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Droid 4 Inductive charging Case

Didn't see any info about it here, so I figured I would chime in with some initial impressions.
The inductive back is a smooth texture, not crosshatched like the D4 is standard. It is a small distinction that I am sure will fade over time, but for now, it feels too slippery.
The inductive back does increase the thickness of the droid 4, it isn't a lot, but it is probably enough to make some cases not work. I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
I am at the office, so I cannot actually see how it plays with my energizer qi pad, hopefully it doesn't beep all the time like the verizon one reportedly does.
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gossipninja said:
Didn't see any info about it here, so I figured I would chime in with some initial impressions.
The inductive back is a smooth texture, not crosshatched like the D4 is standard. It is a small distinction that I am sure will fade over time, but for now, it feels too slippery.
The inductive back does increase the thickness of the droid 4, it isn't a lot, but it is probably enough to make some cases not work. I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
I am at the office, so I cannot actually see how it plays with my energizer qi pad, hopefully it doesn't beep all the time like the verizon one reportedly does.
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Let us know how it works!
And bleh, Verizon charging pad beeps constantly? That... seems silly, to put it politely...

Well I havent used the verizon pad, but that is what I heard, beeps all the time, beep on connect, beep on full, beep on release.
I have had my droid on the energizer pad and it works and there were no beeps.
I like that orientation doesn't seem crucial. I had my phone at different angles and as long as you get the blue light, you are good to go.
I did see a demo where Panasonic made qi charger with a moving coil
youtube.com/watch?v=an7lWob6ZrE
That would rock, as then you don't have to worry about placement (not that that is a huge issue)

Quick update about the charger
I am having some issues, namely the phone will indicate it is charging, the charge pad will indicate it is charging, and yet after hours my battery meter has barely moved. Interestingly enough the phone lasts seems to last quite awhile on 20% battery. I think something is goofy with the battery reporting.
I will likely fully charge the phone over usb and then discharge as normal and see if that "resets" it.
I also worry that on and after you remove the phone from the charge pad the back is INCREDIBLY hot. Hot to the point where I am worrying it is hurting the battery.
Does anyone have the safe temp range for Droid 4 batteries? So I can monitor it.
If things don't sort out this weekend, I will be contacting Motorola about my issues.

I wonder if they will tell you to use the 'official' pad...
Also, you could try downloading Battery Monitor Widget to see what is going on wrt charging and discharging, including (dis)charge rates.

According to Wikipedia, operating temp for Li-ion batteries is up to 158F...however, heat above room temp causes them to lose capacity. The more "full" they are, the more capacity they lose in hot weather. Temps north of 100F in conjunction with a full charge would cause them to lose a third of their capacity in a year. Continuing to charge them past the point where they're full causes them to heat up, and eventually enter thermal runaway, a chain reaction that guarantees they keep heating until they ignite. Modern devices of course are designed to sense that point and stop before it's too late; that's why a multi-cell battery may never reach 100% charge: If one cell is at 100%, the charger stops, leaving the rest at a mere ninety-something.
GEF

well at one point today, i think the phone did overheat and would not turn on for about 20 minutes, the back was quite hot. Since then, I had it fully charge on the inductive pad (energizer qi) and it was not hot and fully charged.
I will be angry if I am told I have to use the VZW pad, what is the point of a standard if they don't follow it?
As far as thermal runaway, the Droid 4 does auto turn off charging when it is full whether on the pad or usb.

gossipninja said:
well at one point today, i think the phone did overheat and would not turn on for about 20 minutes, the back was quite hot. Since then, I had it fully charge on the inductive pad (energizer qi) and it was not hot and fully charged.
I will be angry if I am told I have to use the VZW pad, what is the point of a standard if they don't follow it?
As far as thermal runaway, the Droid 4 does auto turn off charging when it is full whether on the pad or usb.
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Wow... You are making me reconsider the induction pad. It sounds great, but if it generates excess heat, that might be a bad tradeoff given the battery isn't replaceable.

Just received mine in the mail this morning! I haven't played around with it too much, just confirmed it works (charged from 90% --> 100%).
I don't know whether I have an updated version or what, but the beep isn't too bad. I would say my dishwasher's beep is louder. I can see it being annoying if it was in a bedroom or something, but for my office (at home) it isn't too bad.

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I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
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Ever get the Otterbox case to see if it fits with the inductive battery cover?

No I have not found a verizon store that has one I can try on and test with a charging pad.
I know the inductive case makes it a hair thicker so I worry about both fit, and charging.

Droid 4 + Charging Back + OtterBox Does NOT fit
Sorry to jump on someone else's thread, but I have received an Otter Box case for Motorola Droid 4 and I also have the inductive charging back, and with the charging back on the phone, the rear part of the case will NOT FIT.
I have tried the plastic rear case itself without the silicone rubber insert and even that won't fit.
I have left a post with Otterbox support to see if they MIGHT be working on a new case, But, I don't hold out much hope for that.
I have not received my charging pads yet, so I can not say if the Droid 4 can be charged through the case or not.. When I get the pads I'll give it a try and report back.

Exactly how does this work? Does it plug into the usb port, or just replace the original back?
The reason I am asking is my daughter just recently broke the usb port on her Droid 4. I tried to get it fixed at a local computer/cellphone repair center, but they coudln't get the part to fix the port. Today I threw in the towel, and used my insurance.
I was told it just replaced the back, as far as the Verizon rep could tell, it didn't plug into the usb port, but I didn't want to pony up the money for the back, and a mat just to find out I had to replace the phone anyhow.

Contacts are internal
The charging back has 4 contacts on it that connect to the internal connections of the phone.

24fan4life said:
Exactly how does this work? Does it plug into the usb port, or just replace the original back?
The reason I am asking is my daughter just recently broke the usb port on her Droid 4. I tried to get it fixed at a local computer/cellphone repair center, but they coudln't get the part to fix the port. Today I threw in the towel, and used my insurance.
I was told it just replaced the back, as far as the Verizon rep could tell, it didn't plug into the usb port, but I didn't want to pony up the money for the back, and a mat just to find out I had to replace the phone anyhow.
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It doesn't use the USB port. That's actually why I got one. I wanted to avoid wear and tear on the USB port.
That being said, I'd see if Verizon would send you a new one? They generally will unless there is evidence of gross abuse...

podspi said:
It doesn't use the USB port. That's actually why I got one. I wanted to avoid wear and tear on the USB port.
That being said, I'd see if Verizon would send you a new one? They generally will unless there is evidence of gross abuse...
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Thank you both for your replies, but I already used my insurance. I already took it into Verizon to see if they could do anything for us at the store. When the representative that helped us saw that the case around the screen was cracked, he told us if we attempted to use the warranty that Motorola would have said the reason the port no longer worked was from being dropped, even though being dropped had nothing to do with the port coming loose.
She now has a protective case for it, and hopefully keeps it on there, so the warranty can be used if it has port issues like the first one.
I am still thinking about getting her an inductive charge back, to keep wear and tear off the port. She tends to have it plugged in by her bed, and randomly answers texts throughout the night.

24fan4life said:
I am still thinking about getting her an inductive charge back, to keep wear and tear off the port. She tends to have it plugged in by her bed, and randomly answers texts throughout the night.
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That's the problem, if you get the inductive charging cover, no current cases will fit. Since there is no possibility of using an extended battery with the Droid 4, the case manufacturers ASSUME that nobody needs a larger case. The inductive cover is not common and therefore is too much of a niche market for anyone to make a case for it. I tried hacking up a regular case but it didn't work out.

hey ive been searching around the net and saw this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986016
if you willing to try it yourself!

inductive cover contacts
Can someone snap some pics of the contacts inside the inductive cover? Made my own out of palm touchstone parts now just need to wire it
Found a picture back on post #14

Did you get it working?

DIY Wireless charger for Droid4

Hi!
First, I'm sorry for English, I'm not professional.
A few days ago I made a working wireless charger for Motorola Droid 4.
What are the benefits?
People says, the original inductive charging cover is not compatible with most of cases.
Who live away from USA, can't use a wireless charger, becouse it is only available (officially) in the US. It is very hard to find on eBay or any other site. Almost impossible.
Very cheap. The original charging cover at US, Verzion is $29.99. (+ shipping, and need a person who ship it to me) It is only a cover, and we still need a charger as well.
So, I found a charging pad with and without receivers. There was a small problem. The receivers are only for Samsung Galaxy S3, S4 and Note. Their connectors aren't compatible with Droid 4, but the charging voltage is OK.
We need to take it to compatible with Droid 4. I looking for a long time, which one can I choose. Fortunately I made the right decision.
I bought that: Qi Inductive Wireless Charging Upgrade Kit for Samsung Galaxy S3
Link here
That is only for $30.10 with EU plug. The package include charging pad, usb cable, 1500mAh charger and S3 compatible receiver, and worldwide free shipping.
The size of receiver unit is compatible with free space of phone. We need some cutting but it isn't horrible.
First, I recommend you try, how fits the module in your phone.
Then mark with a felt.
The electrical connector pins are big, (and incompatible) we need to remove it carefully. I used a rework station with hot air (360°C) but you can use a medium sized soldering iron. I think, about 50-60W of power is enough. It took for about 30 secs per pin.
It is important, you need to place the receiver in such a manner, if you remove the back cover, the S3 and some other text need to be visible! Otherwise it will not work!
You see backside of the phone, and the camera is on top. Removed cover. In the right side, you can see four copper pins. The top row is irrelevant. We need tha bottom row. In the bottom row, on the left tere is the +5 V pin. On the right, there is a Ground pin.
We need to make contact between +5V pin of the phone and the +5V charging pin of the receiver unit.
Place the receiver unit to the phone, and see what size of copper wire you need. The lower pin of receiver unit is the +5V. We need to connect it.
I used a wire,1 mm in diameter. It is lacquered, I cycled down it from an electrical part (coil).
I think, that half millimeter in diameter is enough, but a found that, and it is recommended due to the relative high current (about 1A).
When you use thinner wire, you can easier take the cover to the phone.
So you need to solder wire to receiver's +5V pin. Please use the minimum quantity of soldering wire, becouse if you make a big knot there, you will have not enough place to take cover back.
When it is done, you can see how can you bend (or cut) the wire for best connectivity with phone's 5V pin.
Now you need to solder a wire to ground, like the previovus one, but not sure, that the two wore have enough space, and we can make easily short corcuit.
For this reason, we will use the iron cover of the SD card slot. This is a very good ground point.
So, one cable will go down, other is go up. They can fit and the soldering is more easy.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL! I recommend, before you make any electrical or hot operating you need to put an aluminium foil or an iron plate to top of the battery. I think to taking out battery and then in, is not easily possible, becouse after soldering there are the receiver. The battery can damage and explosive! The plastic parts of pohone can tolerate the heat for sort time! If you can not solder succesfuly, you need to wait while the parts cooling down! I recommend, use flux and/or high quality of soldering tin. Take out the SD Card! Please don't make short circuit!
It is not too difficult, but you need to be careful and attentive.
When the soldering done, you can try the charger.
Before you can take cover to phone, you need to cut the lower center of receiver. (you can see on the cover, exactly where. There are a claw and on the phone there ara a hole) Important! We need all of holes on phone, so the wires must not hang in to holes.
I cut the piece of receiver unit from lower left side, at the speaker.
Thats all. We are done. I think it longer to read than make :cyclops:
I made some pictures, I will mark these and upload in short time.
I'm going to measure the charging time with:
1,5A USB charger (direct cable)
1,5A USB charger with wireless charging pad
1,5A USB charger with wireless charging pad (phone in a 1 mm thickness of Trident case)
0,5A standard laptop USB (direct cable)
0,5A standard laptop USB with wireless charging pad
0,5A standard laptop USB with wireless charging pad (phone in a 1 mm thickness of Trident case)
I use that from 3 days ago. It works correctly. By the factory, the charging current is 1000mA with the 1,5A charger. About 66% of efficiency.
The USB charger's stand by consumption is 0,4W.
When the charging pad is connected and it is in stand by mode, the consumption is 0,98W
I'm going to bring images, and refresh the post, but here (Hungary, GMT +1) the time is am 2:31.
Good luck guys!
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That great way to charge the phone. i know that my usb plugin is getting a little wore out.......glad to know that there another way to charge up the phone in case of emergency. Congrats.

Hi,
thanks, it works for me
My IQ receiver was a bit higher, or the battery, so I had troubles to fit it in. My solution was to cut every superfluous piece and pull the uper layer of slide away. Additionally, I put it a bit nearer to the camera, The last thing was to horizontally cut the gold contacts and solder the wire directly on them.
During charging, the usb charger+pad+droid 4 use 7W, without the droid 4 the pad+charger draw 0,4W, both measured at the primary side ot the charger.
Best regards,
mifritscher

Thanks for the info, looks promising I love your using Micro SD casing as GND
BTW the pad + receiver can be found at eBay for as low as US $12 Gonna try out for myself soon.
Did you get to measure the charge times?

LuH said:
Thanks for the info, looks promising I love your using Micro SD casing as GND
BTW the pad + receiver can be found at eBay for as low as US $12 Gonna try out for myself soon.
Did you get to measure the charge times?
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Charging times are about equivalent

Different approach, same result
Hi, thanx 4 the great idea.
I took a different approach to install the charging pad. I felt not comfortable to solder directly to the phone, so I used copper-tape, capton-tape and some short wires I took from old headphones to mod the pad directly into the back cover of my phone. it got a little bit bumpier (half a mm), but it charges perfectly.
I applied some solder to the ends which connect to the pins, so the copper wont oxidize and the connection has more pressure.
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zuloo.de said:
Hi, thanx 4 the great idea.
I took a different approach to install the charging pad. I felt not comfortable to solder directly to the phone, so I used copper-tape, capton-tape and some short wires I took from old headphones to mod the pad directly into the back cover of my phone. it got a little bit bumpier (half a mm), but it charges perfectly.
I applied some solder to the ends which connect to the pins, so the copper wont oxidize and the connection has more pressure.
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That's a nice solution, and pretty much how the "real thing" was probably set up. I noticed that the back has an internal indentation where the pins are to accommodate the connector, and I had experimented with how I might fit a charging pad in there (actually, it was the connectors that I saw as the biggest challenge), but didn't manage to get anything that I thought was robust enough (I was using cut down parts of a SIM card for the pins to make contact with - you look to have done a better job with the copper tape.
I'm really surprised that we can't buy a new back with all of this gubbins already installed - perhaps you should manufacture a few?

mugen 3800mAh inductive charging cover required!!!
i'm tempted to try this myself. the droid4 keeps getting better.
i just experimented with cardboard, seems to have plenty of room between the cover and the battery. i definitely need inductive charging.

Update 2016
@zuloo.de
Hi! I copied your method for wireless charging but I was too lazy for soldering. That is why I used only copper tape. I ordered under 5$ charging pad and receiver for Galaxy S3 (cheap from China) and it is working good. My receiver says that it can output only 0.8A so I guess it is little bit slow. Can you tell your feelings about the heat? I think that my Droid 4 is pretty hot but I never used wireless charging on other phones so I don't know if it is normal. But thanks anyway posting your method :good:
Here is pictures. I tried to take picture about the bump. It is not bad but you can feel it.

USB type c wireless charging pad finally available

Not sure if it will be any good but I have ordered on to see
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Type-C-...986680?hash=item4d44193db8:g:g2UAAOSwt7pXNIHp
There only seems to be one type ATM
and it supposedly charges at DC 5V/1000mA (depending obviously on the transmitting charger)
It's available from Amazon as well but they all link back to China
Early days, here's hoping I don't blow up my 5X
Yes it blocks the USB port but I always SMB stuff from my nas box so that's not a problem.

You're lucky if you ever get even 500mA out of it. Every Chinese Qi pad vendor overstates the power on their product. Still, nice to have the option. Let us know how it goes
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Iiinteresting, ordered one of those through Amazon. Even if it's only 500mA it'll be nice to have, I just hope it doesn't mess with NFC stuff. Looks like it shouldn't given that the antenna for that is near the camera according to the manual.

colorado_al said:
You're lucky if you ever get even 500mA out of it. Every Chinese Qi pad vendor overstates the power on their product. Still, nice to have the option. Let us know how it goes
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The receiver coil looks bigger than the ones I've seen before so maybe 1 amp is a possibility, i'll let report when it eventually gets here.

Quick review
Got the pad now and here is my initial review
Clearly the photo on the advert is a bit of a lie as the coil is about half the size as you can see in the photo below.
The pad is situated to far too the top on the Nexus 5X and sticks out where the fingerprint reader is. This can be easily fixed by cutting a bit off the top, as the coil does not come right to the edge this can be done without ruining the receiver.
THe bit that plugs into the USB socket sticks out which is a bit annoying but not the end of the world.
On my Zens dual Qi charger it took just less than 4 hours to charge from 36% to full so it's not super fast but not that bad over night. The phone indicated slow charging and was AC charging by the battery usage page.
It seems to have no problem staying connected as long as you are aware where the coil is on the pad (towards the top) and has no problem charging through my case
It does not appear to interfere with the radio antenna at all so thats ok.
Also it's super slim so should not interfere with most cases
So in conclusion its fine for me as I rarely need to charge the phone except for overnight, and I have not been using the faster charger anyway.
In case anyone is wondering the case is a Nillkin Matte Super Shield Hard Shell Case which is super nice though the black was a mistake

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Got the pad now and here is my initial review
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Nice, thanks for the update. I'm still waiting on mine, it'll be nice to have wireless charging again.
edit: I did get mine today... it's a bit flaky at best, currently i'm blaming the qi charger, i've got a different one on the way.

Good to know it fits under a Nillkin case, as that's what I have for my Nexus 6P. I ordered a receiver on the 25th, hope I get it soon.

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edit: I did get mine today... it's a bit flaky at best, currently i'm blaming the qi charger, i've got a different one on the way.
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The charging on mine seems rock solid but the zens dual does have a pretty big target area to put the coil in.
See the screenshot below the charge looks pretty rock solid

bexwhitt said:
The charging on mine seems rock solid but the zens dual does have a pretty big target area to put the coil in.
See the screenshot below the charge looks pretty rock solid
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While fiddling with it the qi pad I have it only really works when the thing is outside my case in one exact spot. So... given that it worked fine for someone else I went hunting on Amazon and found a better looking unit.
We'll see Saturday when it gets here if I chose the right one.

Woot, got a full charge overnight with the new qi pad so that old pad is basically crap.

How thick is the pad? I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove as many unnecessary part from it and try to fit it under the back cover of the phone. And also solder it directly to the charging board so that the USB would be still usable

AABatteries said:
How thick is the pad? I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove as many unnecessary part from it and try to fit it under the back cover of the phone. And also solder it directly to the charging board so that the USB would be still usable
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it's not very thick at all and any generic Qi receiver would probably do as a few people already have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WimH8g-H2lE
There is padding over the battery on the back case you can remove if it's too thick

Has anyone else been having problems with theirs?
For a couple days now it's charged to full and then the next morning it'll be less than 100%. Yesterday it was at 89%, today it was at 93%. I did verify it was at 100% yesterday before I went to bed.

Fnord12 said:
Has anyone else been having problems with theirs?
For a couple days now it's charged to full and then the next morning it'll be less than 100%. Yesterday it was at 89%, today it was at 93%. I did verify it was at 100% yesterday before I went to bed.
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I don't have one of these, but I might have a possible explanation. I used to use a 0.7 amp or 1.0 amp charger for charging the 5X overnight. Seemed to work at first, but then it started showing less than 100% in the morning. What seemed to happen from the battery graph is it would charge to full, then start draining (slowly) and not top up again. So I think the low power just didn't trigger it to start charging again once the battery drained a little.
I put it on a 2 amp charger and it now is 100% in the morning. If your phone acts like mine, it might be due to the lower power from wireless charging.

Voicebox said:
I don't have one of these, but I might have a possible explanation. I used to use a 0.7 amp or 1.0 amp charger for charging the 5X overnight. Seemed to work at first, but then it started showing less than 100% in the morning. What seemed to happen from the battery graph is it would charge to full, then start draining (slowly) and not top up again. So I think the low power just didn't trigger it to start charging again once the battery drained a little.
I put it on a 2 amp charger and it now is 100% in the morning. If your phone acts like mine, it might be due to the lower power from wireless charging.
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Yeah.. I was kinda thinking that a little, good to see it confirmed. Not sure how much the pad was getting but the sending unit was only drawing ~1A so that's the issue there...
Oh well, it was a nice experiment, would have been better had it actually worked though. Back to the included charger it is then.

Just a note from years of experience with these Qi chargers:
There's some inherent loss in efficiency. Essentially, your wall charger is working to spin current around in a coil, which then by magnetic induction causes current to spin around another coil (in your phone), that then feeds into the battery. It's indirect, there's no contact, and some phone materials can even impede it (just one reason these stupid metal wannabe-iphones luddites keep demanding are a terrible idea ).
Bottom line is - you need a charger that's over an amp, closer to 2a if possible, to spin some of these Qi chargers up enough that it makes a large enough field to get to the Qi coil in your phone and charge it efficiently. Ones that come with tablets seem to work fine - I have my Nexus 7 charger on my office Qi (which is angled and serves dual duty of holding my phone for easy reading and viewing).
I'm actually more interested personally in an internal Qi option - solder it in, invisible.
True story - I did that with my S3 before I got an S5, and it worked great. Didn't have to bother when I got an S5, since they sold an optional Qi battery door for the S5. ...don't get me started on my hatred of the design philosophy that excludes removable battery doors.
Anyway - I just picked up a 5x, reluctantly ditching many of the features I had on my S5, to try Google Fi service out.
Wireless charging is something that I'm very interested in - I have wireless chargers literally installed (meaning: hidden, routed wires) in my car, office, and house, specifically to avoid that dorm-room spaghetti-everywhere aesthetic. "Wireless... it's not just for convenience anymore."
Hopefully there's a thread with step by step instructions on a good Qi pad and identified soldering points to install internally?

geolemon said:
Just a note from years of experience with these Qi chargers:
There's some inherent loss in efficiency. Essentially, your wall charger is working to spin current around in a coil, which then by magnetic induction causes current to spin around another coil (in your phone), that then feeds into the battery. It's indirect, there's no contact, and some phone materials can even impede it (just one reason these stupid metal wannabe-iphones luddites keep demanding are a terrible idea ).
Bottom line is - you need a charger that's over an amp, closer to 2a if possible, to spin some of these Qi chargers up enough that it makes a large enough field to get to the Qi coil in your phone and charge it efficiently. Ones that come with tablets seem to work fine - I have my Nexus 7 charger on my office Qi (which is angled and serves dual duty of holding my phone for easy reading and viewing).
I'm actually more interested personally in an internal Qi option - solder it in, invisible.
True story - I did that with my S3 before I got an S5, and it worked great. Didn't have to bother when I got an S5, since they sold an optional Qi battery door for the S5. ...don't get me started on my hatred of the design philosophy that excludes removable battery doors.
Anyway - I just picked up a 5x, reluctantly ditching many of the features I had on my S5, to try Google Fi service out.
Wireless charging is something that I'm very interested in - I have wireless chargers literally installed (meaning: hidden, routed wires) in my car, office, and house, specifically to avoid that dorm-room spaghetti-everywhere aesthetic. "Wireless... it's not just for convenience anymore."
Hopefully there's a thread with step by step instructions on a good Qi pad and identified soldering points to install internally?
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Such a thread exists. Someone also offers a service doing the soldering for you. I might be able to find it...
Here is the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3231461
EDIT: why did you mod your S3 when you could have dropped this in?
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That may exist today, but certainly didn't exist when the S3 was the current flagship phone.
Back in those years, the popular (and nearly 'only', here on XDA) modification was to buy the Palm Pre battery door and charger (non-Qi) and use those parts.
Since Palm had recently gone bust, $20 would get you all the parts you need - including Palm's proprietary charger base, a receiver sticker, even a charger.
And honestly, I have to say the Qi charger gets much hotter than the Palm system, so there might be an argument there for it being technically 'better than' the Qi systems. Qi is simply the standard today.

So now with the news that there are some accessories(chargers and cables) that are not compliant with the USB type C specifications, I wonder if these wireless pads are compliant with the specification?

dual case screen hack to allow normal usb c ?

Does anyone have a broken dual screen case so we can have a peak inside and work out how solder a female usb c port in the case?
im thinking best case, its easy as tacking on the 4 main wires (grd, positive, data0, data1) with female port glued where earphone jack is, or close by,
and worse case have a female usb c plug hand out of the case.

I would pay money to have this mod done. I absolutely can't stand proprietary connections and dongles. WTF was LG thinking ?? I mean seriously. WHY? BTW if you need a dongle (got a case but did not come with a dongle) they are $9 on lg.com (versus the insane $20 to $30 people are scalping them for on ebay and amazon) and S4299869 might get you free shipping (seemed to work for me but then did not work so its iffy)

Why not cut and take out the proprietary intermediate on the V60 case (which NEEDLESSLY stresses the USBc port on the V60 itself making the dual screen case a terrible idea). Cut it out then there's a port open enough to feed in and plug in the regular usbc charger tip to V60 usbc. bamm - done.
Only hurdle is you don't want to pull a cable by it's wire but by the connection mold/base. Tie a string to base and pull that?
because any mod that axes the (very useful and better) headphone jack isn't one I'd dig.

jojoatt said:
Why not cut and take out the proprietary intermediate on the V60 case (which NEEDLESSLY stresses the USBc port on the V60 itself making the dual screen case a terrible idea). Cut it out then there's a port open enough to feed in and plug in the regular usbc charger tip to V60 usbc. bamm - done.
Only hurdle is you don't want to pull a cable by it's wire but by the connection mold/base. Tie a string to base and pull that?
because any mod that axes the (very useful and better) headphone jack isn't one I'd dig.
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Except if you cut out the port the dual screen case will no longer work, it needs to connect to the phone somehow. The proprietary port is annoying I agree, but the alternative is to have the case chin be over double as thick, which would make using the dual screen case somewhat of a challenge. I don't personally own the dual screen case, I'm planning on getting one, but here's what I would do for charging:
1. For charging overnight take the phone out of the case - if you're just checking your phone in the middle of the night (not saying that's advisable) you probably won't miss the dual screen case all that much. The reason I recommend this is because if you're like me and tend to be unpredictable in your movements during the night, a magnetic connector could become disconnected, or even if you get up for some reason in the night and catch the cable.
2. For charging during the day, or any other time where you may be moving, or using it while charging, I'd do the same thing. I use my phone a lot but I always will have a period during the day to fully charge the phone. I'm guessing the dual screen case will lower the battery life by about 25%, landing us at 5 hours 15 minutes from 7 hours. Examine your lifestyle and search for a 2 hour period during the second half of the day where you're not on your phone. Charge during this time. If you can, use the magnetic connector to charge during this time since it will remove some of the stress of plugging and unplugging the dual screen case, therefore expanding the lifespan of your port. Even if it's just an hour, this is enough to get to around 70% battery, which depending on when you go to sleep should be enough to get you through the rest of the day. I plug my phone in when I'm not using it all the time, this is enough to not have battery anxiety.
I'd also like to say I agree with you regarding the headphone jack. Yes the dual screen case would still be useful on a phone without a headphone jack, but given this phone has it, it would be ridiculous to axe it. As everyone on this forum probably knows, the V60's large and comprehensive collection of features make it irreplaceable, and even removing one of those features would begin to show where newer phones could do better in my opinion.

General Be careful with your charger cable

The charging speed is absolutely mental, the 0 -100% in 30 minutes is legit.
But one thing to note, the cable itself shouldn't be kinked, I've had a few of these before and you can break them fairly easy if you wrap up your cables all the time, try to leave it as loose and straight as possible.
Besides that, I'm so impressed by the speed of this charger, it goes like hell.

Avoid pulling* on them except by grasping the plug housing. Where the cable meets it are the weakest link. Never bend the cable there.
That's the spot where most fail.
*including phone saved by cable drops

blackhawk said:
Avoid pulling* on them except by grasping the plug housing. Where the cable meets it are the weakest link. Never bend the cable there.
That's the spot where most fail.
*including phone saved by cable drops
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My wife has an Asus portable screen and the cables the same grade, she folded it up for transporting to work, after that it didn't work. The 10 pro one is very similar, just shouldn't be bent at all.

And of course don't use your phone while charging...

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And of course don't use your phone while charging...
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Or swimming whilst charging
In all fairness though, this phone remains so cool, I'm super impressed by it.

dladz said:
My wife has an Asus portable screen and the cables the same grade, she folded it up for transporting to work, after that it didn't work. The 10 pro one is very similar, just shouldn't be bent at all.
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I have 2 stock Samsung cables that came with the bricks. One has been used well over 2000 times but it is never put away... it just sits there.
It's a stiff cable, never expected this kind of longevity from it. It's taken a few "drops" too.
A well designed/built cable/plug assembly shouldn't fail from simply coiling* it. I've fabricated many hundreds of custom cable assemblies, many still in use after over a decade.
*coiling verses sharp bends to jam it into a small space. I'm not concerned with saving shipping space but rather delivering the assembly in best condition. I also avoid using kind of tight binding of the coil that could deform the cable's internal structure. Teflon insulation is extremely susceptible to this.

Should be faster!
I charge my 9 pro (65w wall charger) from 0-100% in 27 minutes. With the phone OFF.
I recomend to everybody to buy wireless charger 50w. The model for 9 Pro. Is Very Fast and it saves usb_C port a lot.
Atention! You still need wall charger and OnePlus cable to work. When you buy the wireless charger does not come with wall charger and cable in the box.

null0seven said:
Should be faster!
I charge my 9 pro (65w wall charger) from 0-100% in 27 minutes. With the phone OFF.
I recomend to everybody to buy wireless charger 50w. The model for 9 Pro. Is Very Fast and it saves usb_C port a lot.
Atention! You still need wall charger and OnePlus cable to work. When you buy the wireless charger does not come with wall charger and cable in the box.
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27 minute's?

null0seven said:
Should be faster!
I charge my 9 pro (65w wall charger) from 0-100% in 27 minutes. With the phone OFF.
I recomend to everybody to buy wireless charger 50w. The model for 9 Pro. Is Very Fast and it saves usb_C port a lot.
Atention! You still need wall charger and OnePlus cable to work. When you buy the wireless charger does not come with wall charger and cable in the box.
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C ports can be quit durable* if kept clean (rarely need cleaning). They typically last many years and thousands of charge cycles. You'll likely replace 2 or more batteries before a C port.
Typically the C port is easier to replace than the battery. A heavily used device's battery will last 1 to 2 years at best.
Direct charging is faster and generates less heat. High temperature and cell voltage are an Li's prime premature degraders.
*at least on a Samsung N10+

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C ports can be quit durable* if kept clean (rarely need cleaning). They typically last many years and thousands of charge cycles. You'll likely replace 2 or more batteries before a C port.
Typically the C port is easier to replace than the battery. A heavily used device's battery will last 1 to 2 years at best.
Direct charging is faster and generates less heat. High temperature and cell voltage are an Li's prime premature degraders.
*at least on a Samsung N10+
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Yea I've had a problem with lint, just cleaned it, way more robust than micro..
They were horrific .
In regards to charge speed. The 80w 10 pro charger is the fastest I've ever used, it's insane

dladz said:
Yea I've had a problem with lint, just cleaned it, way more robust than micro..
They were horrific .
In regards to charge speed. The 80w 10 pro charger is the fastest I've ever used, it's insane
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The micro's were nightmares. C ports will take some abuse without becoming loose.
The lint problem is likely a result of where it's kept. My N10+ nests in my lint free bdu pant pocket however I was keeping my Buds+ in my front pants pocket (cotten vs polyester/cotton).
Recently had to clean the lint out of the Buds+ case. It wasn't properly seating.
No big deal, carefully used a toothbrush and blew it out with a blower bulb. Now that case nests in my cargo pocket too
In spite of no cover cap the N10+'s C port has stayed remarkably clean in over 2 years of heavy usage in a dusty environment. Where you pocket the device counts the most in keeping the C port clean it appears. A dust repelling case with a slightly over hanging hood seems to help as well.

blackhawk said:
The micro's were nightmares. C ports will take some abuse without becoming loose.
The lint problem is likely a result of where it's kept. My N10+ nests in my lint free bdu pant pocket however I was keeping my Buds+ in my front pants pocket (cotten vs polyester/cotton).
Recently had to clean the lint out of the Buds+ case. It wasn't properly seating.
No big deal, carefully used a toothbrush and blew it out with a blower bulb. Now that case nests in my cargo pocket too
In spite of no cover cap the N10+'s C port has stayed remarkably clean in over 2 years of heavy usage in a dusty environment. Where you pocket the device counts the most in keeping the C port clean it appears. A dust repelling case with a slightly over hanging hood seems to help as well.
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Exactly mate.
I've never broken one before, the cable itself though, very stiff, I've broken then before.

dladz said:
Exactly mate.
I've never broken one before, the cable itself though, very stiff, I've broken then before.
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I have 2 Samsung C cables, one is 2.5 yo, the other over a year, both are used constantly. Both are very stiff, I never coil them.
The have aged well, which pleasantly surprises me.
Micro cables, always was replacing them... like dumb bunnies

blackhawk said:
I have 2 Samsung C cables, one is 2.5 yo, the other over a year, both are used constantly. Both are very stiff, I never coil them.
The have aged well, which pleasantly surprises me.
Micro cables, always was replacing them... like dumb bunnies
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I've seen someone buy a phone, I was working in a phone repair shop and she bought the really expensive Sony phone. She was quite rough with it, shoved the micro usb cable into it the wrong way several times, broke off most the pins, literally list 1200 quid on the spot.
I think that's partly why usb c became a thing, so much more reliable, it's design I'm referring to. I know power delivery was it's driving force and data rate.

dladz said:
I've seen someone buy a phone, I was working in a phone repair shop and she bought the really expensive Sony phone. She was quite rough with it, shoved the micro usb cable into it the wrong way several times, broke off most the pins, literally list 1200 quid on the spot.
I think that's partly why usb c became a thing, so much more reliable, it's design I'm referring to. I know power delivery was it's driving force and data rate.
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Some people...
Yeah never liked the polarized micro system. A good sideways pull or drop on the attacted charging cable could loosen them.
It was like playing Russian roulette. In 5 years went through over half a dozen cables.
USB C is much more reliable, rugged... and dumb bunny proof.

dladz said:
27 minute's?
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Yes, with the phone OFF.
blackhawk said:
C ports can be quit durable* if kept clean (rarely need cleaning). They typically last many years and thousands of charge cycles. You'll likely replace 2 or more batteries before a C port.
Typically the C port is easier to replace than the battery. A heavily used device's battery will last 1 to 2 years at best.
Direct charging is faster and generates less heat. High temperature and cell voltage are an Li's prime premature degraders.
*at least on a Samsung N10+
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Not all of them.
I bought for my sister Nokia 7 Plus few years back. Usb_C get broken. She use it for charging and copy to/from PC..
To replace the port they need to remove the screen (with heat & bla bla). It could Not be changed thruu the back cover. It cost almost 30 euro, which is a lot for a usb port.
You can clean the port with a sharp wooden toothpick with some contact spray or isopropyl alcohol.
dladz said:
I've seen someone buy a phone, I was working in a phone repair shop and she bought the really expensive Sony phone. She was quite rough with it, shoved the micro usb cable into it the wrong way several times, broke off most the pins, literally list 1200 quid on the spot.
I think that's partly why usb c became a thing, so much more reliable, it's design I'm referring to. I know power delivery was it's driving force and data rate.
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Is funny how stupid people buy expensive things...

null0seven said:
Yes, with the phone OFF.
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If that's true buddy, that's a hell of a trick I just didn't bother with for some reason. If that's the case then I'd imagine the 10 pro will top up faster than a car a petrol station.
I'd great find but I feel like a tit for not noticing it myself

null0seven said:
Yes, with the phone OFF.
Not all of them.
I bought for my sister Nokia 7 Plus few years back. Usb_C get broken. She use it for charging and copy to/from PC..
To replace the port they need to remove the screen (with heat & bla bla). It could Not be changed thruu the back cover. It cost almost 30 euro, which is a lot for a usb port.
You can clean the port with a sharp wooden toothpick with some contact spray or isopropyl alcohol.
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C port quality depends on the manufacturer and perhaps model
A toothpick could deform contacts, a soft stiff bristle seems more appropriate... with care.
3% hydrogen peroxide can be used as it will get under the lint and react with it, dislodging it.
Dry throughly.

It makes sense that charging is faster with the phone off.

null0seven said:
It makes sense that charging is faster with the phone off.
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Yes thank you Mr Hawkin