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Stuck on 4.4

Anyone else still stuck on 4.4?
I have decided not to root my phone or flash any rom that has not been directly issued to my phone by Google. I'm still too happy with my device to mess around with that.
Therefore, I decided to create a thread for the people who are still using 4.4 because they haven't got the update yet. I'm in Malta... Anyone else?
What's better than the mutual anticipation for something new, right?
Sidenote: will the update fix Google Now not working on some devices?
Owner of a Nexus 5
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iwillthinkofsomething said:
Anyone else still stuck on 4.4?
I have decided not to root my phone or flash any rom that has not been directly issued to my phone by Google. I'm still too happy with my device to mess around with that.
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I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.

Why not sideload it?
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ohthesepaws said:
I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.
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dicecuber said:
Why not sideload it?
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My laptop is not available at the moment. I am getting it repaired.
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ohthesepaws said:
I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.
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I am also using 4.4 stock + root. Do u know how to update to 4.4.2?

koolthing said:
I am also using 4.4 stock + root. Do u know how to update to 4.4.2?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557523

iwillthinkofsomething said:
My laptop is not available at the moment. I am getting it repaired.
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Then just wait. Like 2 weeks for Google to roll out the updates. No point in this thread
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I'm still on 4.4 too. I heard you can install it without rooting though.

Badd_blood said:
I'm still on 4.4 too. I heard you can install it without rooting though.
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you need adb. that's all.

I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?

arimus said:
I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?
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Because it hasn't rolled out to everyone yet. Give it time if you don't want to sideload it.

I am on 4.4 and I could have done sideloading, but I don't care much. Been doing enough nightlies with i777 (ATT SGS2) until last month when it died. I like the pure G experience more than I thought (I thought I would go for CM11 immediately after I get N5 then Omni) and I see not much issue with 4.4. I don't use my phone to take a pic much - I have Fuji XE-1 and Canon 5D for that.
I will get it when I get it. Who knows.. Google might have really started nightlies and 4.4.3 is around the corner.
Edit: Well, it looks like they have decided to give it to me just now.

I just got my 4.4.2 ota update yesterday. Chose not to sideload like I did for the 4.4.1 update. My N4 got the ota update on Mon night (it's stock, not rooted). To some degree, it's all just a crap shoot.
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arimus said:
I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?
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There are just different roll-out schedules. Let me put it this way, I was on custom recovery and rooted, and saw I had 4.4.2 update (was on 4.4). So not wanting to mess anything up I went complete stock, though when I rebooted I saw I no longer had it regardless of pressing the update button a million times. So I just ended up side loading it. The reason why it probably was not there, is probably this:
Why is clearing Google Services Framework data is a bad idea?:
There is a myth that has been around for a few years that clearing data in Google Services Framework will get you the OTA faster. Android Engineer Dan Morrill has taken to reddit to explain why NOT to do this and why the method I've described in this thread is the best way to get your update quickly.
Quote:
Doing this changes the primary ID by which Google knows your device. As far as the servers are concerned, the device was basically factory reset. There are many downstream effects of this, but a big one is that this invalidates the tokens used by any app that uses GCM (which is nearly all the Google apps, and a ton of third-party apps.)
How apps react to GCM IDs changing varies by app. With Play Store you have to log out and log back in, I think Gmail usually handles it transparently eventually but won't get new mail notifications for a while, etc. Some apps you may have to clear data on to recover. All apps will simply stop getting GCM push-messages, until they get a new GCM ID; some do this frequently, others rarely, and some apps use the GCM ID as an ID on their own servers (as it is opaque and basically random), so other things besides push messages may not work.
Nothing bursts into flames, but it makes a ton of nuisances on the device, including some that can look pretty mysterious. Your mileage will vary depending on what apps you use.
All of this can be avoided by just doing an 'adb sideload' if you are impatient. -Dan Morrill
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I am assuming it was no longer valid for me because my ID changed when I wiped my phone. So with that being said, your choices are to either wait, or side load.

4.4 as well ..I'll get the update eventually. No rush here.
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From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?

rikudo said:
From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?
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common miss-conception.
sideload is just a different channel to put the damn OTA zip on your phone. there is no higher / lower rate of issues than getting the actual OTA, you will be in the same boat.

Got tired of waiting in Dallas yesterday. I know...patience is a virtue but no a strong point of mine. Wanted to check the camera out so I side loaded both updates early last night.
My N5 has been working like a champ. Camera and speaker are definitely improved!
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rikudo said:
From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?
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There are no problems with sideloading if one hasn't messed with their phone. Issues arise when one tries to sideload the OTA and they have modified files in /system.

I was using 4.4 ( unrooted ) totally original system, and got 4.2.2 update a few hours ago. I'm in Hamilton ON, Canada.

AT&T Lollipop update releaed..

Lucky me, just got my Note 4 yesterday and checked for software updates just now and low and behold I'm receiving Lollipop, its a 1161.38mb download..

you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.

Getting an update on SM-N10A(stock. not rooted) on ATT network. . Its a 1161.38 MB file. Will update on which version does it get updated to shortly.
Update 1: 2.20PM CT: LOL. Installation failed. Try again in 21 hours. Sigh!

SeraldoBabalu said:
you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.
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AT&T started rolling out 5.0.1 this morning to Note 4.

Stupid me
I checked for an update last night and now have to wait 9hrs before being able to check again. Oh well. At work anyways.

sherpa said:
AT&T started rolling out 5.0.1 this morning to Note 4.
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nice. hopefully not much longer for the canadian releases.

SeraldoBabalu said:
nice. hopefully not much longer for the canadian releases.
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Just sent a tweet to Rogers telling them AT&T rolled it out now and asking how long it will take for us to get it. I'm not holding out much hope for a reply.

spexwood said:
Stupid me
I checked for an update last night and now have to wait 9hrs before being able to check again. Oh well. At work anyways.
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You can manually change your date/time to sometime tomorrow and get the update today.

TheIgster said:
Just sent a tweet to Rogers telling them AT&T rolled it out now and asking how long it will take for us to get it. I'm not holding out much hope for a reply.
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They will just point you here.
HTML:
http://communityforums.rogers.com/html/assets/OSUpgrade.html
And tell you it's TBD. My old co-worker who now works at Rogers looked into it and apparently Samsung isn't releasing that information. As he said it's policy it classify devices that don't get support as TBD as to not piss off customers. Aka it's a coin toss if they are going to release it.
AT&T isn't the same as our devices. The closest we can get is T-Mobile. If and when TMO gets the update we won't be far behind. At least we shouldn't.

Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?

TheIgster said:
Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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What are these phone updates of which you speak? Yes, I'm on Verizon.

cyprian64 said:
What are these phone updates of which you speak? Yes, I'm on Verizon.
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lol...yeah, I guess it's not just those of us in Canada. Really missing my Nexus 5 right now with updates right away straight from Google.

TheIgster said:
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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I was referring to the 5.0.1 update. It's very possible they will just lazily skip it and go for 5.1
If thats the case we most likely won't see a LP update this year. Remember Samsung had the oportunity to start LP in June and it has taken them 9 months just to get to this point. Considering no Canadian Carriers have been informed of the update even arriving, meaning they have not tested them and that in turn could create another month or two of testing. It's also been disclosed that Samsung has no plans on working on 5.1 at the moment. Let's assume that they wait to give us 5.1 instead of pushing 5.0.1 out. Since they have not even started 5.1 we can assume they might start in two months (Highly doubt it would be that quick). Then if we take the first time frame we add another 9 months plus the fact they wait a month after they build (check the build logs) we are at a total time frame of 12 months out for a single update. Skipping 5.0.1 would mean a total of 21 months of development time before the first actual LP update.
Of course remember this is all assumptions and theory based on what we have seen so far and I could be totally off. At least I hope I am.

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Of course remember this is all assumptions and theory based on what we have seen so far and I could be totally off. At least I hope I am.
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Sure hope you're wrong. LOL. I would be pretty pissed off if they don't send out a Lollipop update this year.

SeraldoBabalu said:
you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.
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Yep, it sure was
Showing as Android version 5.0.1

TheIgster said:
Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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You'd think that right
How can one of the newest flagships not be on a higher priority?
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Are more bloatwares included in this update?

sherpa said:
You can manually change your date/time to sometime tomorrow and get the update today.
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Oh I know. It's OK though. I was at work with no wifi anyways (and I dont work a desk job either). I have the update downloading now though.

LTE-X said:
Are more bloatwares included in this update?
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Just the usual AT&T crap... Google Service needs to be updated after Lollipop installs, GS took multiple attempts to finally install, otherwise you keep getting a notice that the update is required.. Not sure if was just me but I had to reboot a few times to finally get the Install option to pop up..
So far I'm liking Lollipop, Visually much more appealing..

Captpt said:
Just the usual AT&T crap... Google Service needs to be updated after Lollipop installs, GS took multiple attempts to finally install, otherwise you keep getting a notice that the update is required.. Not sure if was just me but I had to reboot a few times to finally get the Install option to pop up..
So far I'm liking Lollipop, Visually much more appealing..
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Just updated to lollipop and I am experiencing memory leak. I performed a factory reset and is doing much better now.

No July update?

Is there no July update? Thought updates were released on the first monday of the month, but still no update for July
I know tomorrow it is fourth of July and a holiday in the USA but what about today? Everything closed as well?

TMG1961 said:
Is there no July update?
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Maybe there's nothing to update.

NLBeev said:
Maybe there's nothing to update.
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That could also be an option. But none of the supported devices have a July update. So guess that isnt the case.
I think they maybe not working today. Just a few more months and then the monthly wait for a update is over..then no more official updates for the nexus 6

TMG1961 said:
.... Just a few more months and then the monthly wait for a update is over..then no more official updates for the nexus 6
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Yes. the last update will be in October.
Every update I've compared the new system files with the previous version. Only a few files changed.
No updates ..... it's the start of a quiet period.
Time to give a look to a new device. I am keeping an eye on the Plus One 5.

NLBeev said:
Yes. the last update will be in October.
Every update I've compared the new system files with the previous version. Only a few files changed.
No updates ..... it's the start of a quiet period.
Time to give a look to a new device. I am keeping an eye on the Plus One 5.
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I also started to look for a new device, been looking at the LG G6. But got time, my N6 stille works fine.

Most businesses are closed today in the US.

galapagos said:
Most businesses are closed today in the US.
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Are you serious? I doubt most businesses are giving their employees 2 paid days off for Independence Day. Some may be but saying most is quite a stretch.

TMG1961 said:
I also started to look for a new device, been looking at the LG G6. But got time, my N6 stille works fine.
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I sold my Nexus 6 a few days ago. Still a good phone but time has passed it by. Need to move up to a newer, 64 bit device. Waiting to see what my next phone will be. RIP Shamu.

TMG1961 said:
...But got time, my N6 stille works fine.
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Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.

NLBeev said:
Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.
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No any better stereospeakers yet B)
OP5 is sexy but still not worth
The only disadvantage imho is the soon no longer software support, but I don't really know what it really involves as security patches are not quite safer. (critical breaches will always be updated as XP was with wannacry)

NLBeev said:
Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.
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Never had a problem with the round back. Using a case and always lay it on table on its front, since the case is closed no problm with scratches on the screen.
Phone is debloated too. But even without debloating it runs fine and for me fast enough.

Think it is usually about the 5 or 6 th of month released if any.

July update is live now for nexus 6.

Got it! sideloaded ...............okay so far

same bootloader and radio.

just sideloaded the OTA

N6F27H

Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?

H4X0R46 said:
Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?
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Not seeing anything different here.

H4X0R46 said:
Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?
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Not seeing anything different here.
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An update on the new version, my first attempt at flashing N6F27H from the Factory Image (not OTA) ended up with the CPU running at 100% nearly all of the time with no Deep Sleep seen. I just reflashed the Factory Image for N6F27H again and I'll update whether the results are the same or better this time.

AT&T January OTA update

I've side loaded the last 2 monthly updates but want to try and wait for January OTA. Has anyone from AT&T received this months update? Other forum seem to show all other carriers released the update but nothing from AT&T.
Did side loading possibly prevent me from getting ota's?

splink7007 said:
I've side loaded the last 2 monthly updates but want to try and wait for January OTA. Has anyone from AT&T received this months update? Other forum seem to show all other carriers released the update but nothing from AT&T.
Did side loading possibly prevent me from getting ota's?
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Nothing here yet

splink7007 said:
I've side loaded the last 2 monthly updates but want to try and wait for January OTA. Has anyone from AT&T received this months update? Other forum seem to show all other carriers released the update but nothing from AT&T.
Did side loading possibly prevent me from getting ota's?
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AT&T takes about 2 weeks after ota is released!

gfrearick said:
AT&T takes about 2 weeks after ota is released!
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I hate this. I flashed all kinds of everything on my 2xl so it didn't matter but I'm too busy lately with my 4xl and just want to stay current lol. Damn you AT&T!

wgrant said:
I hate this. I flashed all kinds of everything on my 2xl so it didn't matter but I'm too busy lately with my 4xl and just want to stay current lol. Damn you AT&T!
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I caught your lighthearted lol, but AT&T has nothing to do with it. New images are posted like clockwork every month, both OTA and full. If AT&T is messing with your update, how is it that your image is waiting for you every first Monday of the month? If you don't want to wait your turn in the phased roll-out, there are options.

Just received my update... Didnt notice no changes yet. Just security files are updated to Jan 2020

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I caught your lighthearted lol, but AT&T has nothing to do with it. New images are posted like clockwork every month, both OTA and full. If AT&T is messing with your update, how is it that your image is waiting for you every first Monday of the month? If you don't want to wait your turn in the phased roll-out, there are options.
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It was a genuine laugh actually, I chuckled when typing it because of how much has changed in life for me over 2 years. If I had the time to do all of that still I would definitely do it myself but getting an update on day 1 when it's released would be nice, even the first week would be sweet. I waited forever for the November update to hit my phone so it isn't exactly a smooth situation by any means.
You are absolutely correct though, there are other methods available to those that don't want to wait and they aren't difficult to do, especially with all the guides out there to follow.

Gave up waiting myself and sideloaded this month too. Every forum I've gone to it seems Pixels on AT&T, unlocked from Google or from them, seem to be on the waiting list for the update. Hopefully with a "Global" version in January (Japan excluded) the updates from here on out become more routine.

solarus2011 said:
Gave up waiting myself and sideloaded this month too. Every forum I've gone to it seems Pixels on AT&T, unlocked from Google or from them, seem to be on the waiting list for the update. Hopefully with a "Global" version in January (Japan excluded) the updates from here on out become more routine.
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About 45 minutes after I posted my last comment I got the OTA. It's weird that AT&T devices seem to be on the back end of the rollout.

wgrant said:
About 45 minutes after I posted my last comment I got the OTA. It's weird that AT&T devices seem to be on the back end of the rollout.
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Someone has to be last ???

Badger50 said:
Someone has to be last ???
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Sad but true. A wise man once said, if you're not first you're last.

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Sad but true. A wise man once said, if you're not first you're last.
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"Hell....you can even be 50th"
Shake & Bake Mr. Rickie ???

Not Sure!
I got the update within a week or when most community got when i was on sprint, but no luck with Jan update after i moved to at&t.
So i basically side loaded this time, need to see if this repeats with next months update too. But most people having issues with late update on google 4 pixel community have been majority on at&t.
coincidence ? not sure. in kind of same boat though..
Initial device purchased unlocked from the google store.

I got the update this morning, at&t

Google Play System Update issue (U.S. T-Mobile)

So both my sister and I have the same model unlocked Pixel 5 and are using our phones on T-Mobile's network as well.
I've noticed that on my phone I get the Google Play system update (not to be confused with the main phone/security update) whenever I do a manual check for it and a new one's available (Settings, Security, Google Play system update, tap on "Check for update"). But when I do the same thing on her phone, it doesn't update it, even after I restart and ensure that the Google Play Store app is up-to-date as well.
Eventually her phone finally got the December 1 update a couple weeks ago after I tried again, but then now there's a January 1 update and once again mine let me download it right away, but her phone refuses to update that regardless of what I do (main update it does do just fine though).
I'm guessing it will update it soon enough, but why the delay? Can anyone explain why two IDENTICAL phones won't update this at the same time when manually prompted?

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Hey Saturday Night,
Thanks for the link. However, even if it does work for her phone, I still would rather not use it b/c doing so doesn't solve the actual issue of why it's not updating it automatically, or at the very least, when I attempt to update it manually (by doing a recheck).
It seems to update eventually, but I just find it annoying that my phone will do it when I recheck, but not her's. Makes no sense since again we have the same model phone and are on the same carrier.

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Hey Saturday Night,
Thanks for the link. However, even if it does work for her phone, I still would rather not use it b/c doing so doesn't solve the actual issue of why it's not updating it automatically, or at the very least, when I attempt to update it manually (by doing a recheck).
It seems to update eventually, but I just find it annoying that my phone will do it when I recheck, but not her's. Makes no sense since again we have the same model phone and are on the same carrier.
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Same thing happens to me but in reverse. My wife P5 gets it and then about a month later I get it on my P5. I don't really think about it since it really doesn't affect anything. Is there a reason you feel you need it?

bobby janow said:
Same thing happens to me but in reverse. My wife P5 gets it and then about a month later I get it on my P5. I don't really think about it since it really doesn't affect anything. Is there a reason you feel you need it?
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Hey Bobby,
Ok, so it's not JUST me. Good to know. lol
No, not really. As I'd mentioned, it's really not a big deal. I just hope it doesn't indicate that there might be a deeper issue present with her phone. Also, I just hate that I can't explain why it happens at all. lol

RockStar2005 said:
Hey Bobby,
Ok, so it's not JUST me. Good to know. lol
No, not really. As I'd mentioned, it's really not a big deal. I just hope it doesn't indicate that there might be a deeper issue present with her phone. Also, I just hate that I can't explain why it happens at all. lol
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The only thing I can think of is that it's a staged rollout and a random one at that. I update my phone's apps more often than she does so I figured that might be it and then forgot about it. A month later it popped up. I believe the monthlies are way more critical and those come at the same time.

bobby janow said:
The only thing I can think of is that it's a staged rollout and a random one at that.
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You are correct. It's a scattered release.

xunholyx said:
You are correct. It's a scattered release.
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Yes. I agree with you both. This answer seems to make the most sense, and so therefore I'm going to consider this issue resolved.
Thank you all so much for your posts!!

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That's not really an update but more of a place holder. The real update is much larger and can't be installed with an apk. It will change the date to make it look up to date but that's it.