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If not is this the reason why the majority of Lollipop roms for the Mi3 & Mi4 are buggy etc ?
As far as i know, the kernel has been released but partially. Some drivers (modules) has not.
Sounds about right. Thats a shame though. I hope this is rectified for future Xiaomi devices, because so far Cancro devices have had alot of roms showing up on XDA.
I dont think xiaomi will release this kind of things because their goal is make you buy a new phone.. we should skip buying xiaomi devices..
is this the reason devs are facing problem is building a Stable Lollipop ?
So, is it possible to port Miui 13 (Android 12) or any future update (Miui14, 15) to Mi8 or other unsupported device. I know the community is exceptionally strong with this kind of mods, and there is a lot of developers that are familiar with Miui and how it works, so I am hopeful that this will happen. Nothing against AOSP roms, but I think miui works best on MI devices, so it would be great if it's possible to take Miui13 from supported device like mi12 and combine it with necessary files for Mi 8. There is huge work done from our Chinese friends on uotan.cn so I hope there is gonna be even more updates.
Impossible... Case closed
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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When Xiaomi stops updating an android version, developers must also follow to continue the development of their rom.
Nothing prevents you from staying in A12, security will be and will remain on the date of the last rom in A12.
Xiaomi for some time has preferred to sell phones rather than provide bug-free roms before moving on to another newer android version.
For example, the beta stables are updated via OTA but it is just indicated Stable on the phone, moreover for some phones the beta stables are just renamed stable later when it is exactly the same rom without bug fixes.
For me the A12 Aosp roms are crude and ugly only reason that makes me stay on MIUI but I am from the old school.
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I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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The right answer for this is: depends on the resources that community have to preserve the older build. I'm talking about people and hardware. If there's none, they have to move forward to newer one and ditch the older. Why Lineage could support several versions android because they have resources to do so. Most don't have that luxury.
Yes, most custom Android 12 ROMs should be abandoned in the next 2-3 months. Some devs may keep updating 12 if they aren't confident in 13, but that's a bit rare. If you are on a stable Android ROM, stick with that for a year or so even if it means no updates. I plan to upgrade to Android 12 now, have been on Android 11, and when Android 14 comes out, I'll upgrade to Android 13. You might be able to do an in-place upgrade to Android 13 rather than clean installing, if you are lucky.
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I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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I am on the same boat. Was running LOS 18.1 happily on Oneplus. Then purchased Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro and sh*t started. No official Lineage so started research. Found Arrow to be close. Official and vanilla.
The A11 development was already gone so went with A12 as a future proof option (as I thought). They killed it quick and went 12L. I flashed A12L but after a short while they quit that and went A13. I did not even started to think about swap and they are at A13.1 that I read have bugs.
I wish that development power went in the same direction but no, there are tons of custom ROMs for 'sweet' but I couldn't find stable and polished one. Started to regret that I got a device that is not supported by LOS.
When I got my Note 10 pro last year, I also wanted a device with LineageOS support. But this was the best hardware I could find inexpensively that seemed like it had a lot of development interest, so it's what I went with.
I tried some custom ROMs when I first got it, but was disappointed and went with xiaomi.eu for a long time instead. It's only recently that LineageOS has become available, though it's not official.
Hey guys I’m thinking of flashing a android 13 custom Rom long term. Which one is the best ?
Android 13?, Do you mean Miui 13?, if A13 then i dont think many have installed them as theres only a couple available, very early days as yet, if you search through questions im sure someone else asked about A13 roms and testing them.
Try Project Elixir 3.0 or EvoX 7.1
I like crdroid
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I like crdroid
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Up to now crDroid is running under Android 12 and not yet under Android 13.
first, you have to decide between aosp or miui based ROMs
EvoX 7.1 is pretty cool
For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life
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For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life
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Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features
BMHater12 said:
Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features
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I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.
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I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.
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PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build
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PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build
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Thank You for this information.
Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.
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Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.
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not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.
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not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.
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It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.
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I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me
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i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.
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Work definitely goes into any ROM. I will say this, ANY ROM here is better than stock MIUI and that's a fact
jnsson said:
I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me
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hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?
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hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?
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Android 12.1 version. AFAIK there is no Android 13 PixelOS version yet
On one hand it looks like EEA has finally catched up with most of the missing features from Xiaomi.eu/China(see PS) and you're also getting Android 13, easy OTAs, ability to lock the bootloader and a whole bunch of optimization and new features from MIUI 14. And a bigger support community since it's the official ROM after all. And access to even more BETAs since Xiaomi.eu doesn't do betas on this device
On the other hand, all of this will come to xiaomi.eu when the stable's out anyway. And it will probably be even better than stock. And there still might be a few missing Chinese features that will never be added to EEA/Global.
It's really mixed for me tbh. What do you guys think ? What are you going to do ?
PS: I know there's no China ROM for 11T Pro, but Xiaomi.eu actually ports Chinese features even without the Chinese ROM.
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On one hand it looks like EEA has finally catched up with most of the missing features from Xiaomi.eu/China(see PS) and you're also getting Android 13, easy OTAs, ability to lock the bootloader and a whole bunch of optimization and new features from MIUI 14. And a bigger support community since it's the official ROM after all. And access to even more BETAs since Xiaomi.eu doesn't do betas on this device
On the other hand, all of this will come to xiaomi.eu when the stable's out anyway. And it will probably be even better than stock. And there still might be a few missing Chinese features that will never be added to EEA/Global.
It's really mixed for me tbh. What do you guys think ? What are you going to do ?
PS: I know there's no China ROM for 11T Pro, but Xiaomi.eu actually ports Chinese features even without the Chinese ROM.
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Better time to stay on the Xiaomi EU rom and keep the advantages that do not exist on the stock (call recorder, Full themes, etc.).
On a stock beta version you can have bugs, sometimes not too serious or sometimes you will have to downgrade.
When it comes to stock ROM support, you will only get answers if you want to buy a new phone.
I had the 11 t pro but disappointed with the autonomy and I replaced it with a 12 pro which initially had less autonomy than the 11 t pro with A12 but A13 corrected this problem.
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Better time to stay on the Xiaomi EU rom and keep the advantages that do not exist on the stock (call recorder, Full themes, etc.).
On a stock beta version you can have bugs, sometimes not too serious or sometimes you will have to downgrade.
When it comes to stock ROM support, you will only get answers if you want to buy a new phone.
I had the 11 t pro but disappointed with the autonomy and I replaced it with a 12 pro which initially had less autonomy than the 11 t pro with A12 but A13 corrected this problem.
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I'm getting around 6h SOT on my device...which I also think it's kinda mediocre. What about you ?
What if A13 fixes battery on 11T Pro as well.
AS for tech support, I guess the stock has a bigger community where I can find the issues easier. But the xiaomi.eu community is much nerdier, so it depends lol
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I'm getting around 6h SOT on my device...which I also think it's kinda mediocre. What about you ?
What if A13 fixes battery on 11T Pro as well.
AS for tech support, I guess the stock has a bigger community where I can find the issues easier. But the xiaomi.eu community is much nerdier, so it depends lol
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My SOT is never the same, what I see is that since A13 I charge my phone less often and I've gone from 24 hours to 30/36 hours.
Many report the improvement in autonomy with A13.
"AS for tech support, I guess the stock has a bigger community where I can find the issues easier. But the xiaomi.eu community is much nerdier, so it depends lol"
On Xiaomi Eu rom you have to be precise and make a logcat for bugs.
Yes, but I'm getting older and contrary to most of this community, I don't like tinkering with my device that much anymore. I see that MIUI 14 introduces most of the features that I loved from xiaomi.eu and I'd love the comfort of OTAs, safety and no headaches due to having an unlocked bootloader and just generally, the ease of use of a stock device with no sort of tinkering whatsoever. And just easier back-ups. Also, I'd like having beta access to Xiaomi since xiaomi.eu has none for my device
Now, I'm wondering if flashing using the official xiaomi tool will just lock bootloader and fix/restore everything to stock.
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Yes, but I'm getting older and contrary to most of this community, I don't like tinkering with my device that much anymore. I see that MIUI 14 introduces most of the features that I loved from xiaomi.eu and I'd love the comfort of OTAs, safety and no headaches due to having an unlocked bootloader and just generally, the ease of use of a stock device with no sort of tinkering whatsoever. And just easier back-ups. Also, I'd like having beta access to Xiaomi since xiaomi.eu has none for my device
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Xiaomi eu has the play store certified without root and with the unlocked bootloader and updates via OTA.
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Now, I'm wondering if flashing using the official xiaomi tool will just lock bootloader and fix/restore everything to stock.
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Betas will still be based on the Global.
Betas are test roms to finalize the global stable.
NOSS8 said:
Xiaomi eu has the play store certified without root and with the unlocked bootloader and updates via OTA.
Betas will still be based on the Global.
Betas are test roms to finalize the global stable.
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Wait, isn't the beta based on EEA ? I look at the roms and beta was available only for EEA
case81 said:
Wait, isn't the beta based on EEA ? I look at the roms and beta was available only for EEA
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Global or EEA same base except that the EEA includes restrictions following the European directives.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-14-global-stable-14-0-3-any-good-opinion.4542647/
case81 said:
On one hand it looks like EEA has finally catched up with most of the missing features from Xiaomi.eu/China(see PS) and you're also getting Android 13, easy OTAs, ability to lock the bootloader and a whole bunch of optimization and new features from MIUI 14. And a bigger support community since it's the official ROM after all. And access to even more BETAs since Xiaomi.eu doesn't do betas on this device
On the other hand, all of this will come to xiaomi.eu when the stable's out anyway. And it will probably be even better than stock. And there still might be a few missing Chinese features that will never be added to EEA/Global.
It's really mixed for me tbh. What do you guys think ? What are you going to do ?
PS: I know there's no China ROM for 11T Pro, but Xiaomi.eu actually ports Chinese features even without the Chinese ROM.
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Hi, I had quite a nooby question, I have an Indian variant of 11T Pro which is running on its latest Indian variant of MIUI, can I relock my bootloader during flashing of EEA variant of MIUI or will that brick my device? Not sure if this the correct thread, I'm sorry if it isn't, didn't know where to ask this question. Thanks
walidwhite said:
Hi, I had quite a nooby question, I have an Indian variant of 11T Pro which is running on its latest Indian variant of MIUI, can I relock my bootloader during flashing of EEA variant of MIUI or will that brick my device? Not sure if this the correct thread, I'm sorry if it isn't, didn't know where to ask this question. Thanks
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On this device (VILI) you can re-lock the bootloader with any stock fastboot rom with Miflash.