I've tried a USB-C hub with HDMI as well as a screen with a USB-C connector, which both work on my laptop. I don't expect anything to work, but did anyone try the USB-HDMI converters that were reported to work on F1 a while ago?
Having a low-latency video output would be a dream come true.
It dont work, i saw a video review before buying the poco X3 .... only lg, samsung, huawei flagships do that...
Sadly I wanted to mirror Snes and PSone emulators to TV with a USB-C/HDMI output dongle and play with my Dualshock 4.. but not with poco X3
Was wondering if the DisplayLink adapters work: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80746715&postcount=53 - as I know the other cables don't.
The standard is called MHL, and I don't think poco x3 supports it :/
NHL =no
USB c audio adapter /dac =no
YES, video out is possible on the POCOPHONE X3 NFC! )
Since it's my first post, I was prevented from posting outside links. Whenever there was a link, you will now read 'google it'
You read it right, fellers. :angel:
DisplayLink is the name of the magic. Let's break it down:
1. Acquire any of the many DisplayLink enabled dongles or desktop versions. Products at the link:
google it
2. Acquire a USB-A to USB-C OTG adapter like this one:
google it
3. Download and install (no-root required!) the android app "DisplayLink Presenter" in your Poco X3 from:
google it
4. If you've already installed the app and already got your dongle
- plug the adapter's USB-A female end to the dongle's USB_A male.
-plug the cable from your HDMI monitor/TV to the dongle.
-plug the adapter's USB-C end to your X3.
5. Give it a coupla seconds ... Magic! There pops up the same image on both your phone and your TV/monitor! It's a window from the DisplayLink Presenter app. Plug and play, no need to open the app. Close it out, turn your phone sideways and enjoy the picture. Hook up a BT keyboard/mouse and you're good to go.
6. YouTube, Netflix, Vimeo all run with no problem. Games work, apps work, PowerPoint presentations work. Word works. Browsing works.
7. Desktop mode doesn't work. Charging simultaneously doesn't work (with this set up, but there is workaround...). Audio embedded in PP presentation may glitch at times.
That's it, me frends. Enjoy your POCOPHONE X3 NFC mirrored image, with no lag, in the full glory of a large monitor/TV, to the delight of your eyes!
P.S.: And for those interested in going wireless, check this one out:
google Hyper Mirror
Peace.
Just an explanation for you, I've done a truck load of research? on this, while I was deciding what phone to buy.
USB Type C have different types just as USBs do. So USBs went from 1 to 3; USB Type C have both 2 and 3, then thunderbolt, etc.
Essentially, what Xiaomi have done, is use the USB2 internals within the newer Type C connectors. So we get OTG but no video out.
This also means we don't have any more than 480Mbps data transfer speed.
USB3 is 5GB/s, USB3.1 is 10GB/s.
They are actually call them USB2 Type C/USB3 Type C. I honestly don't think a lot of places selling adapters, cables, etc. actually understand what they are selling as they label them all as Type C.
The solution to this, as above, is Displaylink, or equivalent, which I believe are still all Displaylink underneath.
Soooo what you end up with is a nightmare, a lot of people might think it's not worth the headache and carting around everything, especially if you are prone to losing things.
The simplest way to put it is that you need a USB2 Type C OTG cable, which connects from Poco X3 to an adapter (Displaylink/Wavelink/etc.), and a HDMI cable, which connects from the adapter to monitor.
There are other options, depending on how much you want to spend.
The only thing I haven't been able to figure out 100% is whether or not the adaptors can take the lowly USB2 480mbps speed and convert it into 4k. My brain says no way, but due to not finding any people that have used the more expensive adapters, I don't have an actual answer.
If any of this is wrong, let me know, it's only what I've been able to figure out on my own, and funny enough, it's actually more difficult to find than you'd think. Especially when you didn't know what you are starting off from.
Okay so I've found an 'in the meantime' solution that might suit some people. I haven't worked out all the kinks yet, but it does work.
You might have heard of Genymotion, well it's not that. Genymotion who produce Genymotion do a range of applications for android and one of them is called scrcpy.
If you look up 'genymotion scrcpy' the github link should be the first result.
A lot of people seem to dismiss it as not worth even using, I have no idea why, it's very easy to setup and use. It comes up quite often in XDA as well.
You install it on your PC, connect your phone, and then a mirror of your phone comes up on your desktop. It appears to be fully functional, I downloaded a game of the sorts that I play, and it worked despite the rending issues. I've also played some video that I recorded, no issues at all playing that.
I do have some rendering issues but I'm pretty sure that's an individual thing, I use MXLinux, and I know I have a java issue (as in personal setup, not MXLinux), the errors that are displayed in the terminal as it was running all relate to java.
I am still working through all of the possible solutions with the 'video out' converters and adapters, hopefully before too long, I'll be able to actually show you a working example, as I know that there aren't any out there at present, or not that I've seen anyway. And seeing it working is completely different to someone just saying that they have it working in a comment, with no offer of proof that they have.
I use an app called "vysor" on all my android phones. All you need to do is just download the pc app and follow instructions. Basically you just plug your phone to pc like you will transfer data or charge it. And usb debugging must be enabled. When you enable usb debugging and connect your phone to pc, Vysor will install latest android app and that is all. Sounds will come from the phone so i suggest you use a pair of speakers or earphones.
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I use an app called "vysor" on all my android phones. All you need to do is just download the pc app and follow instructions. Basically you just plug your phone to pc like you will transfer data or charge it. And usb debugging must be enabled. When you enable usb debugging and connect your phone to pc, Vysor will install latest android app and that is all. Sounds will come from the phone so i suggest you use a pair of speakers or earphones.
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That's the same as MirrorLink used by cheap anything Java that advertises screen mirroring. Used it on a low end Linux machine via browser, lag and distortion, worse than screencast for me
Edit: the native Linux appimage worked well enough,but is limited to 1 Mbps and the full version is rather pricey 40USD. I'm the end,you still need a machine running, not just a single cable solution. Might be worth it for some, maybe try a month first to see how well it works for you
And vysor does not have input options from the machine to android, (MirrorLink does I think) so you'll need extra BT peripherals for input.
edit2: have to enable USB input emulation in Dev settings for KB/M to work. And a free alternative exists, its called "scrcpy", with identical functionality, no need for App on android. Vysor is just an overpriced GUI for a free app imho, probably targeted at Apple users
What about a USB to VGA cable? Will it work?
Guys, bad news?
This is not yet supported on Poco X3. But there was a problem when I updated the software on this device. My X3 immediately went dark after that, I was quite alarmed because this is my new phone when I won the competition to play stickman fighter with my friends. What should I do now?
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While looking around my phone I came up with a couple of thoughts. First would it be possible to make devices that plugged into the miniusb port on the top of the phone and could it be plug and play? Heck maybe even make the driver if necessary built into flash memory on the new device. It seems like it just takes an kernel update to make something like this possible if it's not already.
The second thing I thought of is if the above isn't possible, why not create an attachable mirror that sits at the right angle to take advantage of the rear camera for video chat. You could project your image onto the mirror and the camera could catch that. The top idea is alot better, the bottom requires alot less knowledge. Either would get us video chat.
Interesting, i like the first idea.
I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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This is the thread you were talking about.
From what I understand about micro usb is that there are five wires/confections. The outside connections are ground and power. The two next to the ground are for data (one + and one -) and the last one next to power is a identification connection. If the wireis connected/has power then its a source device (i.e. computer). If its not, then its a peripheral (portable hard drive, out in our case, our phone). Its been a bit since I read up on that, so it might be vice versa.
Last time I tore the phone apart, I didn't look, but it may be a setting that is hard-wired (literally), or its a switch controlled by software. If it's the latter, then its possible, if its hard wired, then its not.
Adding things to the kernel or loading drivers isn't cut and paste. It takes available source code, which isn't always available, for both the phone and the device you want to use (that works with android), as well as understanding of how to make it work.
That last part I am not well versed on. But we have a couple devs trying to get the vibrant opened up. They are few, and the request list keeps getting larger.
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I was just thinking today that it would be great to have a micro-usb device that could house a camera for video chat... I like your mirror idea...I'm prius owner and that's how the dashboard works. The usb is right there...really I think someone should incorporate a device in a mod of the back cover...i don't know anything about code but I could make the case.
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Devices require a driver of some kind so the controller knows how to talk to device. For example, if I wanted to hook up my DSLR and control it, I would need a driver ported over and then the SDK for the camera would have to be ported over. An OS like Windows 7 has literally thousands of drivers built in and many other devices require you to install a driver. The only time "plug and play" actually works is either with the OS has the driver already installed or if the device is designed around a generic driver.
Incredible idea! I'm going to make the second idea. I have my own twist on the concept but it shouldn't be to difficult.
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I like the first idea but I also had a similar idea and I'd like to see the attached camera come with led's and somehow acct as a flash for both cameras. It could be tiny, if the camera app could be figured out to trigger the flash on all galaxy s models, well at least the vibrant and captivate this could sell.
If a third party app was developed it could be added to any android phone in theory. If that third party app was as good as the galaxy s stock camera app then you'd really be in business.
If I was talking to my brother I'd have tried to convince him to help me develope something. Well I hope one of you talented devs has success with this idea. I'd also like to see success with the guy adding the extra camera internally, I'd be interested in performing the mod if the software end is figured out.
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That is exactly what I was trying to say earlier. You put it in better words. Thanks
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This is the thread you were talking about.
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Ahhah, I couldn't find it to save my life last night lol! Thanks ^_^
Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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Oh, it's host mode built in already. One of the major pluses that I weighed in on when buying the phone.
"Both the S5PC110 (smartphone chipset) and S5PV210 (its netbook alternative) are optimized to ensure long battery life for mobile devices, using a 45-nanometer (nm) Low Power fabrication process and low power architectures. With the 1GHz clock speed and 512KB L2 cache, these processors should also manage to provide performance unknown to the ARM world so far.
The two processors have built-in 3D graphics engine and support 1080p full HD video playback and recording at 30 fps. The final nice features of the new chipset include a wide variety of interfaces and peripherals, including HDMI 1.3and USB 2.0 host interface."
Hate to kinda go off topic with the USB Host mode stuff again, but it seems like since the interface is built into the chip, host mode should be enabled in the kernel.
Yes? No?
Has anyone tried to get an OTG cable in there to see what happens?
Just saying.
I've been curious about this since I saw it done (rather impressively) by sonic7406 (YouTube) on the Nexus One. Since then, I hear it's also been hacked on the Droid. From my research, I'm pretty confident this should be possible with the right drivers installed on the Galaxy S series. I've gathered together an (supposedly) OTG "compatible" cable (the Nokia CA-101 for Nokia 6600 Slide/N900/etc), an extra-beefy powered hub, and female-to-female USB-A adapter. I have yet to dive into the kernel to load any special drivers, try mounting drives, etc. I'm still unsure of the "OTG" cable and may still need to manually ground that fifth pin to kick it off. Though, as far as the cable is concerned, that is the only thing that makes it OTG on one end.
Host Mode Background Info: OTG Wiki
Here's a modoco thread that includes most of the relevant links I've seen.
Ideally, I'd like to find a microUSB to USB-B OTG cable that connects directly from my phone to the powered hub, but I couldn't find any. Let me know if anyone knows where we could find these.
It seems like we could create an entire new category of toys to attach to our devices if the micro USB port could be figured out. To me that's ultra exciting!
Let's go a few steps further, Being able to physically attach a printer or hdmi (Yes, I know about AllShare) to the tv could require a simple adapter that plugs into the micro USB port on the handset. We could also have a nice flash that has brackets that mount to the handset for support to get better pics in low lighting (instead of just saying "oh, I've got night mode", bugger that).
The capability to do this has to be written at the kernel level and then we need hardware manufactures willing to make the products. Therein lies the problem, how do we get that to work?
My neighbor is an electronics engineer and I'm a machinist, my friend is a tool and die maker.
My neighbor has an idea to make a device for surface mount soldering using an inert liquid with a boiling point equal to the soldering temp. This would be a cheap alternative to infrared soldering.
Other than that I might be able to come up with a housing.
I wouldn't want to commit myself untill the software works and we've tested the soldering machine.
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You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
I want to set up my PC as a TV and DVR, what's the best way to do this? I have a cable outlet right beside the PC, I know I could get a TV Tuner card but I know nothing about them at all and there are so many it's confusing. Hauppage(sp?) seems to be the most popular but are they any good? Are there any questions I should be asking myself before I chose? Any help would be much appreciated. Is there a better option altogether? I've searched the internet but it's basically an information overload, no good guides can be found for all the 5 year old junk
tuner you get depends on what software (dvr software) you want to run, what you want to do, and how fast your computer is.
things to know:
some with one tuner and some with 2
some with only OTA and some with QAM (unencrypted cable), some do both
hauppauge has pci/pci-e cards as well as usb
HDhomerun has several models, 2 tuner OTA/QAM, 4* tuner cable card, etc
Ceton has a 4, and a 6?, tuner card
some of these have hardware encoders, some dont (slower computers will need encoding otherwise it will be choppy, audio dropouts)
You should first figure out exactly what type of signal is coming in on that cable. Does your area still have analog cable service (my area does, but I think that's getting more scarce), or is it digital only? Are there any clear-QAM channels (which are usually just the local networks) or is it all encrypted? If it's only digital and encrypted channels that you're interested in, then you need something that can take a CableCARD.
After that, it's all about what software you want to run and how many tuners you require.
You may be better off just using a combo of Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime Instant Video and Bittorrent.
Otherwise you haven't given us any of your specs to be able you help you out. What type of PC do you have? Windows/Linux/Mac... Processor/RAM/HD, also like others have noted are you going for Over the Air signal, analog or Digital Cable, standard def or HD. Are you going to be using a set top box or going for a cable card(very expensive option). Give us as much detail as possible if you want competent answers.
As for using your PC as a TV and PVR, I'd recommend using XBMC to turn it into a Home Theater PC (HTPC). The site, LifeHacker, does an XBMC/HTPC guide every few months. You would still need to buy hardware like a TV tuner but XBMC does a lot on the software end.
Also, if you use XBMC, you can use your Nook Color (assuming you at least have rooted it and have access to the Andoid Market) to control the XBMC software via the XBMC remote app.
Here is a guide that lifehacker did. It's a little old but the basics are still relevant and correct. http*://lifehacker.*com/5536963/the-ultimate-start-to-finish-guide-to-your-xbmc-media-center (remove the asterisks)
What everyone else has said -- need more info on what you have, also what budget, and what cable setup.
I have an HTPC set up but it's for media streaming, not dvr recording.
One forum I found very helpful is the AVS forum (search in google), they have a sub-forum dedicated entirely to HTPCs.
Sorry for the lack on info didn't know that my PC specs mattered all that much. I am running:
Vista Home Premium, 64bit
Intel Core2 Quad CPU (Q9300 @2.5ghz)
4GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce GT240
Appx. 600gb ofhard-drive space plus a 500gb permanent external USB. I can add more HD space if it becomes a problem.
Not sure if there is any other system info you guys need.
As for my cable I dunno for sure what signal I have, I have COMCAST if that helps anyone. Mainly I want this for recording sports. I can't always watch them live and it'd be nice to DVR them for later. I'd also use it for shows, but those I can always watch online later. Can't really watch sports later though. And I'd also like to be able to just normally watch TV on my computer. I'd like to be able to do something on monitor one while the other plays live TV. Sports or whatever.
Also, to this:
Are you going to be using a set top box or going for a cable card(very expensive option).
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I am not sure what you mean. I was thinking you get the TV Tuner, install it in your PCIE slot, and watch TV on the PC. Do you need another device?
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I am not sure what you mean. I was thinking you get the TV Tuner, install it in your PCIE slot, and watch TV on the PC. Do you need another device?
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A basic TV tuner will only be able to pick up Over The Air signals and basic cable(very limited channel selection). If you want to be able to watch digital cable you'll need either a set top box or a cable card and cable card reader(like this one).
some nice basic tv tuners
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116028
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116015
I believe you have Windows Media Center included with your Windows version, it's probably going to be your best option for software.
I came up with a simple solution for turning your HTC One into a semi-desktop environment. My goal was to create a connection path to a PC monitor, keyboard and mouse with a simple docking solution, a dock-and-go approach. Here is what I came up with and it works great:
1. HTC One (Sprint Red version, JB 4.1.2) w/ NFC Task Launcher
2. RoHS Dock (Model: I4SC-HTON) with micro-USB
3. Samsung TecTile
4. MenoTek MHL to HDMI Adapter with RCP
5. HDMI Cable
6. StarTech HDMI to DisplayPort converter
7. Lenovo ThinkVision PC Monitor
8. IOGEAR Multi-Link Bluetooth Keyboard with Touchpad GKM611B
The end result is that I come to work, dock my HTC One (NFC enabled) with the TecTile attached to the Dock to enable and search for my bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Once the peripherals are synched I toggle my monitor to the DisplayPort digital input and my Android desktop is ready to go. The entire process takes less than 1 minute. It allows me to operate independently from my business LAN using wifi or 4G, and from the comfort of my desk. The output is currently limited to 720p resolution, which I believe to be the MHL adapter, but I'm working on that. The above varies slightly with your specific hardware but the concept remains the same.
I've very happy with this solution and I wanted to share it with everyone here. :victory:
dhalmo said:
I came up with a simple solution for turning your HTC One into a semi-desktop environment. My goal was to create a connection path to a PC monitor, keyboard and mouse with a simple docking solution, a dock-and-go approach. Here is what I came up with and it works great:
1. HTC One (Sprint Red version, JB 4.1.2) w/ NFC Task Launcher
2. RoHS Dock (Model: I4SC-HTON) with micro-USB
3. Samsung TecTile
4. MenoTek MHL to HDMI Adapter with RCP
5. HDMI Cable
6. StarTech HDMI to DisplayPort converter
7. Lenovo ThinkVision PC Monitor
8. Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 with Built-In Multi-Touch Touchpad
The end result is that I come to work, dock my HTC One (NFC enabled) with the TecTile attached to the Dock to enable and search for my bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Once the peripherals are synched I toggle my monitor to the DisplayPort digital input and my Android desktop is ready to go. The entire process takes less than 1 minute. It allows me to operate independently from my business LAN using wifi or 4G, and from the comfort of my desk. The output is currently limited to 720p resolution, which I believe to be the MHL adapter, but I'm working on that. The above varies slightly with your specific hardware but the concept remains the same.
I've very happy with this solution and I wanted to share it with everyone here. :victory:
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Sounds like a bit much. Depending on what you're needing it for, I guess some people could benefit. I just use AirDroid. As soon as I get to work I'm already connected to the office WiFi. Just go in and log in and I'm good to go. Can answer text messages, listen to music on my phone, view pictures, etc. Not a full experience, but it's enough for me.
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Sounds like a bit much. Depending on what you're needing it for, I guess some people could benefit. I just use AirDroid. As soon as I get to work I'm already connected to the office WiFi. Just go in and log in and I'm good to go. Can answer text messages, listen to music on my phone, view pictures, etc. Not a full experience, but it's enough for me.
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I used to use AirDroid too, but I found that I didn't like my texts and emails going through my office LAN and business PC. I prefered having an parallel computing environment independent of the office, but one that transitions seamlessly. I have to agree, overkill, but fun! Go with what works for you!!!:good:
dhalmo said:
I used to use AirDroid too, but I found that I didn't like my texts and emails going through my office LAN and business PC. I prefered having an parallel computing environment independent of the office, but one that transitions seamlessly. I have to agree, overkill, but fun! Go with what works for you!!!:good:
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It's a great write-up, without a doubt. I may even try it myself just because I like doing stuff like that.
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
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Have you thought about using a rock 64 single board computer like a Raspberry Pi that Android is really supported something like that could work really well as it has gpio outputs for various functions USB inputs for audio dacs and DAB radio and can work with touch screens or even projectors for heads up.
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
So, quickly searched on google about raspberry pi and banana pi possibilities, there are some power supplies for in car use, basically they simulate a shut down from the button with a delay. That looks very good, very easy to do and also very cheap. But, how fast can boot a raspberry or banana pi running Remix OS? Does anyone know?
yoiedi said:
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
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To make it turn off and on with the ignition, just plug it into a 12v line that is powered when ignition is on. Generally the 12v line to your head unit fits that criteria. If you want constant power to keep the device in standby mode, you can connect a relay to an a wire that is powered when the car is powered, then use the relay to short the pins of the standby button.
For boot time, you can achieve quite a bit of improvement by getting the fastest sdcard you can buy.
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Check these out http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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I think you didn't read, I couldn't find any that works with an external sound card(DAC). My audio system is quite expensive, made for sound quality, and of course I want the head unit to be as good as possible. An external sound card with optical output I think is the best you can get.
Google search "raspberry pi alternative" theres lots of these little gadgets now adays, raspberry pi 3B is one of the most popular ( and cheapest) but there are more out there that are more powerful & better hardware.. The ASUS Tinkerboard is becoming popular as well I think I may be getting one for a streaming machine.
I've already purchased the PC and ordered the PSU. The price for all those components(+ a 30gb ssd) was under 100£ so not very expensive. Why I went for a pc instead of a single board pc? I don't know, maybe because I have no previous experience with them. Yes is true that is way much bigger than a raspberry alternative and the power consumption as well but I don't mind, maybe in the future when I'll get bored again I will try one of those pc's.
So, I've tried to install the Android X86 64bit (there is one version on internet with a patch that removes the confirmation message when you want to shut it down) on this pc with no success, all I've got was a black screen or a continuous reboot. Found out that Android X86 64bit is not so friendly with AMD cpu's. Should've search for that before buying it. Anyway, tried the 32bit version so that one works very well but I didn't find any with that patch installed. How can I remove that confirmation message when the power button is pressed?
Thanks.
first tests, quite happy with it, still lot of work to do.
https://youtu.be/lNJmRjXG81A
Odroid C2 with android + kodi