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Gorilla Glass screen so is a protector necessary?

Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.

Gorilla Glass is tough, but it's not the indestructible thing a lot of people think it is. I still have the factory protector in place.

Cheers Rusty!
Was asking as I'm generally pretty careful with my devices and was thinking it should be durable enough for my jean pocket.

Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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crzycrkr said:
Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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Thanks for the advice crzycrkr - you make a fair point, I'll take a look at the Steinheil.
Cheers, H

my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...

XT69 said:
my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...
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You have not tried any good protectors then. Stick with dry application ones. The wet applications are more rubber like. The Steinheil is called the Ultra Optics I think. Have one on my Transformer and you can't even tell its there and can slide across it just like the glass. I used Boxwave in the past, but they scratched too easily. There are a lot of good protectors out there, just do some reading and stay away from Zagg Invisible Shields no matter what you do.
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I use a cloth pouch for my phone and haven't got any scratches since I got it (launch)
Like crzycrkr said, sand and minerals/stones in general are kryptonite for Gorilla Glass, whereas coins/keys/metal are no problem.
So, in my opinion, if you keep the phone in a pouch, you shouldn't face any serious problems.

Unless some sand finds it's way into the pouch, then you're utterly boned.

harmohn said:
Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.
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Hey dude. Do use a screen protector, my Nokia X6 has Gorilla glass too. but it has some scratches at the screen even when I put it inside a leather case.

Okay fellas, you've convinced me of the use case. I'll invest in a decent protector.
Thanks for all your comments!

i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too

markop90 said:
i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too
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Asphalt is not particularly hard. The only people who don't use screen protectors are the ones who haven't scratched their devices yet. Then they curse amd wwonder why they didn't listen. With the quality of the protectors out there, there's not reason not to get one
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I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.

mike-o2 said:
I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.
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Again, congratulations, but you are lucky and just one scratch away from kicking yourself for not putting one on.

Screen protector is just a thin film that'll not affect the screen's responsiveness, unless ofc you have that Sony bulky one. It is also cheap less than a buck. Why take the risk of a naked screen outdoor?

Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.

mike-o2 said:
Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried a good quality, dry application protector, like a Steinheil ultra clear? 99 out of 100 people wouldn't even know its on, and all 100 wouldn't have a problem with the feel.

No I haven't.
I've used screen Protectors on my former phones and they did statisfy me.
With this phone I still am happy that I don't need one.

First thing I did was taking off the protector when I bought my phone.
Still no scratch, always carrying in my pocket.
The thin protector will not protect the phone from getting scratched for objects which will damage gorilla glass.
Without protector it feels better also.
I don't leave the plastic around the seats in my car also.

Best Skins Ever now taking pre-orders for Nexus 10 skins

http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-10-skin
I find these to be very well made and great on all my devices.

Why would you want to cover the N10 with this? The rubberized texture of the N10 was made to be used "naked'

Techie2012 said:
Why would you want to cover the N10 with this? The rubberized texture of the N10 was made to be used "naked'
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To protect the screen...

robbiev80 said:
To protect the screen...
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Aaahh i thought you were going to get the full body one

I have the full body protector for my phone and I've installed many of these type of protectors but I have to say, installing on a device this big was very difficult. A week later and I still have bubbles! Anyone have toys on how to put these on better?
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robbiev80 said:
To protect the screen...
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gorilla glass 2 baby! no need for plastic protectors!

Techie2012 said:
Why would you want to cover the N10 with this? The rubberized texture of the N10 was made to be used "naked'
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I bought a XOskin screen protector and also their carbon fiber back protector. Used the N10 with the protective film for several days but then removed it. I was thinking about returning the carbon fiber skin beccause it's too smooth compared to the rubberized back of the N10.
After just a few days of usage, what little tackiness the rubberized had is gone and it's fairly slick. I'm not about to clean it with whatever every few days to bring back what little grip it provided. I may slap the carbon fiber skin on after all.

Uh.. I have a hairline scratch in the corner and i still had the factory cover on and babied it. Gorilla glass doesn't protect worth crap.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Jayrod1980 said:
Uh.. I have a hairline scratch in the corner and i still had the factory cover on and babied it. Gorilla glass doesn't protect worth crap.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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Your the best ad for using a screen protector yet!

nissmo66 said:
gorilla glass 2 baby! no need for plastic protectors!
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I decided to raw dog it, too, and see what happens. I've put protectors on every portable device I've had since...well, almost ever. But, when I got a replacement Galaxy Nexus in July, I never got around to putting a protector on the screen. Despite being some off-brand "fortified glass", it's totally unscratched. I take some care to avoid scratching it (nothing else goes in the phone pocket) but I don't carry it in a any kind of case or pouch. Since my Nexus 10 will be treated even more gently (i.e. not living in my pockets), it should be fine without a protector.
If I'm wrong, I'll put a protector on my OLED retina tablet in a couple years.

I've also been using my Galaxy Nexus with "fortified glass" (tempered, but not Corning Gorilla Glass) since the device was released (a year?) with only the 2 part Incipio case that Verizon Wireless sells for it (silicone liner, hard shell around it) - glass completely unprotected. I put the phone in my pocket (pants, shirt, jacket, etc.) every day, use the phone a LOT, have taken it to the beach (generally throw it in a ziplock bag), put it in my backpack, etc, etc. Not single visible scratch on it -- and I'm a stickler for this, as little flaws somehow always manage to grab my attention more than they deserve. Not saying that it's bulletproof by any means - but with reasonable care, my phone with bare glass still looks brand new. The N10 has Gorilla Glass 2 -- again, not impervious, but should hold up quite well to normal wear and tear. I enjoy the bare glass SO much more than the slightly rubbery feel and drag of a protector that it's worth a bit of extra care for me so I can get away with a bare screen.

I have the full body protection. Was a bear to get on, took 2 hours of my time to get all the pieces on and it did not go smoothly. I used to think I was pretty pro at putting wet application protectors on but this is a HUGE device and getting big vinyl film pieces wet and then onto the device without parts folding over and sticking to itself, etc was a night mare. I even messed up the front protector. Loads of bubbles everywhere after over a week. Not BSE's fault at all but I told them of my situation at the same time that I noted my N4 protectors did not have a proximity sensor cut out and they sent me a new full body kit for the n10 for free with my n4 screen protectors. Great customer service!
Can someone who has the full body protector, installed, post some pictures? I would love to see what a device looks like properly installed! I saw the video for XO and they aren't nearly as hard because, well, they aren't really full body protectors. They have one piece that protects the clam shell for the most part in the back but that is it. All corners and sides are completely exposed. Maybe this is good, as there's that nasty edge seem feel from the little individual pieces, but still. If I can't master the full body kit installation this, I'll just rock it with the front screen protector from BSE and order a dry carbon skins back cover from XO. Those dry carbon things are really really easy to install... you can even peel them off and re apply them on another device and it will stay. Loved that type of protector on my Galaxy Nexus. They are not as poor feeling on seams either.
Nevertheless... can someone please post pictures?

Jayrod1980 said:
I have the full body protection. Was a bear to get on, took 2 hours of my time to get all the pieces on and it did not go smoothly. I used to think I was pretty pro at putting wet application protectors on but this is a HUGE device and getting big vinyl film pieces wet and then onto the device without parts folding over and sticking to itself, etc was a night mare. I even messed up the front protector. Loads of bubbles everywhere after over a week. Not BSE's fault at all but I told them of my situation at the same time that I noted my N4 protectors did not have a proximity sensor cut out and they sent me a new full body kit for the n10 for free with my n4 screen protectors. Great customer service!
Can someone who has the full body protector, installed, post some pictures? I would love to see what a device looks like properly installed! I saw the video for XO and they aren't nearly as hard because, well, they aren't really full body protectors. They have one piece that protects the clam shell for the most part in the back but that is it. All corners and sides are completely exposed. Maybe this is good, as there's that nasty edge seem feel from the little individual pieces, but still. If I can't master the full body kit installation this, I'll just rock it with the front screen protector from BSE and order a dry carbon skins back cover from XO. Those dry carbon things are really really easy to install... you can even peel them off and re apply them on another device and it will stay. Loved that type of protector on my Galaxy Nexus. They are not as poor feeling on seams either.
Nevertheless... can someone please post pictures?
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I just installed mine today. Was a breeze. I love bse. Pm me to remind me to post pics of mine installed. I'm out of town until friday, so ill try remember to post them then if no one pm's me.

Best screen protector? . And don't recommend whitestone dome (i will explain why)

So got my shiny new Note 8 week ago. Also with that got the Whitestone Dome screen protector and alcantara case.
Tried to install screen protector:
1st. attempt: The screen lined up incorrectly from the bottom, tried to "lift it up to the position" just created more airbubles and the glue poured out from the sides.
After cleaning my Note 8 with the alcohol swipes, (It was a mess to try to clean the phone AND the glass screen protector)
2. attempt with the second bottle of glue..... There was a dust particle on the glue itself. Great.
Wait for a week to mobilefun to ship me another one. (while doing so i was "dry- practicing" to get it 100% correct this time)
3. attempt was a charm.... until.... when the glue spread there was 2 small air bubbles... Take the second bottle and "tap" the small air bubbles away. (while doing so being extremely nervous about that the screen protector might move or great new bubbles). Managed to get the bigger one out but there was the small one... Didn't get that out.
Light up the UV light and call it a day. Only problem is now there is small air bubble that is pretttty distracting to say the least.
So, now i am with 50€ in my account from the order. (Because i demanded that they refund me this horrible product). I am left to choose new screen protector.
My options that i have read:
- Rearth invisible defender - The problem with this is that there is "snowfall" effect and the screen is too damn sticky (according to reviews)
- IQ Shield - The problem with this is that the S-pen (according to reviews) leaves trails to the TPU protector. Because it's so soft and it will not cure overtime.
-Zagg invisible shield - Unresponsivnes and the fact that it has "raimbow" -effect on the screen.
New one that i just founded out about:
-Powerpeak Base- According to this guy (Install Jimmy is Promo's "Base Screen protector for Samsung GALAXY S8 & Note 8 here) Its pretty good. Might be ad though... Does any of you have experience on this?
The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.

I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.

Bullitt3309 said:
I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am sort of guy, who can easily mess things like that up... So not going to risk it.

Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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DAvid_B said:
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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I did check that thanks! Only problem is that i live in EU (Finland) And Amazon will not ship that item to me.... Looked up in Ebay and they will add 20€+ to the original price...
Bummer tho,.

Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.

Base TGSP is a piece of shot
That Jimmy guy sounds like an infomercial

Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer

xile6 said:
Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?

I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...

Limeybastard said:
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.

KBeckett said:
I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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Im primarily using and trying non glass type films, similar to the stuff used to protect car paint protection. My background includes being able to apply paint protection film on cars so these are all from the same mold that I have been trying. BTW, heat of a hairdryer will aid in adhering the curved edges once applied- slight tip.
I have not tried IQShield yet, sorry. So far the Spigen one fitted well coverage wise,but their film is very aggressive in the orange peel front,
I might try Skinomi next, but I have heard they cut their films short to save a few bucks.
Lets liase and share our experiences with these type of films, cheers.

Thanks for all of you for the help and responses.
Yes the IQshield and Skinomi are on the top of my list... They are around 20€ including shipping to Finland from Ebay. A bit expensive but lets see....

Im currently using IQshield version 2 (case friendly) for about a week now.
I've done a lot of wet install before so i know what to expect using this type of screen protector. Its been a week now and so far no lifting on the curve part of the screen. it is smooth to touch, sensitivity is normal and very good. Im using a VRSdesign slim case and it works well, all corners fitted very well.
I also used skinomi before and if i remember it right IQshield is more smoother than skinomi in-terms of orange peel feeling. The only problem that is s-pen will leave marks when used with this kind of screen protector. (i tried it at the very bottom and its still have mark after a week)
I can give this IQshield a 7.5/10 score. LOL

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The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
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I used the tip of placing painter's tape over the speaker. I covered the speaker enough to not interfere with the glass. It worked great! I do have three small bubbles after two tries but can't see them unless I try. My wife's has one bubble in about the same spot as mine. The lower left corner about 1/3 up the screen where the curve starts. There a number of ways to avoid the creation of bubbles. I couldn't say them all because I'm not an expert in LOCA glue and it's properties. Experimentation is the only way to find out.

Whitestone Dome Glass said:
Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
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I am glad that you have started beeing more on forums and social media. I want to thank you for sending me a new one. Now i am waiting for it. Hope this time works.

To be honest, it will be difficult to actually get most tempered glass protectors to stay on this curved glass.. Its a pain and it sucks because I would actually like to get one. I just ordered the whitestore myself..., but they wont be in stock again until the 30th...
I got the PowerPeak Base and it is utter garbage. I lost atleast 30% touch sensitivity and then it just eventually slid off of my phone from me trying to swipe so hard. The middle actually dried up and there was nothing holding the middle to the phone.
I despise the wet installs. They are too soft and will leave indents as you said.. So really its either try tempered glass protectors until you find the one you want, go with indents and wet installs, or just go no screen protector like me!
I have the wet install spigen ones but I tbh would rather go with no protector than use them.

I ordered and installed this on my Note 8 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074G1W2RC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Along with a Spigen Tough Armor case. It seems to work well and no real screen sensitivity issues either.

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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
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I get the case friendly 2pack. And havent had problems with lifting.
Had my note 8 since sept 8 and been caseless and no lifting.

Anyone planning on using a cheap protector with LOCA glue needs to check the strength of the LOCA. Some have reported they were not able to remove the protector after using some LOCA glue.
I had 3 attempts at the Dome Glass myself. The first one I got had a broken bridge. I could not get the glue in the right spot. Whitestone refunded me. I bought the next set from Amazon. Everything was perfect until I peeled the plastic off the back of the protector. There must have been a fleck of dirt near the side. I did not see it as I did not have enough light.
I sent the second one back to Amazon and just had to pay return shipping. With the third one I took a different approach. I used a totally level counter top in the bathroom. I ran the shower with hot water for about 10 minutes so the whole bathroom was steamed up. This kept the dust down. I cleaned the phone screen and when I removed the plastic from the protector, it somehow grabbed another piece of dirt. Due to the extreme lighting, I saw it and removed it before installing. It installed perfectly with no dust/dirt or air bubbles. I did the first cure with the UV light then took it out of the jig and wiped the sides, top and bottom with an alcohol pad. I then did the final cure. Not one ounce of glue seeped out. I did not protect the speaker or anything else. If this is done perfectly, this is the absolute best protector available IMHO. The problem is anything short of a perfect install will drive many of us with OCD crazy.
On Monday we traded in my Mothers iPhone and she went with a Note 8. The Dome Glass arrived today. This time, perfect install the first time. I wish Whitestone would include 2 pieces of glass per package since this is the most expensive Note 8 protector. Their CS is a bit slow but they did take care of me in the end. It's a bit of a ripoff to sell the kit for 49 but then only sell the glass and one tube of glue for 39. The refill pack should be 15-20 at the highest.
After a week, none of my edges are lifting at all. Some may be using cases that are not compatible. My protector does not touch my case at anyplace. I think cases that touch the protector have a good chance of raising the edges. Even if the case looks fine after install, if grabbing it makes the case touch the glass, it will eventually lift and get bubbles.

Question S21 Ultra tempered glass screen protector

Tried to search for a thread talking about tempered glass screen protectors for S21 ultra and had no luck. Anybody have good recommendations for a decent one that's priced well?

I bought this screen protector from Amazon. It fits great: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RYXF8F6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I know it's definitely worth it for the phone but anything a little cheaper. $40 is completely reasonable for two especially because it's a $1200 phone

Get a good case with raised guards around the screen and good corner protection.
That should be your primary screen protection.
That plus a wet apply urethane screen protector works fine.
Glass does not compress and is subject to the laws of hydraulics. It can behave in strange and seemingly unpredictable ways to stress.

anish88 said:
I know it's definitely worth it for the phone but anything a little cheaper. $40 is completely reasonable for two especially because it's a $1200 phone
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Spigen has one for 30

blackhawk said:
Get a good case with raised guards around the screen and good corner protection.
That should be your primary screen protection.
That plus a wet apply urethane screen protector works fine.
Glass does not compress and is subject to the laws of hydraulics. It can behave in strange and seemingly unpredictable ways to stress.
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Definitely agree with that! Does the camera need protection as well?

anish88 said:
Definitely agree with that! Does the camera need protection as well?
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A raised case guard around the module and just keep your fingers off it.
The outside glass is the factory lense guard; it's replaceable. I operated my 10+ like this for almost a year and a half. I clean it with a dry microfiber cloth as needed. It's made of plastic. No scratches on it whatsoever... and I like in a dusty desert town.

blackhawk said:
A raised case guard around the module and just keep your fingers off it.
The outside glass is the factory lense guard; it's replaceable. I operated my 10+ like this for almost a year and a half. I clean it with a dry microfiber cloth as needed. It's made of plastic. No scratches on it whatsoever... and I like in a dusty desert town.
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It's replaceable? Is that easy? I have a raised case but im coming from an s9+ and didn't protect that which was fine. I just want to protect it as well as I can.

Also I found a deal for the amfilm protector if you guys want.
Galaxy S21 Ultra
(2 Pack) amFilm Tempered Glass Screen Protector for Galaxy S21 Ultra [amazon.com] 5G 6.8 Inch, Fully Compatible with UltraSonic Fingerprint Scanner, UV Gel Application
20% off Coupon Code to make final price $19.99 use code: Q3HIKIHR
Plus this 30% OFF Universal Claim code (For Galaxy S21 products): MLIX9RW8
Brought it to 19.99

anish88 said:
It's replaceable? Is that easy? I have a raised case but im coming from an s9+ and didn't protect that which was fine. I just want to protect it as well as I can.
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Not sure how it's mounted on that phone. The 10+'s looks like it uses a adhesive strip and pops out. Might need to replace the back panel though.
You'll probably need to replace the battery long before the lense guard.
Not sure why people focus on this as with a good case it's well protected and relatively easy to replace. The display and frame are not...

Phone fell out of my pants pocket in the car. Hit the seat and the metal guard underneath the seat. Glass scratched on screen already....needless to say that just about anything will scratch the glass that is metal

Chavist1 said:
Glass scratched on screen already....needless to say that just about anything will scratch the glass that is metal
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Can you elaborate - what was the situation with your screen?
1) did you scratch the pre-installed protector the phone shipped with, and the glass screen underneath is still fine?
2) did you scratch the naked gorilla glass screen because you had peeled off the pre-installed protector?
3) did you install your own glass protector, and that's what scratched here?
4) other situation?

Samsung pre-installs a plastic film screen protector for you, so dont flip out about small scratches on the display.

WHITESTONE DOME , always Whitestone Dome. I spend >1300 on a phone, you're G**damn right I'm gonna drop 75-90 on my glass cover.
The new one is almost totally automated. These guys are incredible. When I've dropped my phones in the past, the WSDome cracks, but never my phone screen. Just sayin.

white stone is now 45.99 on amazon along with a camera cover package... for those curious enough to try... like me... I feel like it works for 50% of the people and the rest of us will be sad after we put it on... I hope you 50% are not lying.. special place in hell for you if you are.... I've been using a tpu type film.. although its ok for finger prints.. it feels different than glass and smudges are harder to clean. and every time it there's an angle you see all kinds of marks on it... so annoying... I guess I can't handle it any longer and am willing to bite the bullet.... wish me luck....

johnp357 said:
white stone is now 45.99 on amazon along with a camera cover package... for those curious enough to try... like me... I feel like it works for 50% of the people and the rest of us will be sad after we put it on... I hope you 50% are not lying.. special place in hell for you if you are.... I've been using a tpu type film.. although its ok for finger prints.. it feels different than glass and smudges are harder to clean. and every time it there's an angle you see all kinds of marks on it... so annoying... I guess I can't handle it any longer and am willing to bite the bullet.... wish me luck....
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I have the amFilm version of this and it's definitely the way to go.
That's a decent deal and I suggest to buy it and try it. Hold onto the installation kit and light that comes with it. After you go through the 2 included glass screens, you can buy new LOCA glue screens on ebay for cheap and use the installation kit and light from the Whitestone.

How's the fingerprint detection? Even the expensive Whitestone has people complaining about fingerprint detection...and for the money that's crazy. It should work 90% of the time for the money they want. I may try the amfilm

AMFILM codes don't work anymore

HLyons said:
How's the fingerprint detection? Even the expensive Whitestone has people complaining about fingerprint detection...and for the money that's crazy. It should work 90% of the time for the money they want. I may try the amfilm
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I'm happy with fingerprint detection for the most part. It's a tough time of year weather-wise. When hands are dry, its harder to read, and thats true for any fingerprint scanner. Instead of registering 4 different fingers, I register each thumb in 2 spots which increases my detection rate. When fingers are not as dry, detection is extremely quick, like having no screen protector. I imagine the amFilm and Whitestone are pretty identical as far as the glass and LOCA glue. The installation kits look a little bit different. Whitestone dome has been around for a while and i think this type of protector is newer for amFilm. I've been using the regular amFilm tempered glass on many other phones and have been happy with them. And their customer service is top notch.

I was not going to bother with a glass protector due to the warnings about the fingerprint scanner but someone sent me a link to an install video that mentions the FP scanner. They recommend hard pressing the area for 15-30 seconds before curing with UV light. Afterwards, he demonstrates FP scanner working really well. I've ordered the screen protector after watching that.
Link to the part of video when he tests it.

Question Can you rely on the screen protector that comes with the phone?

I am using the screen protector that came with the phone but I am worried that it might not be that good to rely on.
I am not taking about dropping the phone or something. All am I caring about is scratches from the pen or stuff in my pocket. Can this screen protector help against these or it is useless?
The reason I kept it, because it fit so well and it does not affect the screen quality.

Obviously experience may vary quite a bit due to different conditions. For me so far the stock protector works quite well and protects the screen from scratches.
But as I like the "Glass feeling" a bit more I'll fit a tempered glass protector sometime in the future....

Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits

Khalid Madkour said:
Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits
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Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something

MasterThiefGarrett said:
Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something
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Spending 70~100 USD to protect 1200$ is worth it but the problem these kind of screen protectors can not be found in Egypt I think so until I find a way to get them without paying much taxes and fees I will stick with the default S.protector

I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...

I had problems with the finger reader. He caught the fourth, fifth time. (I added the same one a couple of times and it didn't help.) Today I took off the factory foil and magic. The reader catches off the shot every time!

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I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...
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I tried a cheap UV-based tempered glass (10 euros) and on my Note 10 it works flawless every time.
And since the S21 series has a much bigger sensor I expect it to work fine as well, I know Whitestone Dome works fine, AND the AmFilm one too.

I used Note 8 for 3 years without screen protector and had maybe 1 micro scratch that was only visible when screen off. Now still using S21U with pre installed screen protector but the feeling of it is not so good, very rubbery especially if fingers are wet. Debetaing to take it of because I have some problems with fingerprint reader too, it's not bad but sometimes it's not detecting the finger.

Make sure your case has a lip guard. That has always worked for me.

I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.

enigmaamit said:
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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A case with enough lip protection is good enough.

Thank you for sharing you experience. I decided to stay with the factory screen protector. It really love it as it fits the screen so well and is clear as if there was no screen protector.
enigmaamit said:
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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nixnixnixnix4 said:
A case with enough lip protection is good enough.
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Yes. For most purposes, I agree with you that it's enough. I used to think so too... Never used a screen protector on any of my phones. Tried the tempered glass one on my last phone but felt it was too thick and reflective, so there is away and went with a naked screen. The experience was amazing, interfacing with the screen without any barriers. At least until I got two mysterious scratches on my OnePlus 6 screen, about 2 months apart, one after the other. Never dropped the phone, didn't put it face down, just used it normally. Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.

Second day I had my Note 10+ it faceplanted on a rough piece of 1/8" thick aluminum angle from pocket height. The metal hit the curve portion of the screen. Oh Yeah... isn't that special?
The case soaked up some of the impact but the factory screen protect was hit and savaged.
It protected the screen, zero damage. gulp.
Been using wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild after trying a bunch of products including Whitestone.
After 9 months it's still on and while it's due to be replaced it's held up amazing well for $5 a pop.
Unlike the other junk, it's easy to apply and line up properly
I use the Zizo Bolt case to provide to majority of the protection. Raised screen guards on all sides are needed as I learned earlier
After 1.5 years, zero damage.

enigmaamit said:
Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.
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Sand will do it every time. I tried the same experiment over 2 years ago with the same results. I always use a good case and screen protector because permanent scratches pi$$ me off.

Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.

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Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.
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And very effective when using a good case.
BDU upper pant leg cargo pockets are great for smartphones...just make sure to keep the rear facing button, buttoned or your will lose it