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Hey guys,
I am thinking to get a Z1, I am not living in the US (I live in Hong Kong) and here're my options:
- Asia Version (not Japan/Hong Kong/China)
Concern:
The quality (Some says the quality isn't as good)
The firmware upgrade (maybe they will come slower)
- USA version
Concern:
It needs unlocking
Both of which are same price, which is around $150 cheaper than every other version.
So my questions are:
Is unlocking the carrier lock difficult/unsafe?
I don't plan to use it for 4G. Is there anything else I should be aware of when I look to buy a Z1?
thanks for reading anyway, hope to get some answers to help me out
etismyname said:
Hey guys,
I am thinking to get a Z1, I am not living in the US (I live in Hong Kong) and here're my options:
- Asia Version (not Japan/Hong Kong/China)
Concern:
The quality (Some says the quality isn't as good)
The firmware upgrade (maybe they will come slower)
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Don't buy it.
etismyname said:
- USA version
Concern:
It needs unlocking
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Buy Unbranded, it not need to be unlocked.
etismyname said:
Both of which are same price, which is around $150 cheaper than every other version.
So my questions are:
Is unlocking the carrier lock difficult/unsafe?
I don't plan to use it for 4G. Is there anything else I should be aware of when I look to buy a Z1?
thanks for reading anyway, hope to get some answers to help me out
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Unlocking is very easy and safe, and will be unlocked permanently.
thanks but I can't find a cheap unbranded Z1, they cost just as much as the Hong Kong version.
I guess US version is the safer option to go then?
eclyptos said:
Unlocking is very easy and safe, and will be unlocked permanently.
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It's worth knowing that until Sony fixes it, there is a problem with the camera breaking when the bootloader is unlocked.
akselic said:
It's worth knowing that until Sony fixes it, there is a problem with the camera breaking when the bootloader is unlocked.
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He was saing about Carrer Lock. So I do not mentioned that. They have nothing in common. Unlock Bootloader is necessary only to flash custom roms with custom kernels.That's all.
eclyptos said:
He was saing about Carrer Lock. So I do not mentioned that. They have nothing in common. Unlock Bootloader is necessary only to flash custom roms with custom kernels.That's all.
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Thanks for the correction, I misunderstood
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there. It's a hit or miss on a good or sucky unit
brapicoco said:
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there. It's a hit or miss on a good or sucky unit
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Where?
brapicoco said:
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there.
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What are you talking about? Where? When? Avoid this kind of bad information please, is not good for a life of a forum.
My Z1 is perfect and I have never had a better phone.
Go ahead with it. :good:
88Mike said:
What are you talking about? Where? When? Avoid this kind of bad information please, is not good for a life of a forum.
My Z1 is perfect and I have never had a better phone.
Go ahead with it. :good:
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Seems like you are misinformed about the problems out there. Why dont you try visiting the sony forums and see for yourself.
I got mine fromm Singapore, is it Asia version? Dunno anyhow its provlem free except for the touch ossue that everyone have...
Screen is pretty, great blacks, device runs fast and and doesnt over heat. My serial is bh90l... Is that Asia version?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
so i have made my decision to just buy the japanese version.
The screen apparently is more red (he showed me a hk version and a japanese version) which I like a bit more.
It comes with a charging dock and a 32GB internal memory which I like a lot.
Problem:
Updating can get very troublesome, I think I will have to stuck with the not so good firmware (comes with the .534 firmware and not the .213, what's worse is that I don't think i will ever get the .213)
other than that, the phone is perfect, I am still playing around with the camera thoguh
shteren said:
I got mine fromm Singapore, is it Asia version? Dunno anyhow its provlem free except for the touch ossue that everyone have...
Screen is pretty, great blacks, device runs fast and and doesnt over heat. My serial is bh90l... Is that Asia version?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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my device is from SG and is suffering from touch screen problem mine BH90B
If I will know I will have such problem with a High End Flagship Device I will never buy it, F..K!
This is bad, so the Flagship Device is coming to be a Crap Device
I got screen issue and we can't unlock the Booloader, camera will be broken.
Bad Batch?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564985
Hello everyone, as the title explain, i'm just before buying a used Oneplus 3 (originally bought in Germany) and i'm really not sure, what to check for. (for example at MI5 there is the GPS problem, which if a knew before, i could have checked it before i bought)
Is there anything similar with this phone? Were there know hardware bugs with certain models?
Can i somehow check based on serial with Oneplus?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Hello everyone, as the title explain, i'm just before buying a used Oneplus 3 (originally bought in Germany) and i'm really not sure, what to check for. (for example at MI5 there is the GPS problem, which if a knew before, i could have checked it before i bought)
Is there anything similar with this phone? Were there know hardware bugs with certain models?
Can i somehow check based on serial with Oneplus?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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I bought mine couple days ago (used) and everything is fine
Check the following:
1. If the other guy has bought it over the official OnePlus site (very important)
2. Check if the device has locked bootloader or not
3. Check for scratches on the Camera
4. Try pressing the screen a little bit hard to see if it has any flex or weird reaction (He may has changed the screen who knows???)
5. General testing (FP, Calling ETC)
No bugs with certain models (as far as I know)
t-shock said:
I bought mine couple days ago (used) and everything is fine
Check the following:
1. If the other guy has bought it over the official OnePlus site (very important)
2. Check if the device has locked bootloader or not
3. Check for scratches on the Camera
4. Try pressing the screen a little bit hard to see if it has any flex or weird reaction (He may has changed the screen who knows???)
5. General testing (FP, Calling ETC)
No bugs with certain models (as far as I know)
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Thank you very much for your fast reply!
1. Could you advice me further, how to check if it has been bought from the OnePlus site?
2. For the bootloader check does the keypad mode work (*#*#7378423#*#*), or shall i bring a laptop?
thanks again.
zsoltpopa said:
Thank you very much for your fast reply!
1. Could you advice me further, how to check if it has been bought from the OnePlus site?
2. For the bootloader check does the keypad mode work (*#*#7378423#*#*), or shall i bring a laptop?
thanks again.
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You're welcome
You can see check by checking on the receipt. It should have a order number and everything should look legit
No you don't. Just power off the phone and then power it up by pressing the Vol UP + Power button
I'm in the UK selling mine. Perfect condition, a few users of XDA can vouch for me too. PM if interested. It's had tempered glass and a case on the entire time.
ritchiedrama said:
I'm in the UK selling mine. Perfect condition, a few users of XDA can vouch for me too. PM if interested. It's had tempered glass and a case on the entire time.
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Buying the 3t mate..??
geekynoob said:
Buying the 3t mate..??
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If I can sell this, yeah otherwise -- no - can't afford it if this doesn't sell.
ritchiedrama said:
If I can sell this, yeah otherwise -- no - can't afford it if this doesn't sell.
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I have a person who wants to buy mine.. Then there's difference lol.. Let's see if we keep talking here.. Or in the 3t forums..
geekynoob said:
I have a person who wants to buy mine.. Then there's difference lol.. Let's see if we keep talking here.. Or in the 3t forums..
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I can't find anyone \o>
Hello there, beginner here, my current phone note 5 motherboard was dead, (checked by phone shop). I'm learning to fix my phone by myself. But I found out there's little different between logic board model and its price.
I would like to have senior advice about the effect, will it affect the phone function to make calls if I insist to buy the cheap logic board to use back the phone?
Appreciate for any replies and helps!
Thank You!
XL23lol said:
Hello there, beginner here, my current phone note 5 motherboard was dead, (checked by phone shop). I'm learning to fix my phone by myself. But I found out there's little different between logic board model and its price.
I would like to have senior advice about the effect, will it affect the phone function to make calls if I insist to buy the cheap logic board to use back the phone?
Appreciate for any replies and helps!
Thank You!
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I'm about to attempt something similar, once the parts are delivered. N920C board into a N920W8 body. So i'll let you know how it goes if you are still interested. That would be in the first week of june tho
m.jordan89 said:
I'm about to attempt something similar, once the parts are delivered. N920C board into a N920W8 body. So i'll let you know how it goes if you are still interested. That would be in the first week of june tho
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Alright man, I think i have the time to wait, hope u able to success for it!
m.jordan89 said:
I'm about to attempt something similar, once the parts are delivered. N920C board into a N920W8 body. So i'll let you know how it goes if you are still interested. That would be in the first week of june tho
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Hi man, how're you doing? is the phone function able with different motherboard?
Oh crap, as soon as i saw the notification i remembered you
Yeah everything works perfect, no issues or hiccups.
Hi,
A week ago I was using my < 4 months old Zenfone 8 while traveling in Germany, and at 19% battery the screen turned black. I went back home, tried charging it for as long as possible, it was staying cold and never showed any sign of life.
So I opened a RMA on Asus Belgium website (as I am from Belgium), and shipped the phone to their repair center.
Today, I got an email from them, saying that the warranty wasn't covering the damage, and that I had to pay 500,28€ for a replacement of the motherboard.
When going into their OOW website, I saw this table :
Warranty start:2021-05-16Warranty end:2023-05-15Issue date:2021-09-13Receive date:2021-09-15Charge reason:OOWCustomer agree to quotation:Charge reason:OOW - Out of warranty ASUS Product Unlock Flag-oow scratched
It seems to me that the "unlock flag" is their bootloader unlock tool, that I had indeed used to root the phone before, and wanted to try a few custom ROM - which I actually never did since there were none at the time. Of course, this is completely unrelated to the issue, as it is not even rooted anymore and I basically did nothing with it.
As I am from the EU, I saw that there are laws that protect consumers from these types of abusive behaviors from companies, as explained here https://piana.eu/root/
I am therefore
1) looking for people who had this problem with their Zenfone 8 (what is it actually? never seen a brand new phone die like this)
2) looking for people who had their warranty denied for an unlocked bootloader in the EU, and what is possible to do
Thank you very much for your attention and for your help
There loads of people that has the same bricked state:
ZenFone8 stuck on waiting for flashing full ramdump
As requested by the mod - opening new discussion for the issue. The Flashing Full Ramdump happened to me too - the phone was being charged over the night and the error was waiting when I woke up. I hope that at least your service will fix it quickly.
zentalk.asus.com
I had it on my 1st ZF8, complety dead. Sent it for repair but ASUS refunded it.
2nd one seems resistent to this bug, rooted, flashed all kinds of roms etc, ended in ramdump state but can always boot to fastboot.
NisseGurra said:
There loads of people that has the same bricked state:
ZenFone8 stuck on waiting for flashing full ramdump
As requested by the mod - opening new discussion for the issue. The Flashing Full Ramdump happened to me too - the phone was being charged over the night and the error was waiting when I woke up. I hope that at least your service will fix it quickly.
zentalk.asus.com
I had it on my 1st ZF8, complety dead. Sent it for repair but ASUS refunded it.
2nd one seems resistent to this bug, rooted, flashed all kinds of roms etc, ended in ramdump state but can always boot to fastboot.
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I've seen that but I'm not sure it's the exact same state, as for me it didn't even display anything anymore. Also, did Asus refund you even with your bootloader unlocked?
flolaff said:
I've seen that but I'm not sure it's the exact same state, as for me it didn't even display anything anymore. Also, did Asus refund you even with your bootloader unlocked?
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Yes, it was bootloader unlocked.
You can also check state when you plug it to computer, even with dark screen.
Check what the usb connection says in device manager
NisseGurra said:
Yes, it was bootloader unlocked.
You can also check state when you plug it to computer, even with dark screen.
Check what the usb connection says in device manager
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Yeah I tried it back when I had the phone (since it’s now hostage at Asus) and nothing showed up in the device manager
So update: After a bit of back and forth emailing, I finally got an answer: « Im really sorry but our answer will not change. By using the unlock tool you have agreed that the warranty will be dropped, no matter what problem you are experiencing and regardless of how the problem arose. »
So basically they openly agree that they are scamming me of 500€ after selling me a faulty device, but thanks to an abusive clause, they think they can do it.
Great customer service, always a pleasure to give business to such a great company as Asus… I’ll get my lawyer involved now, anyone who has advices on the legal process in the EU is very welcome.
Seem to be some hardware fault with the 1st batch. Really bad customer response from asus, loads of reports of dying zf8's now
NisseGurra said:
Seem to be some hardware fault with the 1st batch. Really bad customer response from asus, loads of reports of dying zf8's now
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What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue
Blumi511 said:
What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue
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256GB that died, new 128GB is ok
NisseGurra said:
256GB that died, new 128GB is ok
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I really hope my small 128 GB phone won't have this issue. I really like this phone...
There are reports on Zentalk forums of both 128 and 256 models dying
We are basically all held in suspense wondering if our phones will die or not. Personally, I have a second phone (Xperia z5 premium) that is fully set up and I can easily switch in case of problems, but it is still not a nice feeling
Possible battery failure. Inspect.
I dont think its battery fail, seems more likely that storage or RAM gets corrupt, the 1st state is
"waiting for flashing full ramdump". I have this state on my 2nd zf8 but can always reboot to fastboot. That was not the case on the first unit
blackhawk said:
Possible battery failure. Inspect.
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Ramdump is a battery failure?
assasss said:
Ramdump is a battery failure?
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If you already found the cause disregard...
blackhawk said:
If you already found the cause disregard...
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I haven't found the cause. My phone is working normally.
However people on Zentalk forums which have sent their phones for repair have reported that the service report has information that motherboard was replaced. I can't confirm or deny this
Blumi511 said:
What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue
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Was the 128GB model for me, we still don’t know what the issue is.
If I can’t get the phone fixed the legal way I think I’ll pay the 60€ to get it back unrepaired (because yes, I have to pay for that) and open it myself to try and find the issue. Maybe I’ll be more competent than their lame service at identifying the issue
flolaff said:
Was the 128GB model for me, we still don’t know what the issue is.
If I can’t get the phone fixed the legal way I think I’ll pay the 60€ to get it back unrepaired (because yes, I have to pay for that) and open it myself to try and find the issue. Maybe I’ll be more competent than their lame service at identifying the issue
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Oh man I feel sorry for you. In Germany, they'd have to prove it was not their fault in the first 6 month after buying
Blumi511 said:
Oh man I feel sorry for you. In Germany, they'd have to prove it was not their fault in the first 6 month after buying
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I know, it’s the exact same law here in Belgium but they don’t care…
22 dead zf8 so far in the asus forum thread. #asusZF8DeadGate
Hi,
my device does not power on neither is detect when plugged via USB or when plugged to charger.
I've already tried holding power button, power button + vol UP/down and nothing happens.
It had 60% of charge when it happened.
Now I'm just waiting to the battery completely dies to try to charge it again.
Or is there another command to reset it ?
Thanks
Try a hard reboot, hold power button for 10-15 seconds or disconnect the battery.
blackhawk said:
Try a hard reboot, hold power button for 10-15 seconds or disconnect the battery.
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Just tried. Didn't work.
zopostyle said:
Just tried. Didn't work.
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Hardware failure. Maybe the battery, the C port pcb, a loose connector or the mobo, in roughly that order.
Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
zopostyle said:
Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
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May just be the battery. Any swelling is a failure but may fail without swelling. Older, degraded batteries are more likely to fail.
Try inspecting the ribbon cable jack pins. Simply detaching them then reattaching them is all it takes.
zopostyle said:
Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
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You took it apart?? What about RMA? Doubt you'll be able to send it in now.
dladz said:
You took it apart?? What about RMA? Doubt you'll be able to send it in now.
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Yeah if under warranty put it together and send it in.
There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
zopostyle said:
There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
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I thought that was the case, but I should have asked you that first. If you can't find the problem try taking it to a local repair shop. It may not be as bad as it seems. Could be a bad C port pcb which are cheap.
zopostyle said:
There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
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That can't be true...they should pay for shipping and if not it's not going to cost more than £800 to send it there is it??
I cannot believe that to be true at all.
dladz said:
That can't be true...they should pay for shipping and if not it's not going to cost more than £800 to send it there is it??
I cannot believe that to be true at all.
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It will be close. Here in Brazil we have to pay taxes and import fees. So if I sent it it will cost (doing conversion) around 45usd shipping,+ 10 for insurance.
Then to get it back is about 60% of the product price to import it back + the service to get it fix.
So buying a new one it better, but I've already decided not buying OnePlus again the lack of tools to let us manage the phone was the real issue here... And also all the posts that users getting their phones bricked, even with beta android 13, how a company release something that a user can't go back in an easy way?
Sorry but OnePlus was nice, now it's just company and less users..
zopostyle said:
It will be close. Here in Brazil we have to pay taxes and import fees. So if I sent it it will cost (doing conversion) around 45usd shipping,+ 10 for insurance.
Then to get it back is about 60% of the product price to import it back + the service to get it fix.
So buying a new one it better, but I've already decided not buying OnePlus again the lack of tools to let us manage the phone was the real issue here... And also all the posts that users getting their phones bricked, even with beta android 13, how a company release something that a user can't go back in an easy way?
Sorry but OnePlus was nice, now it's just company and less users..
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That's insane, I feel for you.. Maybe there's a way to skip to another location in order to reduce the price
And I agree. This will be my last OnePlus device for sure. I was toying with the idea of getting the nothing phone. Slower SOC but it looks amazing all the same
Just got the device in EDL mode. Now just need to find the full image for NE2213 in OPS format that is the one that MSM Tool needs. Anyone has any ideia ?
PS: Already tried to use the decrypt and encrypt tool to generate but I don't have the correct settings.xml file for this device.
And now I found out that V2.0.67 or V3 can read .ofp file...but those version require username/password.
zopostyle said:
Just got the device in EDL mode. Now just need to find the full image for NE2213 in OPS format that is the one that MSM Tool needs. Anyone has any ideia ?
PS: Already tried to use the decrypt and encrypt tool to generate but I don't have the correct settings.xml file for this device.
And now I found out that V2.0.67 or V3 can read .ofp file...but those version require username/password.
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Msm tool is locked down. It requires a technicians username and password. It also requires a phone home.
There's one loser whos going around selling stolen credentials for Msm. Hate to say it, but that might be your best bet?
Thanks, but not gonna pay a cent... If people starts to pay then we'll never get the tool for free.
So I prefer to lose the device or just keep it stored until the tool is available.
For the time being I'm back to my mi 10t.
And if the time for the phone support ends, just going to buy Samsung or htc if they get back on business
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Thanks, but not gonna pay a cent... If people starts to pay then we'll never get the tool for free.
So I prefer to lose the device or just keep it stored until the tool is available.
For the time being I'm back to my mi 10t.
And if the time for the phone support ends, just going to buy Samsung or htc if they get back on business
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Admirable. Good luck with Samsung. Wish their bootloader's we're unlockable in the states. Otherwise I'd ditch oneplus too
Ph0nysk1nk said:
Admirable. Good luck with Samsung. Wish their bootloader's we're unlockable in the states. Otherwise I'd ditch oneplus too
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it is
g96818 said:
it is
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Now this... This is news to me. Able to elaborate on this a bit more? Every Samsung I've had the bootloader couldn't be unlocked. Even the U variants.
What magic tricks do you have?
Ph0nysk1nk said:
Now this... This is news to me. Able to elaborate on this a bit more? Every Samsung I've had the bootloader couldn't be unlocked. Even the U variants.
What magic tricks do you have?
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Don't but the locked variant