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safe to say 6.0 won't make it any easier to root? should I wait?

Hi there, I recently purchased an t710 which I upgraded to 5.1.1. I'm wondering if there is any reason to wait rooting this device and tripping knox. I purchased an extended warranty for accidental etc from squaretrade so I'm not too worried.
What do you think? Also this is the first touch device I ever owned and I've never owned any smart devices other than a blackberry curve 8330. :victory: I am however quite savvy with computers in general. I've strayed from these devices due to high cost and high toss rate.
Couldn't hurt to throw in some app recommendations too! I sure would like to customize a bit more than samsung is allowing me to.
In addition to my original question, what's the best root and image available for my galaxy tab s2 t710 currently? I wasn't quite sure as there are a few. Does flashing one of the images wipe everything?
Also, as I understand it, many knox features have to be paid for with a regular subscription or something and the applications are not fantastic currently. Am I wrong?
Feel free to add anything you think I should know, also app recommendations would be great. Thanks!

Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)

wirelesskebab said:
Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
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Knox status doesn't totally matter its more for secure environments like corporate or government to know that a device has been compromised.
Samsung and carriers often still warranty devices that have the Knox flag tripped.
To answer your question though, there is no way to undo a Knox flag.

Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!

wirelesskebab said:
Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
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For what reason do you need to install busybox? Unless you have a real need for it why install it and cause more issues?
I can't think of a real single time I've ever needed busy box.
Xposed, Root explorer and Titanium backup are the 3 apps I use on every device I have.

auto rotate suddenly stopped working after I rebooted the tablet, I tried doing a factory reset but that hasn't fixed it, it won't go into landscape mode. Any ideas to fix this?
I just rebooted it through TWRP instead of inside the system and that fixed it, why the heck wouldn't a factory reset? anyone ever hear of this issue before?

A slap on the back has been known to fix it.

Note 9 to root or not to root?

Hey all!
I'll do the long story short: I am stuck on a Korean Note 9 in Europe, which means no Samsung pay for me.
Now, since I can't get Samsung Pay, and I saw I can't instal Google pay either(not sure why the Play store wouldn't let me), I have been contemplating before setting up my Note, to maybe root it, and going stock european ROM.
I have rooted multiple phones in the past, but I am not sure if it's worth it in the present, as the UIs are pretty good and complete.
Now my question is, do I lose anything else by rooting? Could someone Eli~10 what that knox fuse tripping means for future limitations/possibilities? Also, besides my reason to set custom dpi for an app, why else would one root its Note 9 nowadays?
Thanks!

I'm pretty sure you lose Private Folder and maybe Samsung Health if you root. I'd consider rooting only for Viper4Android & the YouTube Background Playback xposed module. But I saw there is xposed for non-rooted phones & Note9 has Dolby Atmos so I think this will be my first android phone that I won't root (don't even need root anymore).

It is personal preference, but all apps that require Knox will cease to work, so almost all payment apps will be of no use. While the first comment said S Health would no longer work, months ago a workaround was found to get it to work. Many apps I like require root, but there are nonroot workarounds for most of them.

Snowby123 said:
It is personal preference, but all apps that require Knox will cease to work, so almost all payment apps will be of no use. While the first comment said S Health would no longer work, months ago a workaround was found to get it to work. Many apps I like require root, but there are nonroot workarounds for most of them.
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And which are specifically the apps that require Knox to work?

I don't know all of them. The only ones I know are Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, and Adhell, but development of Adhell ceased months ago. There are definitely more.

I had the same dilemma when I first bought my Note 9. For a couple of seconds. Then, I rooted it as I do with every Android phone I get since 2009.
Any app, website, or service that demands a non-rooted device goes automatically to my black list.

Root then UnRoot

So on my old phone i used to hide root using magisk and its got to the point now where i am sick of the cat and mouse games with banking apps. I Was wondering on my newer phone is it possible to root, install apps, apis and then unroot it but continue to use the apis ive installed to the partition and banking apps. Not too bothered about knox and the secure apps

LOL, it's KNOX that's stopping those banking apps working...
Once the e-fuse that protects the phone has been blown it's impossible to un-root.
Try to un-cook an egg.
Kmox is part of the security that tells the phone that the device has been compromised and hence no app that requires absolute system security will run... This generally will apply to banking apps but a few of Samsungs own apps won't run either.
Sorry...

thanks, i just thought banking apps check for root. i didnt think they used knox at all

I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling

Ps2004 said:
I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling
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So true, this is the last time i rooted, unrooted, rooted, unrooted, sold phones and havent done it since. it looks like i just will need to deal with it or somehow find a phone that has a vulnerability to allow root

I picked my old s6 and root again, hope the android auto all app hack works, phone will use my N9 hotspot
But I'd need a way to keep voicecall coming from N9 bluetooth and not plugged s6 running Android Auto

Is anyone else delaying a phone purchase or A12 upgrade until Magisk can hide again?

Now that Magiskhide is a thing of the past, I am holding off on any phone or OS upgrades that will force me to use a newer version of Magisk than v23 (stable or canary). I have a OnePlus 9, and was considering trying a Pixel6, but now I will just stick with my phone, on it's current update until we have a working Magisk again.
I almost always buy the new OnePlus that comes out in spring, but if Magisk still doesn't have a hide when the 10 is released in 2022, I'm going to pass on it.
Wondering if anyone else is in the camp.

Funny thing is, I tested the app you mentioned in your other thread and had no issues making it start on the current Canary (23011), once added to the Deny list.

mx597turbo said:
Now that Magiskhide is a thing of the past, I am holding off on any phone or OS upgrades that will force me to use a newer version of Magisk than v23 (stable or canary). I have a OnePlus 9, and was considering trying a Pixel6, but now I will just stick with my phone, on it's current update until we have a working Magisk again.
I almost always buy the new OnePlus that comes out in spring, but if Magisk still doesn't have a hide when the 10 is released in 2022, I'm going to pass on it.
Wondering if anyone else is in the camp.
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Nope, its just you
A12 on a Pixel 4XL, doing just fine...whether i use official, a forked magisk or an old alpha it still works...i just currently use the old alpha because theres less work to do for the same effect on the very edge cases i have running Samsung Wearables/Samsung Pay...once the (very recent) dust settles i think it will be less fiddly than it currently is.
Solved one niggle today, Samsung Pay, by upgrading the Active 2 to Watch 4....it has Play Store access and can use Google Pay, like on my phone...no longer need two different payment methods and apps.....nice
I dont get people getting all bent out of shape as if magisk is the be and end all of everything, yes its nice to have, but people need to remember, theres millions of people out there not even rooting their devices...averga epeople, the unwashed masses
Life goes on for them....no matter what happens on Magisk github
If Magisk ever goes away, we'll survive...the way some carry on you think they need a 1-800 number to call to avoid walking off a cliff edge

Didgeridoohan said:
Funny thing is, I tested the app you mentioned in your other thread and had no issues making it start on the current Canary (23011), once added to the Deny list.
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Thanks. I'll have to check it out. That app is the only one that doesn't work for me, and has very limited use anyway.
Right now, 23stable is working perfectly. Doesn't make much sense to change unless I can be sure I'll retain all my current functionality.

73sydney said:
Nope, its just you
A12 on a Pixel 4XL, doing just fine...whether i use official, a forked magisk or an old alpha it still works...i just currently use the old alpha because theres less work to do for the same effect on the very edge cases i have running Samsung Wearables/Samsung Pay...once the (very recent) dust settles i think it will be less fiddly than it currently is.
Solved one niggle today, Samsung Pay, by upgrading the Active 2 to Watch 4....it has Play Store access and can use Google Pay, like on my phone...no longer need two different payment methods and apps.....nice
I dont get people getting all bent out of shape as if magisk is the be and end all of everything, yes its nice to have, but people need to remember, theres millions of people out there not even rooting their devices...averga epeople, the unwashed masses
Life goes on for them....no matter what happens on Magisk github
If Magisk ever goes away, we'll survive...the way some carry on you think they need a 1-800 number to call to avoid walking off a cliff edge
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I listen to Music a lot. I'm not willing to give up custom James DSP/Viper profiles or call recording. Sorry, those are deal breakers for me.
I don't understand why a good audio app and call recording aren't available in the US without root, but guess I'm one of those very few people for whom root is a necessity.
On another note, I never understood the appeal of Samsung pay. Maybe if it worked on a wearable without a data connection (ie, go for a run, watch only, no phone, no data connection). Obviously it doesn't, so no real use that you couldn't get out of Google pay.

mx597turbo said:
Right now, 23stable is working perfectly. Doesn't make much sense to change unless I can be sure I'll retain all my current functionality.
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If your setup is working and there are no major fixes necessary there's really no need to upgrade. If it isn't broken, no need to fix it...
On a side note I tested that app on a device that still had the 23001 Magisk build installed and had no issues there either. All I did was to make sure the Magisk app was repackaged with a random name and the AZ ID app on the Hide list.

mx597turbo said:
I listen to Music a lot. I'm not willing to give up custom James DSP/Viper profiles or call recording. Sorry, those are deal breakers for me.
I don't understand why a good audio app and call recording aren't available in the US without root, but guess I'm one of those very few people for whom root is a necessity.
On another note, I never understood the appeal of Samsung pay. Maybe if it worked on a wearable without a data connection (ie, go for a run, watch only, no phone, no data connection). Obviously it doesn't, so no real use that you couldn't get out of Google pay.
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TrueCaller just introduced Call Recording

Wavelets is really good, and what @pittvandewitt actually focuses on now. As for call recording, the apps mentioned above should work.

daemonspudguy said:
Wavelets is really good, and what @pittvandewitt actually focuses on now. As for call recording, the apps mentioned above should work.
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Wavelets actually makes sound worse
Case in point:
Anyone who has Galaxy Buds downloads it and then applies the tunings for them in Wavelets (not realising theyre already tuned from the factory) and gets garbage sound. I went through this more than year ago with the dev, but yet, you can still do this...
Short version: dont install Wavelets if you like sound, we'll work out a solution for Viper....

I use Wavelets with the AKG K52 headphones, and they sound fantastic with or without wavelets

Question Can the OnePlus 10 Pro 2213 be rooted while still allow streaming apps to be installed or function (latest NE2213_11_A.15)?

Seems like a stupid question, but yes I bought a 2213 EU version, unlocked the bootloader, rooted it the right way, did everything to pass safety net, device is play protect registered, getprop ro.boot.verifiedbootstate returns green, Google Pay works fine after root, DRM Info shows Widevine L1
Netflix won't install (not compatible with device)
HBOMax won't play
Peacock won't install
Hulu won't install
Is this possibly a OnePLus bug on the new NE2213_11_A.15 build, some new rooting thing with Android 12, bad luck, or is there some solution that I need to install?
I may be haded right back to the trusty OnePlus 8 Pro....which has none of these issues and has the Macro Camera which I actually miss....
Thanks in advance for any suggestions....
Also, if anyone in the US needs dual SIM, the EU versions supports all the US bands (and more), is dual SIM, and works flawlessly with T-Mobile...5G, VoWiFi, everything.

Same thing for me, i live in Sweden and we have Cmore & Discovery here that refuse to play after bootloader unlock and root, no magisk hide solution have worked for me. Maybe bootloader unlock with no root works, but cant try because my OP10 is bricked. My old OP9 was working perfect with all the streaming, i now have Xiaomi 12 Pro and was afraid the same thing would happend with this phone, only unlocked bootloader on this phone but no root and everything works 100%, streaming apps, gpay.

It just seems there is something wrong here in the way that OnePlus certified this device. Other Android 12 devices can be rooted without all these issue, right?
Can people US or Chinese / Indian versions get rooted and have access to the Streaming services?

MetroWestMA said:
It just seems there is something wrong here in the way that OnePlus certified this device. Other Android 12 devices can be rooted without all these issue, right?
Can people US or Chinese / Indian versions get rooted and have access to the Streaming services?
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I have Hulu Disney plus and Netflix working but only play when streamed to my Chromecast. On device play doesn't work and only plays L3 even though device reads L1. Believe it's to deal with bootloader unlock and not root. But others posted that it was a OnePlus issue and was supposed to be resolved but hasn't been.

toolhas4degrees said:
I have Hulu Disney plus and Netflix working but only play when streamed to my Chromecast. On device play doesn't work and only plays L3 even though device reads L1. Believe it's to deal with bootloader unlock and not root. But others posted that it was a OnePlus issue and was supposed to be resolved but hasn't been.
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It's a issue with this particular Snapdragon chip. The Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 uses the same processor and has the exact same problem.

g96818 said:
It's a issue with this particular Snapdragon chip. The Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 uses the same processor and has the exact same problem.
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How can it be the chip. It could be the kernel associated didn't have correct commits from snapdragon. But still the drm is in the secure partition on our device that can't be altered also.

toolhas4degrees said:
How can it be the chip. It could be the kernel associated didn't have correct commits from snapdragon. But still the drm is in the secure partition on our device that can't be altered also.
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Not sure, but that's the only common link between both devices from different manufacturers. They're basically using the same work around we are. I'll be testing it out shortly also since my S8 was just delivered.

It is just fundamentally blocking anything having to do with DRM. You can't even spoof the user agent and watch any streaming service through a browser -- it ask if the browser can play secure content (you say yes) and then gives an error. I am not even that much of a TV / Movie guy, but to be 100% blocked from any streaming just for rooting a device you own????
Pretty F&*^in extreme if you asked me....
The only question is do I wait for someone to hack it (if that's even possible), or do I just go back to my trusty OP 8 Pro and sell this...?
Are there any Android 12 rootable phones that don't have this issue...or is it all Android 12 phones?

MetroWestMA said:
It is just fundamentally blocking anything having to do with DRM. You can't even spoof the user agent and watch any streaming service through a browser -- it ask if the browser can play secure content (you say yes) and then gives an error. I am not even that much of a TV / Movie guy, but to be 100% blocked from any streaming just for rooting a device you own????
Pretty F&*^in extreme if you asked me....
The only question is do I wait for someone to hack it (if that's even possible), or do I just go back to my trusty OP 8 Pro and sell this...?
Are there any Android 12 rootable phones that don't have this issue...or is it all Android 12 phones?
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i think it's a snapdragon issue rather than software issue.

MetroWestMA said:
Seems like a stupid question, but yes I bought a 2213 EU version, unlocked the bootloader, rooted it the right way, did everything to pass safety net, device is play protect registered, getprop ro.boot.verifiedbootstate returns green, Google Pay works fine after root, DRM Info shows Widevine L1
Netflix won't install (not compatible with device)
HBOMax won't play
Peacock won't install
Hulu won't install
Is this possibly a OnePLus bug on the new NE2213_11_A.15 build, some new rooting thing with Android 12, bad luck, or is there some solution that I need to install?
I may be haded right back to the trusty OnePlus 8 Pro....which has none of these issues and has the Macro Camera which I actually miss....
Thanks in advance for any suggestions....
Also, if anyone in the US needs dual SIM, the EU versions supports all the US bands (and more), is dual SIM, and works flawlessly with T-Mobile...5G, VoWiFi, everything.
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How did you get widevine L1 after bootloader unlock?

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How did you get widevine L1 after bootloader unlock?
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That's what DRM Info showed.
But for me it's all moot at this point. Yesterday, Google Pay stopped working (some new detection thing I presume), so I attempted to relock the bootloader with
./fastboot flashing lock
at which point the device started going into an infinite power cycle instant reboot no way to get into FASTBOOT, or Recovery or turn off the phone. So I just returning the phone and going back to OnePLus 8 / Android 11 where you can be fully rooted and everything just works.
What a disappointment and waste of time.
Thanks for everyone who offerred suggestions...I'll try back in 6 months or so and see if any of this gets sorted out.

It's not "issues with the chip". Google upped their ante with root detection, which breaks everything from netflix to google pay. See this thread.

I was the OP and had to return my bricked OP10Pro under the 30 day return period.
Anyway, I bought a Google 512GB Pixel 6 Pro used, rooted it, and did the basic stuff I have done since the OP8Pro -- and everything works -- GPay, Netflix, no DRM issues and no hassles.
So maybe it is the chip, but if google had "upped their game" I would think it would be with their own phones especially since the Tensor SOC (co developed with Samsung) has a trusted security module.
As far as the phones go, the Pixel Pro is heavier and the battery charges slower, but you get dual SIM and it works on all USA/Worldside 5G networks and bands. And the cameras are top notch. So kind of a tossup I guess.