Android 11 is it possible to get it on the XZ2 - Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers

So with Android 11 being released. I am curious to know if anyone out there ever got their XZ2 onto the beta test builds for Android 11 and whether or not we would be able to update to Android 11 even if Sony excludes us from their device update list? With Google saying that they want to build a more universal and inclusive Android platform for all devices,i am wondering if they are going to stick to the statement that all phones would be able to download and install new updates irrespective of whether or not they still have manufacturer support or not.

Android 11? It will be an outdated system in a moment. Better to wait for Android 20 right away. The difference will then be noticeable.

krzysiek1984 said:
Android 11? It will be an outdated system in a moment. Better to wait for Android 20 right away. The difference will then be noticeable.
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Android 11 for lilac and further development

Hi developers.
I has stolen my lilac but i want to know about further development plan for this device, if is worthy to buy it again primary for testing roms, learning to code cause they are plenty and running new android 10 but still have restrictive bugs like not working lockscreen, battery drain or lower touchscreen sensitivity, except HavocOS.
And how it will be with Android 11?
It's still too early to tell what things will look like with Android 11. Sony only just officially released the A11 binaries for the XZ1C, so development is possible and likely. But we'll just have to wait and see
https://www.xda-developers.com/sony...-guide-and-binaries-for-select-xperia-phones/
I have A11 working on my xz1c, however it seems finicky to boot. Tried to install gapps on it but have not found a way.
Havoc OS (Official) has plans to update Lilac to Android 11 with it's next update. Last version of Android 10 was just released today

Best rom based on Android 11

Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10, i would like to pass to 11, but actually my A2 is my daily driver, so i am a little scared .
In your opinion, which is the most stable rom based on 11 have you tried?
Thank you all in advance.
HTCDevil said:
Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10, i would like to pass to 11, but actually my A2 is my daily driver, so i am a little scared .
In your opinion, which is the most stable rom based on 11 have you tried?
Thank you all in advance.
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If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
Phil_Smith said:
If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
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Thank you for your answer, clear
Phil_Smith said:
If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
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So, custom rom with Android 11 aren't stable?
John974 said:
So, custom rom with Android 11 aren't stable?
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Well, in the first phase of a new android release all ROMs
- Are basically the same (pure aosp with different branding)
- Have no additional features to pure aosp
- Will have many issues to sort out in general and for the respective device (like bugs, fast draining, random reboots, inconsistencies across versions).
- Might conflict or not be fully compatible with third party software (gapps, Magisk, any random app).
Any of these points might be the case still, so I wouldn't advise anyone expecting a stable daily driver to use android 11 for now.
None of these points has to apply though, as time for development passes.
If you want to urgently try out an 11 ROM and you don't heavily depend on your phone's functionality, why not do it? I also did it (and moved back to 10).
The question anyone should ask him- or herself though is: Which advantages do you expect from it?
That is, other than a higher version number...
Phil_Smith said:
Well, in the first phase of a new android release all ROMs
- Are basically the same (pure aosp with different branding)
- Have no additional features to pure aosp
- Will have many issues to sort out in general and for the respective device (like bugs, fast draining, random reboots, inconsistencies across versions).
- Might conflict or not be fully compatible with third party software (gapps, Magisk, any random app).
Any of these points might be the case still, so I wouldn't advise anyone expecting a stable daily driver to use android 11 for now.
None of these points has to apply though, as time for development passes.
If you want to urgently try out an 11 ROM and you don't heavily depend on your phone's functionality, why not do it? I also did it (and moved back to 10).
The question anyone should ask him- or herself though is: Which advantages do you expect from it?
That is, other than a higher version number...
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Thank you for all those informations. I was hoping Android 11 would bring more functionality, stability and smoothness, but it seems to me rather the opposite. There is also no more security patch for Android 10 looks like. Everyone is working on Android 11.
John974 said:
Thank you for all those informations. I was hoping Android 11 would bring more functionality, stability and smoothness, but it seems to me rather the opposite.
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What I'm saying isn't android 11 specific, but counts for every instance in which a new android release comes out.
It has been the same with android 6 and 7, then with 7 and 8 and so on.
Android 11 might bring functionality, stability and smoothness. But it is too early in development to expect all of this just yet, is all I'm saying.
Phil_Smith said:
What I'm saying isn't android 11 specific, but counts for every instance in which a new android release comes out.
It has been the same with android 6 and 7, then with 7 and 8 and so on.
Android 11 might bring functionality, stability and smoothness. But it is too early in development to expect all of this just yet, is all I'm saying.
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Yes you're right. Thanks for your opinion.
HTCDevil said:
Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10.
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AFAIK Pixel Extended is based on Android 11 and Pixel Experience is based on Android 10.
1ntr0v3rt3ch said:
AFAIK Pixel Extended is based on Android 11 and Pixel Experience is based on Android 10.
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Pixel Extended is now based on Android 11 (from a month), but i have old version based on 10. You should inform. See screenshot :good:
HTCDevil said:
Pixel Extended is now based on Android 11 (from a month), but i have old version based on 10. You should inform. See screenshot :good:
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kindly share the link of this ROM? I will try it also in my spare time. thanks!
edit: Found the link in sourceforge. Thanks!

android 11

Is there anyone out there developing an android 11 rom for this device?
If you are referring to a stock Android 11 one then there will be a version of LineageOS. That's 99.9% guaranteed. But I don't really count those as updates for me as I'd like a OneUI 3, 3.1, etc ROM for a Note9. If I want stock Android why'd I buy a Note right? The S7 had a OneUI 2.0 ROM so it's not impossible, just depends if a developer is willing to work on it. In 2021 there will be a few Android 11 ROMs for the Note9 as it's a really popular device.
PS: Even if there is such a ROM most Note9 exclusive features like the Iris Scanner etc won't work as newer phones simply don't have them. Could be wrong on this one though.

Question Will Redmi Note 11 get Android 13?

Since Android 12 is coming out, I want to know if Xiaomi will ever release Android 13 in Redmi Note 11.
I don't intend to root or put custom rom yet. But I will do once Xiaomi stops supporting the device.
So, maybe I will flash custom rom later.
Currently with MIUI 13.0.15 android. Xiaomi Ram management is very bad.
Hi Pulsar,
If you download MIUI Downloader, or MIUI Updater.... It will tell you what MIUI and Android versions your device should get. When I last looked, it did say that we are due to get Android 13.
But seeing as they've not resolved/fixed Android 12 for our device yet, I think it will be at least another year away before we see Android 13 on this device anytime soon....
As most of us are still stuck on Android 11, unless with force-flash the A12 firmware....
Cheers, Lister
pulsar said:
Since Android 12 is coming out, I want to know if Xiaomi will ever release Android 13 in Redmi Note 11.
I don't intend to root or put custom rom yet. But I will do once Xiaomi stops supporting the device.
So, maybe I will flash custom rom later.
Currently with MIUI 13.0.15 android. Xiaomi Ram management is very bad.
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Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Pulsar,
If you download MIUI Downloader, or MIUI Updater.... It will tell you what MIUI and Android versions your device should get. When I last looked, it did say that we are due to get Android 13.
But seeing as they've not resolved/fixed Android 12 for our device yet, I think it will be at least another year away before we see Android 13 on this device anytime soon....
As most of us are still stuck on Android 11, unless with force-flash the A12 firmware....
Cheers, Lister
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Lister Of Smeg said:
I do agree with Lister. Yestaday I flashed/locked/cleaned my RN11 with MiFlash Tool all the way back to android 11 and then after using it for few minutes this so called "update available dialogue" appeared on my screen. Obviously I clicked download but when It got updated, Duh it was way sluggish than the beta recovery rom. A lot of minor but necessary stuff was missing. Then again I unlocked the bootloader, installed recovery and flashed Evo X A12 rom. The struggle was real and the rom came out to be smooth as well.
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Question Will the custom rom developers abandon the Android 12 roms like they did with 11?

I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
gasperoni said:
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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When Xiaomi stops updating an android version, developers must also follow to continue the development of their rom.
Nothing prevents you from staying in A12, security will be and will remain on the date of the last rom in A12.
Xiaomi for some time has preferred to sell phones rather than provide bug-free roms before moving on to another newer android version.
For example, the beta stables are updated via OTA but it is just indicated Stable on the phone, moreover for some phones the beta stables are just renamed stable later when it is exactly the same rom without bug fixes.
For me the A12 Aosp roms are crude and ugly only reason that makes me stay on MIUI but I am from the old school.
gasperoni said:
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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The right answer for this is: depends on the resources that community have to preserve the older build. I'm talking about people and hardware. If there's none, they have to move forward to newer one and ditch the older. Why Lineage could support several versions android because they have resources to do so. Most don't have that luxury.
Yes, most custom Android 12 ROMs should be abandoned in the next 2-3 months. Some devs may keep updating 12 if they aren't confident in 13, but that's a bit rare. If you are on a stable Android ROM, stick with that for a year or so even if it means no updates. I plan to upgrade to Android 12 now, have been on Android 11, and when Android 14 comes out, I'll upgrade to Android 13. You might be able to do an in-place upgrade to Android 13 rather than clean installing, if you are lucky.
gasperoni said:
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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I am on the same boat. Was running LOS 18.1 happily on Oneplus. Then purchased Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro and sh*t started. No official Lineage so started research. Found Arrow to be close. Official and vanilla.
The A11 development was already gone so went with A12 as a future proof option (as I thought). They killed it quick and went 12L. I flashed A12L but after a short while they quit that and went A13. I did not even started to think about swap and they are at A13.1 that I read have bugs.
I wish that development power went in the same direction but no, there are tons of custom ROMs for 'sweet' but I couldn't find stable and polished one. Started to regret that I got a device that is not supported by LOS.
When I got my Note 10 pro last year, I also wanted a device with LineageOS support. But this was the best hardware I could find inexpensively that seemed like it had a lot of development interest, so it's what I went with.
I tried some custom ROMs when I first got it, but was disappointed and went with xiaomi.eu for a long time instead. It's only recently that LineageOS has become available, though it's not official.

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