This Is What The Next Fold Should Be! - Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 Guides, News, & Discussion

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Battery: 7200mAh dual.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
Meet the Galaxy Z Fold Macro Deluxe (or Fold3, whatever):
Battery: 7200mAh dual.
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3.5mm won't come back - forget about it.
Fingerprint scanner on back was the one of worst "inventions". Glad it start to disappear from new models.

sorg said:
3.5mm won't come back - forget about it.
Fingerprint scanner on back was the one of worst "inventions". Glad it start to disappear from new models.
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Have you actually used a rear fingerprint scanner? (Like I have for 7 years [V10 & V20]}
Have you actually even held a Fold2 or tried its fingerprint scanner?
The FP scanner on the Fold2 SUCKS in comparison to my V20's. Anyone with experience would agree.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
Have you actually used a rear fingerprint scanner? (Like I have for 7 years [V10 & V20]}
Have you actually even held a Fold2 or tried its fingerprint scanner?
The FP scanner on the Fold2 SUCKS in comparison to my V20's. Anyone with experience would agree.
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Respectfully I disagree. The side/power button based fingerprints scanner on ZFlip, Fold1 and Fold2 (also similar used on Realme X3 Superzoom) are all perfectly good and recognise my finger 1st time in 9 times out of 10 unlock attempts
What was really shockingly bad was the Ultrasonic under screen fingerprint sensors samsung used on the S10 and S20 range. They were slow, unreliable and didn't work at all with a tempered glass screen protector installed - i hope Samsung never ever uses ultrasonic again

sorg said:
3.5mm won't come back - forget about it.
Fingerprint scanner on back was the one of worst "inventions". Glad it start to disappear from new models.
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dezborders said:
Respectfully I disagree. The side/power button based fingerprints scanner on ZFlip, Fold1 and Fold2 (also similar used on Realme X3 Superzoom) are all perfectly good and recognise my finger 1st time in 9 times out of 10 unlock attempts
What was really shockingly bad was the Ultrasonic under screen fingerprint sensors samsung used on the S10 and S20 range. They were slow, unreliable and didn't work at all with a tempered glass screen protector installed - i hope Samsung never ever uses ultrasonic again
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The FP scanner on the Fold2 is highly inaccurate and placed where it always gets touched. Every time I pick up the phone it says "Fingerprint failed 5 times, swipe to unlock."
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
Have you actually used a rear fingerprint scanner? (Like I have for 7 years [V10 & V20]}
Have you actually even held a Fold2 or tried its fingerprint scanner?
The FP scanner on the Fold2 SUCKS in comparison to my V20's. Anyone with experience would agree.
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May be you actually read my signature? You should see there both Fold 2 and SGS8.
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HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
The FP scanner on the Fold2 is highly inaccurate and placed where it always gets touched. Every time I pick up the phone it says "Fingerprint failed 5 times, swipe to unlock."
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Go to options and set "Scan FP only when button pressed."
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About "30% wider" - you didn't get the original idea. Current width in folded mode is much more convenient to call. Outer screen is not intended to be a main screen, that's why it's not as wide as S20. Making phone wide as normal one will render phone even more bulky. It's already bulky to extreme comparing to modern phones going toward the slim and lite form factor. So at least it's narrow when folded now.
IR blaster - lol.
By combining all your wishes the phone should be released in ~2010. None of you wishes are in trend today and won't happen.
Ok, a little widening may happen if they will manage to make it thinner (by switching flexible screen to outside like on Mate X).

sorg said:
May be you actually read my signature? You should see there both Fold 2 and SGS8.
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Go to options and set "Scan FP only when button pressed."
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About "30% wider" - you didn't get the original idea. Current width in folded mode is much more convenient to call. Outer screen is not intended to be a main screen, that's why it's not as wide as S20. Making phone wide as normal one will render phone even more bulky. It's already bulky to extreme comparing to modern phones going toward the slim and lite form factor. So at least it's narrow when folded now.
IR blaster - lol.
By combining all your wishes the phone should be released in ~2010. None of you wishes are in trend today and won't happen.
Ok, a little widening may happen if they will manage to make it thinner (by switching flexible screen to outside like on Mate X).
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IR Blaster is a great feature on my LG V20! I use Quick Remote often on trips to get into hidden menus on hotel TV's and lots more!
I can live w/out 3.5mm out, but it's nice to have, especially on the LG with its Quad DAC.
I don't see an LG phone in your sig. You want one? I have (4) V20s and (2) V10s. You should use a V20 for a while so you see what I'm missing.
If I could run SAAX and Gravity box on the Fold2, I'd be a little less upset with missing the physical features.
I will try the "only when button pressed" setting.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
IR Blaster is a great feature on my LG V20! I use Quick Remote often on trips to get into hidden menus on hotel TV's and lots more!
I can live w/out 3.5mm out, but it's nice to have, especially on the LG with its Quad DAC.
I don't see an LG phone in your sig. You want one? I have (4) V20s and (2) V10s. You should use a V20 for a while so you see what I'm missing.
If I could run SAAX and Gravity box on the Fold2, I'd be a little less upset with missing the physical features.
I will try the "only when button pressed" setting.
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what i miss long time is removable battery. I really miss the time when i could bring a spare battery and get double working time. Now you need to bring a heavy power bank which just equals to a tiny spare battery. But regardless that i want it, it won't appear in future devices. New features may appear but not past ones. That's why neither 3.5mm nor IR blaster will appear again.
A positive thing to move away from 3.5mm is that Type-C phone plugs have to have an integrated DAC. So buying a Type-C earphone you are buying a whole set of DAC+earphones. High quality earphones may include high quality DAC and not depend on phone audio output quality anymore. Integrated DAC in earphone may get advantage of fine-tuned parameters between each other. Or you can buy Type-C -> 3.5mm high quality converter for existing 3.5mm earphones.

Interesting ideas to say the least.
I haven't used an LG phone in a while (for extremely good reasons based on personal experience) but the FP scanner in the Z Fold 2 is absolutely amazing. As mentioned above, just set the scanner to only be active when you press the power button and you should be fine.
But IR blaster + that fingerprint scanner location makes absolutely no sense. IR blasters are a niche requirement for few, and the scanner doesn't fall on a place that anyone's fingers naturally fall on. Besides that, a scanner there would look terrible.
7200 mAh sure sounds nice, but would add significant heft to an already heavy phone and make it significantly thicker. I'm all for thicker phones that are a tad bit heavier, but not on the Z Fold 2. On the Note series or S series of phones, I'll always take that trade, but on the Z Fold 2 - nah.
MicroSD sounds nice, and a slightly wider cover display would also be appreciated with 90hz or 120hz. I'd be sold on a Z Fold 3 with a slightly wider cover display + higher refresh rate cover display.

If you are having issues with your finger print scanner on the fold 2 , a neat trick would be to register it twice.

Comparing this to an LG phone, V20 at that....ROFL. SD card option should be included for sure.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
The FP scanner on the Fold2 is highly inaccurate and placed where it always gets touched. Every time I pick up the phone it says "Fingerprint failed 5 times, swipe to unlock."
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Yes we will have to agree to disagree as my experience is completely different to yours

I always disliked bottom scanners because you have to pick the phone up and I often use mine on the desk. I had problems with this scanner at first but then I realized I was using just the side of both my thumb and index to unlock. Redid the the prints concentrating on the side and it works with the same reliability as a back or front scanner in my use. I loved the IR scanners on the phone, was more bummed to see them go than the audio jack. I travel a lot so it was nice to be able to use it with TVs in motels, turn the game on in a bar, etc.
My wishlist would include moving the selfie camera over to the side, it's ridiculous that you either have it intrude into the picture or needlessly reduce the picture size to leave it out. Yeah, I read their reasoning and disagree.

Gotta say, I do love this in the car!

Christopher Cross "sailing"....baller

shollywood said:
Christopher Cross "sailing"....baller
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I knew someone would make a wise-ass comment about that!
FYI: That's FAR from my taste in music. I was on a Spotify Station, NOT my library, which doesn't contain crap like that!

LOVE IT!!!

shollywood said:
LOVE IT!!!
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You do? Well, to each... I guess. I kinda liked it 31 years ago.

HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
You do? Well, to each... I guess. I kinda liked it 31 years ago.
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Kinda my point

The side FS works very well for me. But using it to swipe down notifications, it's too damn sensitive. I had to disable that feature.

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One Big Disappointment

Got my HTC One a few hours ago after waiting with baited breath for the past week or so. Sadly, I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Build quality: subpar
sharp edges exposed where the aluminum doesn't mate perfectly with the sides. (Although my phone is not nearly as bad as the One seen in this thread)​
Button layout: abysmal
no menu button, non standard home location.. this bothers me much more than I thought it would and is really a dealbreaker for me with this phone. Also I find the physical buttons difficult to use, but this could be slightly due to the build quality issue since there the aluminum isn't fitting perfectly flush in front of the power button.​
HTC Sense 5: Horrible
News feed filling the entire home screen, ugly fonts.. just generally worse than standard android in every way. WTF were they thinking? Fortunately this is easily rectified​
Aesthetics: meh.
I thought it looked really impressive online, in person I'm not that keen on the silver version. The black version would probably look cool though.​
Everything else about the phone is great, screen, camera, processor, etc.. but the overall experience has been very poor, especially in light of all the hype surrounding this phone.
I've used HTC devices exclusively since 2005: Apache, Titan, Raphael, Supersonic.. Looks like Galaxy S4 will be my first Samsung phone.
Nice try, Samsung. I'm on to you.
You trolls need to stay out of our forums. Keep the BS on the S4 forums.
I have no idea how you can call the build quality subpar. You obviously aren't even trying to be objective.
Button layout is more preference. I actually like it, so calling it abysmal is a little overboard. Its like saying ergonomic keyboards are abysmal because they "feel" weird to you.
HTC Sense 5 is beautiful. Again, no idea why you aren't even trying to be objective. They are using the new font standard for Android, which I like. Having my news feeds at my finger tip, along with video and pictures is perfect for me. The new apps drawer has been very well redesigned and grouping icons is a great addition. Plus, you can always swype blinkfeed to the side and use the standard layout at anytime.
Aesthetics meh? Really? Even reviewers who don't like HTC admit its one of the best looking devices ever built. Come on, atleast give an accurate account of the device if you are going to post about it. Out of curiosity, what do you consider an aesthetically pleasing device?
Felnarion said:
Nice try, Samsung. I'm on to you.
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phat78boy said:
Out of curiosity, what do you consider an aesthetically pleasing device?
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sefstrat said:
Got my HTC One a few hours ago after waiting with baited breath for the past week or so. Sadly, I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Build quality: subpar
sharp edges exposed where the aluminum doesn't mate perfectly with the sides. (Although my phone is not nearly as bad as the One seen in this thread)​
Button layout: abysmal
no menu button, non standard home location.. this bothers me much more than I thought it would and is really a dealbreaker for me with this phone. Also I find the physical buttons difficult to use, but this could be slightly due to the build quality issue since there the aluminum isn't fitting perfectly flush in front of the power button.​
HTC Sense 5: Horrible
News feed filling the entire home screen, ugly fonts.. just generally worse than standard android in every way. WTF were they thinking? Fortunately this is easily rectified​
Aesthetics: meh.
I thought it looked really impressive online, in person I'm not that keen on the silver version. The black version would probably look cool though.​
Everything else about the phone is great, screen, camera, processor, etc.. but the overall experience has been very poor, especially in light of all the hype surrounding this phone.
I've used HTC devices exclusively since 2005: Apache, Titan, Raphael, Supersonic.. Looks like Galaxy S4 will be my first Samsung phone.
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Ok heres some advice for you.Take it back and go preorder the plastic gs4. You will really like that build quality.
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Ahhahaha that picture!
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I hate HTC sense. But this sense 5 just seems so much better. Everything looks so much better compared to aosp
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sefstrat said:
Got my HTC One a few hours ago after waiting with baited breath for the past week or so. Sadly, I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Build quality: subpar
sharp edges exposed where the aluminum doesn't mate perfectly with the sides. (Although my phone is not nearly as bad as the One seen in this thread)​
Button layout: abysmal
no menu button, non standard home location.. this bothers me much more than I thought it would and is really a dealbreaker for me with this phone. Also I find the physical buttons difficult to use, but this could be slightly due to the build quality issue since there the aluminum isn't fitting perfectly flush in front of the power button.​
HTC Sense 5: Horrible
News feed filling the entire home screen, ugly fonts.. just generally worse than standard android in every way. WTF were they thinking? Fortunately this is easily rectified​
Aesthetics: meh.
I thought it looked really impressive online, in person I'm not that keen on the silver version. The black version would probably look cool though.​
Everything else about the phone is great, screen, camera, processor, etc.. but the overall experience has been very poor, especially in light of all the hype surrounding this phone.
I've used HTC devices exclusively since 2005: Apache, Titan, Raphael, Supersonic.. Looks like Galaxy S4 will be my first Samsung phone.
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Go return it. If you don't like this build quality nothing will please you
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sefstrat said:
Got my HTC One a few hours ago after waiting with baited breath for the past week or so. Sadly, I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Build quality: subpar
sharp edges exposed where the aluminum doesn't mate perfectly with the sides. (Although my phone is not nearly as bad as the One seen in this thread)​
Button layout: abysmal
no menu button, non standard home location.. this bothers me much more than I thought it would and is really a dealbreaker for me with this phone. Also I find the physical buttons difficult to use, but this could be slightly due to the build quality issue since there the aluminum isn't fitting perfectly flush in front of the power button.​
HTC Sense 5: Horrible
News feed filling the entire home screen, ugly fonts.. just generally worse than standard android in every way. WTF were they thinking? Fortunately this is easily rectified​
Aesthetics: meh.
I thought it looked really impressive online, in person I'm not that keen on the silver version. The black version would probably look cool though.​
Everything else about the phone is great, screen, camera, processor, etc.. but the overall experience has been very poor, especially in light of all the hype surrounding this phone.
I've used HTC devices exclusively since 2005: Apache, Titan, Raphael, Supersonic.. Looks like Galaxy S4 will be my first Samsung phone.
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What's it like being the first ever to come onto the Sprint HTC One forums and S*** Post about a phone that's been out for a few hours? Please don't even go with Samsung. Take back your HTC One and buy something from Sprint's "Basic Phone" lineup. That HTC One deserves a better home.
Looks like we've got an Apple fanboi, everyone.
Htc One is awesome!
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I have a Galaxy Note 2, but also have a Windows Phone 8X. If the One is ANYTHING like the 8X in regards to build quality, no one can say the build is anything less than stellar. If they do then it is simply fanboi bias coming through.
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You could find things to ***** about on any phone. So bring the thing back & get a Samsung. We won't miss you
I purchased the HTC One this morning myself and absolutely love it. Not sure how you came up with the ratings you did, but they're highly, highly opinionated. You've made that clear.
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I laughed pretty good at this. Good one.
BTW the OP is definitely a Samsung Hire. They didn't give that one the memo yet.
phat78boy said:
I have no idea how you can call the build quality subpar. You obviously aren't even trying to be objective.
Button layout is more preference. I actually like it, so calling it abysmal is a little overboard. Its like saying ergonomic keyboards are abysmal because they "feel" weird to you.
HTC Sense 5 is beautiful. Again, no idea why you aren't even trying to be objective. They are using the new font standard for Android, which I like. Having my news feeds at my finger tip, along with video and pictures is perfect for me. The new apps drawer has been very well redesigned and grouping icons is a great addition. Plus, you can always swype blinkfeed to the side and use the standard layout at anytime.
Aesthetics meh? Really? Even reviewers who don't like HTC admit its one of the best looking devices ever built. Come on, atleast give an accurate account of the device if you are going to post about it. Out of curiosity, what do you consider an aesthetically pleasing device?
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I'm calling the build quality subpar because my unit has poor build quality, and because this phone has only been out for a few hours and there are already multiple threads complaining about this issue. The aluminum doesn't fit flush against the plastic sides, leaving a sharp exposed edge and it also causes the phone to make rattling sound when it vibrates.
Like you said the aesthetics thing is subjective.. I just don't like the interplay between the white sides with the aluminum and black plastic that surrounds the screen, makes it look too busy. If the sides were grey or black it would look much better imo. I haven't seen the black version in person but I'm sure it looks very slick.
The lack of a menu button is not really subjective, its clearly less functional than the alternative.. especially in some 3rd party apps which make heavy use of the menu button. This is the real deal breaker for me and why I will be returning this phone as soon as the galaxy S4 comes out, but no I am not an apple or samsung fanboy.. I don't own any devices by either of those brands, except for a samsung dishwasher lol =)
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The lack of a menu button is not really subjective, its clearly less functional than the alternative.. especially in some 3rd party apps which make heavy use of the menu button. This is the real deal breaker for me and why I will be returning this phone as soon as the galaxy S4 comes out, but no I am not an apple or samsung fanboy.. I don't own any devices by either of those brands, except for a samsung dishwasher lol =)
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Hmm.. it's strange how pictures don't show button layouts of phones, eh? I guess "two-button layouts are a deal breaker for me" translates into "I'm going to buy this phone." Interesting.
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sefstrat said:
I don't own any devices by either of those brands, except for a samsung dishwasher lol =)
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okay
sefstrat said:
Got my HTC One a few hours ago after waiting with baited breath for the past week or so. Sadly, I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Build quality: subpar
sharp edges exposed where the aluminum doesn't mate perfectly with the sides. (Although my phone is not nearly as bad as the One seen in this thread)​
Button layout: abysmal
no menu button, non standard home location.. this bothers me much more than I thought it would and is really a dealbreaker for me with this phone. Also I find the physical buttons difficult to use, but this could be slightly due to the build quality issue since there the aluminum isn't fitting perfectly flush in front of the power button.​
HTC Sense 5: Horrible
News feed filling the entire home screen, ugly fonts.. just generally worse than standard android in every way. WTF were they thinking? Fortunately this is easily rectified​
Aesthetics: meh.
I thought it looked really impressive online, in person I'm not that keen on the silver version. The black version would probably look cool though.​
Everything else about the phone is great, screen, camera, processor, etc.. but the overall experience has been very poor, especially in light of all the hype surrounding this phone.
I've used HTC devices exclusively since 2005: Apache, Titan, Raphael, Supersonic.. Looks like Galaxy S4 will be my first Samsung phone.
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sefstrat said:
I'm calling the build quality subpar because my unit has poor build quality, and because this phone has only been out for a few hours and there are already multiple threads complaining about this issue. The aluminum doesn't fit flush against the plastic sides, leaving a sharp exposed edge and it also causes the phone to make rattling sound when it vibrates.
Like you said the aesthetics thing is subjective.. I just don't like the interplay between the white sides with the aluminum and black plastic that surrounds the screen, makes it look too busy. If the sides were grey or black it would look much better imo. I haven't seen the black version in person but I'm sure it looks very slick.
The lack of a menu button is not really subjective, its clearly less functional than the alternative.. especially in some 3rd party apps which make heavy use of the menu button. This is the real deal breaker for me and why I will be returning this phone as soon as the galaxy S4 comes out, but no I am not an apple or samsung fanboy.. I don't own any devices by either of those brands, except for a samsung dishwasher lol =)
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Soyou are saying you didn't know there was not a menu button? Even though EVERY review known to man has mentioned this? Ok...bye bye troll...i mean buddy.

Frustration from Note 3 to 4? Look here

Ok guys, this is all opinionated of course, but I think that a lot of people (including myself) are a bit frustrated with the announcement of the Note 4, mainly for the lack of changes.
I put together a list comparing Note 2 to Note 3, which was a HUGE upgrade, and compared it to Note 3 to 4. As you can see, the two lists are very different when put next to each other:
note 2 vs note 3:
SD800 WAAY Faster than Exynos 1.6ghz
bigger screen
1080p vs 720p, better colors, 40% brighter
completely new features like air command, USB 3, multi vision, air gesture, able to use S-pen with capacitive buttons
from S4: IR blaster, glove mode,
better camera with new features, 4k video, slomo
Design completely new, new back, flatter front, sides that mimic a notebook
32gb storage, more ram, bigger battery,
taller, thinner, lighter; new integrated camera w/flash, cleaner look; speaker on bottom
LTE Advanced, 802.11ac
gorilla glass 3 vs gorilla glass 2
accessories: s-view cover, gear, wireless charging back, wireless s-view
note 4:
SD 805 (super fast gpu (good for 4k, better thermal design = better battery life), 2x memory bandwidth, faster cpu (15%), much better image processor, up to 300mbps let-a)
same size screen
2.5k vs 1080p, adaptive display, possibly super dimming mode (unknown), "basic" mode to get true RGB color accuracy in Note4
16mp cam with ois, 3.7mp ffc with 120 degree wide angle; side-touch “button”
Design similar; new metal sides, no stitching on back, camera is now split from flash module for heart rate sensor, like note 2, curved edged (2.5d) glass like note 2, small cuts in metal frame like iphone's antenna, black phone speaker grill, ffc moved more to corner, larger home button, edge matches color of phone's front & back
new features: 30 minute super charging, s-pen 2x sensitive, MHL3
From S5:Fingerprint reader, heart-rate sensor, ultra power-saving mode, multitasking button replaces menu button
completely new features: UV+SP02 sensors, fast-charging, bring content from one app to another with s-pen, select multiple items with s-pen like a mouse, pop-up screen, split-screen w/multiple apps, use heart rate sensor for selfies
same storage options, same RAM, battery 20 Mah more but 7.5% better; same integrated microsd/microsim module as note3, not in note 2
dimensions: narrower and thinner, but taller and heavier (N3: 5.95" x 3.12" x 0.33” in, 5.93 oz N4: 6.04" x 3.09" x 0.32” in, 6.21 oz)
speaker on back, camera and flash in 2 different components
LTE-A 300 mbps vs 150 on n3, 802.11ac with MIMO, bluetooth 4.1
same gorilla glass 3 as n3, 2.5d curved edge glass from note 2
like note 3, 3 mics, but improved in note 4; can focus on sound coming from one or two directions
accessories gear vr, Swarovski backs, montblanc pens+cases, samsung ruggedized note4 case, gear s, wireless charging back, wireless s-view
design negatives: taller, heavier, speaker on back; REMOVED: USB3, temperature & Humidity sensor
missing features: From S5: waterproof, ISOCELL BSI sensor, super-dimming unknown at this point; no dual-tone flash like iphone, speaker on back like Note2, not 64bit if snapdragon
unknown:super-dimming mode, PWM for screen dimming which was in note2 and 3, if signal is as good as note2 because note3 signal was worse
sensors (from samsung website):
Note 3:
Gesture, Accelerometer, Geo-magnetic, Gyroscope, RGB, Proximity, Barometer, Temperature & Humidity, Hall Sensor
Note 2:
Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity, Gyro, Barometer
Note 4:
Gesture, Accelerometer, Geo-magnetic, Gyroscope, RGB,IR-LED Proximity, Barometer, Hall Sensor, Finger Scanner, UV, Heart Rate Monitoring, SpO2
I think after compiling this list, I've realized I can overlook some minor things like USB3 (even tho it was STUPID FAST!), sensors and a few other details. At the end of the day, I remember why I pick Samsung: Best-in-class screen, which is one of the biggest things about a pone, top-notch hardware, super fast, great (although sometimes useless) features, geek-friendly when it comes to expandability, removable battery/memory, customizable, etc.
That waterproof omission is going to sting tho :crying: Really was looking forward to underwater pics without a "bag", or shower-browsing online!
The lack of USB3, Isocell sensor and speaker moved to the back are all a step back, but with all these other improvements, I'm sure you wouldn't even notice it much.
Your right, the screen is being given no love, and your right, it is super important. This should be the best smartphone screen ever. Paired with the latest processor, and great S pen features, I'm in. I just hope that there is no lag like everyone said about the G3
Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.
Dat Noob said:
Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.
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added to new features portion. Thanks!
My utter frustration is moving the speaker to the back.
No word yet if the sound is better on the N4 then on the N3.
My only complain is move speaker to back.
No waterproof is better if Samsung can't make slim bezel for waterproof phone, see how thick and ugly the bezel in S5.
Thanks Samsung not implement waterproof in Note 4.
I had use few waterproof Sony phone like Z and Z Ultra, waterproof is real gimmick as it won't last long and troublesome on those flip cover on nearly every single port. Please don't add in until you can give slim bezel design on it. Waterproof is real unnecessary.
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My only complain is move speaker to back.
No waterproof is better if Samsung can't make slim bezel for waterproof phone, see how thick and ugly the bezel in S5.
Thanks Samsung not implement waterproof in Note 4.
I had use few waterproof Sony phone like Z and Z Ultra, waterproof is real gimmick as it won't last long and troublesome on those flip cover on nearly every single port. Please don't add in until you can give slim bezel design on it. Waterproof is real unnecessary.
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I also feel waterproofing is a gimmick and while this doesn't reflect every phone. A few people I know who have the Z1/2 and S4 active/S5 have issues with the water proofing whenever water touches their phones from freezing, to switching off, to black screens, to unresponsive buttons.
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Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.
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The note 4 when back to using a usb2.0? What the funk ? I really loved the extra fast charging of the note 3. I'm not sure what the MHL is and how it affects charging speeds but they advertised fast charging on the note 4, so we'll see.
I had Note 2 but bought S4 and then Note 3 came out and its seems no diffrent from S4 cus of the 1080p screen , so i waited for 2K and now Note 4 has it so its a 100% buy from me !
I always found that the N3 screen looked fuzzy I couldn't live with it.
The fact the screen is Qhd is reason enough for me give the N4 a chance.
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I also feel waterproofing is a gimmick and while this doesn't reflect every phone. A few people I know who have the Z1/2 and S4 active/S5 have issues with the water proofing whenever water touches their phones from freezing, to switching off, to black screens, to unresponsive buttons.
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Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.
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The note 4 when back to using a usb2.0? What the funk �� I really loved the extra fast charging of the note 3. I'm not sure what the MHL is and how it affects charging speeds but they advertised fast charging on the note 4, so we'll see.
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The Note 4 will have better chraging capabilities than the Note 3. Look what the seemingly unimportant MHL3 actually adds:
The MHL 3.0 specification capabilities include:
4K (Ultra HD): Support of 4K formats up to 2160p30
Simultaneous high-speed data channel
Improved Remote Control Protocol (RCP) with support for peripherals such as a touch screen, keyboard and mouse
Power charging up to 10W
Backward compatible with MHL 1 and MHL 2
Latest HDCP 2.2 content protection
Enhanced 7.1 surround sound with Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD
Connector agnostic – uses as few as five pins
Support for simultaneous multiple displays
The MHL Experience
Home Theater – 4K Movie-Theater Picture Quality
Watch all of your favorite content in 4K movie-theater picture quality from your smartphone to your TV or home theater system. Stop, rewind, pause and play all of your content using the TV's remote control.
Mobile Games – Zero Lag
Play all your mobile games on a 4K screen with no lag, all while the TV provides power to your smartphone for extended game play.
Office – Work Anytime, Anywhere
Transform your mobile device into a portable computer by connecting it to a keyboard, mouse, monitor (or multiple monitors), and storage device to work anytime, anywhere.
Automotive – Touch Screen to Access Music and Navigation
Interact with the smartphone through your car infotainment touch-screen display or buttons on your steering wheel to make phone calls, play music, navigate with the phone's GPS, and more, all while providing charge to your smartphone.
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Edit: Also, just to add, as far as I know this is a first for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 for example had MHL2.1.
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Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.
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that's too bad...what about taking pics under-water? The Note 4 has that virtual button on it's side for taking pics. If it were waterproof, I doubt the button would work, because it's most likely capacitive. But does the touchscreen work well enough to hit the camera capture button? Or you can probably use the volume button to capture a picture, so would that work? Or does it freeze up completely?
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Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.
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The Note 4 will have better chraging capabilities than the Note 3. Look what the seemingly unimportant MHL3 actually adds:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/20/mhl-3-0/
Edit: Also, just to add, as far as I know this is a first for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 for example had MHL2.1.
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Well 4k support is a big deal now that people are starting to buy 4K TV's to output to and content providors like netflix support streaming 4k (but probably not yet on mobile, that I don't know)
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that's too bad...what about taking pics under-water? The Note 4 has that virtual button on it's side for taking pics. If it were waterproof, I doubt the button would work, because it's most likely capacitive. But does the touchscreen work well enough to hit the camera capture button? Or you can probably use the volume button to capture a picture, so would that work? Or does it freeze up completely?
Well 4k support is a big deal now that people are starting to buy 4K TV's to output to and content providors like netflix support streaming 4k (but probably not yet on mobile, that I don't know)
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Newer Z1, Z2 or Z3 yes for taken under water as got shutter button. Previous model can only via time record.
Also remember due to the S Pen, really hard to do waterproof, if do then it will be troublesome in taken out the S Pen.
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Also remember due to the S Pen, really hard to do waterproof, if do then it will be troublesome in taken out the S Pen.
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Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
Unlike the Galaxy S5, the Note 4 isn’t waterproof – when we asked Samsung’s reps why, they said the Note 4 is for people interested in being productive and creative on the go, while the Galaxy S5 is a more generalist device
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Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-hands-on-519696/
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Knowing that, I'm also disappointed in the note 4's lack of ip67 certification.
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Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-hands-on-519696/
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Same. I could buy their reasoning for the larger bezels on the S5 due to waterproofing, but why would the Note 4 be larger now if it doesn't even include that?
Missing water proof feature too! Maybe there will come some 3rd party cases for N4 that makes it water proof for short times. The difference in S5 is the existence of a cover for the Micro USB port and a little "strip" in the back cover.
Water proof features are what other manufacturers came up with to try to offer something..ANYTHING... to attempt to steal some of Samsung customers because they couldn't do it on the tech side of things. Forget waterproofing, as it a point of sale gimmick which fails because it needs stupid little blanking plugs ETC.
So far the biggest thing I see on the Note4 that might make my life loads easier is the fast charge which is a really handy feature.
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How do you waterproof a phone with an S pen? I can understand the disappointment some feel but it wasn't a feature I was seeking on a Note device.
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Huawei Mate 10 Unboxing the Chinese Version

Fellow members please check out my video it will help answer your questions on if you should buy it and feel free to share it ? link is below:
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Found this image on the hardware zone forums. Interesting to note that Mate 10 display (not bezels) is more wide and shorter than the Mate 9.
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Found this image on the hardware zone forums. Interesting to note that Mate 10 display (not bezels) is more wide and shorter than the Mate 9.
(don't mind the brightness on Mate10 as supposedly the brightness does not hit peak when the "smart" mode for resolution is activated).
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This is quite interesting. I'm wondering if the difference is height is not as great cause it looks like the top of the Mate 10 is not level with the Mate 9. This would make the screen not look as tall. Barring some illusion due to the angle, I'm really happy if the Mate is a really little wider. This makes me more inclined (no pun intended) to by it!
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This one for size comparison
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Hi. If you have a side by side front view that would clear up things about the screen dimension. Thanks!
mscion said:
This is quite interesting. I'm wondering if the difference is height is not as great cause it looks like the top of the Mate 10 is not level with the Mate 9. This would make the screen not look as tall. Barring some illusion due to the angle, I'm really happy if the Mate is a really little wider. This makes me more inclined (no pun intended) to by it!
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Hi. If you have a side by side front view that would clear up things about the screen dimension. Thanks!
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Sorry i don't have more pics,this one my friend send it to me .
I'm waiting for my mate 10 pro to be available on Monday.
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Found this image on the hardware zone forums. Interesting to note that Mate 10 display (not bezels) is more wide and shorter than the Mate 9. View attachment 4321813
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Its not shorter if you consider actual usability of the whole screen. Its bigger in every sense. See the attached screenshots from phonearena phone-size comparison tool.
Although length wise it almost matches with mate 9 screen, mate 10 screen has no on screen buttons, unless you chose to enable them, so from down to bottom it has more screen real estate that you can actually use and enjoy content on it + mate 10 has smaller side bezels than mate 9.
Considering the on screen button non-existence, unless enabled, I would call mate 10 a true 5.9" phone, while mate 9 and all of them other on screen button phones are a bit of cheat if I can say so, because when advertising 5.9", 6.2" or whatever they avoid to explain that its actually less, considering the space on screen buttons take away.
This is also one of the main reasons why I am so hyped about Mate 10/ready to move away from IP7+, because its truly an upgrade screen size wise when coming from 16:9 aspect ratio 5.5" phones like for example OP5 (5.5" with capacitive buttons) and even ip7+ (also 5.5. fully usable screen with 16:9). I definitely do not support that sausage type movement/the new trend of phones with aspect ratio 18:9 and even 18:9.5 in case of iphone x, s8+, note8 - for me those screens are not big, they are simply long and remind me of the memes flying around the web when iphone 5 came out with that longer display (One extra line), therefore I want mate 10 to be a huge success and maybe other producers and even Huawei itself next year will try out and squeeze out even more usable cm2 on a 16:9 aspect ratio screen and phone frame :good:
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Its not shorter if you consider actual usability of the whole screen. Its bigger in every sense. See the attached screenshots from phonearena phone-size comparison tool.
Although length wise it almost matches with mate 9 screen, mate 10 screen has no on screen buttons, unless you chose to enable them, so from down to bottom it has more screen real estate that you can actually use and enjoy content on it + mate 10 has smaller side bezels than mate 9.
Considering the on screen button non-existence, unless enabled, I would call mate 10 a true 5.9" phone, while mate 9 and all of them other on screen button phones are a bit of cheat if I can say so, because when advertising 5.9", 6.2" or whatever they avoid to explain that its actually less, considering the space on screen buttons take away.
This is also one of the main reasons why I am so hyped about Mate 10/ready to move away from IP7+, because its truly an upgrade screen size wise when coming from 16:9 aspect ratio 5.5" phones like for example OP5 (5.5" with capacitive buttons) and even ip7+ (also 5.5. fully usable screen with 16:9). I definitely do not support that sausage type movement/the new trend of phones with aspect ratio 18:9 and even 18:9.5 in case of iphone x, s8+, note8 - for me those screens are not big, they are simply long and remind me of the memes flying around the web when iphone 5 came out with that longer display (One extra line), therefore I want mate 10 to be a huge success and maybe other producers and even Huawei itself next year will try out and squeeze out even more usable cm2 on a 16:9 aspect ratio screen and phone frame :good:
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I don't mean its a negative. After all the Mate 10 is still narrower than the Mate 9. And it has one of slimmest side bezels i have seen. From my hands on usage viewing full screen videos, it won't be wrong to say your eyes almost does not see the side bezels.
Im more curious though in that it seems 16:9 or 18:9 ratio measure is slightly variable in reality and not fixed. I was wondering how it is possible Huawei could in their next generation Mate 11 make the sides more narrower while retaining 16:9 or has Huawei's Mate 10 hit the most extreme in that regard ? But if ratio is slightly variable i guess its possible.
jemeljsh said:
Its not shorter if you consider actual usability of the whole screen. Its bigger in every sense. See the attached screenshots from phonearena phone-size comparison tool.
Although length wise it almost matches with mate 9 screen, mate 10 screen has no on screen buttons, unless you chose to enable them, so from down to bottom it has more screen real estate that you can actually use and enjoy content on it + mate 10 has smaller side bezels than mate 9.
Considering the on screen button non-existence unless chosen I would call mate 10 a true 5.9" phone, while mate 9 and all of them other on screen button phones are a bit of cheat if I can say so, because when advertising 5.9" or whatever " it has in diagnol they avoid the fact that its actually less considering the space on screen buttons take away.
This is also one of the main reasons why I am so hyped about Mate 10/ready to move away from IP7+, because its truly an upgrade screen size wise when coming from 16:9 aspect ratio 5.5" phones like for example OP5 (5.5" with capacitive buttons) and even ip7+ (also 5.5. fully usable screen with 16:9). I definitely do not support that sausage type movement with aspect ratio 18:9 and even 18:9.5 in case of iphone x, s8+, note8 - for me those screens are not big, they are simply long , therefore I want mate 10 to be a huge success and maybe other producers and even Huawei itself next year will try out and squeeze out even more usable cm2 on a 16:9 frame/screen. :good:
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Hi. Assuming the pictures are to scale, they are consistent with the Mate 10 screen being slightly wider and slightly shorter. I'm good with this. It is closer to the form factor I want. I think the original Galaxy Note, one of my all time favourite phones, had a 5.3 inch screen but it was nearly as wide as the Huawei Mate 9 because it was 16:10. The first Note Edge (one side edge) was actually wider having 5.6" diagonal and 16:10. If the Note 8 had 16:9 screen, with around 6.3 inch diagonal I definitely would have got that. 18:9 (maybe borderline for me depending on diagonal) and higher ratio is too close to Hershey bar for me.
warea said:
I was wondering how it is possible Huawei could in their next generation Mate 11 make the sides more narrower while retaining 16:9 or has Huawei's Mate 10 hit the most extreme in that regard ? But if ratio is slightly variable i guess its possible.
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I believe this is the most extreme you can get. The fingerprint reader/home button is as small as it can possibly be to be comfortable hitting it + on top you have to leave space for camera, led notification, etc. Hats off to Huawei for keeping the 16:9 aspect ratio going and making top and bottom so small on a 16:9 screen with no on screen buttons in perfect symmetry.
Ok. I ordered mine! Mocha Brown, 6GB/128GB. C636...
The screens are IDENTICAL in size. I upped the brightness and contrast just to amplify the bezels and screen. Mate 9 and 10.
warea said:
Found this image on the hardware zone forums. Interesting to note that Mate 10 display (not bezels) is more wide and shorter than the Mate 9.
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Nope. He is tilting the left phone up slightly which creates the illusion of a longer screen. See my photo above. They are the same size.
tboy2000 said:
The screens are IDENTICAL in size. I upped the brightness and contrast just to amplify the bezels and screen. Mate 9 and 10.
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Yup! You're right! Should I cancel my order....
mscion said:
Yup! You're right! Should I cancel my order....
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Nooooo. It's a great phone. Perfect in my opinion.
mscion said:
Yup! You're right! Should I cancel my order....
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If you have a Mate 9 you will love the Mate 10. A lot faster than the M9 or the SD 835. Screen not on par with Sammy but no screen burn- in 2 months down the road. Speakers louder and clearer on the M10. Off-screen navigation button is ingenious.
@ramheer do you know if the rebranded phones from Wonda will get OTA?
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gm007 said:
Sorry i don't have more pics,this one my friend send it to me .
I'm waiting for my mate 10 pro to be available on Monday.
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Where are you buying the pro from?
Cccmachins said:
If you have a Mate 9 you will love the Mate 10. A lot faster than the M9 or the SD 835. Screen not on par with Sammy but no screen burn- in 2 months down the road. Speakers louder and clearer on the M10. Off-screen navigation button is ingenious.
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You're not kidding. I moaned at first about that button but it's amazing. So fast to unlock and navigation via it is so easy. Pissed the pro I'm buying doesn't have it now. Once you get used to navigation via that button nothing else will do
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@ramheer do you know if the rebranded phones from Wonda will get OTA?
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Of course it will get ota
lawtq said:
Where are you buying the pro from?
You're not kidding. I moaned at first about that button but it's amazing. So fast to unlock and navigation via it is so easy. Pissed the pro I'm buying doesn't have it now. Once you get used to navigation via that button nothing else will do
Of course it will get ota
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The phone will be available in Lebanon on Monday.
gm007 said:
The phone will be available in Lebanon on Monday.
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Thank you. Link to online store?
lawtq said:
Thank you. Link to online store?
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We don't have online store here,we only have one dealer that distribut the phones to phones shops and we get it from them

Note 10 Display (Remain on Note 9?)

By now I'm sure most of us have seen that idiotic hole that Samsung are using on the next S phone. It seems highly likely that the next Note device will also have this stupid hole in the display. So I'm wondering how many of us Note 9 users here will remain on this Note 9 because of the hole or as they call it, "Inifinity-O" or "O-I can't believe they're doing this stupid thing™" Are you getting the next Note with a hole in the display or staying on the Note 9?
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I wish they would have been strong enough to ignore calls from idiots who thought the top bezels on Samsung's flagships were too thick. The S9/9+ and Note 9 have shown everyone how classy and refined bezels can appear, with some room to shrink a bit further. You need SOME top bezel to house various sensors. You don't need a bottom bezel. Maybe my OCD is just too strong to ignore that stupid hole in the display but it's that hole that's going to keep me away from the next Note device. I doubt they'll introduce any other features that will break my mind and make me want to upgrade and be great enough to make me ignore that hole.
I'm buying the 512GB Exynos Note 9 as soon as I can. That will hold me over for at least through the fall of 2020. I just hope by next year Samsung will gives us that under-display sensor tech so we can just have an unobstructed display. Nothing cutting into the screen but a clear surface. Like it should be.
Just that won't dissuade me from getting a new Note if decide to change current one.
Why don't you wait and see what they do instead of speculating.
Yep, very hard to say what's next for the Note... Hopefully it will have a drone setting
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Why don't you wait and see what they do instead of speculating.
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Nothing wrong with speculating on what smartphone makers may do. It's an innocuous activity. But I do think Samsung are gonna go full steam with this Infinity-O display so it's a bit difficult for me to see why the next Note won't be sporting it.
Well it sure ain't a glory hole lol.
I would have have preferred none to be honest. Failing that something small like the Huawei Pro X small notch would have been acceptable.
You still haven't got a note 9,?
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Limeybastard said:
Well it sure ain't a glory hole lol.
I would have have preferred none to be honest. Failing that something small like the Huawei Pro X small notch would have been acceptable.
You still haven't got a note 9,?
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They should just put a screen on the back of the Note 10 for selfies. I'll be okay with that. And still let us utilize the Spen back there too.
I don't even remember the last time I took a selfie, lol. I remember when the world thought it was weird to put a camera on a cellphone.
Jammol said:
They should just put a screen on the back of the Note 10 for selfies. I'll be okay with that. And still let us utilize the Spen back there too.
I don't even remember the last time I took a selfie, lol. I remember when the world thought it was weird to put a camera on a cellphone.
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I stopped taking selfies when I turned obeast, circa S7 edge .
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I usually don't put too much thought into renders/speculation/etc..... but,as the OP states,it hurts nothing & is a much more enjoyable read vs the battery life threads/repeat questions on topics/threads that have been covered ad nauseam.
Soooo..................... here's my 2¢ (yes,overvalued,most def,LOL):
Yes,the Note 10 will likely have one or two things that are new/different,likely an in-display FPR & the usual upticks in processor/cameras.
Is that enough to "upgrade" from the Note 9?
For myself,not even close.
While the Note series has been one of my favorite models in smartphones,I think the form factor has been in decline since the Note 5 was introduced.
Yes,for the most part,the internals are better than ever & the overall performance as well.
The display ratio,removable battery,usable (necessary) bezels for navigation/sensors & just handling the phone in general,are more sensible on the Note 4.
The changes away from this design were just for change sake,labeled as "new & improved" & it's been in a downward spiral since.
What would make sense to me?
A Note 10 Active:
Ditch the ridiculous glass-sandwich design,I hope Apple does,so that the Android mfgs follow suit.....................
The Active design makes sense.....for people on the go who are multi-tasking & use the S-Pen extensively,they're more prone to dropping their phone.
Why not ruggedize it & if one chooses,they can go sans case w/o much worry.
OK,that was slightly OT,so here's wish list item #2,closer to the topic,but,just as unlikely:
Pop-up Cameras
I had both the Oppo Find X & Vivo NEX for a brief period of time:
Yes,both have the presumed greater potential for hardware failure,but,one I think is worth risking vs the notch/hole-punch iterative design.
The mechanical failure,I'm guessing,is a far less likely scenario vs someone dropping their phone & breaking something else (the display comes to mind,LOL).
The pop-up mechanism was nice,especially on the Find X,for two reasons (outside of the obvious all-display form-factor):
1) The cameras,front & back,are stowed until ready for use,protecting the lenses from everyday wear & tear.
2) The privacy bonus:
If by chance you have a wayward app on your phone that has an unnecessary camera permission,this will be made apparent when the camera module pops-up for seemingly no reason.
I'm not the paranoid type,but,the added benefit of the cameras being tucked away for that very reason is kinda cool to have.
On this same line of thinking,I wouldn't mind a slider design,it gets rid of the notchole.
The former isn't happening (Note 4 retro design) & if I had to bet,neither are the pop-up or slider designs.
Yes,most likely,you'll have the option to "hide" the notchole via blackout,but,that just reduces the whole point of going "faux-full display".......
The bezels/sensors on the Note 9 are sensible & we're still left with a more than ample display,the camera-in-display destroys that.
Throwing this ridiculous iteration into the mix until the sensors are truly hidden is an entirely unnecessary step.
If Samsung wants to keep up appearances with improvements from the previous year/model,throw in true front-firing speakers (top&bottom) & continue improvements on both cameras,something everyone would appreciate. ( & for good measure,dare to be different w/a FLAT DISPLAY.)
The notchole will be on the Note 10,it's an easy pass.
If you're on a Note older than the Note 8,then I could see jumping on the Note 10.
Otherwise,grab a Note 9 (in any RAM/ROM configuration) & sit out Notcholegate until the design process evolves to a sensible form factor.
I might start saving for this rumored S10-X badboy!
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I might start saving for this rumored S10-X badboy!
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I would bet $$$ that this variant of the S10,if it ever sees the light of day,will not be available until a good while after launch.
If it's not even mentioned next month,I'd guess the uber-specs will end up on the Note 10 instead.
@KOLIOSIS put it nicely. Sitting this next iteration out if the display is intruded upon. Which is another bit of Samsung irony because they spent a lot of time poking fun at Apple with those battery ads showing iPhone users camped out near power outlets at the airport whilst a Samsung user simply swapped out his battery on his phone and continued on smartly. A great way to show the practical features of a phone, which traditionally Samsung's ad folks have been great at.
https://youtu.be/0hIoyb9L5g0
But then the S6 and Note 5 arrived and those battery ads quickly became moot. Then they started mocking Apple's notch.
And now they've come up with something that's arguably worse than the notch. Just my two cents on it, which are valued much less than @KOLIOSIS
I hope that this fad of having an hole in the display for the front facing camera would be gone when I decide to upgrade from my Note 8. As I hate the idea of having a hole in the display of my device for the front facing camera.
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I hope that this fad of having an hole in the display for the front facing camera would be gone when I decide to upgrade from my Note 8. As I hate the idea of having a hole in the display of my device for the front facing camera.
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Little doubt that this hole will not be on the next Note phone.
Source: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-new-ultra-slim-20mp-isocell-image-sensor-for-full-screen-display-smartphones
I rather the Note 10 (or whatever they call it) to have a teardrop notch like on their Galaxy M phones than a hole in the display.
roaduardo said:
Little doubt that this hole will not be on the next Note phone.
Source: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-new-ultra-slim-20mp-isocell-image-sensor-for-full-screen-display-smartphones
I rather the Note 10 (or whatever they call it) to have a teardrop notch like on their Galaxy M phones than a hole in the display.
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I was hoping that Samsung would keep the current Infinity Display design on the Note series of devices. As I prefer that to having a notch or a hole in the display...
This makes me wonder about something: the notification light. Is this Infinity-O display going to kill it? Are the next 10 models going to retain the notification light?
iceepyon said:
I was hoping that Samsung would keep the current Infinity Display design on the Note series of devices. As I prefer that to having a notch or a hole in the display...
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You prefer having a notch or hole in the display instead of just a smooth line of thin bezel like on the Note 9? You want something to distort the display's physical aesthetics?
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This makes me wonder about something: the notification light. Is this Infinity-O display going to kill it? Are the next 10 models going to retain the notification light?
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There's plenty of room for one,whether it's in the punch hole,or,as I've seen on a few phones,embedded in the speaker cut-out.
Whether Samsung chooses to keep it in any form is anybody's guess at this point.
roaduardo said:
You prefer having a notch or hole in the display instead of just a smooth line of thin bezel like on the Note 9? You want something to distort the display's physical aesthetics?
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I think the quote you cited meant they'd wish Samsung would keep the status quo on the display as it exists on the Note 9.
At 1st,I read it exactly as you did,I had to go back over it a few times to get the gist.............
KOLIOSIS said:
I think the quote you cited meant they'd wish Samsung would keep the status quo on the display as it exists on the Note 9.
At 1st,I read it exactly as you did,I had to go back over it a few times to get the gist.............
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You're right.
roaduardo said:
You prefer having a notch or hole in the display instead of just a smooth line of thin bezel like on the Note 9? You want something to distort the display's physical aesthetics?
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No I said that I prefer the current Inifinity Display design, which is the current display with the very small bezel. Not the notch or hole display.

Whitestone dome protector sensitivity

If anyone is having issues registering fingerprints with the dome protector... you need to press fairly hard to get it to register. You also have to register each finger twice. Once it's done it seems to be okay with reading the fingerprint.
this is common with their stuff. same thing on the s20 ultra i had.. think im going to run no temp glass for now. i dont like having to press so hard i think ima break my ****
I haven't installed my Dome screen protector yet, but I don't do the fingerprint thing either so I am not sure.
Even pressing hard and registering each finger twice, it still sucks. Optical fps on my OP7P was way faster (with dome as well).
I should have used the fps prior to installing so I knew how good it was before. I'm torn between ease of use but no extra protection and dealing with a **** fps.
Hmmm mine is just fine. I don't have to press hard at all. The way I register my prints...I alternate left and right different positions for all 4 entries.
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I just got mine installed today. This is the first inscreen fingerprint reader I've used. To be honest I'm not a fan. But seems to be the same pain to me lol. I'll take it over the power button fingerprint reader any day. But I've always been impressed with whitestone since the note 8/ s8. The fit on the 20 ultra is much nicer. They have definitely progressed with fitment. Not to mention i got 2 screen protectors and 2 camera protectors for $65 from their website. Worked out great since I upgraded along with my wife.
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WSD installed on my Ultra for about 4 days now and the fingerprint scanner is definitely impacted with the glass on.
FPS was real snappy and quick without the WSD glass.
Interesting....I have WSD to install on my Note20U but might hold off. Anyone know why it's crap? Ran it on my OP7P and OP8P with IDFPS just fine the whole time. Why is the Samsung reader different? Anyone know?
I've installed whitedome today and while i agree fingerprint scanner is not as snappy, at least in my case it still works pretty good. I've increased touch sensitivity too. Quite happy with the purchase
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I've installed Whitestone last week and finger scanner is definitely not reliable anymore. The glass clarity is great though..
No issues here at all have the Whitestone Dome and the Camera Whitestone on my AT&T Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB, With the UAG Monarch case on which Dome is compatibly with, Also barely have to press the screen fingerprint is very fast , works 120% for me.
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I find that the fingerprint scanner works better if your thumb is slightly damp
Once fingerprints are setup I haven't had any problems. Setting them up was the pain. Setting them up was not a issue before the install. Whitestone recommends setting up new fingerprints after the install but I'm starting to believe setting them up before the install is the better solution.
dafish69 said:
Once fingerprints are setup I haven't had any problems. Setting them up was the pain. Setting them up was not a issue before the install. Whitestone recommends setting up new fingerprints after the install but I'm starting to believe setting them up before the install is the better solution.
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I second this. I had my fingerprints setup, but I didn't use a WD protector. I have no trouble using my fps after installing it. I tried adding my other thumb and it was a pita. Doing that thumb twice I have not had trouble unlocking the device with that thumb.
LiquidHonesty said:
Interesting....I have WSD to install on my Note20U but might hold off. Anyone know why it's crap? Ran it on my OP7P and OP8P with IDFPS just fine the whole time. Why is the Samsung reader different? Anyone know?
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The Samsung reader is different technology. The OP fingerprint scanners are optical while the Samsung ones are ultrasonic...
So just put my WD on today, also noticed there was a pamphlet inside it telling me to turn the touch sensitivity up. By doing so it works, but yeah you have to push. I found you have to push harder even before the WD was on the phone too compared to like the OnePlus phones, they really have a better fingerprint sensor
For now, have face unlock and FP turned on....
Another issue, Lastpass does NOT want to read my FP at all after the install I kept my previous fingerprints and added them again too...so it works if I press.........just odd.
purokogi said:
If anyone is having issues registering fingerprints with the dome protector... you need to press fairly hard to get it to register. You also have to register each finger twice. Once it's done it seems to be okay with reading the fingerprint.
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I don't believe pressing firmly is the issue. I think it's the LOCA or whatever it's called. I took the perspective of and have no issues now. I may try a dry application screen protector soon.
Mine went well
And working.
I fked up the buttom you can't see unless screen is off
I'm gonna request a replacement lol
White stone customer service is trash. Still waiting for them to send my warranty replacement i order 2 weeks ago. Smh
(Weirdest) Pro Tip: Lick your finger.
I'm sure there's some solid scientific reason why it works (and I assume it has something to do with a wet finger providing more optically-friendly moisture for the FPS light to bounce around in), but seriously...licking your finger works.
I fought for 15 minutes and a reboot trying to reregister my thumbprint, and it kept telling me to "Press a little harder," or "Make sure your finger is covering the entire area," or just not doing anything at all. I wondered if my screen was dirty, so I wiped it down with my comforter (because I was in bed at the time) - nothing. Wiped my finger down thinking it was the issue - nothing. Wondered if my finger wasn't quite clean enough still, so I licked it (yeah, gross, I know, but don't judge me lol) and wiped it off. I noticed my finger was a little tackier when put it to the screen (which makes sense as saliva isn't necessarily "slick" like water), and BOOM! the reader started picking my finger up consistently every time I put it down over the scanner.
Isn't technology grand?

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