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Just so everyone is aware, the kernel and the recovery partition signatures are checked on each boot, changing those will leave you with a brick, until we have proper firmware to recovery with.
I found out the hard way.
On my second Atrix now.
Casualty of war
Taking one for the team
Well that sucks..
any free partitions that we can "steal"? and basically pull a haret where it loads partially from legit bootloader and kernel, then shuffles off to a different partition we CAN write for the real kernel, unloads all that other stuff and then launches the new kernel partiion we've modified?
designgears said:
Just so everyone is aware, the kernel and the recovery partition signatures are checked on each boot, changing those will leave you with a brick, until we have proper firmware to recovery with.
I found out the hard way.
On my second Atrix now.
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I guess that when we told you this, you just had to find out for yourself. The recovery should only be checked when you attempt to access it, but the kernel is checked on every boot. I hope you did not return to store as defective.
DG, thank you for putting yourself out there, and putting together roms along with the dev work.
Its nice to see some progress being done along side all the people on here saying what we shouldnt be doing/trying with our phones.
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DG, thank you for putting yourself out there, and putting together roms along with the dev work.
Its nice to see some progress being done along side all the people on here saying what we shouldnt be doing/trying with our phones.
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Don't thank him for repeating something which had been confirmed.
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I guess that when we told you this, you just had to find out for yourself. The recovery should only be checked when you attempt to access it, but the kernel is checked on every boot. I hope you did not return to store as defective.
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So you told me it was checked every boot (first bold), but it should only be checked when you access it (second bold)? Confused, on drugs or what?
I just found out the hard way for you, it's checked every boot accessed or not.
If you want to be elitist and not post up a FAQ about what you know (do you even have an atrix), please stop posting in here, you've done nothing but spout off what you know about other moto devices, it is clear they tightened things down a bit more.
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everything you guys say, along with others says it SHOULD be checked when accessed, which means I should have been able to boot normally and fail when I boot recovery.
You guys keep saying its CONFIRMED, where is it documented for the atrix. Tests performed with document results as proof.
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So you told me it was checked every boot (first bold), but it should only be checked when you access it (second bold)? Confused, on drugs or what?
I just found out the hard way for you, it's checked every boot accessed or not.
If you want to be elitist and not post up a FAQ about what you know (do you even have an atrix), please stop posting in here, you've done nothing but spout off what you know about other moto devices, it is clear they tightened things down a bit more.
everything you guys say, along with others says it SHOULD be checked when accessed, which means I should have been able to boot normally and fail when I boot recovery.
You guys keep saying its CONFIRMED, where is it documented for the atrix. Tests performed with document results as proof.
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What is being elitist by my statement? That before you started playing with your shiny new toy, we advised that doing certain things with your phone without proper firmware to restore your phone, WOULD result in a "soft brick".
I do not have a motorola ATRIX, never said I did, but I can read the firmware pretty well. If your offended by my post I assume it is because offered up my standard line of "hope you did not return it as defective", because nothing else in that statement should lead you behave like a child.
Here how about this for a Facts, my rom was the first to safely remove Blur from the Droid series of phones safely, after reading the firmware from your phone, and your deodexed version of the firmware there are many portions you could remove safely.
If you have questions you could ask and get the answers, but as it stands right now, we are just trying to help you save yourselves. Many people will enter these forums, and while each person is responsible for their own device, they will try to follow what you have done and they too will soft brick their phone. I'm not sure of your ethical and moral makeup but too many people return their manipulated device to the provider as defective causing every to pay for their mistake.
I just hope you bought another Atrix outright and did not scam ATT/Motorola.
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So you told me it was checked every boot (first bold), but it should only be checked when you access it (second bold)? Confused, on drugs or what?
I just found out the hard way for you, it's checked every boot accessed or not.
If you want to be elitist and not post up a FAQ about what you know (do you even have an atrix), please stop posting in here, you've done nothing but spout off what you know about other moto devices, it is clear they tightened things down a bit more.
everything you guys say, along with others says it SHOULD be checked when accessed, which means I should have been able to boot normally and fail when I boot recovery.
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DesignGears,
Please don't let a claim-to-know-it-all self-righteous Prick like jimmydafish discourage your efforts.
As far as I'm concerned (and probably the majority of people who mash the refresh button on this subforum multiple times a day would agree) it's people like you (people who have actively contributed to the users here at XDA in the past (all your captivate work)), that make me feel lucky to own the same type of device that you and other dedicated devs like yourself own.
Its hard to imagine how someone who probably played a very small part on a team -- a team that, as far as I can tell, has never managed to actually produce any real results on the DX -- can know so much about a device he doesn't even own.
And if reading this post encourages members of any such team to get their panties in a wad and start talking about how they are not going to contribute here now, well then to that I say: good riddance. For every one small tip you may provide it seams like you offer two holier-than-thou-doughe-bag-comments that frankly this section of this forum could do without.
But again, thank you DesginGears and Devs like you
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DesignGears,
Please don't let a claim-to-know-it-all self-righteous Prick like jimmydafish discourage your efforts.
As far as I'm concerned (and probably the majority of people who mash the refresh button on this subforum multiple times a day would agree) it's people like you (people who have actively contributed to the users here at XDA in the past (all your captivate work)), that make me feel lucky to own the same type of device that you and other dedicated devs like yourself own.
Its hard to imagine how someone who probably played a very small part on a team -- a team that, as far as I can tell, has never managed to actually produce any real results on the DX -- can know so much about a device he doesn't even own.
And if reading this post encourages members of any such team to get their panties in a wad and start talking about how they are not going to contribute here now, well then to that I say: good riddance. For every one small tip you may provide it seams like you offer two holier-than-thou-doughe-bag-comments that frankly this section of this forum could do without.
But again, thank you DesginGears and Devs like you
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I can assure you I am not, glad to have support.
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Jimmy, no hard feelins, sorry I wanted try something and learn from it, sorry you told me two opposing things in the same post(this is what I am *****ing about if you would read you would know that), sorry I act like a child, I guess calling it how I see it is childish. From all the PM's about you I just got and mburris reply, you have made my block list, have fun in there with rafy.
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I just hope you bought another Atrix outright and did not scam ATT/Motorola.
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Maybe if more people softbricked and returned phones that have locked down bootloaders, oems and carriers might finally realize that when someone buys a piece of technology, they own it, and would like to use it as such.
That includes:
1. Not having some POS skin on top of stock android (Blur)
2. Not being locked into paying twice for the data we already pay for (tethering)
3. Not being allowed to easily install non-market apps that we develop without jumping through hoops (slide loading)
4. Not having to wait for the carrier or oem mfg to release an update before we can have a current version of Android.
Call it a Brick-n-Return Protest
mburris said:
Maybe if more people softbricked and returned phones that have locked down bootloaders, oems and carriers might finally realize that when someone buys a piece of technology, they own it, and would like to use it as such.
That includes:
1. Not having some POS skin on top of stock android (Blur)
2. Not being locked into paying twice for the data we already pay for (tethering)
3. Not being allowed to easily install non-market apps that we develop without jumping through hoops (slide loading)
4. Not having to wait for the carrier or oem mfg to release an update before we can have a current version of Android.
Call it a Brick-n-Return Protest
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LOL, that would surely cause some grief over at at&t, and a good laugh.
They would probably start leasing the phones so you can't say you own them.
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Hello everyone!
During the last few days I had a bricked nexus 6. Bootloader locked, no adb, no custom recovery. After several hard resets using stock recovery, the phone could boot. However, in the configuration process, it kept asking me for gmail account that was previously synced with the device. After some research, I discovered that it was a feature introduced with 5.1 and that I had to contact the seller ( which was impossible in my case as I bought it abroad). Another solution was to downgrade, but again it was impossible because I had no adb, no custom recovery, no bootloader unlocked. Surprinsingly, I went to a place here in Morocco where there are some people who flash phones and repair them. I asked one of them about my issue and he told me that it can be repaired. I am just dumbfounded as now I have a " working nexus 6".
I still cannot believe it! How couldn't I find a solution first here in xda? Or Am I missing something?
No one here knows how to bypass it. As far as we are aware, it cannot be done.
Perhaps your team have some special hardware to do it.
Anyway, even if we did know, there would be an ethical debate about releasing that info. No one would tell you.
danarama said:
No one here knows how to bypass it. As far as we are aware, it cannot be done.
Perhaps your team have some special hardware to do it.
Anyway, even if we did know, there would be an ethical debate about releasing that info. No one would tell you.
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Thank you so much for your clarification. It's true that the reset device protection is something useful which won't let thieves use our phones, however, there are many people like me who bought their phones legally but got stuck there due to a bad flash or because the seller forgot to erase his account before reset.
And yeah! those people have probably something special or they just know too much in coding.... ( some commands maybe we don't know )
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Thank you so much for your clarification. It's true that the reset device protection is something useful which won't let thieves use our phones, however, there are many people like me who bought their phones legally but got stuck there due to a bad flash or because the seller forgot to erase his account before reset.
And yeah! those people have probably something special or they just know too much in coding.... ( some commands maybe we don't know )
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The problem is that there is no way to give information (even if we had it) to those who legally purchased whilst also preventing it getting into the wrong hands.
Those who purchase legally should be protected by testing the device first, a credit card buyer protection/PayPal, contact with the seller or returns policy. Buying outside this is pretty foolish.
I would be interested to know how they did it though.
Was the phone bricked when you bought it, or did you brick it after using it with your google account.
If you used your google account then it would have been tied to you. If that is the case then they fixed some other error.....
Just because this phone using eMMC,not some fuse in CPU to log the ID.So,just change device id,imei.Everything is fine.
I know I've done several factory resets and it always asks for that, BUT, if you flash the stock firmware and have your sim in it I've had it skip that process entirely.
You can try flashing, check if it asks, then flash it again? I know I've bypassed it in the past "accidentally" by doing that.
Maybe it still somehow knows its me? Idk.
They likely used J-Tag to downgrade it.
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They likely used J-Tag to downgrade it.
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I tried to know what they did! They wouldn't tell !!!
Rikodu said:
I tried to know what they did! They wouldn't tell !!!
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I like to know how much you paid ?
hi dears, i bought a second hand ARCHOS 50 helium Plus. i can not complete setup. i am blocked while it asks me to put the google account and when i put my google account it says " this device was reset to continue sign in with a google account that was previously synced " i tried to rest the phone. please help..........
Sorry, but the only person that can help you is the person you bought the device from. They will need to sign in to the device, remove their account from the device, then factory reset before you will be able to use it. And before you ask, no, there is no other way to resolve this.
P.S. While the site appreciates that you actually searched for a thread related to your problem, this is the Nexus 6 forum. In the future, your questions are better asked here.
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hi dears, i bought a second hand ARCHOS 50 helium Plus. i can not complete setup. i am blocked while it asks me to put the google account and when i put my google account it says " this device was reset to continue sign in with a google account that was previously synced " i tried to rest the phone. please help..........
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If you follow the directions you will be able to bypass it. This new little security thing was bypassed within hours of it being known about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-frp-bypass-solution-usb-otg-t3261846
The easies way is unlock the bootloader, and flash the device with the latest stock image.
thanks
zelendel said:
If you follow the directions you will be able to bypass it. This new little security thing was bypassed within hours of it being known about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-frp-bypass-solution-usb-otg-t3261846
The easies way is unlock the bootloader, and flash the device with the latest stock image.
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Thanks.......... i will try.............
@zelendel: Guess I learned something new.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@zelendel: Guess I learned something new.
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If you dont learn something new every day then it is a wasted day man. We all learn new things every day. No matter what security is implamented it will be bypassed ini short order. Heck FP scanner was bypassed within days, Facial rec was done in hours. This one didnt take that long either.
Knowing it's possible is one thing. Explaining how to do it is another. I believe in the future I'm just not going to respond at all to people asking how to bypass the lockout. After responding to someone on these forums who admitted bypassing the account lockout on a found phone, I have to assume that anyone trying to bypass the lockout is a thief.
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Knowing it's possible is one thing. Explaining how to do it is another. I believe in the future I'm just not going to respond at all to people asking how to bypass the lockout. After responding to someone on these forums who admitted bypassing the account lockout on a found phone, I have to assume that anyone trying to bypass the lockout is a thief.
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This is what we do here. We bypass things. Mainly security features. Just look at all the features the OEMS use to lock things down. Things like root, S-off (HTC devices) Bootloader unlocks that dont trip knox (samsung), Bypassing fingerprint and facial rec locks, bypassing pattern/number locks and such.
All those things that you mention aren't anti-theft measures. Those things are the hoops we have to jump through to take control of the devices we've bought and paid for, or are in the process of paying off. They are not intended to prevent the device from being used if the device is lost or stolen.
The account lockout is an anti-theft measure, and I firmly believe that discussing means of circumventing an anti-theft measure should not be allowed on XDA. Obviously, I do not make the rules for the site, nor am I anybody important. But this is simply not acceptable, and I have a problem with it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
All those things that you mention aren't anti-theft measures. Those things are the hoops we have to jump through to take control of the devices we've bought and paid for, or are in the process of paying off. They are not intended to prevent the device from being used if the device is lost or stolen.
The account lockout is an anti-theft measure, and I firmly believe that discussing means of circumventing an anti-theft measure should not be allowed on XDA. Obviously, I do not make the rules for the site, nor am I anybody important. But this is simply not acceptable, and I have a problem with it.
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Thing like lockscreen locks, fp locks and facial rec are meant to lock the device yet we show time and time again how to bypass them.
As it is common knowledge that all you have to do is format all partitions and flash a stock image and boom it is bypassed.
To be honest no anti theft measure will ever work on an open source platform mainly not a nexus. That is just something that people have to come to terms with.
My wife and I each bought nexus 6 phones last year, one white and one black. My wife recently passed away. Her phone was locked with a pass code that I unfortunately don't know. I thought that I had a good idea what it was, but when I tried to unlock it Google word the phone and locked it. I want to be able to have this phone for a spare. Can someone tell me how to remedy this problem? I can't see having a$650 worthless brick when when I could have a perfect good spare nexus.
Hello,
Welcome to XDA.
To better assist you, your thread will be moved to your device Q&A forum linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help
The experts there may be able to help. Good luck.
Sorry about the loss of your wife
Sorry to hear about your loss. It is possible you could simply just try to boot it into recovery mode. Have you put a custom recovery on there? IIRC, you can still access a device via ADB in recovery even if it isn't a custom recovery.
This should allow you to flash a new OS to the device and bypass the existing password. Maybe someone else can chime in and correct me if I am wrong. Sorry I haven't tried running without a custom recovery assuming you are.
Just thought I'd point out the possibility (probability) that this is actually a scammer sob story.
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If this was *my* wife, I think I'd have more important things to worry about than trying to break into her phone. I certainly wouldn't be using that as part of a story on the internet for breaking phone security.
OP: If you are NOT a scammer, then sorry to tell you that if you can't figure out the password, you can't gain access to the phone. HOWEVER, proof of purchase and copy of death certificate should be adequate for sending it back to factory for repair.
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Just thought I'd point out the possibility (probability) that this is actually a scammer sob story.
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If this was *my* wife, I think I'd have more important things to worry about than trying to break into her phone. I certainly wouldn't be using that as part of a story on the internet for breaking phone security.
OP: If you are NOT a scammer, then sorry to tell you that if you can't figure out the password, you can't gain access to the phone. HOWEVER, proof of purchase and copy of death certificate should be adequate for sending it back to factory for repair.
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a great idea indeed
but op, if your wife died.. then im really sorry for that..
My train of thought as well @doitright
and as with everyone else, if this is true, sorry for your loss.
PLEASE HELP ME! my phone is "rooted" with 3 third-party apps my BF installed!
I noticed that my nexus 6 was acting funny, and since my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up. The day it arrived, he plugged my phone into his laptop and started typing away at what looked like a black screen and a boxy white font with a bunch of rom codes etc(at this point, i was totally clueless and oblivious to what he was doing)...
Then, he would sporadically bring up specific texts that i had sent, and at times would randomly pinpoint specific addresses and times and asked me about them(mind you, they were my friends homes) which left me to wonder "how the hell did he even know about that text or specific location unless my phone is hacked??"
so, i took my phone to a specialist who confirmed that my phone was rooted with a custom ROM along with 3 third-party apps "kernel adiutor", "pure nexus", and "xda labs".
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
long story short, his mom confirmed recently that he in fact has my phone hacked. can somebody please give me insight on the apps he installed and the purpose they serve?? what kind of access/capabilities does he have now that my phone is rooted even if i restore my phone???
Kernel Auditor Xda labs and pure nexus are not phone hacking apps Xda lab is app by xda community and Kernel Auditor is for tweaking the kernel and i think Pure Nexus is a Custom Rom for the Nexus
If you want to get rid of this you can ask service centre to flash Stock Rom of Nexus phone
Sent from my SM-A9000 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Download a factory image from here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Follow the instructions on the webpage. Doing this will wipe your phone and put it back to 100% stock.
Also lol @ this:
vneedshelpASAP said:
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
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You have a very *very* serious problem.
As khanboyz007 says, the apps you mention are entirely pukka, totally normal, nothing suspicious.
But...
If you can't trust your boyfriend so much that you have to post for help from anonymous strangers, then your problem is far deeper than your Nexus 6. From the technical side of your description, he's done nothing at all wrong, but from reading between the lines you don't trust him, and *that's* a dealbreaker.
Why are you asking us instead of him? Give him a chance to explain. Maybe there's nothing more sinister than you (clearly without any technical knowledge... sorry...) don't have your phone password-protected and he's just looked at your texts - in itself a breach of trust, but still not justifying posting in a public forum to strangers.
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You have a very *very* serious problem.
As khanboyz007 says, the apps you mention are entirely pukka, totally normal, nothing suspicious.
But...
If you can't trust your boyfriend so much that you have to post for help from anonymous strangers, then your problem is far deeper than your Nexus 6. From the technical side of your description, he's done nothing at all wrong, but from reading between the lines you don't trust him, and *that's* a dealbreaker.
Why are you asking us instead of him? Give him a chance to explain. Maybe there's nothing more sinister than you (clearly without any technical knowledge... sorry...) don't have your phone password-protected and he's just looked at your texts - in itself a breach of trust, but still not justifying posting in a public forum to strangers.
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I wouldnt say that at all. If he can tell where she has been and what text she is sending then he installed one of the many monitor apps onto her phone which is illegal.
My advise would be to completely wipe your device. Flash a stock rom and dont let him touch your device.
As for your personal life no one can or has any right to say anything about that. Do what you think is best.
If he knows the locations you've been at its possible he has your google+ share location set where it's shared with him. Or possibly he had set up an email for you on it and is signing into it to track your location. As far as the apps you mentioned they are %100 percent legal, most carrier don't know anything about rooting or custom Roms and will not give you adequate advice. But as they said, you can just flash the stock image, make your own Gmail to sign in or make sure to change your Gmail password. After you do make sure that that you put a password on your device that he doesn't know.
"then he installed one of the many monitor apps onto her phone"
Isn't that what I said...? No trust. This isn't in any way a technical question - it's about their relationship.
And since I've seen your many posts here over the years I know you've got a fair amount of life experience, in which case I can assume that you know of Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is likely to be the correct one, and the simplest explanation here is not that he's installed a monitoring app but is simply looking at the phone. I stand by my comments.
"no one can or has any right to say anything about that"
Yes, I agree, it would be none of my business - *if* she hadn't asked for my advice (as well as yours).
If she has so little trust in her partner, and has asked for advice (technical or otherwise), then the answer has to be "Look very carefully at your relationship".
(P.S. To avoid the inevitable "sexist" comments, yes, I've assumed it's a female poster, but I'm aware that there are alternatives).
To be honest I think it might be a moot point as he is most likely part of this forum and has seen this post.
Then he's got the message...
Or this is just a prank. Like I'm getting private messages from people who haven't even posted yet to fix their phones.
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Or this is just a prank.
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Yes, that same thought had occurred to me. I give the benefit of the doubt unless there's a clear sign that it's a joke, and this one does come close to the edge...
A lot of effort for a not-funny joke though. It would be good if the OP provides some feedback - I do get very fed up with people asking for advice, which is given maybe by half a dozen people who have taken the time and trouble to provide it, only for the OP to vanish into the ether without so much as a "thank you" button press.
Step one, flash the phone back to stock using the links provided eariler posts.
Step two, dump the loser - he is too controlling, and this will never change...
Now that the personal advice has been given, let's bring this thread back to troubleshooting device issues, not relationship issues . Thanks for your cooperation.
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.... my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up.
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Your friend has set up your phone the same way as he should do for himself.
There nothing wrong with rooting and the apps you mentioned.
My idea is that ask him very friendly to flash the latest official stock Rom.
Tell him that you prefer the official rom of Google.
Because you want official support when there is something wrong. And you don't need root acces because you only use 'normal' apps.
As everything there are disadvantages.
A rooted phone allows you to install layers. That makes it possible to choose dark themes. And that's important when you need a better battery life.
I Bet he's using Cerberus. Go into your settings>apps, select to include system apps. You'll be looking for a app name: system framework. If you see this He is tracking you using Ceberus, . This app/service is pretty awesome. I was able to track my phone down, see the texts sent, turn the mic on and listen to where my phone was at. .
Like everyone said flash a new rom. clean slate. Then dump dude, there should be no need for that crap.
Here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
vneedshelpASAP said:
I noticed that my nexus 6 was acting funny, and since my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up. The day it arrived, he plugged my phone into his laptop and started typing away at what looked like a black screen and a boxy white font with a bunch of rom codes etc(at this point, i was totally clueless and oblivious to what he was doing)...
Then, he would sporadically bring up specific texts that i had sent, and at times would randomly pinpoint specific addresses and times and asked me about them(mind you, they were my friends homes) which left me to wonder "how the hell did he even know about that text or specific location unless my phone is hacked??"
so, i took my phone to a specialist who confirmed that my phone was rooted with a custom ROM along with 3 third-party apps "kernel adiutor", "pure nexus", and "xda labs".
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
long story short, his mom confirmed recently that he in fact has my phone hacked. can somebody please give me insight on the apps he installed and the purpose they serve?? what kind of access/capabilities does he have now that my phone is rooted even if i restore my phone???
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to me, a "specialist", it sounds like he did you a favor, by rooting your device, and adding apps that you will need to control your own phone. your "own" i say because otherwise you are just using someone elses device, that you happened to pay for with your money. so, instead of posting a pissy thread, id do a little more research on how to control your own phone, and then tell him thank you.
oh, btw, just because the apps arent from the play store, it does not make them illegal to use, at all. you can use whatever app you want, from wherever you want, LEGALLY.
I'm coming round to istperson's point of view - this thread is beginning to look more and more like an elaborate pointless hoax, and not a very funny one.
There are far too many of these threads where people ask a question and then disappear without the courtesy of a sign-off or even a "thank you". Very discouraging, and makes me less keen on spending my time here trying to help timewasting ingrates...
I'm gonna close this thread for now. If the OP has anything else to add they can contact me again to reopen it.
Not all apps are legal. It really depends on where you are living. As an example. Things like keyloggers, call recorders (depending on local laws) screen recorders and things of this nature are completely legal in some countries like China, while being completely illegal in other places in the world.
Also installing tracking software of any kind on someone's device is also illegal.
We have to remember that many people search for help on something, reg to the forum to get the answer and dont come back until they have another issue. This is becoming far more common as of late.
Hello, I have never posted in this forum before but I really need help, My cousin died a few months ago and ever since we have been trying to bypass his pattern lock, We have tried everything from dusting the phone to see if we could possibly get the pattern somehow that way to watching all his old climbing videos to see if he maybe opened his phone on camera. We are out of options and we do not want to format his phone due to the unknowing of how he died, it does not make sense and we wanna see if he had anything that can help us figure this all out. Is there anything we can do to get past the pattern lock on his phone, currently the phone is in airplane mode because he was living in the USVI and signal and wifi sucked there so at night he would put his phone in Airplane mode.
Thank you for the help.
chrisfisher864 said:
Hello, I have never posted in this forum before but I really need help, My cousin died a few months ago and ever since we have been trying to bypass his pattern lock, We have tried everything from dusting the phone to see if we could possibly get the pattern somehow that way to watching all his old climbing videos to see if he maybe opened his phone on camera. We are out of options and we do not want to format his phone due to the unknowing of how he died, it does not make sense and we wanna see if he had anything that can help us figure this all out. Is there anything we can do to get past the pattern lock on his phone, currently the phone is in airplane mode because he was living in the USVI and signal and wifi sucked there so at night he would put his phone in Airplane mode.
Thank you for the help.
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You say you never posted here before and yet right next to your name it says you've made 30 posts so far and it doesn't lie.. Now regarding the phone, we don't help people bypass passwords/patterns/fingerprint or iris scans or any security at all and the reason we don't help with that is because too many people lie and they're just trying to get a stolen phone unlocked.. If your story is legitimate the phone carrier will help you unlock the phone itself so long as you can prove your story..
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You say you never posted here before and yet right next to your name it says you've made 30 posts so far and it doesn't lie.. Now regarding the phone, we don't help people bypass passwords/patterns/fingerprint or iris scans or any security at all and the reason we don't help with that is because too many people lie and they're just trying to get a stolen phone unlocked.. If your story is legitimate the phone carrier will help you unlock the phone itself so long as you can prove your story..
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Ok so I have not posted since 2011 and forgot I even did, Thanks for being the big man for pointing that out, as to the carrier helping, NO they wont, even with the death certificate and proof of being the father he can not get any help other than a factory reset and that is not what he is looking for, we need the phone to be like it is. Another question would be is there a way to take it out of Airplane mode seeing we do know his login information?
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Ok so I have not posted since 2011 and forgot I even did, Thanks for being the big man for pointing that out, as to the carrier helping, NO they wont, even with the death certificate and proof of being the father he can not get any help other than a factory reset and that is not what he is looking for, we need the phone to be like it is. Another question would be is there a way to take it out of Airplane mode seeing we do know his login information?
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Nope not possible to get it out of airplane mode when the screens locked because if that were possible then a thief could just turn the GPS off and keep the phone hidden.. You're pretty much going to have to read around and search Google..
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Ok so I have not posted since 2011 and forgot I even did, Thanks for being the big man for pointing that out, as to the carrier helping, NO they wont, even with the death certificate and proof of being the father he can not get any help other than a factory reset and that is not what he is looking for, we need the phone to be like it is. Another question would be is there a way to take it out of Airplane mode seeing we do know his login information?
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No help will be provided here, in short this post will be closed by some moderator, legitimate owner ALWAYS can get help from carriers, no matter what, these stories about not getting solutions or help when providing legal proof of ownership are a total lie
winol said:
No help will be provided here, in short this post will be closed by some moderator, legitimate owner ALWAYS can get help from carriers, no matter what, these stories about not getting solutions or help when providing legal proof of ownership are a total lie
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I have no idea why people think we're stupid on here! I know for a fact just like you do that the carrier will help them if they can prove it..
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No help will be provided here, in short this post will be closed by some moderator, legitimate owner ALWAYS can get help from carriers, no matter what, these stories about not getting solutions or help when providing legal proof of ownership are a total lie
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No it's not a lie, The help they provide is doing a factory reset on the phone and we want to keep the data, I know of plenty of programs that will remove the pattern lock but none of them will work on the Note 8. I understand people not helping out because of the security risk and the potential of it being a stolen phone.
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No it's not a lie, The help they provide is doing a factory reset on the phone and we want to keep the data, I know of plenty of programs that will remove the pattern lock but none of them will work on the Note 8. I understand people not helping out because of the security risk and the potential of it being a stolen phone.
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That is hard to proof what you say is a lie or not. We can all say things here but doesn't mean it's the truth or not.
As said before you won't get any help here on bypassing the FRP. (You'll understand if you lost your phone and someone else is trying to unlock your phone, would you want us to help that thief to unlock your phone and get your important files/banking info?)
Only thing I'll say is try a Samsung service center or even getting the police/lawyers to help.
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No it's not a lie, The help they provide is doing a factory reset on the phone and we want to keep the data, I know of plenty of programs that will remove the pattern lock but none of them will work on the Note 8. I understand people not helping out because of the security risk and the potential of it being a stolen phone.
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The thing is we don't know 100% whether it's a lie or not because everyone and I mean everyone who asks us to help them get around the security seems to have some sort of crazy story in order to try to make us think it's legit and they all say the same thing, "I'm not lying." So try to see it from our side.. I don't want to be the person who causes someone else's stuff to be compromised or personal stuff taken or whatever.
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I have no idea why people think we're stupid on here! I know for a fact just like you do that the carrier will help them if they can prove it..
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So just to be clear, Who does he need to talk to when he goes in? He has all his information and the death certificate. I am going to assume that is the information he will need to prove that he is his dad and that was his son. The only store he has been into so far is in WA and they told him the only thing they could do is a factory reset and like I said we want to keep all data.
And just to be clear not one person said your stupid so not sure why you said that, so many people do not come to places like this to get help because of people like you, there is no reason to act like a smart butt for no reason, we are going through a hard time and just trying to find some answers and all I am doing is asking questions, I can not help the fact that the store he went to told him they will only do a factory reset, that does not turn into anyone lying or anything.
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So just to be clear, Who does he need to talk to when he goes in? He has all his information and the death certificate. I am going to assume that is the information he will need to prove that he is his dad and that was his son. The only store he has been into so far is in WA and they told him the only thing they could do is a factory reset and like I said we want to keep all data.
And just to be clear not one person said your stupid so not sure why you said that, so many people do not come to places like this to get help because of people like you, there is no reason to act like a smart butt for no reason, we are going through a hard time and just trying to find some answers and all I am doing is asking questions, I can not help the fact that the store he went to told him they will only do a factory reset, that does not turn into anyone lying or anything.
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Don't go into the stores call the carrier and talk to them and ask for a manager or a level 3 or 4 technician.
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Don't go into the stores call the carrier and talk to them and ask for a manager or a level 3 or 4 technician.
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Thank you.
chrisfisher864 said:
So just to be clear, Who does he need to talk to when he goes in? He has all his information and the death certificate. I am going to assume that is the information he will need to prove that he is his dad and that was his son. The only store he has been into so far is in WA and they told him the only thing they could do is a factory reset and like I said we want to keep all data.
And just to be clear not one person said your stupid so not sure why you said that, so many people do not come to places like this to get help because of people like you, there is no reason to act like a smart butt for no reason, we are going through a hard time and just trying to find some answers and all I am doing is asking questions, I can not help the fact that the store he went to told him they will only do a factory reset, that does not turn into anyone lying or anything.
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Again, no matter what you say, or your sad or bad situation, NOBODY HERE will help you bypass security locks of any kind, it is just like this, ethical forum rules, you know,
If you have proof that you are a relative of the owner of the device and have their death certificate. You could take the device to Samsung and ask them to unlock it for you. However Samsung will probably ask allot of questions and request that you provide official documentation to prove that you are a relative of the deceased person who owned the device.
However nobody in this forum will provide you with any assistance on unlocking the device. As we do not know if the device was obtained illegally.
Honestly I'm not sure even the carrier or one of their techs can bypass the screenlock. If anyone can, it would have to be Samsung.
Remember a couple years ago, the terrorist couple in California who killed several people? The FBI confiscated their iPhones as evidence, and they couldn't bypass the screenlock. The carrier couldn't do it. They went to Apple, who said they could but refused the court order. The FBI finally got a hacker to do it for them.
Not sure if Samsung is as picky as Apple, but if Apple wouldn't unlock an iPhone to potentially prevent more terrorist action, I doubt Samsung will do it to view some family member's videos.
Not trying to be cold about it, but it's a fact.
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If you have proof that you are a relative of the owner of the device and have their death certificate. You could take the device to Samsung and ask them to unlock it for you. However Samsung will probably ask allot of questions and request that you provide official documentation to prove that you are a relative of the deceased person who owned the device.
However nobody in this forum will provide you with any assistance on unlocking the device. As we do not know if the device was obtained illegally.
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I don't think Samsung will do that period and even if they did do that, they're absolutely going to factory reset the phone and he doesn't want them to delete anything and unfortunately that just seems suspicious that someone would want or have a need for another person's personal information.. There's no getting around the fact that it seems suspicious even if he is being honest so I'm certain that they'd factory reset it either way.
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I don't think Samsung will do that period and even if they did do that, they're absolutely going to factory reset the phone and he doesn't want them to delete anything and unfortunately that just seems suspicious that someone would want or have a need for another person's personal information.. There's no getting around the fact that it seems suspicious even if he is being honest so I'm certain that they'd factory reset it either way.
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I don't think it's suspicious he wants to get into a deceased loved ones phone. When my first wife died, it was a blessing to have her password for her phone. Knowing one of the last things she saw was a text from me, etc.
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That said, there's no way to prove his story is legit. And I doubt Samsung or anyone will break into the device
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I don't think it's suspicious he wants to get into a deceased loved ones phone. When my first wife died, it was a blessing to have her password for her phone. Knowing one of the last things she saw was a text from me, etc.
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That said, there's no way to prove his story is legit. And I doubt Samsung or anyone will break into the device
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Yeah I get that and totally understand but Samsung isn't going to feel sorry or anything all they're going to be thinking about is protecting themselves from a lawsuit you know.
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I don't think Samsung will do that period and even if they did do that, they're absolutely going to factory reset the phone and he doesn't want them to delete anything and unfortunately that just seems suspicious that someone would want or have a need for another person's personal information.. There's no getting around the fact that it seems suspicious even if he is being honest so I'm certain that they'd factory reset it either way.
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If he has offical documents proving that he is the relative of the deceased. I am sure that Samsung would be more than willing to help him unlock the device for them. Seeing as Samsung has at hand.
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Yeah I get that and totally understand but Samsung isn't going to feel sorry or anything all they're going to be thinking about is protecting themselves from a lawsuit you know.
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Even if Samsung does take him to court. If the court finds that the documents proving that he is a relative of the decease are genuine. They will order Samsung to do as he asked ASAP. I doubt that Samsung will take him to court if he does have the official documents at hand.
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If he has offical documents proving that he is the relative of the deceased. I am sure that Samsung would be more than willing to help him unlock the device for them. Seeing as Samsung has at hand.
Even if Samsung does take him to court. If the court finds that the documents proving that he is a relative of the decease are genuine. They will order Samsung to do as he asked ASAP. I doubt that Samsung will take him to court if he does have the official documents at hand.
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I'm pretty sure that you read my message wrong.. Anyhow, all I can say is good luck with that, haha! No one's going to order Samsung to do anything!