The speaker is decent. It even has good volume.
Iff you've got the tablet facing away from you!
This is really terrible placement of the speaker on this device. It's not a speaker for ringing as on a phone. It's a speaker that's meant to be heard when the tablet is in use with the display facing you. Cupping my hand over the speaker slit and extending that beyond the edge of the tablet works ... but isn't something you can really expect or want to do.
That's probably my biggest gripe with the tablet.
The screen isn't the best but.. I'll take it for the money.
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
I wish manufacturers would figure out a way to have forward-facing speakers... my G2x has a speaker on the bottom. Better, but seriously... watching a YouTube clip without cupping my hand around the device to reflect the sound to my face would be a nice change. Meh... not that big of a deal to me but I do agree with your frustration.
It seems simple to me, there is already a bevel on these devices. They just need to make the bevel a little bit larger on the side to let the sound out. This is what my TV does and it works very well.
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I was looking at the design and from a "why did they do it that way?" perspective and two things are clear.
1. they want to present the face of the tablet as an unbroken sheet of glass (ohh, ahh!)
2. they don't want to incur the cost of putting a slit in the glass
They could reduce the size of the glass and have a very narrow molded plastic border on the top and bottom for stereo speakers. Would work a heck of a lot better but violate #1...
I really think they're destroying functionality for aesthetics.
Playbook (though bigger) does have forward facing speakers, and are probably the best sound that I've heard on a tablet mainly due to the placement.
its more so because on most phones, the microphone is at the bottom. putting a speaker next to a microphone never ends well. mainly because on calls where you use loud speaker, you'd get the endless loop/echo where the speaker feeds their audio back into the microphone. noise cancelling mics are useless for cancelling the audio since the noise cancelling mic is too far away from the speaker, so the latency doesnt help.
I somehow think putting a magnet aka speaker on the screen would cause problems with the capacitive touch.
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It sucks when you put the 7 on a stand and it is blocking the speaker and muffing the sound. But what can you do? Plug in some headphones that's what.
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Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Wait. What?! Can you provide a photo comparison of your device next to a iPad. This display has hardly any saturation or contrast compared to the iPad. The DAC in this thing is also horrid; audio sounds extremely bad with headphones. A world away from the Galaxy S III DAC.
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Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Well, I have both an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7, and while I like the Nexus 7 screen well enough, it doesn't really compare to the iPad's. Colors and saturation aren't even close, and nothing has text as good as the iPad (I think it's as much to do with how Android renders text as the resolution of the LCD). Don't get me wrong, text on the Nexus 7 is plenty good enough, but you can't say it's nearly as good as on the iPad.
My biggest problem with audio on the Nexus 7, both external and via headphones, is volume. It just doesn't get very loud. That's a complaint with the iPad 3, however, and really I have yet to come across a tablet with decent sound. So, that's not a fair knock against the Nexus 7.
Just curious. How is the sound quality on your Moto X? Does it provide a flat response?
How about Bluetooth quality?
And finally how does the sound chip compare in quality to an iPhone 5? Especially THX.
again just curious
I don't know about bluetooth but the speaker was surprisingly good. It was loud, but still clear. The headphones sound quality is good to but for some reason it is kind of quiet. But it isn't that big a deal because I can just turn up the volume.
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Just curious. How is the sound quality on your Moto X? Does it provide a flat response?
How about Bluetooth quality?
And finally how does the sound chip compare in quality to an iPhone 5? Especially THX.
again just curious
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I have both the iphone 5 and moto x.
Sound quality is comparable in both loudspeaker and headphone out, in my LIMITED experience. I'm testing it more now, will post with my findings.
It also has a built in EQ, which is enabled by default with some weird bass preset. Set it to flat or disable it and it sounds good, farely neutral like iphone 5.
The headphone volume however is not as good as iphone 5. It's maybe 80-85% of iphone 5. The loudspeaker volume however is excellent, slightly better then iphone 5.
You might need a portable amp for higher impedance headphones but for low impedance ones and IEM's, it's sufficient.
I'll test some more soon as I figure out why my room smells like weed.
Testing with:
Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 80 OHM headphone
Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro headphone
Hippo VB IEM
Atrio MG7 IEM
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I have both the iphone 5 and moto x.
Sound quality is comparable in both loudspeaker and headphone out, in my LIMITED experience. I'm testing it more now, will post with my findings.
It also has a built in EQ, which is enabled by default with some weird bass preset. Set it to flat or disable it and it sounds good, farely neutral like iphone 5.
The headphone volume however is not as good as iphone 5. It's maybe 80-85% of iphone 5. The loudspeaker volume however is excellent, slightly better then iphone 5.
You might need a portable amp for higher impedance headphones but for low impedance ones and IEM's, it's sufficient.
I'll test some more soon as I figure out why my room smells like weed.
Testing with:
Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 80 OHM headphone
Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro headphone
Hippo VB IEM
Atrio MG7 IEM
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Wow thanks! Can't wait, I'm just waiting for the X to come out for T-Mobile so until then. I wonder why the EQ is enabled by default, if I'm correct disabling it made it much louder no? For headphones, volume could be an issue then again...my ears.
As for the weed smell, that could just be some clothes laying around
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I don't know about bluetooth but the speaker was surprisingly good. It was loud, but still clear. The headphones sound quality is good to but for some reason it is kind of quiet. But it isn't that big a deal because I can just turn up the volume.
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Thanks man, the headphones thing might be scary haha.
DT 770 Pro 80ohm performance:
I mention this headphone first because a lot of portable devices have trouble driving them properly. The bass quantity and overall volume starts to suffer when used on weaker devices. The headphone has a slight characteristic of the bass bleeding into the mids (nowhere near as much as consumer headphones).
Moto X:
Volume: 7.5/10 acceptable levels, wish it had a bit more oomph.
Highs: 8.6/10 still has good clarity but the lesser volume (compared to ip5) hurts it a bit
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 6.7/10, I find it a bit lacking here. I wouldn't go crazy if this setup was my daily driver though
Sub Bass: 6.5/10, not sufficient. You can tell it's there but I'm not impressed whatsoever
Iphone 5:
Volume: 9/10 highs are almost at the limit of what my ears can tolerate
Highs: 8.9/10 tad more clarity then moto x
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 7.5/10 this is close to the limit of what smartphones can push bass quantity on these headphones.
Sub Bass: 9/10, I can definitely feel the rumble in my jaw.
My baseline is based on driving them from Asus Xonar STX dedicated sound card with built in amp (up to 600ohm supposedly).
Atrio MG7 IEM performance:
This probably my most "neutral" sounding headphone/iem. Strong sub bass, mid bass a bit recessed. Mids and highs pretty clear.
Moto X:
Volume: 10/10, as loud as I need it
Highs: 9/10
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 8.5/10
Sub Bass: 8/10
Note: reverb is a bit better then iphone 5
Iphone 5:
Volume: 10/10 the max level is a bit too loud for me, one step down is perfect
Highs: 8.5/10 can get a bit harsh at times
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 9.2/10
Sub Bass: 9/10
Both provide an enjoyable experience with low impedance heaphones/IEM's with the iphone 5 edging a bit in the bass department. When moving on to higher impedance headphones, both devices are underpowered (as expected from smartphones) but the iphone 5 did a lot better here. Both did not have the power to provide enough bass on my DT770 headphones due to its higher impedance.
Overall listening experience I would say they are pretty similar, with the iphone edging slightly for bass heavy music like dubstep/dnb/trap/hip hop. For most other types of music they are about the same. I'm inclined to say I like the iPhone 5 better in terms of audio quality. I'm quite the basshead.
Disclaimer: I am not an audiophile, these are only my opinions =)
Edit: loudspeaker is louder on Moto X, clearer on iphone 5. I would rate Moto X 8/10 and iphone 5 9/10 here.
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DT 770 Pro 80ohm performance:
I mention this headphone first because a lot of portable devices have trouble driving them properly. The bass quantity and overall volume starts to suffer when used on weaker devices. The headphone has a slight characteristic of the bass bleeding into the mids (nowhere near as much as consumer headphones).
Moto X:
Volume: 7.5/10 acceptable levels, wish it had a bit more oomph.
Highs: 8.6/10 still has good clarity but the lesser volume (compared to ip5) hurts it a bit
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 6.7/10, I find it a bit lacking here. I wouldn't go crazy if this setup was my daily driver though
Sub Bass: 6.5/10, not sufficient. You can tell it's there but I'm not impressed whatsoever
Iphone 5:
Volume: 9/10 highs are almost at the limit of what my ears can tolerate
Highs: 8.9/10 tad more clarity then moto x
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 7.5/10 this is close to the limit of what smartphones can push bass quantity on these headphones.
Sub Bass: 9/10, I can definitely feel the rumble in my jaw.
My baseline is based on driving them from Asus Xonar STX dedicated sound card with built in amp (up to 600ohm supposedly).
Atrio MG7 IEM performance:
This probably my most "neutral" sounding headphone/iem. Strong sub bass, mid bass a bit recessed. Mids and highs pretty clear.
Moto X:
Volume: 10/10, as loud as I need it
Highs: 9/10
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 8.5/10
Sub Bass: 8/10
Note: reverb is a bit better then iphone 5
Iphone 5:
Volume: 10/10 the max level is a bit too loud for me, one step down is perfect
Highs: 8.5/10 can get a bit harsh at times
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 9.2/10
Sub Bass: 9/10
Both provide an enjoyable experience with low impedance heaphones/IEM's with the iphone 5 edging a bit in the bass department. When moving on to higher impedance headphones, both devices are underpowered (as expected from smartphones) but the iphone 5 did a lot better here. Both did not have the power to provide enough bass on my DT770 headphones due to its higher impedance.
Overall listening experience I would say they are pretty similar, with the iphone edging slightly for bass heavy music like dubstep/dnb/trap/hip hop. For most other types of music they are about the same. I'm inclined to say I like the iPhone 5 better in terms of audio quality. I'm quite the basshead.
Disclaimer: I am not an audiophile, these are only my opinions =)
Edit: loudspeaker is louder on Moto X, clearer on iphone 5. I would rate Moto X 8/10 and iphone 5 9/10 here.
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Wow! Thank You Thank You so much for this short detailed review. It has help me determine the quality on this phone. And will help others looking into it. I suppose it would be best to have an iPod alongside the Moto X huh?
Anyway Thanks so much. If I'm reading this correctly, it also means it's on par with the Nexus 7 (2012) sound quality. Which is little sad. I can hope that bluetooth sound quality will be just as good as my iPhone 5.
Man, what would it take for manufactures to focus on all parts of a phone. Moto X was so close.
This is the one thing I'm most interested in. I currently have an HTC One and I'm thinking of switching to the Moto X. The HTC One sounds great in my car. I had a Note 2, and after rooting and loading a custom kernel, it sounded great! However, stock, it sounded terrible. Wish I knew someone with one to test it out!!
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This is the one thing I'm most interested in. I currently have an HTC One and I'm thinking of switching to the Moto X. The HTC One sounds great in my car. I had a Note 2, and after rooting and loading a custom kernel, it sounded great! However, stock, it sounded terrible. Wish I knew someone with one to test it out!!
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One has clearer sound, Moto x is louder though.
Hmmm what to do...
I just don't want it to sound "tinny" (if that makes sense)
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DT 770 Pro 80ohm performance:
I mention this headphone first because a lot of portable devices have trouble driving them properly. The bass quantity and overall volume starts to suffer when used on weaker devices. The headphone has a slight characteristic of the bass bleeding into the mids (nowhere near as much as consumer headphones).
Moto X:
Volume: 7.5/10 acceptable levels, wish it had a bit more oomph.
Highs: 8.6/10 still has good clarity but the lesser volume (compared to ip5) hurts it a bit
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 6.7/10, I find it a bit lacking here. I wouldn't go crazy if this setup was my daily driver though
Sub Bass: 6.5/10, not sufficient. You can tell it's there but I'm not impressed whatsoever
Iphone 5:
Volume: 9/10 highs are almost at the limit of what my ears can tolerate
Highs: 8.9/10 tad more clarity then moto x
Mids: 9/10, the device does not have enough power to push the bass so much that it bleeds into mids
Bass: 7.5/10 this is close to the limit of what smartphones can push bass quantity on these headphones.
Sub Bass: 9/10, I can definitely feel the rumble in my jaw.
My baseline is based on driving them from Asus Xonar STX dedicated sound card with built in amp (up to 600ohm supposedly).
Atrio MG7 IEM performance:
This probably my most "neutral" sounding headphone/iem. Strong sub bass, mid bass a bit recessed. Mids and highs pretty clear.
Moto X:
Volume: 10/10, as loud as I need it
Highs: 9/10
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 8.5/10
Sub Bass: 8/10
Note: reverb is a bit better then iphone 5
Iphone 5:
Volume: 10/10 the max level is a bit too loud for me, one step down is perfect
Highs: 8.5/10 can get a bit harsh at times
Mids: 9/10
Bass: 9.2/10
Sub Bass: 9/10
Both provide an enjoyable experience with low impedance heaphones/IEM's with the iphone 5 edging a bit in the bass department. When moving on to higher impedance headphones, both devices are underpowered (as expected from smartphones) but the iphone 5 did a lot better here. Both did not have the power to provide enough bass on my DT770 headphones due to its higher impedance.
Overall listening experience I would say they are pretty similar, with the iphone edging slightly for bass heavy music like dubstep/dnb/trap/hip hop. For most other types of music they are about the same. I'm inclined to say I like the iPhone 5 better in terms of audio quality. I'm quite the basshead.
Disclaimer: I am not an audiophile, these are only my opinions =)
Edit: loudspeaker is louder on Moto X, clearer on iphone 5. I would rate Moto X 8/10 and iphone 5 9/10 here.
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So when it comes to hip hop rap music, so you think the bass is good? Or good enough? Or not enough?
Unboxing experience and Build Quality Coming from an HTC One M9 device, a luxurious phone with gold rails on the sides at a hefty $650 price tag at launch, I was too skeptical about what can a $400 offer to me, especially when considering the fact that OnePlus is not that known in the region; it was quite a risk for me, a big gamble. But it was a complete flip after all. Pulling up that white top of the box greeted me immediately with the device, a letter from Carl Pei thanking me for my choice, some manuals and some OnePlus Never Settle stickers and the SIM ejection tool. Popping in my SIM card, I was then caught by a nice gesture from the company – a preinstalled screen protector. It might be just a simple plastic based screen protector and not a fancy glass one, but still definitely a nice touch from them, considering that it will be extremely hard to find any OnePlus accessories around here. It does not stop at that, the build quality of the phone feels like a premium one. This aluminum graphite-grey chassis with its 7.35 mm thin profile and the dark grey antenna lines, the phone looks and feels very nice in your hands. Bezels on the front of the phone are crazy thin on the sides, and are reasonably thin on the top and the bottom, complimented by that ceramic capacitive fingerprint scanner and two subtly lit capacitive buttons sitting on the sides of that fingerprint scanner, with the latter doubling up as a capacitive home button. On the bottom side of the phone, you have a bottom firing mono speaker, a USB type-C port and – thankfully – a 3.5 mm headphone jack. On the right side you have a very tactile power button, with the volume rocker and their priceless 'alert slider', continuing the trend set by the OnePlus 2 and the OnePlus X, on the left side. The top is left clean with no further features like an IR blaster for example, possibly following the trend of newer phones ditching it. Build quality is very nice, especially when considering the price tag this phone carries, though there is no fancy sandstone material used there, and the company chose to leave it for the cases to remind you where they stopped last year. There has been a lot of attention paid to details as far as I can tell, volume buttons are neither wobbly nor tight to click on, and their position is optimal in my opinion; never felt that power button is too high or too low as well as the volume rocker. And that alert slider is textured quite well too. However it is not all dandy, there is a very noticeable protrusion of the back camera that may be annoying for some and worrying for the other, but during my usage without any cases applied to cover that protrusion, that camera hump survived well with no cracks or major scratches. Some may argue that OnePlus played it too safe with the design, with an unimaginative rectangular metal slab with some subtle curves at the corner and ditching their sandstone fanciness, but that phone is a beauty to hold and a pleasure to be held naked. Holding the phone with one hand is manageable, but may not be that comfortable for those with smaller hands. Even me with my medium-sized hands can be exposed to some thumb gymnastics when pulling down the notifications shade or tapping on that settings icon at the top, or reaching the left side of the screen, since there is no curving to the phone's back or anything like that, which make it quite risky when doing so without two hands since it may be a bit slippery. But that is fine for phones in such a size. However, the phone is not extremely big when holding it one-handed, thanks to that tiny bezels that continue to grow as a trend in modern flagships to maximize the screen-to-body ratio. Ultimately, holding that phone is a pleasure, it never felt too cheap or anything like that. All my boxes are ticked with that design save for that comically protruding camera hump at the back, though it is protected well at the sides.
PerformanceFor a $400 phone, you shouldn't expect much in this area, but the OnePlus 3 raised the bar too high. Being equipped with all the top notch hardware you would expect from a $600+ phone, namely the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 and the UFS 2.0 storage, with the latter being missed out in some flagships like the HTC 10 for instance, coupled with a lightweight Oxygen OS with minimal additions over stock android, this phone swears to be a premium flagship phone worth a lot more than its price. Not to mention that whopping 6 GB LPDDR4 RAM, which has its potential fully unlocked with the recent software updates, this phone handles everything with no hassle. Opening the apps is a breeze. Loading a web-page is ridiculously fast. Launching the camera cannot be faster. Everything is handled in a spectacularly quick manner. It even outclasses its UFS 2.0 comrades; the Galaxy S7 duo.
Something to note here as well, the Oxygen OS now will not get in the way while using the phone. This time, the company took their ample time to optimize their Oxygen OS to be staggeringly fast and buttery smooth. Gone are the days where you would face an ugly uncharacterized layer which stands in the way that struggles to operate the phone the way it should with its specs with some weird bugs in even weirder places. The latest iteration of Oxygen OS is a lot more mature than what you can experience with that of last year's flagship killer – which actually did not kill any phone last year. There may be some strange decisions in the OS though that may not utilize the hardware under the hood fully, like limiting the background opened apps to conserve battery life, which is not 100% true, and some minor bugs, which wasn't anything extreme to ruin your experience as you would experience from last year's OS version. But I believe it is much nearer to the other refined UI you can find from HTC and Nexus phones. The core experience of this year's Oxygen OS feels a lot better and smoother than before. Last but not the least, OnePlus' has provided numerous updates to that phone to cure it from any reported bugs on their forums. I have been receiving updates from Oxygen OS 3.1.2 to 3.1.3 to 3.2.1 to 3.2.2 with a lot of bug fixes and optimizations, as well as solving critical conflicts like the needless background apps capping for a device with an edge above a lot of the contenders in the flagship arena when having 6 GB of RAM, even the latest and the greatest of Samsung's Note line still has 4 gigs of RAM. Some may argue that this staggeringly smooth experience may be due to the GPU pushing only a 1080p screen, so it has less overhead work, but we all know that the 1080p screen can be easily managed even with the last gen Adreno 430 and even the older Adreno 420. Thankfully OnePlus took their sweet time when it comes to software optimization, and we must applaud them for that.
If you are looking for some synthetic benchmarks, then go search for them, they barely say the whole story and just bloat the reviews with some barely relevant indicators of how smooth and fast the phone feels and behaves in real life, and we all know how it is fairly easy to fake benchmark scores and cheat those apps to fool you with synthetic numbers and dazzling scores. Let's keep it to that.
Gaming on this device was a pleasure to say the least, buttery smooth and loading times were spectacularly low and thermals were kept in check. The device remained just warm with no major concerns. Temperature readings remained sub-40c, which is just lukewarm and did not feel uncomfortably hot like other devices. The heat is majorly felt at the top third of the device from the back and slightly felt at the glass. I am not that of a gamer, but I was having my medium-load games, like Marvel Future Fight for instance, running perfectly fine. Even games like Real Racing 3, one of the biggest melons for almost any android phone, ran very smooth. Loading the levels was quick enough and the race itself never felt too jiggery or stuttered. Sadly though, that bottom mounted mono speaker is easily muffled, though that large form factor helped me evade blocking the grille partially.
CameraStillsI am not that into photography, but good camera performance on my mobile is definitely appreciated to keep your memorial shots perfect. And with more recent flagships, the bar was raised too high in the camera department. Now we can see some awesome still shots captured by a phone camera; there is a remarkable jump in the camera performance in the last 2 years, with OEMs paying more details to more than just the MP count, like the aperture and the pixel size, stabilization techniques, Autofocus speed and accuracy, and probably more that I may not know about. Premium flagships are nailing it when it comes to pics this year, and the OnePlus 3 is no exception.
Normally when looking at phones in this $400 price tag, the camera performance usually take a hit to cut down the corners and justify the price. But OnePlus never settles with that, continuing their trend they started with their previous phone, packing very decent camera hardware, particularly a 16 MP sensor IMX 298, which has a respectable 1.12-micron pixel size, coupled with both OIS and PDAF system, leaving the Laser Assisted AF system in the shadows of last year, and an aperture size of f/2.0 to capture more light. This set of hardware on paper sounds good yet not exceptional when compared to the competition, but in real life, the OnePlus 3 continues to deliver surprisingly nice results in that area as well. Post processing is not harsh and the noise is sanely reduced without being overdone and smudging the photos resulting in loss of details. Compression ratio is quite adequate as well. Dynamic Range is also high enough and Auto-HDR kicks in the right time to ensure the right exposure is always in place. In daylight, photos came up quite colorful and crispy, albeit not oversaturated like what the S7 favors to do. The phone tends to overexpose a little bit like all other phones, but nothing extreme that can blow the highlights and ruin your photos. Daylight photos have never been that challenging to phones since last year actually, and that was kind of expected. Nevertheless, this phone still performs better than previous flagships like the HTC One M9 for instance.
Moving on to some backlit scenarios, the phone still continues to deliver. Dynamic range was very good, and when Auto-HDR kicked in, it never took so long to process the image either, which is nice to see. Details were not compromised with some oversharpening or any extra compression as well, thanks to sane post-processing.
As the sun goes down, it starts to show some of its shortcomings. That relatively small pixel size collects less light in the picture, and therefore the pictures can get a bit darker than other phones, though the pics are still pleasing to look at. Thanks to its sane post-processing and color production, the pics are still nice and better than almost all the phones at that price range. Impressive enough, the phones are not ruined by oversaturated color production or aggressive sharpening and noise canceling techniques like what the S7 camera does, and the photos are much brighter than the iPhone 6s camera for instance. Despite the challenging light conditions, the phone was able to focus well, albeit not crazy fast like the Galaxy S7's Dual-pixel AF tech for example, however there were no photos coming up out of focus or blurred foreground. In very low light conditions, the photos may possess some graininess, and here where HQ mode comes handy. Briefly said, it is a post processing algorithm that eliminates that graininess and tries to boost the highlights in the pics in an attempt to retrieve more obvious details generally in the pics. It is nothing ground-breaking, but it can be quite a good tool to have sometimes. Flipping the phone to the selfie cam, photos were good enough and my face was not comically smudged. Wasn't fond of selfies so couldn't tell how good it fares when compared to the other phones out there.
Where does that put it in the competition? Well it is quite good I have to say, for 400 bucks, you are having more than what you get from any phone at that price range. Even when compared to the premium flagships, it is very respectable. Excellent daylight performance and very solid low light performance leave it in the upper part of the spectrum within the likes of the LG G5, HTC 10 and the iPhone 6s, beating some phones like the Galaxy S7 and probably much more others.
Here is a link to some photos I have captured, maybe they can make it easier for you to judge how that camera performs.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHS1JNDhuAmgDd4eLXqzxGvSI_DJw
Video recordingStills were generally amazing on that phone, but sadly videos lacked a bit. Starting first with the fact that this phone does not offer you a 1080p 60 fps option, it may be quite a bummer for some people, leaving you only with the 1080p 30 fps option and the 4K 30 fps option, though the hardware possessed is never lacking at all, leaving us scratching our heads why such an option is not available. However, thankfully it supports 4K recording, unlike its comrade, namely the Xperia X Performance.
I was never into video recording, I usually use a video recorder or a digital camera when recording videos, and most people will be as well I guess. But there was some slight wobbling when recording the video, even when the phone is at steady position; the video wobbles at the corners weirdly. OIS performance is a little bit poor when compared to other phones, though the phone never develops some weird continuous hunting for focus or major shakes, just this wobbling that is more noticeable at the sides of the video, especially the corners. It is more like a rotary motion around the center of the viewfinder back and forth alternatively on the sides for those who cannot imagine it, though it is a minor one. 1080p videos were fine generally, but 4K videos had some strange compression artifacts when recording that could not be justified since we are talking about 4K recording. Sound recording was not that good; noise cancelation was overly used. However, OnePlus was responsive enough to provide a quick hefty update with a lot of hot fixes, including an upgrade to the codec to decrease the compression ratio to tame those strange artifacts and improve the noise cancelation algorithm, making a dramatic improvement in sound recording, especially when voice recording, but still needs some work to be done there, and that wobbling has been reduced as well.
Battery life and Thermals
One of the most impressive things in this phone is the battery life and the thermals. I have been having this phone for over a week, with different usage patterns, from as light as reading to as heavy as converting video podcasts to mp3 file on that phone, and I am really struggling to find anything to complain about in that area. Thermal wise, it is the coolest phone I have ever held in my hands; it barely gets too warm to touch, even in the toughest circumstances like being directly exposed to the sun. Battery readings has been mostly around 32-33c with bumps to 34c when browsing the internet or having my usual fare of time spent on the social media. Even if you brutally use this whopping 6-gigs RAM, it rarely hits the 35c. This is one of the coolest phones I have ever held up till that moment, nothing comes close to its spectacular thermals, thanks to the internal design of the phone, where the SoC resides away from the battery in the upper third of the phone, sandwiched between the aluminum back of the phone and the screen, though not as near to the screen as the positioning of the SoC in last year's OnePlus 2, with the battery oppositely placed in the lower third of the phone, not to mention the massive contribution of the large form factor of the phone which allows way more heat dissipation, especially with that aluminum stylish sturdy build. Of course we have got improved thermal performance with that new custom core design of the new Snapdragon 820's Kryo cores and the more efficient 14 nm FinFet manufacturing node process.
What makes it even more compelling is the fact that the phone is not throttling at all, even during my favorite sustainable 100% CPU load test, which is converting a 1-hour video podcast to mp3, a scenario where it requires every bit of horsepower from those big Kryos, it just raised the temps from a relatively warm 33c to 37c, which is very impressive indeed. Bear in mind, ambient was not that cool, and the phone was put on a glass table, so there is a possibility that the phone could have performed even better thermal-wise! The rate at which the phone kept converting the file was consistently at its maximum rate of 1900 KB/s. and looking at the Trepn graph of the CPU, the big cluster was at its max frequency the whole time and the device did not throttle the big cluster at all, while the little cluster was ready to take other tasks! So that indicates that even in the most challenging CPU tasks, where the big cluster keeps holding on its max achievable frequency, the device does not become uncomfortably warm or too hot to touch.
Moving away from those theoretical tests and measurements, and more towards the regular end customers, this phone is a killer. No words can describe how amazed I am from the phone thermal wise. Battery life was very nice as well, leaving me most of the time with 5+ hrs of screen-on time over more than 24 hrs of total usage, and my usual fare of off-screen music playback. I can even reach 6 hrs of screen-on time with some conservation like using Dark Mode, which is awesome on that screen to be honest, and lowering the adaptive brightness level to favor lower brightness levels. Even when having some gaming included, you can make it through the day comfortably, though some may miss the last few midnight hours when back home. That is a B+ or even an A- in my book. Some may be left annoyed though with its decreased battery capacity when compared to its predecessor, and the fact that they favored a thin profile with a comically protruding camera hump over filling the rest of the phone with battery, but that 3000 mAh is not tiny and you won't have any problem in making it through the day.
Even those who can't make it to midnight without ample charge, plug it in the Dash charger for 30 minutes while having a long bath, and enjoy more than 60% of juice, and if you waited longer than an hour by a little bit, you have your adorable toy fully charged. Rest assured, your phone won't explode or burn your hands while being topped up, but the brick might be a bit warmer than what you would expect, but that is natural, considering the fact that all the temperature and current regulation is done in the charging brick itself, and the fact that this brick can pump up to 4 amps to your phone, but that is nothing to worry about, and I am sure that this exquisitely fast charging will be very much appreciated by a lot. It is not only about how quick it can top up my phone's battery, but the confidence it gives to you that you can make it through the day, even if you plugged your phone for less than an hour or even if you gave it a small 10-minute rest. It has changed my charging habits of leaving the phone in the charger overnight, since plugging in the phone for 30 minutes while having my breakfast and taking a quick shower will certainly give my phone battery ample battery to last through the day, and if I waited till getting dressed up, I can have it fully charged.
Here are some stats I have collected:
Day 1 (46% used)
Screen-on time: 2 hrs 43 minutes // Total time: 16 hrs 20 minutes
Day 2 (75% used)
Screen-on time: 5 hrs 22 minutes // Total time: 15 hrs 19 minutes
Day 3 (90% used)
Screen-on time: 6 hrs 13 minutes // Total time: 16 hrs 35 minutes
Day 4 (88% used)
Screen-on time: 5 hrs 33 minutes // Total time: 20 hrs 54 minutes
Day 5 (93% used)
Screen-on time: 5 hrs 50 minutes // Total time: 22 hrs 35 minutes
Day 6 (53% used)
Screen-on time: 3 hrs 27 minutes // Total time: 12 hours 37 minutes
AudioSpeakers
Coming from an M9, I was really worried about that move. It was so hard for me to leave those legendary one-of-a-kind dual front firing speakers with this 5.1 ch surround effect, courtesy of Dolby's technologies and HTC's killer hardware packed inside that aluminum chassis. So it took some time to cope with that weird placement of the speaker, though Apple is still convinced that this is the best place to put the speaker in, to the extent that they will build upon that placement with their dual yet bottom facing speakers dedicated for audiophiles ironically!
Moving on to the star of the show, the OnePlus 3, I moved my usual set of music sets, which involve some club, trap, EDM, PDB mixes and some trances, and fired up a club set. I was surprised it was able to push it that loud actually. The bass was fuller than expected and not that thin, however, just like every smartphone out there, the "boomy" part of the song was not that audible, and the lower mids were a tiny bit higher than my taste. Vocals were crystal clear though, and the trebles weren't muffled. Overall it was very balanced produced sound and a very enjoyable experience. Up till 13/15 of the volume and there is no distortion. Higher than that, you start to feel some little sharpness in the sound; it is a mobile small mono speaker after all and that is expected, we aren't having any kind of woofers here. With that being said, I really think that this mono speaker surpasses all its other comrades, including the so-called iPhone 6s', which we will get to in a minute. My recommendation will remain to be not bumping up the speakers any higher than 12/15, just like any other speaker in any android [/STIKE] phone out there, should you use the phone's speaker to listen to your podcasts and such mixes
Compared to the iPhone 6s, a very close contender with the same speaker setup, I think that the decibel output is much higher on the OnePlus 3 by a great extent. To match the iPhone 6s' volume, I had to tone down the OnePlus 3 to 11/15, since comparing those at max volume would be unfair and arguably inaccurate. But what differs is the way they are "calibrated" or tuned out of the box. The iPhone 6s may possess more oomph in the lower "boomy" part of the bass, though the mids lack quite a bit and sound muffled when compared to the OnePlus 3. And the highs were a little bit overstated. I guess that speaker tuning is more like Beats faulty calibration, while the OnePlus 3's speaker tuning is approaching more of a balanced sound, where there are some sense of "flatness" in the sound by its nature, which is the norm, since bass will always lack in such small speakers, and to me, this is much better than Apple's endeavors to artificially emulate a Woofer's bass pronunciation on such a mono speaker with small drivers, which is done by massively increasing the dynamic bass and the clarity, consequently muffling the rest of the frequencies, particularly the mids, where it sounds like a far-fetched voice. In such a dueling battle, I favor the speaker of the OnePlus 3 over the iPhone's, since it is much more accurate when playing the music and sounds a lot louder with no audible distortion that may ruin your experience. Of course, rest assured, you will hear your ringtone from that phone pretty well, you cannot go wrong with that. Comparing any of the OnePlus 3 or even the iPhone 6s to any of the HTC 10, M9 or even the M8, will be really unfair, as the experience is so much different in my opinion. However I might try my best to do such a detailed comparison, but even if I did, my perspective of such a comparison will remain the same.
Of course the usual drawbacks of a mono speaker apply here; the separation between the lows and the highs will not be that great, though I still feel like all the frequency bands are produced correctly from that speaker, and you won't get any type of fancy immersive effects like the 5.1 ch surround effect of the M9 or an awesome Hi-Fi speaker experience like the HTC 10 with its woofer-tweeter setup, not to mention how easy it is to block that speaker grille and muffle it when gaming for instance, though that relatively larger form factor helps a bit, but not that much sadly. Of course it was too weird for me when watching YouTube to have that one-ear experience with no love for the other; it took me quite a bit to cope with that. Nevertheless, for a single mono speaker on a phone, this remains one of the best –if not the best- in that territory; the mono bottom facing speaker.
Plugged in HTC's earphones
Now it is no secret that OnePlus skips shipping a OnePlus branded pair of earphones, though I believe such a company can make some great earphones like HTC's from what I have been treated with from my experience with that phone. Ironically, they made a OnePlus branded VR headset, and skipped a pair of OnePlus headphones! I went ahead and plugged in my HTC in-ear buds, and went ahead. Max volume is very good actually; it actually exceeded my expectations for a $400 phone to be honest. It was surprising in the best way possible! It clearly hits the sweet spot for my ears when maxed out, more like a 13(.5)/15 of the M9's volume for those who are wondering. Those extra two volume steps on the M9 were useless for me when using the earbuds actually; they used to irritate my ear drums and it was too loud for me to enjoy the music, possibly due to the M9's noise levels, which continued to impress on the OnePlus 3 as well; noise levels were amazingly low when hearing my club mixes. There was very decent depth in the audio played, all the instruments were audible. The tracks also were correctly produced in terms of frequency response. Of course I have no technical data measured, but the default audio was very balanced. The bass was not that full by default, but with the aid of a simple EQ from Google's Play music app –something that we as HTC users dreamt to have on our $600+ phones, at least till the M9– I perfected the audio output in the headphones to my personal liking, and the audio experience was really enjoyable. That really impressed me, however, the surround virtualizer in that EQ was actually not that mind-blowing; it widened the soundstage and strangely the middle part of the bass low frequencies was bumped up, which was nice, but trebles started to lack, so I ditched it after all. But hey we have it at least; the M9 had that feature intentionally (or not? maybe they did not know it is there!) disabled in its config file! Now here is where the OnePlus 3 starts to lack a little tiny bit, stereo separation between the two channels. I can't say exactly how much it lacks exactly when compared to the M9, but in some instances when the drums hit quite frequently in the left ear after the right ear, or in some computer-done mixes and effects where it rapidly changes between the right and left ear, stereo crosstalk crept in little bit when compared to the M9. When compared to the iPhone 6s, it was almost the same. It is something to note, nothing deal breaking or anything that can stop you from enjoying your music. My recommendation is to remain sub 13/15 like any device as well.
Other than that I have nothing to complain about. Everything is perfected! Noise levels are extremely low, lower than the M9's - especially with BoomSound enabled. Max volume is loud enough and not that overpowered. Don't like the default sound? You have an EQ, with two bars for bass boosting and Surround sound emulating, and a 5-band simple yet effective EQ with some presets pre-installed if you would like to try. Very punchy crisp sound is produced, with nice depth, which brings all music to your ears. Just those coming from an M9 or any HTC device will notice that creepy stereo crosstalk, but it is still better than almost all the phones maybe. It is enough to say it still within the same level of the bitten fruit
Plugged in a 2.1 ch Subwoofer
Plugging in my AUX cable from the 2.1 ch Sub-Woofer set, I went ahead and fired up my favorite club mix, with high spirits as of what I have heard from the OnePlus 3 with the HTC Earbuds, and I was not let down at all. My amusement continued to grow on this device. I was treated with the same amazingly low noise levels and that zero distortion as well! The lower-part of the bass was blasting the Woofer, without being distorted or "overpowered". Treble was not lacking. And if you do not like how it sounds, Google Play Music's EQ is your friend. And with that being a Sub-Woofer set, that stereo crosstalk is not noticeable at all. Max volume was enough for me to fill the house with my music, just like what the M9 and the iPhone 6s used to do.
Overall audio experience
This device is a definite green light for audiophiles on a budget. This phone swears to be an audio veteran, and within its price tag, you will never ever find anything that sounds better than that phone, maybe the far-fetched ZTE Axon flagship. It even blows some $600+ flagships out of the water, like the galaxy S7 for instance or the LG G5 with its built in standard Snapdragon 820 DAC, which is the same used on the OnePlus. And it does not stop at that, it is a very close runner-up to the audio classics like the LG V10 and the HTC One M9. It even sniffs the socks of the iPhone 6s headset-wise and gives it a good run for its money speakers-wise. Of course I am pretty sure the HTC 10 will be in a league of its own, but I believe we have a very close contender here. This phone won't let you down in that area, either hooked up to a cable, or on its own bare speaker, it still sounds spectacular. Even for me, a man who is not that fond of phone's speakers when listening to music, I still like how that speaker sounds. Great job OnePlus!
Some things to note…
1-Stereo crosstalk is a measurement of how distinct the 2 analogue channels are, or rather more technically, how much signal leaking from each channel falsely to the other, which makes the music produced tending to be more towards the mono side. The lower the stereo crosstalk, the more you feel both channels are separated, the better the audio quality from each channel. On the OnePlus 3, it was low enough for a pleasing experience, though there are phones out there having less stereo crosstalk, though not that much really.
2- It was noted that the device calls up a 'device' when playing any sounds via speaker in the Audio Mods thread of the OnePlus 3, which is believed to be an amplifier dedicated to the speaker made by Qualcomm, hence the loud but clear audio output from that speaker.
3- This phone utilizes Dirac's latest tech; the Dirac Power Sound, which is a digital speaker optimization solution engineered by both OnePlus and Dirac engineers. Simply said, it is like a pair of correction glasses that corrects, instead of correcting eyesight, the frequency response dynamically within each volume step to ensure minimal distortion even when cranked up at max volume, hence the loud but clear output from this speaker. However, they denied the fact that OnePlus uses another Dirac solution for the headphone jack, and I could not find what this device uses to enhance the audio experience that much.
4- Pairing that device to a JBL Flip 3 continued to impress me as well, it was very close to the HTC One M9 and I may say it had a more powerful bass, and a slightly warmer sound when compared to the M9, which likes to be on the colder, thinner part. At maximum volume it was very loud as well, just like the M9 I believe.
5- When plugged in the HTC's in-ear buds, the max volume of the OnePlus 3 is the same as the iPhone 6s, with the latter having less audible bass lines than the slightly warmer sound of the former – by default.
Other things to note1- Call quality has been quite decent, no complaints from both sides
2- Fingerprint scanner is blazing fast and accurate, wasn't expecting that from a $400 phone
3- The alert slider is quite nice to have and is easily configurable
4- There is an sRGB mode hidden in the developer options for those who want the most accurate colors possible, though it may be a bit dim or warm for most people's eyes compared to the vivid NTSC standard used by default
5- The screen is legible under sunlight, but there are phones that can have higher maximum brightness.
6- Auto-brightness may be a bit too slow to respond to the varying lighting conditions; sometimes it is a bit too dim or too bright.
7- Network connectivity is fine, though handling multiple downloads is not that great. WiFi reception is good and the range is comparable to what you can find in flagships
8- Some may argue that only a 1080p resolution on that 5.5" AMOLED screen is not that sufficient, but it is sharp enough for me and I never saw any annoyingly obvious pixelation in the screen while using the phone.
Are you sponsored by OnePlus ?
Fine for you that you like the OnePlus 3, but personally I don't agree on everything you claimed.
Camera
I'm into photograph. So I have an other look on this subject. Indeed, phone camera has raised a lot the last few years.
But when you start saying "Excellent daylight performance and very solid low light performance leave it in the upper part of the spectrum within the likes of the LG G5, HTC 10 and the iPhone 6s, beating some phones like the Galaxy S7 and probably much more others.", I have to stop you.
I also have a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge, and I assure you, the OP3 is way behind if it comes to photo-quality. Yes when looking at fullscreen on a FullHD it looks good. But I have 4K monitors at home, and then you see the real quality of these photos. I had a look at your photos on your dropbox. And they all have the same problem, they are grainy, and they have some clearly artifacts, like colors that run out. I don't see that on my photos taken with my Samsung S6 Edge (https://500px.com/photo/166547265/sunrise-at-gooik-by-paul-de-meersman?ctx_page=1&from=user&user_id=1777241).
The OP3 photos are over exposed (about 1 stop of light). It's the worst scenario you can have to recover, because you lose to much information that can not be recovered. I don't have this issue on my S6 Edge, I personalty feel that it even does the light-metering better then my 1600€ Canon reflex camera. The photo of the sunrise I posted taken with my Samsung would have been over exposed with my Canon Reflex on auto settings.
I would be surprised that the S7 has over-saturated color production or aggressive sharpening and noise canceling techniques. That is not what I have seen on photos taken with it. But I did not tried it my self. over-saturated color production wouldn't be so bad, because that can easily be corrected in post editing.
But yes for 400€ it is very good, but don't say its leveled with the performance of some flagship like the iPhone 6s or the Samsung S6.
sRGB mode
Are you kidding us, when you say that sRGB mode hidden in the developer options is for those who want the most accurate colors possible ????
I have 2 monitors that are color calibrated. When I look at the colors of my photos on the OP3 with sRGB activated, it's horrible. All my colors are lost. And yes my JPEG files include the sRGB embedded color profile.
Display build quality
Because people must also be informed about the négatifs.
A lot of people include me, have bad experiances with the display after it falls. Yes it is not made to trow on the ground. But accidents happen. In my case it felt from less then 60cm (23.6 inch) on its back, and the display is shattered and cracked over the hole surface. I never had a display broken that easy. And yes I have a lot of stupid accidents. Phone falls from the bed, table, ... but never had any issues. The only phone that I had some cracks was my Samsung S6 Edge (the reason I bought the OP3). But the S6 felt from my hands on the first floor, hitting some stairs before terminating at the tile floor. And even then the damage was a lot less then the one on the OP3. And that is remarkable because bought pretend to be Gorilla Glass 4.
I was already hesitating what i would do the day my S6 Edge would be repaired. Because I'm sure that the camera will improve with software upgrades (because the RAW files shows us that it can take better picture, only the camera information is missing or not correct in the DNG file, so you have a lot of post processing to do or the need of a camera calibration tool), it is very fast and has dual sim slot. But after my experience with the easily broken screen, and afterwards reading all the posts of other people complaining that this gorilla glass 4 screen is very fragile, I have decided that I will go back to the Samsung S6 Edge, because I already know that next time it should fall, and it will certainly, it will break again.
@dmeerpa hi
First let me start by thanking you for going through my honest review of the OnePlus 3 - nah I am not sponsored by OnePlus at all, it is just my experience.
Let's start with the camera. All these criticism is very acceptable and I did mention that overexposure issue (did I ?), however, all these errors were not so annoying to me since as I mentioned,....I am not a camera guy. And I guess that the camera quality is enough to satisfy a lot of the people using that phone. Moving photos to the 4K monitors is not that abundant I guess, but definitely appreciate your knowledgeable criticism.
The sRGB mode is not my favorite I have to say; it lacks saturation and some report it to have a yellowish hue to all the colors, I don't face that yellowish tint here, but some face it, and looks like you do as well. The situation is that, it is like a set of calibrations set to all the phones without taking care of the small variances between each display and the other. However, it definitely lacks saturation.
Your comments on build quality is so hard to test, I buy phones to use as daily driver and it is too hard for me to witness my phone that i bought with my hard-earned money fall intentionally just to see how durable it is. And I treat my phones so nicely, even when working out.
P.S. I come from an HTC One M9, and this OnePlus 3 camera is a relief. If you say the photos are grainy here, then you will be knocking your head into a brick wall when you see my M9 photos.
P.P.S looks like Google Photos ruined my photos with its "high quality" syncing option I guess that is why all the photos are so grainy and has some artifacts due to high compression... :crying:
@Mostafa Wael
First of all the main reason that I reacted was that I have the impression you are saying this is the perfect phone. It starts whit your title 'The One to rule them all'. I agree it is a great piece of hardware for an acceptable price.
Yes you did mention that overexposure issue (did I ?), but you also said just like other phones (The phone tends to overexpose a little bit like all other phones). I never had a smartphone (iPhone 3G, iPhone4, Sony Xperia ZL, HTC One M8 and the Samsung S6 Edge) and none had the overexposure issue. So somewhere I found you where hiding this minus by saying that others have it to, that is not my experience and I wanted to inform potential buyers that read your review that some people have other thoughts about it.
If you did use HDR you will have less problems because the dynamic range is much bigger. I did test the camera without HQ and HDR, so that I also had the RAW files. I tend to say that the RAW files are even more over exposed.
I believe you that upload has ruined you photos, but since I have also the OP3, I now it has those grain and other artifacts probably due to to much compression.
It depends what you want to do with the photos. Post them on social media, maybe after cropping, and yes more and more persons have 4K monitors, and when graphical cards become fast enough and cheap enough more and more gamers will settle with 4K monitors. And yes then they will visit social media on it to.
But that was not the intention of my reaction. I also look at those 4K monitors the photos taken with the Samsung S6 Edge, and I do not have the same sad experience because they are sharper and cleaner. So I just wanted to say that with the help of my 4K monitors I can clearly see that the image quality is far behind the one of the Samsung S6. And so I do not find it fair to say to potential buyers that it in the upper part of the spectrum within the likes of the LG G5, HTC 10 and the iPhone 6s, beating some phones like the Galaxy S7.
But I can believe you when you say it is a relief when coming from the HTC One M9. I had previous the HTC One M8, a lot of people where also enthusiastic about the picture quality. It as as good as Samsung, iPhone, .... I was also disappointed when I saw those camera pictures, especially in low light. So when afterwards I had the Samsung, then I was really surprised in the positive sense. So yes i'm surprised you don't like the photos from the S7.
And of course I don't expect you do some drop tests. But as this is a review, and potential buyers are reading it, i felt that I have to share this bad experience to.
And to be honest I should mention that from the other people that had the same bad experience they are also not satisfied with the way support is handling there requests.
But again, great piece of hardware, for that kind of money, if they only had a more robust display I would keep it instead of my Samsung Galaxy S6. I would help myself with RAW files, and would had hoped the fixed it with a software update.
Hope you have more luck with the phone :good:
@dmeerpa well I guess I will draw more attention to your crisis of the overexposure and, with the part of the upper spectrum thing, I meant that it is comparable to those phones. Not better, but not that behind for regular Jacks and Joes eh? For sure the phone will have more grainy shots than the S6 (1.12 micron vs 1.2 micron for the OnePlus 3 and the Galaxy S6 respectively) and for sure the bigger pixel will get more light and will be better, but still it is a solid performer in my eyes. The M9 for instance was a damn POS when hanging out with the friends at night, the OnePlus 3 manages to get some nice shots - decent enough for me to look at the pic, unlike the M9 - so, it is decent enough. Not for those who monitor the pics on 4K displays and can be quite "meh-ing" for those people.
BTW, Galaxy S6 is still better in my eyes than the S7. I really saw that over sharpening, it loses some details. I still believe that the S6 has more beautiful shots (says a friend of mine who had both)
Do you think my camera part deserves an overall redo? I mean, if I drawn more attention to the overexposure issue and the grainy shots in extreme low light, would it be sufficient ?
Btw, for this phone, I have two perspectives
1- comparing the phone with other phones in the same price range (man that phone raises the bar too high and it feels unfair for me )
2- comparing the phone with its respectable category/tier. This is a flagship phone so it shall face some of the top dogs as they say in some areas.
3- reviewing the phone as a whole package and does it satisfy me in my day-to-day usage or do I feel the need for something better, which is what most of the people look at. I may not recognise the issue with the photos of it being a bit grainy and may be quite meh when looking at the photos on the 4K displays as I personally do not own a one myself, but it has never been a catch for most of the internet citizens as far as I saw. I am not saying that your opinion is negligible, make no mistake absolutely, but...for the mean time, viewing photos on 4K displays is not that major, no?
About that issue of support, well of course I had no issues obliging me to ship my phone to the online support, but there has been an xda article in the portal that has discussed the way the technical support manage the faulty shipped units, perhaps I should link to that in my review.
Please let me know if there is anything misleading in your opinion. Thanks for the thorough walkthrough of my review, definitely appreciated
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I was astonished when I heard the speakers for myself, they are really loud but clear!
they're good, but not great.
I like the speakers, but they need some tweaking, the sound isn't as full bodied as my HTC One M7 was. They're clear sounding, but a bit tinny for my taste. I'll be happy when some eq mods get implemented.
I was really pleasantly surprised by them. They are just as loud as my Nexus 6P WITH the Viper4Android soundboost all the way up. Once I get V4A on the Pixel 2 I wonder just how loud it will actually get. Sounds amazing for such a small phone too, wow.
Got mine in yesterday. nice crisp clear sound... but the earpiece speaker is treble biased, and the bottom speaker is bass biased...
Makes things sound really weird when listening to music or watching movies in landscape...
I am getting an exchange unit and will update when that unit comes in.
Update: Exchange unit came in... I've been using it for a few days now, and I have noticed no difference from my last unit... an hour on the phone with google device engineers got me the response that this is by design to increase the frequency range... I still don"t like it as it bothers me..
who wants to buy a gently used pixel2?
ApoKyla said:
Got mine in yesterday. nice crisp clear sound... but the earpiece speaker is treble biased, and the bottom speaker is bass biased...
Makes things sound really weird when listening to music or watching movies in landscape...
I am getting an exchange unit and will update when that unit comes in.
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The same situation. Is it feature or defect? Can anybody confirm it? Thanks.
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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I just got mine today I do not have the sound in the ear piece and also my forward face speakers are crisp loud and clear with just a slight thumping for base it amazing to my ears but what do I know I came from a s6 ?
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I just got mine today I do not have the sound in the ear piece and also my forward face speakers are crisp loud and clear with just a slight thumping for base it amazing to my ears but what do I know I came from a s6 ?
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Thank you sir. New phone will be here Wednesday. We shall see.
Elvis_Stojko said:
Thank you sir. New phone will be here Wednesday. We shall see.
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hope u get one without issues
Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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My speakers seem to rattle a little at max volume, even just with Google Assistant or navigating. Haven't noticed any issues on calls though I haven't made a lot since I got my Pixel 2.
Overall quality seems all right a few notches down from max, but is quite noticeably worse than my nexus 6.
Speakers
Could anybody check if speakers are producing the same sound (you can cover it by finger). My unit's top speaker has more hights, bottom one has more mids and bass. Maybe it's by design. I am not sure. Thank you.
ales005 said:
Could anybody check if speakers are producing the same sound (you can cover it by finger). My unit's top speaker has more hights, bottom one has more mids and bass. Maybe it's by design. I am not sure. Thank you.
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Yes, absolutely agree with you. Bottom is far better at base and mids. Top speaker is opposite.
ales005 said:
The same situation. Is it feature or defect? Can anybody confirm it? Thanks.
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It could be related to separate dedicated drivers in each speaker (Allowing for larger respective drivers), or simply an equalization software aspect.
The Dark Knight Patriot said:
It could be related to separate dedicated drivers in each speaker (Allowing for larger respective drivers), or simply an equalization software aspect.
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Ditto here. Noticed it right out of the box. Top is treble biased, bottom is bass. It seems design derivative. Also possible too because the top speaker is also used for earpiece/speakerphone?
Waiting for more confirmation from google whether this is real or defect. Good to hear from here I'm not the only one.
No issue though with the phone so far.
https://9to5google.com/2017/10/24/t...2-sound-completely-different-heres-why-video/
The are crystal clear but when I compare them to my nexus 6, the bass is better on the nexus
Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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Also have the ticking sound, and so so sounding speakers. Trying to RMA. Apparently turning off NFC is supposed to help with the ticking sound. Haven't done it myself....too many digital reward cards
Noticed quite a bit of distortion when navigating at max volume. The voice is full bodied and, combined with the software EQ choice, I think it hits that perfect low-mid tone and overpowers the speakers. Stepping it down two notches basically eliminates it. Also noticed that the speakers are very directional compared to the OG pixel XL. Had both devices playing the same music and Pixel 2 audio disappears when faced away compared to the OG pixel which was much more audible when the speaker was pointed away. I think the amount of bass they are trying to offer is lofty and unattainable and the device would sound better with a bit more mid and less extreme treble and bass. If I decide to keep this device I'll be praying for the dev community to offer up some display and audio tweaks. P.S. I haven't noticed the ticking/noise from the speakers on my device but I think if they dropped this ultra hifi EQ choice, a slight drop in highs would probably make it much less noticeable or might make it disappear completely if the frequency could be isolated and cut (I'm looking at you 6kHz and above).
Can anyone get me /etc, /lib & /bin folders? I might take a look if there is any ways to improve your device's speakers