinese and Global ROMs on both Ultra's and my preference is for the EU custom ROM, I just think it has the best of all four available ROMs included and even as I use the weekly beta version, there has never been any show stoppers and any minor issues, as it is a beta version, get fixed quick. If you use a stable non EU version, you would have to wait for a few weeks to get it fixed and even longer with Global and EEA as their updates are packaged up in much fewer updates.
But it's everyone's own choice, but this is mine.
Guys whatsapp was loading ****ty slow, as well as tapatalk, I had 3 apps installed as personal, chinese themes lead to chinese characters, yes rom had some nice feature,but nothing I can't live without, both rom can be debloated and I find xiaomi eu full of useless stuff as well.
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Guys whatsapp was loading ****ty slow, as well as tapatalk, I had 3 apps installed as personal, chinese themes lead to chinese characters, yes rom had some nice feature,but nothing I can't live without, both rom can be debloated and I find xiaomi eu full of useless stuff as well.
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What's useless in Eu ROM ?
Lot of xiaomi services for example, I never understand why custom roms come with so much stuff preinstalled, they should leave just basic services and leave the user the ability to install the app and services they want. If they want to keep services and stuff they could still make different versions of the same rom
This experience thread is exclusively for users of a 12 Pro with Global EEA Rom.
Here you can discuss everything about the EEA version, bugs and other EEA specific user problems.
This is as well usable for locked and unlocked/rooted users.
The EEA Global is since April 18th on version V13.0.16.0.SLBEUXM.
New update for the 12 Pro EEA available.
Security Patch date May 1 2022.
Xiaomi 12 Pro EEA Stable beta V13.0.17.0 SLBEUXM Recovery Rom:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.17.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.17.0.SLBEUXM_ddb8257ea4_12.0.zip
Why create a new thread when there's already one available from long time?
[MIUI Updates Tracker] Xiaomi 12 Pro (zeus)
MIUI Updates Tracker (Xiaomi 12 Pro) What is MIUI Updates Tracker? An open-source project that automatically tracks Xiaomi MIUI ROM releases! MIUI Updates Tracker is a sibling project of Xiaomi Firmware Updater. Actually, XFU depends on it for...
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This experience thread is exclusively for users of a 12 Pro with Global EEA Rom
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Now the moderator has re-opened this thread we can go on discussing the 12 Pro EEA.
I managed to flash the full EEA Stable beta V13.0.17.0 SLBEUXM recovery rom by just using the option to update by choosing the update file I downloaded seperatly.
Android Security-update date is now 2022-05-01.
Looks everything is fine, it is rooted again and I am using Swift Backup (paid) instead of Titanium Backup since the latter one is not updated anymore since 2019 and it seems it won't be updated anymore.
Swift has a different modern layout and you can make the backup simultaniously or seperate to the device and/or cloud.
For now it works very well.
Also I use Callrecorder from Skavalex since the EEA rom does not support call-recording by itself.
Another thing is that there is atm no custom recovery that works with the 12 Pro or even Android 12 in general.
Since yesterday there is a new update for the Global EEA version.
The date of the security patch is still 1st of May so it is not clear what the changes are.
Will try to find out and post it here when available.
Download link for V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM_d7b9b704d3_12.0.zip
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Since yesterday there is a new update for the Global EEA version.
The date of the security patch is still 1st of May so it is not clear what the changes are.
Will try to find out and post it here when available.
Download link for V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM_d7b9b704d3_12.0.zip
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Version: V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM
Branch: Stable Beta
Type: Recovery
Size: 4.3 GB
Release Date: 2022-06-01
[System]
Updated Android Security Patch to May 2022. Increased system security
Anyone know what the differences are between the global rom vs. EEA global rom, the global hasn't gotten an update since April so thinking of switching to EEA... in Canada not Europe.... thanks
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Anyone know what the differences are between the global rom vs. EEA global rom, the global hasn't gotten an update since April so thinking of switching to EEA... in Canada not Europe.... thanks
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just RGPD.
Better than stock rom https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-13-stable-release.64441/
Well the EEA Global version differs due to the EU Privacy laws so no ads when you during the first setup of the device choose not to allow ads and afterwards you can still switch them off..
Further there is much less bloatware and the few apps that are defined as bloatware you can uninstall easily with ADB or with the XiaomiAdbflash tool.
There is no need for a custom rom like the xiaomi.eu rom because when you are unlocked it is quite easy to remove 99% of the apps you don't like but you can still get the monthly updates from Xiaomi themselves so no issues with camera and other kind of stuff compared with a custom rom.
Nowadays there is no real need for a custom rom because you can make the factory rom as clean as you want by yourself and eventually use apps like Blokada.
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Well the EEA Global version differs due to the EU Privacy laws so no ads when you during the first setup of the device choose not to allow ads and afterwards you can still switch them off..
Further there is much less bloatware and the few apps that are defined as bloatware you can uninstall easily with ADB or with the XiaomiAdbflash tool.
There is no need for a custom rom like the xiaomi.eu rom because when you are unlocked it is quite easy to remove 99% of the apps you don't like but you can still get the monthly updates from Xiaomi themselves so no issues with camera and other kind of stuff compared with a custom rom.
Nowadays there is no real need for a custom rom because you can make the factory rom as clean as you want by yourself and eventually use apps like Blokada.
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Try a Eu rom first then post your review.
Tried it on 2 previous Xiaomi phones and I stand with my opinion.
Been in the custom rom development since 2006 so I know what I am talking about.
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Tried it on 2 previous Xiaomi phones and I stand with my opinion.
Been in the custom rom development since 2006 so I know what I am talking about.
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And the call recorder, the complete themes + aod, the optimizations, a Chinese base etc...
BTW:the Xiaomi eu roms started in 2010.
Chinese MIUI has seemingly improved a lot, and seemed like most of the bloatware was removable when I was trying it. However MIUI and Xiaomi.eu still have that highly suspicious and deeply integrated "Security" app which I would prefer not to have at all. (Have not tried Global or EEA). (Additionally the xiaomi.eu "devs" (maybe not all, but seemingly the majority of them) have serious attitude issues which do not inspire any trust, and a lot of base apps in .EU still want unnecessary permissions and internet connections).
Would love to see Lineage for this phone, even if it means losing the MIUI camera - a choice of ROMs, especially very clean / basic ones, is not a bad thing
Xiaomi is a Chinese brand, EEA, Global, etc. roms are based on Chinese roms and adapted to countries according to the version.
Xiaomi Eu roms are custom roms based on the version of the phone on Chinese or global roms.
For those based on Chinese you will have features or options before xiaomi releases an update.
For example: the video for the calls does not exist on the stock roms except the Chinese ones.
It is a bit of a stretch to call the xiaomi.eu roms "custom" roms, and somewhat of an insult to true custom rom developers who develop the rom in the entirety. .eu roms are mildly modified Chinese MIUI ROMs and over the years there seems to be less and less modifications (at least in the phones I've tried them on). They are certainly useful for phones that are not officially launched globally and full google services is desired, without Chinese specific apps, but where official global or eea roms exist it may be better to go for the official EEA ROM (privacy wise, as another poster indicated) which would have everything necessary without all the telemetry, or alternatively full custom like Arrow / Lineage / Omni / Pixel Experience.
It is quite subjective though and if you prefer Chinese official or .eu ROM's and they do everything you want, then great. If they removed the Security thing & telemetry, or allowed the user to deny permissions while still being able to use certain apps, I would actually rate the Chinese ROM very highly. Right now I am undecided what is best, but hoping for Lineage in the near future.
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And the call recorder, the complete themes + aod, the optimizations, a Chinese base etc...
BTW:the Xiaomi eu roms started in 2010.
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Call Recorder worked already on rooted stok rom with Skavalex Call Recorder which I use for many years now even way before Xiaomi came into the play arena of phones.
Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself and stock Camera is better than Gcam.
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Call Recorder worked already on rooted stok rom with Skavalex Call Recorder which I use for many years now even way before Xiaomi came into the play arena of phones.
Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself and stock Camera is better than Gcam.
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We are talking about Xiaomi eu ROMs that do not need root to have the call recorder.
And it's not Skavalex but Skvalex who It's not free.
"Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself"
Which?
I am talking about official Global EEA and the latter one is point of discussion in this thread and not any other rom.
Optimizations like getting rid of all the apps you do not like, get rid of the few (Xiaomi) apps that eventually will "call home" when you not want it, when not selected at 1st setup that you allow no ads you will get no ads.
When unlocked and rooted I can do with it as much as with any other custom rom but keep the monthly official updates.
So no need for custom rom's and yes it is Skvalex and I have a paid version for it (few bucks) many years ago and he still maintains the app.